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Hillary dropped from -320 yesterday to -130 today to win Florida???

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  • Trump’s showing in the poll is stronger than in other recent surveys in the Sunshine State; Clinton had an advantage of 3.1 points in the RealClearPolitics Florida average on Tuesday
  • While Trump currently doesn’t have a path to the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency, or even to 265 votes, “he’s not deteriorated as badly in the battleground states” as in national polls, Bloomberg Politics’ Mark Halperin said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe”



    • Can he really win Florida? A heavily Hispanic state and one Obama won twice???

     
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    Yes. Trump will win Florida.Hillary is no guarantee. The alt right is killing her,
     
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    Alright Bloomberg has Trump up 2 in Florida. That's why. But wow. Pretty sick jump for trump.
     
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    Trump has huge momentum. Close, tight election.
     
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    I put out a few scenarios in the general discussion thread on how Trump possibly gets to 269....notice I did not say 270. It is going to take something to get to 270. 

    The worrisome number for the HRC camp should be the Pennsylvania polling data....only ahead near the margin of error. 

    If PA flips, she is very vulnerable. Also, the turnout in early voting is reported as being record setting. Who knows what side is getting the lionshare of the action, but I would say that large turnouts are a good sign for the change candidate. 
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    The beauty of this election is the mainstream media has lost all credibility. They are a joke.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    I put out a few scenarios in the general discussion thread on how Trump possibly gets to 269....notice I did not say 270. It is going to take something to get to 270. 

    The worrisome number for the HRC camp should be the Pennsylvania polling data....only ahead near the margin of error. 

    If PA flips, she is very vulnerable. Also, the turnout in early voting is reported as being record setting. Who knows what side is getting the lionshare of the action, but I would say that large turnouts are a good sign for the change candidate. 

    She's going to win Pennsylvania Vern. I am 100% confident tin that. Last I checked she was -900 in Penn. That state is done.
     
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    It certainly looks that way. From my perspective, the urban areas of Pitt and Philly will carry the state over any gains Trump can make in rural areas. I am not lining up to take Trump at + odds to win PA.

    However, to play devil's advocate, take a look at the margin of victory by Obama in 2008, 2012 and HRC's current polling numbers in PA: 

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5964.html

    Obama by a 10% margin in 2008, 5% margin in 2012 and HRC is currently at a 5% polling advantage. Even Obama saw 1/2 the support in 2012......Are we to believe that HRC is going to hold serve in PA with the same numbers that Obama put up in 2012?

    I highly doubt that democrat turnout will enable her to do that.....I look for a dwindling margin, more likely in the 1-3% range. IF lightning strikes here, then the race becomes wide open.

    So, you have a tight one in PA. Does it likely go HRC? Yes. Is -900 a good bet. No.



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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:



    Can he really win Florida? A heavily Hispanic state and one Obama won twice???




    highly unlikely.  silver even commented on this.  FL has been one of the most consistent states from a polling standpoint.  FL is one of the most polled states, maybe the most, and clinton has been up 2-5 in almost every one.  pretty amazing. 
     
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    But Clinton trails right now by two. Not worried. Slightly concerned but not worried.

    Obama in 2012 was a different animal Vern but I see your point.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    But Clinton trails right now by two. Not worried. Slightly concerned but not worried.

    Obama in 2012 was a different animal Vern but I see your point.




    i'm not sure she does.  the most recent poll has her +4 in FL.  the one at the top of the list at 538 has her +3.  if you go down the list, that's where she's been forever.  she could lose FL but she's not losing FL right now by any aggregate measure. 
     
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    The following is the list of 16 states that have Soros owned machines. Can you imagine if a Trump subsidiary/company owned the machines in these states? The Left would be crying like little girls.

    1. Arizona
    2. Colorado
    3. Florida
    4. Michigan
    5. Nevada
    6. Pennsylvania
    7. Virginia
    8. California
    9. District of Columbia
    10. Illinois
    11. Louisiana
    12. Missouri
    13. New Jersey
    14. Oregon
    15. Washington
    16. Wisconsin


     
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    Tim Kaine was scheduled to be in Sarasota Friday, but the event has been cancelled...

    The event with Tim Kaine was scheduled for Friday at 6 p.m. at the Municipal Auditorium......no word why the event was cancelled..Hmmmm

    Maybe it's because the one he held in West Palm Beach, Florida a few days ago only drew a couple dozen people..

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wow-tim-kaine-holds-rally-30-people-show/

     
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    Pennsylvania has the highest percentage of it's population living in a Rural designation. That ain't Hillary country.
     
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    Hillary's promise of, ‘We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business"..should go over big in Pennsylvania..
     
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    it's, coal is dead vs. i buy my steel in china for PA voters.  not great choices for those people. 
     
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    I cannot see Trump being able to overcome the urban areas in PA.....my wife's extended family live in rural PA, and they are all Trump, anti Clinton/Obama. Although that is the trend among landowners/taxpayers/small business operators, there simply isn't enough of them.

    The only way that PA swings Trump is if voters in the cities decide not to fight traffic and stay home. And, of course, if the Republicans actually monitor the polling stations and Diebold machines.

    PA will be hotly contested, but I would be surprised if the Clinton machine loses there. It will take a Trump landslide to win the state. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    it's, coal is dead vs. i buy my steel in china for PA voters.  not great choices for those people. 

    If Trump wasn't such a crappy debater, when HRC made the crack about Trump buying steel from China to build his hotels, Trump should have responded by explaining the reason he does so is a direct result of the Clinton approved sh!tty trade deals. 

    Her attempt at mocking Trump was actually a slow pitched soft ball waiting to be hit out of the park by Trump ... and he whiffed 
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    Here is FLA as of right now (if you believe polls):

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5963.html

    Clinton by and RCP of 1.2%....again, I go to the same rationale as used in the PA race...... Obama won by 2.8% in 2008, and a razor thin .9% in 2012...not a good trend for Democrats.

    I haven't pulled the trigger yet on Trump ML for FLA yet, but there is a real shot of Trump winning the state big. 
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    *Clinton by an RCP of 1.2%


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    Quote Originally Posted by jasperslegs:

    If the media treated both candidates equally trump would win in a landslide.

    We don't have elections in this country.  Hillary was selected a long time ago - since June of 2015 that I know of, but probably much longer than that.  This has probably been planned for a decade.

    Whatever the max bet is for election is, I'll be on it.



     
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    Justice is now being served on HRC.  The FBI has something rock solid on her or Comey wouldn't bring it up.  His guilt and the mutiny in the FBI finally forced him to do the correct thing
     
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    You gogirl 
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The following is the list of 16 states that have Soros owned machines. Can you imagine if a Trump subsidiary/company owned the machines in these states? The Left would be crying like little girls.

    1. Arizona
    2. Colorado
    3. Florida
    4. Michigan
    5. Nevada
    6. Pennsylvania
    7. Virginia
    8. California
    9. District of Columbia
    10. Illinois
    11. Louisiana
    12. Missouri
    13. New Jersey
    14. Oregon
    15. Washington
    16. Wisconsin


    Soros does not own any voting machines. This is one of many right-wing conspiracy theories that is circulating the web.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    it's, coal is dead vs. i buy my steel in china for PA voters.  not great choices for those people. 
    No kidding. The working class gets screwed either way. When will people wake the fu$4 up?
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