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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 3:45 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Wall, to change the subject for a minute, have you seen this.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-trump-billboard-sparks-outrage_us_58ce7dfde4b0ec9d29dcb8c6?

    Yikes!

    Grand Ave is a pretty trashy area...cant say that shocks me too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Wall, to change the subject for a minute, have you seen this.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-trump-billboard-sparks-outrage_us_58ce7dfde4b0ec9d29dcb8c6?

    Yikes!

    Grand Ave is a pretty trashy area...cant say that shocks me too much.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 4:04 PM ET #27

    seriously do we have to inform tenure government workers union due paying members the are non essential again... it does very little for moral at the bureaucrat paper pusher level......
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    seriously do we have to inform tenure government workers union due paying members the are non essential again... it does very little for moral at the bureaucrat paper pusher level......
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 5:56 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Again. Entitlement{s} is a four letter word to the people who make laws the citizens are suppose to follow. Social security is the number 1 entitlement that should be means tested  There is no courage from either side on what will become a major issue in the not to distant future. The normalcy bias has put the heads of US citizens in the sand. The bias is. Everything will be ok. The US government will take care of you regardless of the situation.
    SS is an entitlement? Why is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Again. Entitlement{s} is a four letter word to the people who make laws the citizens are suppose to follow. Social security is the number 1 entitlement that should be means tested  There is no courage from either side on what will become a major issue in the not to distant future. The normalcy bias has put the heads of US citizens in the sand. The bias is. Everything will be ok. The US government will take care of you regardless of the situation.
    SS is an entitlement? Why is it?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 6:07 PM ET #29

    because after robbing social security surplus fund and subsequently all surplusses in the fund rendering it 0 the entire system is now the burden of current payers.

    hence pension benefit envisioned in 1933
    is now termed in linguistics an unsustainable entitlement in 2017....
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    because after robbing social security surplus fund and subsequently all surplusses in the fund rendering it 0 the entire system is now the burden of current payers.

    hence pension benefit envisioned in 1933
    is now termed in linguistics an unsustainable entitlement in 2017....
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 6:28 PM ET #30

    darkhorse, The Lefties on this board will tell you everything will be ok. We (The Left} will not let you down.Nothing as outlandish as 1929 will ever happen again. We will have the Fed just print more money. God bless the Fed and Janet Yellen.
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    darkhorse, The Lefties on this board will tell you everything will be ok. We (The Left} will not let you down.Nothing as outlandish as 1929 will ever happen again. We will have the Fed just print more money. God bless the Fed and Janet Yellen.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 8:10 PM ET #31

    lets begin this with social security discussion when it was imposed,

    Democrats under the square deal Roosevelt made social security part of the rebuilding plank of america legalize alchohol put america back to work invest in hydro electrical projects and social justice platforms of fair wage and fair treatment for workers and a safety net to allow all to retire from labor due to age or disability.

    republicans had a coniption against these socialistic measures burdening companies from hiring furthur in such conditions of the great depression offered.

    so to pay for the vast expanse in government spending Roosevelt made private owner ship of gold beyond a modest measure against the law stripped gold from the standard of 20 dolllar worth and replaced it with silver hence dramatically allow greater lee way of the dollars printed to a silver certificate.
    republican established gop monsters do not change reqally the same arguement of a unsustainable retirement burden on all tax payers and companies would bank rupt america and with the help of Bill Clintons aministration they can sustain a true arguement that the system with the changes will not last 100 years.....
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    lets begin this with social security discussion when it was imposed,

    Democrats under the square deal Roosevelt made social security part of the rebuilding plank of america legalize alchohol put america back to work invest in hydro electrical projects and social justice platforms of fair wage and fair treatment for workers and a safety net to allow all to retire from labor due to age or disability.

    republicans had a coniption against these socialistic measures burdening companies from hiring furthur in such conditions of the great depression offered.

    so to pay for the vast expanse in government spending Roosevelt made private owner ship of gold beyond a modest measure against the law stripped gold from the standard of 20 dolllar worth and replaced it with silver hence dramatically allow greater lee way of the dollars printed to a silver certificate.
    republican established gop monsters do not change reqally the same arguement of a unsustainable retirement burden on all tax payers and companies would bank rupt america and with the help of Bill Clintons aministration they can sustain a true arguement that the system with the changes will not last 100 years.....
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 8:11 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    darkhorse, The Lefties on this board will tell you everything will be ok. We (The Left} will not let you down.Nothing as outlandish as 1929 will ever happen again. We will have the Fed just print more money. God bless the Fed and Janet Yellen.

    Ok so please back up this BS with actual facts, references and quotes...that or slime away like you always do.

    What a stupid reply to make, I dont know of ANY FED apologists on this board...but please show me a LEFTIE who said 1929 wont happen again, God bless the FED and all this horsesh!t you just referenced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    darkhorse, The Lefties on this board will tell you everything will be ok. We (The Left} will not let you down.Nothing as outlandish as 1929 will ever happen again. We will have the Fed just print more money. God bless the Fed and Janet Yellen.

    Ok so please back up this BS with actual facts, references and quotes...that or slime away like you always do.

    What a stupid reply to make, I dont know of ANY FED apologists on this board...but please show me a LEFTIE who said 1929 wont happen again, God bless the FED and all this horsesh!t you just referenced.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 8:14 PM ET #33

    hence an arguement for reform would pose to the tax payers to social security payers in fica w-2 payroll sense, would they agree to pay 9 % of their income to a system if the us government would gaurantee that they when reaching retirement age could recieve medicare and social security if things did not work out quite as planned in this game of life we are into these days....
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    hence an arguement for reform would pose to the tax payers to social security payers in fica w-2 payroll sense, would they agree to pay 9 % of their income to a system if the us government would gaurantee that they when reaching retirement age could recieve medicare and social security if things did not work out quite as planned in this game of life we are into these days....
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 8:16 PM ET #34

    hence 18 % of a persons payroll with company matching contribution could go to a government guaranteed retirement savings plan... would that be that hard and keep their norquist- grover, pledge....
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    hence 18 % of a persons payroll with company matching contribution could go to a government guaranteed retirement savings plan... would that be that hard and keep their norquist- grover, pledge....
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 8:22 PM ET #35

    hence the avg wage earner of 29, 5 600 a week before taxes would all contribute 18 % or 1/6th of earnings in gross payroll sense on a quarterly basis to the feds and then the feds could state with all honesty that without vast population or age demographic concerns the system could remain solvent indefinately.
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    hence the avg wage earner of 29, 5 600 a week before taxes would all contribute 18 % or 1/6th of earnings in gross payroll sense on a quarterly basis to the feds and then the feds could state with all honesty that without vast population or age demographic concerns the system could remain solvent indefinately.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 8:28 PM ET #36

    if we added 2% to this already court approved tax the government could effectively make all souls in america insured for periodic clinic visits and catastrophic care to extend to all usa citizens across this country as a basic health coverage ( if you got hit by a mack truck your coverered plan) through an expansion of the current of medicare medicaid and uninsured could be given an effect that all through the exising w-2 payroll process all could be extended a form of simple basic coverage,

    allowing individuals and buisnnesses to offer better coverage plans to attract better caliber of labor proffessionals.
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    if we added 2% to this already court approved tax the government could effectively make all souls in america insured for periodic clinic visits and catastrophic care to extend to all usa citizens across this country as a basic health coverage ( if you got hit by a mack truck your coverered plan) through an expansion of the current of medicare medicaid and uninsured could be given an effect that all through the exising w-2 payroll process all could be extended a form of simple basic coverage,

    allowing individuals and buisnnesses to offer better coverage plans to attract better caliber of labor proffessionals.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 8:34 PM ET #37

    by telling Paul Ryan that he should increase fica payroll to 10% set a fixed interest rate on our current debt, and keep american care act social secutity medicare and medicaid solvent by raising the payroll tax to 10 % worker company matching contributions will go over like a full dump in the holy water at the nativity in bethleham.... 

    paul rather focus on population control cbo numbers anyway.
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    by telling Paul Ryan that he should increase fica payroll to 10% set a fixed interest rate on our current debt, and keep american care act social secutity medicare and medicaid solvent by raising the payroll tax to 10 % worker company matching contributions will go over like a full dump in the holy water at the nativity in bethleham.... 

    paul rather focus on population control cbo numbers anyway.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 8:35 PM ET #38

    wall, Way to sensitive tonight. My only point for the evening is normalcy bias. Everything is ok and if it isn't we will fix it for you. Not much more to it than that along with a little sarcasm to finish the weekend off. Google Project Dragnet. It could be an explosive Monday news wise. I don't have the time tonight to put this project on paper.
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    wall, Way to sensitive tonight. My only point for the evening is normalcy bias. Everything is ok and if it isn't we will fix it for you. Not much more to it than that along with a little sarcasm to finish the weekend off. Google Project Dragnet. It could be an explosive Monday news wise. I don't have the time tonight to put this project on paper.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2017 - 11:47 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    wall, Way to sensitive tonight. My only point for the evening is normalcy bias. Everything is ok and if it isn't we will fix it for you. Not much more to it than that along with a little sarcasm to finish the weekend off. Google Project Dragnet. It could be an explosive Monday news wise. I don't have the time tonight to put this project on paper.
     
    Well how about you quit with the garage combative replies then...if you make a claim like this I am going to expect you back it up.

    You are one of the worst party attackers in this forum, it is useless and a waste of time as it accomplishes nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    wall, Way to sensitive tonight. My only point for the evening is normalcy bias. Everything is ok and if it isn't we will fix it for you. Not much more to it than that along with a little sarcasm to finish the weekend off. Google Project Dragnet. It could be an explosive Monday news wise. I don't have the time tonight to put this project on paper.
     
    Well how about you quit with the garage combative replies then...if you make a claim like this I am going to expect you back it up.

    You are one of the worst party attackers in this forum, it is useless and a waste of time as it accomplishes nothing.


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