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    GOP Leader _INDICTED_ on multiple criminal FRAUD charges; other criminal investigations continue

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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2023 - 7:44 PM ET #426

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: President Biden to hold an important "Address on Democracy"  to the nation today at 2:45 pm et The President who has achieved more net good for America in his first 2.5 years compared with any modern era president in their first 2.5 years, ..

    thats the key pt right there  

    an_cheers

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: President Biden to hold an important "Address on Democracy"  to the nation today at 2:45 pm et The President who has achieved more net good for America in his first 2.5 years compared with any modern era president in their first 2.5 years, ..

    thats the key pt right there  

    an_cheers

     

     

     

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2023 - 6:20 PM ET #427

    Trump lost a court case in Florida, so now he's trying to fight the same case but in England, hoping for a better outcome.

    an_roll_laugh

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    Trump lost a court case in Florida, so now he's trying to fight the same case but in England, hoping for a better outcome.

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2023 - 12:17 AM ET #428

    Reports are suggesting now it is possible there could be MORE CHARGES filed against the GOP leader in the coming weeks..... He's already been arrested 4 times and indicted on 91 felony counts......

    Stay tuned!

         an_popcorn

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    Reports are suggesting now it is possible there could be MORE CHARGES filed against the GOP leader in the coming weeks..... He's already been arrested 4 times and indicted on 91 felony counts......

    Stay tuned!

         an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2023 - 10:19 AM ET #429

    Judge Finds Trump Poses ‘Grave Threat’ To Judicial Process; Issues Gag Order

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    HUFFPOST -

    WASHINGTON —
    Donald Trump’s verbal and written attacks on participants
    in the criminal case against him pose a “grave threat” to
    the judicial process and warrant a limited gag order, the
    judge overseeing the Jan. 6 coup attempt case against
    him wrote.

    “Since his indictment, and even after the government
    filed the instant motion, defendant has continued to
    make similar statements attacking individuals involved
    in the judicial process, including potential witnesses,
    prosecutors, and court staff,” U.S. District Judge Tanya
    Chutkan wrote in her three-page order formalizing her
    ruling from the bench.

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    Judge Finds Trump Poses ‘Grave Threat’ To Judicial Process; Issues Gag Order

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    HUFFPOST -

    WASHINGTON —
    Donald Trump’s verbal and written attacks on participants
    in the criminal case against him pose a “grave threat” to
    the judicial process and warrant a limited gag order, the
    judge overseeing the Jan. 6 coup attempt case against
    him wrote.

    “Since his indictment, and even after the government
    filed the instant motion, defendant has continued to
    make similar statements attacking individuals involved
    in the judicial process, including potential witnesses,
    prosecutors, and court staff,” U.S. District Judge Tanya
    Chutkan wrote in her three-page order formalizing her
    ruling from the bench.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2023 - 5:23 AM ET #430

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Judge Finds Trump Poses ‘Grave Threat’ To Judicial Process; Issues Gag Order            

    HUFFPOST - WASHINGTON —Donald Trump’s verbal and written attacks on participants in the criminal case against him pose a “grave threat” to the judicial process and warrant a limited gag order, the judge overseeing the Jan. 6 coup attempt case against him wrote. “Since his indictment, and even after the government filed the instant motion, defendant has continued to make similar statements attacking individuals involved in the judicial process, including potential witnesses, prosecutors, and court staff,” U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan wrote in her three-page order formalizing her ruling from the bench.

    “Defendant has made those statements to
    national audiences using language communicating
    not merely that he believes the process to be illegitimate,
    but also that particular individuals involved in it are liars,
    or ‘thugs,’ or deserve death,” she wrote.
        “Undisputed testimony cited by the government
         demonstrates that when defendant has publicly
         attacked individuals, including on matters related
         to this case, those individuals are consequently
         threatened and harassed.”

    While the order is technically directed at everyone
    associated in the case and also protects defense
    lawyers from attacks, her recent two-hour hearing
    was based entirely on Trump’s conduct.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Judge Finds Trump Poses ‘Grave Threat’ To Judicial Process; Issues Gag Order            

    HUFFPOST - WASHINGTON —Donald Trump’s verbal and written attacks on participants in the criminal case against him pose a “grave threat” to the judicial process and warrant a limited gag order, the judge overseeing the Jan. 6 coup attempt case against him wrote. “Since his indictment, and even after the government filed the instant motion, defendant has continued to make similar statements attacking individuals involved in the judicial process, including potential witnesses, prosecutors, and court staff,” U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan wrote in her three-page order formalizing her ruling from the bench.

    “Defendant has made those statements to
    national audiences using language communicating
    not merely that he believes the process to be illegitimate,
    but also that particular individuals involved in it are liars,
    or ‘thugs,’ or deserve death,” she wrote.
        “Undisputed testimony cited by the government
         demonstrates that when defendant has publicly
         attacked individuals, including on matters related
         to this case, those individuals are consequently
         threatened and harassed.”

    While the order is technically directed at everyone
    associated in the case and also protects defense
    lawyers from attacks, her recent two-hour hearing
    was based entirely on Trump’s conduct.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2023 - 8:12 AM ET #431

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Judge Finds Trump Poses ‘Grave Threat’ To Judicial Process; Issues Gag Order             HUFFPOST - WASHINGTON —Donald Trump’s verbal and written attacks on participants in the criminal case against him pose a “grave threat” to the judicial process and warrant a limited gag order, the judge overseeing the Jan. 6 coup attempt case against him wrote. “Since his indictment, and even after the government filed the instant motion, defendant has continued to make similar statements attacking individuals involved in the judicial process, including potential witnesses, prosecutors, and court staff,” U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan wrote in her three-page order formalizing her ruling from the bench. “Defendant has made those statements to national audiences using language communicating not merely that he believes the process to be illegitimate, but also that particular individuals involved in it are liars, or ‘thugs,’ or deserve death,” she wrote.     “Undisputed testimony cited by the government      demonstrates that when defendant has publicly      attacked individuals, including on matters related      to this case, those individuals are consequently     threatened and harassed.” While the order is technically directed at everyone associated in the case and also protects defense lawyers from attacks, her recent two-hour hearing was based entirely on Trump’s conduct.

    Trump RICO lawyer John Lauro argued that
    because Trump is a candidate seeking the
    Republican presidential nomination in 2024,
    the First Amendment protects any and all of
    his statements.

    Chutkan rejected that, pointing out repeatedly
    that as a criminal defendant, Trump agreed
    to give up some rights as a condition of his
    pretrial release on bail.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Judge Finds Trump Poses ‘Grave Threat’ To Judicial Process; Issues Gag Order             HUFFPOST - WASHINGTON —Donald Trump’s verbal and written attacks on participants in the criminal case against him pose a “grave threat” to the judicial process and warrant a limited gag order, the judge overseeing the Jan. 6 coup attempt case against him wrote. “Since his indictment, and even after the government filed the instant motion, defendant has continued to make similar statements attacking individuals involved in the judicial process, including potential witnesses, prosecutors, and court staff,” U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan wrote in her three-page order formalizing her ruling from the bench. “Defendant has made those statements to national audiences using language communicating not merely that he believes the process to be illegitimate, but also that particular individuals involved in it are liars, or ‘thugs,’ or deserve death,” she wrote.     “Undisputed testimony cited by the government      demonstrates that when defendant has publicly      attacked individuals, including on matters related      to this case, those individuals are consequently     threatened and harassed.” While the order is technically directed at everyone associated in the case and also protects defense lawyers from attacks, her recent two-hour hearing was based entirely on Trump’s conduct.

    Trump RICO lawyer John Lauro argued that
    because Trump is a candidate seeking the
    Republican presidential nomination in 2024,
    the First Amendment protects any and all of
    his statements.

    Chutkan rejected that, pointing out repeatedly
    that as a criminal defendant, Trump agreed
    to give up some rights as a condition of his
    pretrial release on bail.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2023 - 8:00 PM ET #432

    Headlines today . . .

     

    an_police Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies

    New York
    CNN
    —
    A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans.

    The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains.

    McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC.

    McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth.

    He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties:

    $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort;

    $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan;

    $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago;

    and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street.

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    Headlines today . . .

     

    an_police Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies

    New York
    CNN
    —
    A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans.

    The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains.

    McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC.

    McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth.

    He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties:

    $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort;

    $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan;

    $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago;

    and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street.

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2023 - 9:27 AM ET #433

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Judge Finds Trump Poses ‘Grave Threat’ To Judicial Process; Issues Gag Order   

    Appealed.  Failed.  Re-applied.

    As it should be.

    May expand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Judge Finds Trump Poses ‘Grave Threat’ To Judicial Process; Issues Gag Order   

    Appealed.  Failed.  Re-applied.

    As it should be.

    May expand.

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2023 - 8:07 PM ET #434

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street.

    That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster!  surprised

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street.

    That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster!  surprised

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2023 - 9:57 AM ET #435

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street. That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster!
    Trump not only looked like a moron on the witness stand Monday but acted like one too  an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street. That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster!
    Trump not only looked like a moron on the witness stand Monday but acted like one too  an_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street. That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster! Trump not only looked like a moron on the witness stand Monday but acted like one too
    There's a reason for that.  LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street. That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster! Trump not only looked like a moron on the witness stand Monday but acted like one too
    There's a reason for that.  LOL

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street. That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster!
    Trial will conclude soon.  He's already been convicted by summary judgement on one of the charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street. That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster!
    Trial will conclude soon.  He's already been convicted by summary judgement on one of the charges.

     
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    Outcome of Trump’s fraud trial could have ‘seismic’ negative impact on his businesses

    The New York civil fraud trial of former President Donald Trump carries extremely high stakes for the self-proclaimed business mogul.

    Not only could Trump be subject to hefty financial penalties and lose control of his flagship properties dotting the Manhattan skyline, the trial also could significantly reshape his business empire, said Will Thomas, assistant professor of business law at the University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business.

    “It’s between severe and seismic” as to the effects on Trump’s businesses, Thomas told CNN on Monday.

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    Outcome of Trump’s fraud trial could have ‘seismic’ negative impact on his businesses

    The New York civil fraud trial of former President Donald Trump carries extremely high stakes for the self-proclaimed business mogul.

    Not only could Trump be subject to hefty financial penalties and lose control of his flagship properties dotting the Manhattan skyline, the trial also could significantly reshape his business empire, said Will Thomas, assistant professor of business law at the University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business.

    “It’s between severe and seismic” as to the effects on Trump’s businesses, Thomas told CNN on Monday.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Outcome of Trump’s fraud trial could have ‘seismic’ negative impact on his businesses The New York civil fraud trial of former President Donald Trump carries extremely high stakes for the self-proclaimed business mogul. Not only could Trump be subject to hefty financial penalties and lose control of his flagship properties dotting the Manhattan skyline, the trial also could significantly reshape his business empire, said Will Thomas, assistant professor of business law at the University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business. “It’s between severe and seismic” as to the effects on Trump’s businesses, Thomas told CNN on Monday.
    It was not immediately clear how the New York entities and properties might be dissolved under a receiver and what it may mean for holdings outside of the state. Early last month, an appeals court judge paused the dissolution process for the duration of the ongoing $250 million fraud trial.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Outcome of Trump’s fraud trial could have ‘seismic’ negative impact on his businesses The New York civil fraud trial of former President Donald Trump carries extremely high stakes for the self-proclaimed business mogul. Not only could Trump be subject to hefty financial penalties and lose control of his flagship properties dotting the Manhattan skyline, the trial also could significantly reshape his business empire, said Will Thomas, assistant professor of business law at the University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business. “It’s between severe and seismic” as to the effects on Trump’s businesses, Thomas told CNN on Monday.
    It was not immediately clear how the New York entities and properties might be dissolved under a receiver and what it may mean for holdings outside of the state. Early last month, an appeals court judge paused the dissolution process for the duration of the ongoing $250 million fraud trial.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street. That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster! Trial will conclude soon.  He's already been convicted by summary judgement on one of the charges.

    defense gets their turn on monday but i am curious about the cross examination to nail the coffin shut thumbs_up

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street. That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster! Trial will conclude soon.  He's already been convicted by summary judgement on one of the charges.

    defense gets their turn on monday but i am curious about the cross examination to nail the coffin shut thumbs_up

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street. That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster! Trial will conclude soon.  He's already been convicted by summary judgement on one of the charges. defense gets their turn on monday but i am curious about the cross examination to nail the coffin shut

    Don Jr didn't help matters much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Headlines today . . .   Trump and accomplices saved $168 million in loan interest as a result of fraud, banking expert testifies New YorkCNN — A banking expert testified Wednesday that Donald Trump and his company benefited more than $168 million by obtaining favorable loan terms on transactions where the former president personally guaranteed the loans. The New York Attorney General’s office called Michiel McCarty to testify about his assessment of the $168 million in ill-gotten gains. McCarty analyzed the lending documents related to transactions at issue in this case for the following Trump Organization properties: 40 Wall Street in New York, The Doral Golf Resort & Spa in Florida, Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Old Post Office project in Washington DC. McCarty calculated the difference in interest payments that Trump might have paid with a commercial real estate loan that would have had a much higher interest rate than the rate he obtained by personally guaranteeing the loans on the basis of financial statements that inflated his net worth. He determined the Trump Organization saved on interest for the properties: $72,908,308 for the Doral Resort; $53,423,209 for the Old Post Office loan; $17,443,359 for Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago; and $24,265,291 for 40 Wall Street. That's a whole lot of fraud even for a fraudster! Trial will conclude soon.  He's already been convicted by summary judgement on one of the charges. defense gets their turn on monday but i am curious about the cross examination to nail the coffin shut

    Don Jr didn't help matters much!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias.

    Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.

     

    No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias.

    Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.

     

    No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias. Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.   No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course.

    New audio evidence from reporter Jonathon Karl helps to make the case against Trump's defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias. Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.   No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course.

    New audio evidence from reporter Jonathon Karl helps to make the case against Trump's defense

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2023 - 10:19 AM ET #444

    Yet Another State Is Probing the Trump Fake Elector Scheme

    Nevada’s Attorney General Aaron Ford has opened an investigation into efforts by Republicans in the state to undermine Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election by creating a slate of fake pro-Trump electors.

    The investigation, which was first reported by Politico, has been unfolding with little fanfare in recent weeks.

    According to three people with knowledge of the investigation who spoke to Politico, prosecutors have been interviewing witnesses in connection to the fake electors scheme, which in Nevada involved six Republicans.

     

    - Rolling Stone

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    Yet Another State Is Probing the Trump Fake Elector Scheme

    Nevada’s Attorney General Aaron Ford has opened an investigation into efforts by Republicans in the state to undermine Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election by creating a slate of fake pro-Trump electors.

    The investigation, which was first reported by Politico, has been unfolding with little fanfare in recent weeks.

    According to three people with knowledge of the investigation who spoke to Politico, prosecutors have been interviewing witnesses in connection to the fake electors scheme, which in Nevada involved six Republicans.

     

    - Rolling Stone

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Yet Another State Is Probing the Trump Fake Elector Scheme Nevada’s Attorney General Aaron Ford has opened an investigation into efforts by Republicans in the state to undermine Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election by creating a slate of fake pro-Trump electors. The investigation, which was first reported by Politico, has been unfolding with little fanfare in recent weeks. According to three people with knowledge of the investigation who spoke to Politico, prosecutors have been interviewing witnesses in connection to the fake electors scheme, which in Nevada involved six Republicans.   - Rolling Stone
    Throw every last one of them in jail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Yet Another State Is Probing the Trump Fake Elector Scheme Nevada’s Attorney General Aaron Ford has opened an investigation into efforts by Republicans in the state to undermine Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election by creating a slate of fake pro-Trump electors. The investigation, which was first reported by Politico, has been unfolding with little fanfare in recent weeks. According to three people with knowledge of the investigation who spoke to Politico, prosecutors have been interviewing witnesses in connection to the fake electors scheme, which in Nevada involved six Republicans.   - Rolling Stone
    Throw every last one of them in jail!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Yet Another State Is Probing the Trump Fake Elector Scheme Nevada’s Attorney General Aaron Ford has opened an investigation into efforts by Republicans in the state to undermine Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election by creating a slate of fake pro-Trump electors. The investigation, which was first reported by Politico, has been unfolding with little fanfare in recent weeks. According to three people with knowledge of the investigation who spoke to Politico, prosecutors have been interviewing witnesses in connection to the fake electors scheme, which in Nevada involved six Republicans.   - Rolling StoneThrow every last one of them in jail!
      where all criminals belong

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Yet Another State Is Probing the Trump Fake Elector Scheme Nevada’s Attorney General Aaron Ford has opened an investigation into efforts by Republicans in the state to undermine Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election by creating a slate of fake pro-Trump electors. The investigation, which was first reported by Politico, has been unfolding with little fanfare in recent weeks. According to three people with knowledge of the investigation who spoke to Politico, prosecutors have been interviewing witnesses in connection to the fake electors scheme, which in Nevada involved six Republicans.   - Rolling StoneThrow every last one of them in jail!
      where all criminals belong

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2023 - 6:35 PM ET #447

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias. Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.   No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course. New audio evidence from reporter Jonathon Karl helps to make the case against Trump's defense

    cant wait to see all the real evidence that buries him

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias. Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.   No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course. New audio evidence from reporter Jonathon Karl helps to make the case against Trump's defense

    cant wait to see all the real evidence that buries him

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias. Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.   No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course. New audio evidence from reporter Jonathon Karl helps to make the case against Trump's defense

    cant wait to see all the real evidence that buries him

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias. Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.   No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course. New audio evidence from reporter Jonathon Karl helps to make the case against Trump's defense

    cant wait to see all the real evidence that buries him

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias. Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.   No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course.

    New audio evidence from reporter Jonathon Karl helps to make the case against Trump's defense

    Going to make trump's defense very challenging an_beatup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias. Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.   No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course.

    New audio evidence from reporter Jonathon Karl helps to make the case against Trump's defense

    Going to make trump's defense very challenging an_beatup

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias. Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.   No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course.

    New audio evidence from reporter Jonathon Karl helps to make the case against Trump's defense

    Going to make trump's defense very challenging an_beatup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Without evidence, Trump claims civil or criminal charges are frivolous witch hunts made to damage him politically. But his lawyers have failed to dismiss cases because there are enough evidences for them to proceed in courts. So far, House committee hasn't done well in investigating weaponization of government against Trump. Also justice department inspector general found no evidence of political bias. Mounds of evidence against the fascist who would be king.   No valid evidence of weaponization or political bias, other than RW partisan speculation of course.

    New audio evidence from reporter Jonathon Karl helps to make the case against Trump's defense

    Going to make trump's defense very challenging an_beatup

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