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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 10:46 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:



    WSC , you mean in the same way Kathy Griffin's Trump beheaded  photo did ?   

    Well that goes two ways, she crossed the line no question but she is not president of this country and Trump has personally attacked her MULTIPLE times, but that does not excuse her stupid retort.
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    WSC , you mean in the same way Kathy Griffin's Trump beheaded  photo did ?   

    Well that goes two ways, she crossed the line no question but she is not president of this country and Trump has personally attacked her MULTIPLE times, but that does not excuse her stupid retort.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 10:46 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Ha I answered that, I said it intentionally to pull out his biases, as I guess I did with you as you and he are quite similar in the insult department.

    I guess you do not agree that the Walmart demographic is what got Trump elected right? Well you would be wrong...

    Nobody believes that you intentionally put that there. 


    Tell me the last Democrat to win without the welfare demographic. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Ha I answered that, I said it intentionally to pull out his biases, as I guess I did with you as you and he are quite similar in the insult department.

    I guess you do not agree that the Walmart demographic is what got Trump elected right? Well you would be wrong...

    Nobody believes that you intentionally put that there. 


    Tell me the last Democrat to win without the welfare demographic. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 10:49 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    You said he was a bankrupt loser from New Jersey. In the real world, he was a billionaire. I thought you would know how all of this works? 

    Look up the success rate of the average person that starts a business. Then look at Trump's success rate. It would be like me making fun of Barry Bonds for striking out. It's an insane argument. 

    Actually I do not consider someone who leverages and runs to the BK courts when those gambling leveraged plays dont work to be a great businessman. And since he does not display his corporate or personal tax returns I have no idea what his net worth is. I do know when I was a broker when he went under some of the public bonds he floated went under and screwed some retirees that I know who invested in his bonds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    You said he was a bankrupt loser from New Jersey. In the real world, he was a billionaire. I thought you would know how all of this works? 

    Look up the success rate of the average person that starts a business. Then look at Trump's success rate. It would be like me making fun of Barry Bonds for striking out. It's an insane argument. 

    Actually I do not consider someone who leverages and runs to the BK courts when those gambling leveraged plays dont work to be a great businessman. And since he does not display his corporate or personal tax returns I have no idea what his net worth is. I do know when I was a broker when he went under some of the public bonds he floated went under and screwed some retirees that I know who invested in his bonds.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 10:50 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    In all seriousness I am more concerned with China than NK, Trump is offending and pushing China and with China being a very large trading partner AND one if not the largest owners of our debt I am quite concerned about what his mouth and ego could do with regards to China...

    I would like to hear your solution for dealing with North Korea because Bill Clinton and Barack Obama failed miserably. 

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    In all seriousness I am more concerned with China than NK, Trump is offending and pushing China and with China being a very large trading partner AND one if not the largest owners of our debt I am quite concerned about what his mouth and ego could do with regards to China...

    I would like to hear your solution for dealing with North Korea because Bill Clinton and Barack Obama failed miserably. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 10:52 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Nobody believes that you intentionally put that there. 


    Tell me the last Democrat to win without the welfare demographic. 


    Of course I did...I used the word specifically plus that demographic and physical demographic were why he won. 

    I cant answer about democrats because to me the reason why many democrats won was due to California and the EC...not the midwest where Walmart was founded and is most popular...plus Calif in its state averages are for sure not below the national average for income. 

    What states below the national average for income, in fact well below do democrats win that you are referencing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Nobody believes that you intentionally put that there. 


    Tell me the last Democrat to win without the welfare demographic. 


    Of course I did...I used the word specifically plus that demographic and physical demographic were why he won. 

    I cant answer about democrats because to me the reason why many democrats won was due to California and the EC...not the midwest where Walmart was founded and is most popular...plus Calif in its state averages are for sure not below the national average for income. 

    What states below the national average for income, in fact well below do democrats win that you are referencing?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 10:53 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Well that goes two ways, she crossed the line no question but she is not president of this country and Trump has personally attacked her MULTIPLE times, but that does not excuse her stupid retort.



    true , but she works for the Democrats  house / propaganda channel CNN , ahem worked ...  

    i think the rhetoric of parts of  the Democrats towards our President ,  this 8 month long Russia story with no proof  , this 24-7 Trump Bashing on all MSM channels should all of us worry more than Trump retweeting a joke / gif 





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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Well that goes two ways, she crossed the line no question but she is not president of this country and Trump has personally attacked her MULTIPLE times, but that does not excuse her stupid retort.



    true , but she works for the Democrats  house / propaganda channel CNN , ahem worked ...  

    i think the rhetoric of parts of  the Democrats towards our President ,  this 8 month long Russia story with no proof  , this 24-7 Trump Bashing on all MSM channels should all of us worry more than Trump retweeting a joke / gif 





     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 10:55 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    I would like to hear your solution for dealing with North Korea because Bill Clinton and Barack Obama failed miserably. 


    I've given this many many times...

    I dont think Clinton or Obama failed, was NK tossing warheads over Japan like they are now?

    If you want to get rid of someone that is a loud public figure there are smart ways to do that...and it is not putting a target on your back as Trump has rather either keep the enemy close and quiet being in control as to how you take them out.

    I worry more about China than NK.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    I would like to hear your solution for dealing with North Korea because Bill Clinton and Barack Obama failed miserably. 


    I've given this many many times...

    I dont think Clinton or Obama failed, was NK tossing warheads over Japan like they are now?

    If you want to get rid of someone that is a loud public figure there are smart ways to do that...and it is not putting a target on your back as Trump has rather either keep the enemy close and quiet being in control as to how you take them out.

    I worry more about China than NK.....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 10:57 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    I never said the dummy in charge there didnt deserve it...I said it was unbecoming of our leader to do this and it is a stupid decision to openly insult your enemy in public. He represents this country, not some two bit casinos in AC...he needs to think about his position more than his little ego.

    I wished BOH thought about this before making all those POOR decisions he made...just terrible decisions..ie the BOWE Bergdahl case, giving IRAN all that ransom cash..putting hacks like HRC and John Kerry in as SOS's..THose 2 can't compare with Rex's skill set...

    TRUE, DJT's behavior is a little offensive to many but BOH's was far worse when it came to making decisions...I'd much rather have someone with poor behavior than a terrible decision maker...

    Thank God Gen Kelly is in there trying to sort out this mess rather than having a bunch of out of control progressives and libs violating the US Constitution daily like the past 8 years....BTW....BOH continually INSULTED the AMERICAN PEOPLE..as did HRC (The DEPLORABLES)..

    Like DETOX points out..DIMMS are NOT getting elected for a reason...LIBERALISM and SOCIALISM FAILS!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    I never said the dummy in charge there didnt deserve it...I said it was unbecoming of our leader to do this and it is a stupid decision to openly insult your enemy in public. He represents this country, not some two bit casinos in AC...he needs to think about his position more than his little ego.

    I wished BOH thought about this before making all those POOR decisions he made...just terrible decisions..ie the BOWE Bergdahl case, giving IRAN all that ransom cash..putting hacks like HRC and John Kerry in as SOS's..THose 2 can't compare with Rex's skill set...

    TRUE, DJT's behavior is a little offensive to many but BOH's was far worse when it came to making decisions...I'd much rather have someone with poor behavior than a terrible decision maker...

    Thank God Gen Kelly is in there trying to sort out this mess rather than having a bunch of out of control progressives and libs violating the US Constitution daily like the past 8 years....BTW....BOH continually INSULTED the AMERICAN PEOPLE..as did HRC (The DEPLORABLES)..

    Like DETOX points out..DIMMS are NOT getting elected for a reason...LIBERALISM and SOCIALISM FAILS!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 10:58 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    As leader of this country he should be above that garbage..I would not find it funny if Obama did this towards Gingrich either, or any politician towards another, especially as leader of this country.

    Rosie brings plenty on herself I agree, that was not my comment...my comment was he has insulted people in public going back over a decade. The fact that he cannot control his yap is going to get people harmed, his decisions now are not the same as when he ran his own private/public businesses.

    Is this not an understandable concept? Or are you just trying to nitpick like the other guys here?

    Yeah- you're probably right-
    He should stay off of twitter and stick to blow jobs from interns...

    Oh, wait- his wife is pretty hot (unlike Bill's), so probably no need...


    The Kathy Griffin example perfectly exposes the left's hypocrisy, but, of course "it's not the same"- of course it isn't, a liberal nut job did it- the photo should be displayed in the f*cking Guggenheim...


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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    As leader of this country he should be above that garbage..I would not find it funny if Obama did this towards Gingrich either, or any politician towards another, especially as leader of this country.

    Rosie brings plenty on herself I agree, that was not my comment...my comment was he has insulted people in public going back over a decade. The fact that he cannot control his yap is going to get people harmed, his decisions now are not the same as when he ran his own private/public businesses.

    Is this not an understandable concept? Or are you just trying to nitpick like the other guys here?

    Yeah- you're probably right-
    He should stay off of twitter and stick to blow jobs from interns...

    Oh, wait- his wife is pretty hot (unlike Bill's), so probably no need...


    The Kathy Griffin example perfectly exposes the left's hypocrisy, but, of course "it's not the same"- of course it isn't, a liberal nut job did it- the photo should be displayed in the f*cking Guggenheim...


     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 11:05 PM ET #60

    The North Korean deal of 1994 is the prototype for why open societies should not negotiate arms control agreements with rogue regimes. The North Koreans duped Clinton and the Clinton administration to subsidise (we gave them billions) the North Korean nuclear program in exchange for the counterfeit promise that North Korea would limit itself to civilian nuclear power.

    If that's not a failure, I don't know what is. 

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    The North Korean deal of 1994 is the prototype for why open societies should not negotiate arms control agreements with rogue regimes. The North Koreans duped Clinton and the Clinton administration to subsidise (we gave them billions) the North Korean nuclear program in exchange for the counterfeit promise that North Korea would limit itself to civilian nuclear power.

    If that's not a failure, I don't know what is. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 11:14 PM ET #61

    In 1994 President Clinton said: “This US-North Korean agreement will help to achieve a long-standing and vital American objective: an end to the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean peninsula. This agreement is good for the United States, good for our allies, and good for the safety of the entire world. It’s a crucial step toward drawing North Korea into the global community.”

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    In 1994 President Clinton said: “This US-North Korean agreement will help to achieve a long-standing and vital American objective: an end to the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean peninsula. This agreement is good for the United States, good for our allies, and good for the safety of the entire world. It’s a crucial step toward drawing North Korea into the global community.”

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 11:14 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The North Korean deal of 1994 is the prototype for why open societies should not negotiate arms control agreements with rogue regimes. The North Koreans duped Clinton and the Clinton administration to subsidise (we gave them billions) the North Korean nuclear program in exchange for the counterfeit promise that North Korea would limit itself to civilian nuclear power.

    If that's not a failure, I don't know what is. 



    Obama's Iran deal is not different from this IMO , we all know where this will lead to , unless Israel will act, and they will one fine night.



    for sure the Mullah's are watching very carefully the NK / US / China escalations these days ,  and they are unfortunately not the only ones , nuclear arms are a life insurance for every regime / Dictator .









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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The North Korean deal of 1994 is the prototype for why open societies should not negotiate arms control agreements with rogue regimes. The North Koreans duped Clinton and the Clinton administration to subsidise (we gave them billions) the North Korean nuclear program in exchange for the counterfeit promise that North Korea would limit itself to civilian nuclear power.

    If that's not a failure, I don't know what is. 



    Obama's Iran deal is not different from this IMO , we all know where this will lead to , unless Israel will act, and they will one fine night.



    for sure the Mullah's are watching very carefully the NK / US / China escalations these days ,  and they are unfortunately not the only ones , nuclear arms are a life insurance for every regime / Dictator .









     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 11:15 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:


    Yeah- you're probably right-
    He should stay off of twitter and stick to blow jobs from interns...

    Oh, wait- his wife is pretty hot (unlike Bill's), so probably no need...


    The Kathy Griffin example perfectly exposes the left's hypocrisy, but, of course "it's not the same"- of course it isn't, a liberal nut job did it- the photo should be displayed in the f*cking Guggenheim...



    Griffin is not a political leader, not at all. She is a B-rate comedian with a way too sharp edge and an agenda against Trump with a long history between them. I dont see why she is brought up at all, she was looking for attention and got it...she didnt think through her choice as usual and it stung her. Maybe Trump could learn about making better decisions, he makes many bad ones like she did...but lucky for us she is some small potato comedian and not the leader of hundreds of millions of people.
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    Yeah- you're probably right-
    He should stay off of twitter and stick to blow jobs from interns...

    Oh, wait- his wife is pretty hot (unlike Bill's), so probably no need...


    The Kathy Griffin example perfectly exposes the left's hypocrisy, but, of course "it's not the same"- of course it isn't, a liberal nut job did it- the photo should be displayed in the f*cking Guggenheim...



    Griffin is not a political leader, not at all. She is a B-rate comedian with a way too sharp edge and an agenda against Trump with a long history between them. I dont see why she is brought up at all, she was looking for attention and got it...she didnt think through her choice as usual and it stung her. Maybe Trump could learn about making better decisions, he makes many bad ones like she did...but lucky for us she is some small potato comedian and not the leader of hundreds of millions of people.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 11:16 PM ET #64

    When did North Korea build all these warheads they are tossing over Japan.  Give me a beak if you think the North Korea policy was a success prior to Trump.
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    When did North Korea build all these warheads they are tossing over Japan.  Give me a beak if you think the North Korea policy was a success prior to Trump.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The North Korean deal of 1994 is the prototype for why open societies should not negotiate arms control agreements with rogue regimes. The North Koreans duped Clinton and the Clinton administration to subsidise (we gave them billions) the North Korean nuclear program in exchange for the counterfeit promise that North Korea would limit itself to civilian nuclear power.

    If that's not a failure, I don't know what is. 




    NoKo wasn't tossing warheads over Japan like they are now because they didn't have the warheads that they have now..nor the nuke power..

    .... the North Korean deal of 1994 was with the help of peacemaker Jimmy Carter who negotiated a sellout deal that gave North Korea two new reactors and $5 billion in aid in return for a promise to quit seeking nukes.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The North Korean deal of 1994 is the prototype for why open societies should not negotiate arms control agreements with rogue regimes. The North Koreans duped Clinton and the Clinton administration to subsidise (we gave them billions) the North Korean nuclear program in exchange for the counterfeit promise that North Korea would limit itself to civilian nuclear power.

    If that's not a failure, I don't know what is. 




    NoKo wasn't tossing warheads over Japan like they are now because they didn't have the warheads that they have now..nor the nuke power..

    .... the North Korean deal of 1994 was with the help of peacemaker Jimmy Carter who negotiated a sellout deal that gave North Korea two new reactors and $5 billion in aid in return for a promise to quit seeking nukes.....
     
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    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=063_1505688827

    Here's the video in question-
    judge for yourself how threatening or offensive it is...
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    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=063_1505688827

    Here's the video in question-
    judge for yourself how threatening or offensive it is...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The North Korean deal of 1994 is the prototype for why open societies should not negotiate arms control agreements with rogue regimes. The North Koreans duped Clinton and the Clinton administration to subsidise (we gave them billions) the North Korean nuclear program in exchange for the counterfeit promise that North Korea would limit itself to civilian nuclear power.

    If that's not a failure, I don't know what is. 


    My personal opinion on that topic is this...

    I think past leaders have ZERO interest in starting a conflict with NK, it is a major lose lose lose for us, we gain nothing from starting a war or conflict...we spend trillions (worse than Iraq) and lose probably millions of lives and we tick off China...China is the older kid of the little punk we want to beat up who really could kick the crap out of you...I do not see any way to win a conflict with NK...none at all.

    So you try and navigate what options you have while keeping the lid on this situation and minimizing the potential it could have if we do what Trump is doing.

    Trump is not handling this situation correctly for what options we have, there is no WIN here...much like Bush and Iraq. There was no WIN in Iraq, only loss and who did not see that coming from a far distance? I know I did and I know some here did NOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The North Korean deal of 1994 is the prototype for why open societies should not negotiate arms control agreements with rogue regimes. The North Koreans duped Clinton and the Clinton administration to subsidise (we gave them billions) the North Korean nuclear program in exchange for the counterfeit promise that North Korea would limit itself to civilian nuclear power.

    If that's not a failure, I don't know what is. 


    My personal opinion on that topic is this...

    I think past leaders have ZERO interest in starting a conflict with NK, it is a major lose lose lose for us, we gain nothing from starting a war or conflict...we spend trillions (worse than Iraq) and lose probably millions of lives and we tick off China...China is the older kid of the little punk we want to beat up who really could kick the crap out of you...I do not see any way to win a conflict with NK...none at all.

    So you try and navigate what options you have while keeping the lid on this situation and minimizing the potential it could have if we do what Trump is doing.

    Trump is not handling this situation correctly for what options we have, there is no WIN here...much like Bush and Iraq. There was no WIN in Iraq, only loss and who did not see that coming from a far distance? I know I did and I know some here did NOT.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    When did North Korea build all these warheads they are tossing over Japan.  Give me a beak if you think the North Korea policy was a success prior to Trump.

    There is no WIN scenario there, not before and not now. Was NK performing field tests over Japan and towards us with past admins?

    I do not recall that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    When did North Korea build all these warheads they are tossing over Japan.  Give me a beak if you think the North Korea policy was a success prior to Trump.

    There is no WIN scenario there, not before and not now. Was NK performing field tests over Japan and towards us with past admins?

    I do not recall that...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 11:22 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=063_1505688827

    Here's the video in question-
    judge for yourself how threatening or offensive it is...
     
    Its inappropriate as leader of this country period. I dont find it appropriate in any way, its classless and immature and beneath the leader of this country to act this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=063_1505688827

    Here's the video in question-
    judge for yourself how threatening or offensive it is...
     
    Its inappropriate as leader of this country period. I dont find it appropriate in any way, its classless and immature and beneath the leader of this country to act this way.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 11:25 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

     
    Its inappropriate as leader of this country period. I dont find it appropriate in any way, its classless and immature and beneath the leader of this country to act this way.

    How about getting a blow job from an intern (while married)?
    I would think your second sentence describes it perfectly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

     
    Its inappropriate as leader of this country period. I dont find it appropriate in any way, its classless and immature and beneath the leader of this country to act this way.

    How about getting a blow job from an intern (while married)?
    I would think your second sentence describes it perfectly...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 11:26 PM ET #71

    That video was just a joke... Trump meant no harm, but to get his enemies crying over nothing.... it should have had it ricochet around the plane hitting Bill, Waters, Pelosi, Warren, Bernie and Feinstein, Lynch, Schultz, Comey, Rachel Maddow and Obama cowering in the inside! Would have been priceless.

    I guess you can say it's immature, but Trump isn't a standard or ordinary politician.   Obama and Bush acted like ordinary politicians, and always screwed everything up.  Look at the middle East the last 16 years... we would have been better off without a president.   You couldn't screw things up more than Bush and Obama if you tried to sabatoge the USA.   And don't forget about the Clintons and how they handled North Korea... It's a joke.   Even a broken clock is right twice a day.   
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    That video was just a joke... Trump meant no harm, but to get his enemies crying over nothing.... it should have had it ricochet around the plane hitting Bill, Waters, Pelosi, Warren, Bernie and Feinstein, Lynch, Schultz, Comey, Rachel Maddow and Obama cowering in the inside! Would have been priceless.

    I guess you can say it's immature, but Trump isn't a standard or ordinary politician.   Obama and Bush acted like ordinary politicians, and always screwed everything up.  Look at the middle East the last 16 years... we would have been better off without a president.   You couldn't screw things up more than Bush and Obama if you tried to sabatoge the USA.   And don't forget about the Clintons and how they handled North Korea... It's a joke.   Even a broken clock is right twice a day.   
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 11:31 PM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    My personal opinion on that topic is this...

    I think past leaders have ZERO interest in starting a conflict with NK, it is a major lose lose lose for us, we gain nothing from starting a war or conflict...we spend trillions (worse than Iraq) and lose probably millions of lives and we tick off China...China is the older kid of the little punk we want to beat up who really could kick the crap out of you...I do not see any way to win a conflict with NK...none at all.

    So you try and navigate what options you have while keeping the lid on this situation and minimizing the potential it could have if we do what Trump is doing.

    Trump is not handling this situation correctly for what options we have, there is no WIN here...much like Bush and Iraq. There was no WIN in Iraq, only loss and who did not see that coming from a far distance? I know I did and I know some here did NOT.

    In regards to Iraq, we had to get them back on the petrodollar. How important is the petrodollar? I'm not sure but I think it's pretty damn important to our country. Real journalism would tackle questions like that but we don't have many real journalists in this country. 

    What would it take to get back to the gold standard? How important is the petrodollar? Do we have to protect the petrodollar at all cost? 

    I wouldn't mind seeing the NYT, WaPo designate some resources to that topic for a week or two instead of knocking TRUMP for retweeting a gif. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    My personal opinion on that topic is this...

    I think past leaders have ZERO interest in starting a conflict with NK, it is a major lose lose lose for us, we gain nothing from starting a war or conflict...we spend trillions (worse than Iraq) and lose probably millions of lives and we tick off China...China is the older kid of the little punk we want to beat up who really could kick the crap out of you...I do not see any way to win a conflict with NK...none at all.

    So you try and navigate what options you have while keeping the lid on this situation and minimizing the potential it could have if we do what Trump is doing.

    Trump is not handling this situation correctly for what options we have, there is no WIN here...much like Bush and Iraq. There was no WIN in Iraq, only loss and who did not see that coming from a far distance? I know I did and I know some here did NOT.

    In regards to Iraq, we had to get them back on the petrodollar. How important is the petrodollar? I'm not sure but I think it's pretty damn important to our country. Real journalism would tackle questions like that but we don't have many real journalists in this country. 

    What would it take to get back to the gold standard? How important is the petrodollar? Do we have to protect the petrodollar at all cost? 

    I wouldn't mind seeing the NYT, WaPo designate some resources to that topic for a week or two instead of knocking TRUMP for retweeting a gif. 
     
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    I think it's hilarious, why does a president have to act like there's a stick up his #$$.  I love having a president who knows how to properly troll and trigger snowflake liberals.  

    But when anyone jokes about Trump...its passed off as great political humor.   You libs are just mad because can give it as well as take it.  

    Besides, we all know Hillary is perfectly capable of falling on her face, without a golf ball hitting her back. 
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    I think it's hilarious, why does a president have to act like there's a stick up his #$$.  I love having a president who knows how to properly troll and trigger snowflake liberals.  

    But when anyone jokes about Trump...its passed off as great political humor.   You libs are just mad because can give it as well as take it.  

    Besides, we all know Hillary is perfectly capable of falling on her face, without a golf ball hitting her back. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:


    How about getting a blow job from an intern (while married)?
    I would think your second sentence describes it perfectly...

    Did Clinton come out on Twitter and send a gif insinuating he got a BJ from an intern under the desk?

    Oh and I am sure Trump has some handling that happened on his behalf in the past in this regard. 

    The issue isnt that politicians arent schmucks, we know that..its how you publically control your flaws. Clinton and Trump examples are a bit of a stretch with regards to comparisons. I know you keep trying but really it is not the same..

    The same would be Clinton coming out and making a golf gif aimed at some guy like Ken Starr or Gingrich, some foe of his that he might dislike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:


    How about getting a blow job from an intern (while married)?
    I would think your second sentence describes it perfectly...

    Did Clinton come out on Twitter and send a gif insinuating he got a BJ from an intern under the desk?

    Oh and I am sure Trump has some handling that happened on his behalf in the past in this regard. 

    The issue isnt that politicians arent schmucks, we know that..its how you publically control your flaws. Clinton and Trump examples are a bit of a stretch with regards to comparisons. I know you keep trying but really it is not the same..

    The same would be Clinton coming out and making a golf gif aimed at some guy like Ken Starr or Gingrich, some foe of his that he might dislike.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2017 - 11:33 PM ET #75

    Thank God that REX TILLERSON is in the middle of all this negotiating..

    Yes, WALL China is the big bear who has all the power except our FINANCIAL might..and YES, DJT is using it in all negotiations...this REALLY is a China problem that they need to deal with..they helped create this mess, they better be instrumental in cleaning it up....

    I appreciate you entertaining interactions with all of despite your opines/positions I disagree with 
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    Thank God that REX TILLERSON is in the middle of all this negotiating..

    Yes, WALL China is the big bear who has all the power except our FINANCIAL might..and YES, DJT is using it in all negotiations...this REALLY is a China problem that they need to deal with..they helped create this mess, they better be instrumental in cleaning it up....

    I appreciate you entertaining interactions with all of despite your opines/positions I disagree with 
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