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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 3:22 PM ET #1

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/18/food-stamp-usage-has-fallen-every-month-of-trump-presidency/amp/

    #MAGA
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/18/food-stamp-usage-has-fallen-every-month-of-trump-presidency/amp/

    #MAGA
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 3:43 PM ET #2

    #MAGA
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    #MAGA
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 4:19 PM ET #3

    In Oct.2017,SNAP awards will be reduced 11-25% to all clients.
    Obama had the greatest increase of Food Stamp usage of any President.

    Piece by piece Donald is unravelling the 8 year nightmare.
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    In Oct.2017,SNAP awards will be reduced 11-25% to all clients.
    Obama had the greatest increase of Food Stamp usage of any President.

    Piece by piece Donald is unravelling the 8 year nightmare.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 4:31 PM ET #4

    Dow up 4,000 points since November of 2016. 22%.
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    Dow up 4,000 points since November of 2016. 22%.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 4:32 PM ET #5

    WINNING..............
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    WINNING..............
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 4:33 PM ET #6

    Yes we are! !
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    Yes we are! !
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 5:45 PM ET #7

    i can't believe i just read a breitbart article.  that's like the reading equivalent of a liquid meth suppository.  you guys know that some intimately, i imagine.   

    anyway, 1. how can illegal immigrants cancel their food stamps when illegal immigrants aren't entitled to food stamps, 2. why would a legal immigrant get deported for getting food stamps and 3. is there any proof to support this statement.

    Trump’s illegal immigration crackdown has also indirectly affected food stamp enrollment. Many immigrants, both legal and illegal, canceled their food stamps over fears they might be denied citizenship or deported

    beyond that, i'm all for eliminating government waste, i'd start a lot of other places before food stamps, but the biggest group of food stamps recipients by far is children.  people over 60 is another fairly large group.  nearly 2 million veterans rely on them plus about 20,000 active military.  has anyone looked out how these groups are affected by changes to the program or do we just type out MAGA and move on? 
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    i can't believe i just read a breitbart article.  that's like the reading equivalent of a liquid meth suppository.  you guys know that some intimately, i imagine.   

    anyway, 1. how can illegal immigrants cancel their food stamps when illegal immigrants aren't entitled to food stamps, 2. why would a legal immigrant get deported for getting food stamps and 3. is there any proof to support this statement.

    Trump’s illegal immigration crackdown has also indirectly affected food stamp enrollment. Many immigrants, both legal and illegal, canceled their food stamps over fears they might be denied citizenship or deported

    beyond that, i'm all for eliminating government waste, i'd start a lot of other places before food stamps, but the biggest group of food stamps recipients by far is children.  people over 60 is another fairly large group.  nearly 2 million veterans rely on them plus about 20,000 active military.  has anyone looked out how these groups are affected by changes to the program or do we just type out MAGA and move on? 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 6:01 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Dow up 4,000 points since November of 2016. 22%.

    Pretty good. Trump inherited a good economy. 

    It only went up 140% during Obama. 

    https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/10/investing/obama-stock-market-trump/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Dow up 4,000 points since November of 2016. 22%.

    Pretty good. Trump inherited a good economy. 

    It only went up 140% during Obama. 

    https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/10/investing/obama-stock-market-trump/index.html
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 6:08 PM ET #9

    I 'only' stated a fact. No more. No less.
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    I 'only' stated a fact. No more. No less.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 6:13 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Pretty good. Trump inherited a good economy. 

    It only went up 140% during Obama. 

    https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/10/investing/obama-stock-market-trump/index.html

    Economy went up 140% and median income went up 0.9% 


    The Democrats must believe in trickle down economics
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Pretty good. Trump inherited a good economy. 

    It only went up 140% during Obama. 

    https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/10/investing/obama-stock-market-trump/index.html

    Economy went up 140% and median income went up 0.9% 


    The Democrats must believe in trickle down economics
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 6:32 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Economy went up 140% and median income went up 0.9% 


    The Democrats must believe in trickle down economics

    Do you know why the stats you stated occurred?

    Why does the stock market go up yet incomes are not...

    Anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Economy went up 140% and median income went up 0.9% 


    The Democrats must believe in trickle down economics

    Do you know why the stats you stated occurred?

    Why does the stock market go up yet incomes are not...

    Anyone?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 6:52 PM ET #12

    American companies outsourcing jobs is one reason. 
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    American companies outsourcing jobs is one reason. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 7:21 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    American companies outsourcing jobs is one reason. 

    That has been going on for decades, but does play a small part...keep going.


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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    American companies outsourcing jobs is one reason. 

    That has been going on for decades, but does play a small part...keep going.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 7:29 PM ET #14

    Broadly- profit for the corporation at the expense of the worker-

    Also, continued investment by the top x %, while the lower wage earners get left out of stock market appreciation-

    Both of these have been going on for quite a while as well-
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    Broadly- profit for the corporation at the expense of the worker-

    Also, continued investment by the top x %, while the lower wage earners get left out of stock market appreciation-

    Both of these have been going on for quite a while as well-
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 7:31 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    American companies outsourcing jobs is one reason. 

    DJT addressed this today...other countries "taking" advantage of us...which US companies are complicit...look how the standard of living and prosperity has increased in the likes of India, etc....rooted in our free market  principles.... 

     Democracy and capitalism can create better, secure   peaceful societies...NOT tyrannical socialist regimes...

    That's why a newer lower Corporate tax rate is imperative. for this Congress to pass soon....A fiscally strong US economy can only inspire each nation to follow our example "patriotism too".......It's called  AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM......it's much better to lead than follow..er.Boh ..

    Great Day to be an American 
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    American companies outsourcing jobs is one reason. 

    DJT addressed this today...other countries "taking" advantage of us...which US companies are complicit...look how the standard of living and prosperity has increased in the likes of India, etc....rooted in our free market  principles.... 

     Democracy and capitalism can create better, secure   peaceful societies...NOT tyrannical socialist regimes...

    That's why a newer lower Corporate tax rate is imperative. for this Congress to pass soon....A fiscally strong US economy can only inspire each nation to follow our example "patriotism too".......It's called  AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM......it's much better to lead than follow..er.Boh ..

    Great Day to be an American 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 8:19 PM ET #16

    The reason why wages are not growing but the stock market goes up is due to some of the following-

    1. Financial engineering/float shrink. Companies are using cash flow and borrowing to buy back shares and increase dividends, this reduces the number of shares outstanding and thus increases earnings per share which in theory means higher stock prices

    2. Corporations are not spending on expansion or R&D they are laboring current employees harder to increase margin and profits. That is why the high high majority of job growth is not producing wage growth...jobs being created have and are below the median income and thus are not increasing wages. People are losing higher wage jobs and are taking low wage jobs because there are not high wage jobs available.

    3. The FED has created a decade long period of extremely low interest rates and corporations are leveraging up using this cheap debt and their interest expense is low enough that they can do what I mentioned in item number one.

    4. Corporations do not see demand so they are not hiring jobs that create income growth, so even with their balance sheet FULL of cash they are not hiring the kind of jobs that are needed to sustain economic growth and increase savings.

    5. The FED has destroyed savers and forced them into risk assets to support stock prices...people are not earning a return with any degree of safety and are forced into playing the stock market and market participation is near historic highs and that is good for stock prices

    6. Other central banks are owning financial assets, Japan being one, China another and the SNB admitting to owning stocks in our market. Central banks are propping up financial markets.

    None of the above makes for wage growth, machines control trading so even in the financial sector there is not really any strong job growth, people and institutions do not need a broker or an advisor they can just purchase a low fee ETF as there are more investments like ETF's than stocks trading in the market.
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    The reason why wages are not growing but the stock market goes up is due to some of the following-

    1. Financial engineering/float shrink. Companies are using cash flow and borrowing to buy back shares and increase dividends, this reduces the number of shares outstanding and thus increases earnings per share which in theory means higher stock prices

    2. Corporations are not spending on expansion or R&D they are laboring current employees harder to increase margin and profits. That is why the high high majority of job growth is not producing wage growth...jobs being created have and are below the median income and thus are not increasing wages. People are losing higher wage jobs and are taking low wage jobs because there are not high wage jobs available.

    3. The FED has created a decade long period of extremely low interest rates and corporations are leveraging up using this cheap debt and their interest expense is low enough that they can do what I mentioned in item number one.

    4. Corporations do not see demand so they are not hiring jobs that create income growth, so even with their balance sheet FULL of cash they are not hiring the kind of jobs that are needed to sustain economic growth and increase savings.

    5. The FED has destroyed savers and forced them into risk assets to support stock prices...people are not earning a return with any degree of safety and are forced into playing the stock market and market participation is near historic highs and that is good for stock prices

    6. Other central banks are owning financial assets, Japan being one, China another and the SNB admitting to owning stocks in our market. Central banks are propping up financial markets.

    None of the above makes for wage growth, machines control trading so even in the financial sector there is not really any strong job growth, people and institutions do not need a broker or an advisor they can just purchase a low fee ETF as there are more investments like ETF's than stocks trading in the market.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 8:25 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Economy went up 140% and median income went up 0.9% 


    The Democrats must believe in trickle down economics

    Reading comprehension, reading comprehension. The economy did no such thing. The stock market did. 

    i understand that plagiarizing makes it hard to write but it should not impact reading. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Economy went up 140% and median income went up 0.9% 


    The Democrats must believe in trickle down economics

    Reading comprehension, reading comprehension. The economy did no such thing. The stock market did. 

    i understand that plagiarizing makes it hard to write but it should not impact reading. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2017 - 8:32 PM ET #18

    Djbrow is the guy that gets whooped in an online debate and then starts following around the guy that whooped him correcting their spelling. 

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    Djbrow is the guy that gets whooped in an online debate and then starts following around the guy that whooped him correcting their spelling. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Djbrow is the guy that gets whooped in an online debate and then starts following around the guy that whooped him correcting their spelling. 


    Self proclaimed victories 

    I did no such thing. I commented on your reading comprehension.

    Notice how you didn't comment on the subject matter (increase of stock market under Obama). Do you know why that is? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Djbrow is the guy that gets whooped in an online debate and then starts following around the guy that whooped him correcting their spelling. 


    Self proclaimed victories 

    I did no such thing. I commented on your reading comprehension.

    Notice how you didn't comment on the subject matter (increase of stock market under Obama). Do you know why that is? 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2017 - 1:03 AM ET #20

    "It seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...we had some pretty bad (economy) disaster under the Republicans." --Donald J Trump

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRndMiVIB-w
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    "It seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...we had some pretty bad (economy) disaster under the Republicans." --Donald J Trump

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRndMiVIB-w
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2017 - 1:57 AM ET #21

    Trumps statement is as dumb as any1 giving Obama or any other president credit for the stock mkt.  just to play the game, however, obamas main issue was income disparity telling joe the plumber that he wanted others to share in the pie.   Yet, the income disparity got much worse.   This suggests failure and/or he didn't know what he was doing.
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    Trumps statement is as dumb as any1 giving Obama or any other president credit for the stock mkt.  just to play the game, however, obamas main issue was income disparity telling joe the plumber that he wanted others to share in the pie.   Yet, the income disparity got much worse.   This suggests failure and/or he didn't know what he was doing.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2017 - 2:05 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Pretty good. Trump inherited a good economy. 

    It only went up 140% during Obama. 

    https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/10/investing/obama-stock-market-trump/index.html

    #FACTS

    Well done 
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Pretty good. Trump inherited a good economy. 

    It only went up 140% during Obama. 

    https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/10/investing/obama-stock-market-trump/index.html

    #FACTS

    Well done 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    The reason why wages are not growing but the stock market goes up is due to some of the following-

    1. Financial engineering/float shrink. Companies are using cash flow and borrowing to buy back shares and increase dividends, this reduces the number of shares outstanding and thus increases earnings per share which in theory means higher stock prices

    2. Corporations are not spending on expansion or R&D they are laboring current employees harder to increase margin and profits. That is why the high high majority of job growth is not producing wage growth...jobs being created have and are below the median income and thus are not increasing wages. People are losing higher wage jobs and are taking low wage jobs because there are not high wage jobs available.

    3. The FED has created a decade long period of extremely low interest rates and corporations are leveraging up using this cheap debt and their interest expense is low enough that they can do what I mentioned in item number one.

    4. Corporations do not see demand so they are not hiring jobs that create income growth, so even with their balance sheet FULL of cash they are not hiring the kind of jobs that are needed to sustain economic growth and increase savings.

    5. The FED has destroyed savers and forced them into risk assets to support stock prices...people are not earning a return with any degree of safety and are forced into playing the stock market and market participation is near historic highs and that is good for stock prices

    6. Other central banks are owning financial assets, Japan being one, China another and the SNB admitting to owning stocks in our market. Central banks are propping up financial markets.

    None of the above makes for wage growth, machines control trading so even in the financial sector there is not really any strong job growth, people and institutions do not need a broker or an advisor they can just purchase a low fee ETF as there are more investments like ETF's than stocks trading in the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    The reason why wages are not growing but the stock market goes up is due to some of the following-

    1. Financial engineering/float shrink. Companies are using cash flow and borrowing to buy back shares and increase dividends, this reduces the number of shares outstanding and thus increases earnings per share which in theory means higher stock prices

    2. Corporations are not spending on expansion or R&D they are laboring current employees harder to increase margin and profits. That is why the high high majority of job growth is not producing wage growth...jobs being created have and are below the median income and thus are not increasing wages. People are losing higher wage jobs and are taking low wage jobs because there are not high wage jobs available.

    3. The FED has created a decade long period of extremely low interest rates and corporations are leveraging up using this cheap debt and their interest expense is low enough that they can do what I mentioned in item number one.

    4. Corporations do not see demand so they are not hiring jobs that create income growth, so even with their balance sheet FULL of cash they are not hiring the kind of jobs that are needed to sustain economic growth and increase savings.

    5. The FED has destroyed savers and forced them into risk assets to support stock prices...people are not earning a return with any degree of safety and are forced into playing the stock market and market participation is near historic highs and that is good for stock prices

    6. Other central banks are owning financial assets, Japan being one, China another and the SNB admitting to owning stocks in our market. Central banks are propping up financial markets.

    None of the above makes for wage growth, machines control trading so even in the financial sector there is not really any strong job growth, people and institutions do not need a broker or an advisor they can just purchase a low fee ETF as there are more investments like ETF's than stocks trading in the market.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    #FACTS

    Well done 

    I'm not sure equating stock market performance with the economy = facts.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    #FACTS

    Well done 

    I'm not sure equating stock market performance with the economy = facts.....
     
     
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