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I am not a trump supporter nor am I Jewish and I choose not to get myself all worked up over something someone posted on the Internet.   
We have spent 8 years of people calling Obama hitler and bush before that.  In bigger picture of the context of 21st century politics calling someone hilter is common.  While I may not agree that Obama is exact same as hitler as we have heard for 8 years or that trump is the exact same as hitter,  I think that people make these comparisons and I don't get offfended to extreme levels because I have heard about Obama being hitler for 8 years and bush before him and have kind of tinned it out. 

If anything what is most offensive to me is the biased selective outrage and drama about the whole topic and then people wanting to be taken seriously.   

If anything the net effect of Obama being called hitler for 8 years, bush before him and trump presently is that is has improved hilter's image by saying Obama/bush/trump are exactly the same. 
 
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Sorry for the typo, 

I am not Jewish.  I am not a Hillary supporter either 
 
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DL, it is not my recollection that Obama, or any politician before him, has been compared to Hitler as often, or as aggressively as has been Trump.

To be honest, I heard Obama referred to with a plethora of negative terms, but don't ever recall 'Hitler' being one of them. 

You referenced "selective outrage" regarding this topic.
I haven't really seen much of that either.

I can only speak for myself that I pointed out it is in very bad taste. 
Personally, I'm not outraged by it. I am completely unfazed by it. But I will still post my opinion of it. 

If someone called Obama a n!$&*r in here, they would be dealt with.
Personally, I don't use that word, nor do I refer to anyone as Hitler.
One of those words seems more offensive than the other, but the word I am referencing is not the same word that the media has told us is now forbidden 
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Let start with this

https://theweek.com/articles/568774/why-republicans-are-obsessed-comparing-obama-hitler
 
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Posted: #105
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4992907

Here's another I just tuned it out I've heard it so much 


 
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Here is the tmz version of celebrity calling Obama hilter.  May you don't remember this because it was so much a part of popular culture to compare Obama with hilter that is all blends together 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/hank-williams-jr-compares-obama-to-hitler-in-uncomfortable-fox-and-friends-interview/

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

DL, it is not my recollection that Obama, or any politician before him, has been compared to Hitler as often, or as aggressively as has been Trump.

To be honest, I heard Obama referred to with a plethora of negative terms, but don't ever recall 'Hitler' being one of them. 

You referenced "selective outrage" regarding this topic.
I haven't really seen much of that either.

I can only speak for myself that I pointed out it is in very bad taste. 
Personally, I'm not outraged by it. I am completely unfazed by it. But I will still post my opinion of it. 

If someone called Obama a n!$&*r in here, they would be dealt with.
Personally, I don't use that word, nor do I refer to anyone as Hitler.
One of those words seems more offensive than the other, but the word I am referencing is not the same word that the media has told us is now forbidden 

Intellectually dishonest but I am not surprised. Obama has been compared to nearly every vile person in history (Mao, Hitler, Stalin, etc.). 

Using an adjective like the n-word as some kind of comparison to the connotation of a modern day person to a historical figure is apples and oranges. 

But then again, you must know this. 
 
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https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/01/republicans_comparing_barack_
Obama_to_hitler_my_favorite_examples_of_the.html

This gives a whole list of instances of Obama being compared to hilter.  It's been constant and so long that I've just accepted it as what people do now a days.  
Another Obama-hilter comparison 


 
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Sorry there are so many links and instances
 of Obama-hilter it is messing up the thread.  
Seriously Hugh,  
were you joking about not recalling?

I see you as credible but this leaves me smh

Try an image search of "Obama hilter",
The results are  aboslutely Ridiculous. 

I have to start trying to interpret if you are 
joking or serious when you make statements Now


 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


Intellectually dishonest but I am not surprised. Obama has been compared to nearly every vile person in history (Mao, Hitler, Stalin, etc.). 

Using an adjective like the n-word as some kind of comparison to the connotation of a modern day person to a historical figure is apples and oranges. 

But then again, you must know this. 

Intellectually dishonest? DJ, that would be intellectually inaccurate. 

I will paraphrase my post (obviously the original phrasing was misunderstood) ... I was succinct is saying that I had heard Obama called many negative terms/words. I was equally specific in saying "I DON'T RECALL" when writing about Obama being compared to Hitler.
I made reference to my PERSONAL RECOLLECTION twice.
DL has provided proof that my personal recollection was wrong, but that does not change the fact that it was my personal recollection. 
Understand?

I find it interesting that the vast majority of people in this forum seem to be incapable of reading a post from someone whom they have a preconceived notion of as having a different opinion than their own, and then not misunderstanding, or misrepresenting what that person wrote. As a result of this, any ongoing dialogue becomes impossible. 

I acknowledge that your analogy of apples to oranges is justified.
Poor example put forth on my part 
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

Sorry there are so many links and instances
 of Obama-hilter it is messing up the thread.  
Seriously Hugh,  
were you joking about not recalling?

I see you as credible but this leaves me smh

Try an image search of "Obama hilter",
The results are  aboslutely Ridiculous. 

I have to start trying to interpret if you are 
joking or serious when you make statements Now


I honestly was not aware it was so rampant.

DL, I do not misremember anything intentionally. I do my best to refrain from hyperbole and rhetoric. With the exception of Scalabrine, I rarely say things to incite, although I'm well aware that some of my opinions expressed in here seem to upset the left. That is unfortunate, as well as curious, as my opinions don't come from the aisle on the right. 

It's a sad reflection on us as a country when people are so quick to compare anyone to a man who is widely recognized as being one of the most evil people in history 

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Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


Intellectually dishonest? DJ, that would be intellectually inaccurate. 

I will paraphrase my post (obviously the original phrasing was misunderstood) ... I was succinct is saying that I had heard Obama called many negative terms/words. I was equally specific in saying "I DON'T RECALL" when writing about Obama being compared to Hitler.
I made reference to my PERSONAL RECOLLECTION twice.
DL has provided proof that my personal recollection was wrong, but that does not change the fact that it was my personal recollection. 
Understand?

I find it interesting that the vast majority of people in this forum seem to be incapable of reading a post from someone whom they have a preconceived notion of as having a different opinion than their own, and then not misunderstanding, or misrepresenting what that person wrote. As a result of this, any ongoing dialogue becomes impossible. 

I acknowledge that your analogy of apples to oranges is justified.
Poor example put forth on my part 

Stating that anything is based on personal recollection or personal interpretation is obviously understood as all argument, albeit based on facts, is one's own slanting of said facts. 

For example, when you call HRC a crook, you don't say "IMO" or "my personal feeling is" because it is understood that you think HRC is pure evil, that Trump is fantastic, that Dems are vile, and that Repubs walk on water. All of those are your own personal beliefs. We get it. 

It is somewhat ironic and continually intellectually dishonest that you make statements like "my opinions don't come from the aisle on the right.: 

That is a debate technique designed to make the reader view your perspective as more objective and reasoned. The problem is the proof isn't in the pudding. If it were, show me one post where you have advocated a position of HRC/Obama or disparaged one generally held to be in the rubric of 'Republicanism.' 

As for the comment above, the reality is I don't believe you. You are actually fairly well read and can be articulate so feign outrage about the comparison of Trump to Hitler, whilst simultaneously denying the same comparisons about others (mainly those on the the other side of your 'isle') is amusing at best. 

As for the suggestion that my response was a result of preconceived notion, you have no idea where I stand on the issue and what I have said in the past. As someone who has traveled the world, including Germany, former concentration camp sites, ghettos, and WWII monuments, I can say unequivocally that our worst leaders are nowhere near the persona that was Hitler. That includes Obama, Trump, Nixon, HRC, etc. 

Certain politicians may play into nationalism, race-baiting, stereotyping, etc. that permeated the rise of Nazism which was also altruistically nationalist in nature. But that is a distinction from a direct comparison. 
 
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Sorry Hugh I stil can't tell if you are joking or serious 

You say you didn't know it was that rampant

Which I don't know is a joke considering how often Obama
was called hilter by so many. 

But your original statement was that you don't ever recall
Obama being called that. I'm not sure if you're serious about
any of this at this point. 

When I listed a handful of numerous links and examples 
showing the 8 years of Obama being called hilter, did 
it jog your memory at all?  

I mean, do you watch Monday night football or keep up with
current events? 

Can you tell me any instances of Obama being called hilter?
Or was that list all news to you?

So let me get this straight, when it comes to hitler comparisons 
you get extremely outraged about trump, you remember bush,
But don't ever recall Obama being called Hitler. 

Are you sticking with that?  


 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


Stating that anything is based on personal recollection or personal interpretation is obviously understood as all argument, albeit based on facts, is one's own slanting of said facts. 

For example, when you call HRC a crook, you don't say "IMO" or "my personal feeling is" because it is understood that you think HRC is pure evil, that Trump is fantastic, that Dems are vile, and that Repubs walk on water. All of those are your own personal beliefs. We get it. 

It is somewhat ironic and continually intellectually dishonest that you make statements like "my opinions don't come from the aisle on the right.: 

That is a debate technique designed to make the reader view your perspective as more objective and reasoned. The problem is the proof isn't in the pudding. If it were, show me one post where you have advocated a position of HRC/Obama or disparaged one generally held to be in the rubric of 'Republicanism.' 

As for the comment above, the reality is I don't believe you. You are actually fairly well read and can be articulate so feign outrage about the comparison of Trump to Hitler, whilst simultaneously denying the same comparisons about others (mainly those on the the other side of your 'isle') is amusing at best. 

As for the suggestion that my response was a result of preconceived notion, you have no idea where I stand on the issue and what I have said in the past. As someone who has traveled the world, including Germany, former concentration camp sites, ghettos, and WWII monuments, I can say unequivocally that our worst leaders are nowhere near the persona that was Hitler. That includes Obama, Trump, Nixon, HRC, etc. 

Certain politicians may play into nationalism, race-baiting, stereotyping, etc. that permeated the rise of Nazism which was also altruistically nationalist in nature. But that is a distinction from a direct comparison. 

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ...

I am usually careful when writing, and try to note the difference between my opinions, facts, and what I believe to be facts.

I believe it to be a fact that HRC is a crook. (i won't bore you with details, but I can if you wish)
It is my opinion that she is a vile b!tch.
I believe it to be a fact that Trump is a narcissist and beyond obnoxious.
It is my opinion that he is not worthy of being POTUS.
It is a fact that I have NEVER suggested otherwise. 
It is a fact that my close friends, who are overwhelmingly conservatives, are convinced that I'm a liberal. 
It is my opinion that this election year is a low point in the political history of this country due to the two candidates being who they are.

I defended Obama in the past, particularly while he was running for his 1st term. I believe he was wide eyed and had good intentions. He was simply too naive to understand the complexities and evilness of the machine that is american politics.
I do not support Obama today. That is a direct result of his policies, and nothing more.

Today I vehemently denounce Obamacare. This has nothing to do with politics, it has everything to do with the fact Obamacare cost me an additional $18,000 last year alone. That amount is certainly going to go up. I fully expect to be paying $3,000 per month for health insurance within a year or two if Obamacare is not repealed. This year I am at $2,600 a month (this number includes my deductible which I met) 

Lastly, my comment of "preconceived notion" was not directed at anyones political beliefs or experiences, it was directed at ALL people with strong political opinions. When someone has them, they tend to make assumptions as to another persons written word, and oft times misinterpret what is being said. This goes both ways, and is the main reason why there is never any ongoing intelligent dialogue in here.

I have honestly tried to exchange comments with a good number of posters in here sans accusations and insults. Most tend to just ignore me. I'm not sure if I should be flattered or insulted 
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

So let me get this straight, when it comes to hitler comparisons 
you get extremely outraged about trump, you remember bush,
But don't ever recall Obama being called Hitler. 

Are you sticking with that?  

Yet another who appears to have difficulty comprehending my written words.

I responded to your examples of Obama being compared to Hitler by saying...
"I honestly was not aware it was so rampant".
I also wrote ... "DL has provided proof that my personal recollection was wrong"
Why do you require anything further from me on this subject?
Is that somehow not clear enough? 

Also, for the 2nd time, if you find "extreme outrage" with anything that I have written in here, you are simply reading into it what you want to see.
I am not outraged by anything on this site, with the possible exception of when they banned nudity in avatar's. That was complete bulls!t!!!

I also don't recall saying that I remember Bush being compared to Hitler. If you have proof that I did please provide it, otherwise kindly try to refrain from inaccuracies in your accusations.

To answer your closing question, I am sticking with everything that I write, and not your interpretation of it  

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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

 
I mean, do you watch Monday night football or keep up with
current events? 


DL, do yourself a favor ... don't be a wise azz and attempt to provoke me with thinly veiled insults. 

To be perfectly honest and clear so you do not misunderstand what I am writing ...
YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE 
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What are you taking about? 

Out of my league ? And all in caps?  Calm down.  

I thought your first response, while not 
answering all of the questions was at least civil.
I am not sure what you are trying to do here or 
what is going on with you now.  But it seems like 
an insult  that is neither veiled thinly nor thickly. 

My question about Monday night and current events 
was pertaining to your statement that you never recalled
Obama being called or compared to hilter.

The Hank Williams Jr. Incident was very public and 
I would think that most covers posters that bet and follow 
sports and current events associated with sports would 
have seen this talked about at some time. 

I even give you a polite out asking if the long list
Of examples of Obama being called hilter repeatedly 
over the last 8 years jogged your memory and perhaps 
you now do recall Obama being called hilter rather than 
grasping tightly to your initial statement that 
Never recalled Obama being called hilter or compared 
with hilter. 

If I am incorrect in my interpretation i am okay with that.
In fact look at my style of posting where I am asking you
questions about your own statements to clarify. 

Like even my statement about bush being called hitter.  
I am asking if that is your position.
I understand you did not say that, 
but I am trying to understand your position though civil dialog. 

But considering your original statement and I still can't 
tell if you are joking or still joking.  So I'm asking for 
clarification.  

Did my examples jog your memory? 
Or were they all news to you?

Honestly I haven't dealt with you much on this site 
so I don't know you and how you think.

But considering your above comment 
and what I am seeing on this thread, 
I am learning very quickly who you are, 
How you think and how you post. 

So yes I agree since I do not think, 
post or act like you do, you are correct. 

I am not in your "league"







 
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I routinely accuse others of misinterpreting my written words, and then I go and do it to you.

My apologies. 

I truly thought you were trying to play with me with the MNF reference.
The Hank Williams Jr connection was completely lost on me ... I'm not sure how, as it now seems obvious, but I can't un-write what I already wrote. Thus, I will simply offer an apology.
Sorry, DL 
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No worries Hugh, this type of communication over the Internet is common for misunderstanding and that is why you see my posting style is often to ask questions about statements someone has made for clarification.   

Also I think people have the right to change their mind and their view through civil dialog and no need to re-write or be held to anything posted in the past.  Through intelligent conversation. I have changed my mind on or thought differently about issues and events when exposed to the ideas and perspectives of others.  Both in real life and on this site. That is the beauty of a civil dialog the potential for growth and developed with an enriched perspective. 


 
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In today's PC climate...  why is it not racist to call someone with German ancestry “Hitler” ?

Trump has German ancestry.

Calling him Hitler is a form of "hate speech".....

Last year Obama’s Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, announced that the Department of Justice will prosecute and jail Americans that use “hate speech” against Muslims.

Why shouldn't Trump be afforded the same protection under the law as Muslims?  To be fair the U.S.AG needs to start prosecuting Americans that use racist "hate speech" against Donald Trump,, by using the Hitler comparison....

 
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being an idiot and being a leader promoting mass murder and world takeover are very different things...
dont agree he can be compared to hitler.
do think he would make a god awful president
 
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I had to think of how a us President become a dictator.
One scenario however implausible is in fact possible. It would take a huge play.
Create and promote a urban centers nation wide riot. Suspend all civil and constitutional liberties in a national invokation of Marshall law deploy regular miltary in a illegal immigrant action program and neutral political opposition. Creating security initiatives.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

You know you've made it when you are compared to hitler 



 
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Trump has received a de facto endorsement from the official newspaper of the Ku Klux Klan:

“Among the small number of American newspapers that have embraced Donald Trump’s campaign, there is one, in particular, that stands out. It is called the Crusader — and it is the official newspaper of the Ku Klux Klan,” the Washington Post reports.

“Under the banner ‘Make America Great Again,’ the paper’s current issue devoted its entire front page to a lengthy defense of Trump’s message — an embrace some have labeled a de facto endorsement.”

https://politicalwire.com/2016/11/01/trump-gets-endorsement-group-newspaper/#disqus_thread

They must be been enthralled by all of that (to them) wonderful hatemongering.

 
 
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This one any clearer Gentlemen......
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