As far as.insulin Really government should dictate the price of a privately made and Patten drug what are you now a socialist...? Communit and socialistic governements dictate price of goods and service . I felt you were a capitalist?
No, literally every country besides the US does this. That's why they don't get screwed on drug prices like the US. Free market or not, at a certain point you have to stand up for your citizens and simply say, "No, you can't price gouge sick and dying Americans." Canada does it. That is the reason drugs are a lot cheaper. It has nothing to do with supply and demand.
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
As far as.insulin Really government should dictate the price of a privately made and Patten drug what are you now a socialist...? Communit and socialistic governements dictate price of goods and service . I felt you were a capitalist?
No, literally every country besides the US does this. That's why they don't get screwed on drug prices like the US. Free market or not, at a certain point you have to stand up for your citizens and simply say, "No, you can't price gouge sick and dying Americans." Canada does it. That is the reason drugs are a lot cheaper. It has nothing to do with supply and demand.
No supply and demand is not needed when the government subsidise the endeavor. See you still don't understand ulterial motive.
You can't see a long term out comes do to policy change.
Let's follow the rabbit on the insulin problem.
If you recieve Medicare insulin is covered.
If you remive Medicaid state aid insulin is covered.
If you have quality health insurance with a drug for needed medicine group plan anthem.
Insulin is covered.
If you have none of the above you will petition for an expansion in health care industry and the democrats can then when demand warrants expand Medicare for.all to include insulin and negotiate a bulk price with pharmacy....
But cart before your ad stable.hay pasture fence.
What you have is a heavy cart before other things might be needed. '<×
No supply and demand is not needed when the government subsidise the endeavor. See you still don't understand ulterial motive.
You can't see a long term out comes do to policy change.
Let's follow the rabbit on the insulin problem.
If you recieve Medicare insulin is covered.
If you remive Medicaid state aid insulin is covered.
If you have quality health insurance with a drug for needed medicine group plan anthem.
Insulin is covered.
If you have none of the above you will petition for an expansion in health care industry and the democrats can then when demand warrants expand Medicare for.all to include insulin and negotiate a bulk price with pharmacy....
But cart before your ad stable.hay pasture fence.
What you have is a heavy cart before other things might be needed. '<×
As far as.insulin Really government should dictate the price of a privately made and Patten drug what are you now a socialist...? Communit and socialistic governements dictate price of goods and service . I felt you were a capitalist?
I am a capitalist but not when it comes to the basic needs of the American people. I support welfare programs, health care programs, and section 8 housing programs. I fully understand that opportunity is not afforded to all equally and support socialism of basic needs.
THAT is the AMERICAN way and is the reason the USA became the melting pot decades ago.
America has now lost its way. Congress members are among the richest on the planet as their personal GREED has replaced all concerns for WE THE PEOPLE. This is the consequence of not having term limits.
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
As far as.insulin Really government should dictate the price of a privately made and Patten drug what are you now a socialist...? Communit and socialistic governements dictate price of goods and service . I felt you were a capitalist?
I am a capitalist but not when it comes to the basic needs of the American people. I support welfare programs, health care programs, and section 8 housing programs. I fully understand that opportunity is not afforded to all equally and support socialism of basic needs.
THAT is the AMERICAN way and is the reason the USA became the melting pot decades ago.
America has now lost its way. Congress members are among the richest on the planet as their personal GREED has replaced all concerns for WE THE PEOPLE. This is the consequence of not having term limits.
“I don’t know how you people sleep at night,” Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) told a panel of insulin manufacturers and drug industry intermediaries assembled for a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing on insulin prices. “I just want you to know your days are numbered.”
While the executives fumbled to explain themselves over the course of two days of questioning, one “solution” to the insulin access crisis resurfaced on social media: Patients should just buy cheap insulin at Walmart.
For context, the cost of the four most popular insulins has tripled over the past decade, forcing many of the millions of Americans with Type 1 or Type 2 diabetes who rely on the drug to skimp on or skip doses.
So now this is the Biden issue.... no this has been America's issue. But republicans can not put votes up to a up or down its. They block legislation by not allow votes for legislation.
Wal-Mart 25.00 insulin.article 2019.
“I don’t know how you people sleep at night,” Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) told a panel of insulin manufacturers and drug industry intermediaries assembled for a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing on insulin prices. “I just want you to know your days are numbered.”
While the executives fumbled to explain themselves over the course of two days of questioning, one “solution” to the insulin access crisis resurfaced on social media: Patients should just buy cheap insulin at Walmart.
For context, the cost of the four most popular insulins has tripled over the past decade, forcing many of the millions of Americans with Type 1 or Type 2 diabetes who rely on the drug to skimp on or skip doses.
So now this is the Biden issue.... no this has been America's issue. But republicans can not put votes up to a up or down its. They block legislation by not allow votes for legislation.
Trump made an executive decision that Biden rescinded to provoke congress by their constituents make legislation that the supreme court can find constitutional....
3 branches of government a Democrat for president house and Senate majorities and a conservative court I stated I will live with this .
Trump made an executive decision that Biden rescinded to provoke congress by their constituents make legislation that the supreme court can find constitutional....
3 branches of government a Democrat for president house and Senate majorities and a conservative court I stated I will live with this .
Don't believe anything the Libtard Three Stooges say about me. They are of shallow mind with poor intentions.
Government has a job to do but is failing miserably. Just look at the homeless tent cities popping up all over the USA.
It is up to all of us to do what is right. At least once a week I deliver groceries to the homeless on the corner a mile from where I live. I try to help and do what I can. It makes me feel good. Our government does not care about the people at all and that has never been more evident than over the past 3 months. Thus, the people must care about the people.
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
Those can seem to some very liberal views game
Don't believe anything the Libtard Three Stooges say about me. They are of shallow mind with poor intentions.
Government has a job to do but is failing miserably. Just look at the homeless tent cities popping up all over the USA.
It is up to all of us to do what is right. At least once a week I deliver groceries to the homeless on the corner a mile from where I live. I try to help and do what I can. It makes me feel good. Our government does not care about the people at all and that has never been more evident than over the past 3 months. Thus, the people must care about the people.
Quote Originally Posted by djbrow: I look forward to seeing your citations supporting the above assertions This is public information and is readily available. Go find it yourself. With the job you currently have, I would think you have plenty of time.
Thank you
I understand that copying and pasting is a difficult task for you and your credibility is pretty low on your assertions (like your thread about the Trump appointee yesterday)
Quote Originally Posted by djbrow: I look forward to seeing your citations supporting the above assertions This is public information and is readily available. Go find it yourself. With the job you currently have, I would think you have plenty of time.
Thank you
I understand that copying and pasting is a difficult task for you and your credibility is pretty low on your assertions (like your thread about the Trump appointee yesterday)
@gambleholic63 Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Quote Originally Posted by djbrow: I look forward to seeing your citations supporting the above assertions This is public information and is readily available. Go find it yourself. With the job you currently have, I would think you have plenty of time. Thank you I understand that copying and pasting is a difficult task for you and your credibility is pretty low on your assertions (like you thread about the Trump appointee yesterday) Here’s some help for you https://www.howtogeek.com/671298/how-to-copy-cut-and-paste-on-a-windows-pc/amp/ https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-copy-and-paste-text-android https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-copy-and-paste-on-ipad-iphone Let me know if these help.
I have no idea what you are trying to say but it is apparent that you have reached your personal pinnacle in life.
God bless.
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
@gambleholic63 Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Quote Originally Posted by djbrow: I look forward to seeing your citations supporting the above assertions This is public information and is readily available. Go find it yourself. With the job you currently have, I would think you have plenty of time. Thank you I understand that copying and pasting is a difficult task for you and your credibility is pretty low on your assertions (like you thread about the Trump appointee yesterday) Here’s some help for you https://www.howtogeek.com/671298/how-to-copy-cut-and-paste-on-a-windows-pc/amp/ https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-copy-and-paste-text-android https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-copy-and-paste-on-ipad-iphone Let me know if these help.
I have no idea what you are trying to say but it is apparent that you have reached your personal pinnacle in life.
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The good doctor Ms Jill Biden brought a basket of chocolate chip cookies baked in the White House to the troops. The basket looked like it was big enough for 17 cookies. Before you ask. Milk and hot chocolate was not delivered! The link to the well written article follows. Damage Control: In Shameless Photo Op, Jill Biden Gives Cookies to National Guard Troops After Biden Admin Banishes Them to Cold Garage (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com) @Sundance: This is a pathetic attempt at damage control but the damage is done. Our National Guard is now at home with President Trump getting hot food, warm beds and an awesome lounge where none of the TV's get tuned into CNN. Incidentally, the 5000 troops are not splitting a basket of cookies from Joke Biden. They are getting as much hot food as they desire with cookies and cake for dessert! I can't imagine that any of the liberals are proud of Biden sending the troops to sleep out in the cold, but I am not surprised that they would be. God will win. The devil will lose and evil will be defeated.
Great stuff from President Trump! Mr Biden can not deliver the goods like 45! The troops are on vacation at the Trump hotel!
Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The good doctor Ms Jill Biden brought a basket of chocolate chip cookies baked in the White House to the troops. The basket looked like it was big enough for 17 cookies. Before you ask. Milk and hot chocolate was not delivered! The link to the well written article follows. Damage Control: In Shameless Photo Op, Jill Biden Gives Cookies to National Guard Troops After Biden Admin Banishes Them to Cold Garage (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com) @Sundance: This is a pathetic attempt at damage control but the damage is done. Our National Guard is now at home with President Trump getting hot food, warm beds and an awesome lounge where none of the TV's get tuned into CNN. Incidentally, the 5000 troops are not splitting a basket of cookies from Joke Biden. They are getting as much hot food as they desire with cookies and cake for dessert! I can't imagine that any of the liberals are proud of Biden sending the troops to sleep out in the cold, but I am not surprised that they would be. God will win. The devil will lose and evil will be defeated.
Great stuff from President Trump! Mr Biden can not deliver the goods like 45! The troops are on vacation at the Trump hotel!
Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The good doctor Ms Jill Biden brought a basket of chocolate chip cookies baked in the White House to the troops. The basket looked like it was big enough for 17 cookies. Before you ask. Milk and hot chocolate was not delivered! The link to the well written article follows. Damage Control: In Shameless Photo Op, Jill Biden Gives Cookies to National Guard Troops After Biden Admin Banishes Them to Cold Garage (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com) @Sundance: This is a pathetic attempt at damage control but the damage is done. Our National Guard is now at home with President Trump getting hot food, warm beds and an awesome lounge where none of the TV's get tuned into CNN. Incidentally, the 5000 troops are not splitting a basket of cookies from Joke Biden. They are getting as much hot food as they desire with cookies and cake for dessert! I can't imagine that any of the liberals are proud of Biden sending the troops to sleep out in the cold, but I am not surprised that they would be. God will win. The devil will lose and evil will be defeated. Great stuff from President Trump! Mr Biden can not deliver the goods like 45! The troops are on vacation at the Trump hotel!
I agree Sundance! Trump shows how he cares through his actions. Some people will only hate and that's just a sad reality. These people from the left supporting Biden and hating Trump on here are lost in their own superiority delusions while coming across as losers in life both financially and spiritually. If they were not so consistently hateful with their words, I would feel sorry for them.
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The good doctor Ms Jill Biden brought a basket of chocolate chip cookies baked in the White House to the troops. The basket looked like it was big enough for 17 cookies. Before you ask. Milk and hot chocolate was not delivered! The link to the well written article follows. Damage Control: In Shameless Photo Op, Jill Biden Gives Cookies to National Guard Troops After Biden Admin Banishes Them to Cold Garage (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com) @Sundance: This is a pathetic attempt at damage control but the damage is done. Our National Guard is now at home with President Trump getting hot food, warm beds and an awesome lounge where none of the TV's get tuned into CNN. Incidentally, the 5000 troops are not splitting a basket of cookies from Joke Biden. They are getting as much hot food as they desire with cookies and cake for dessert! I can't imagine that any of the liberals are proud of Biden sending the troops to sleep out in the cold, but I am not surprised that they would be. God will win. The devil will lose and evil will be defeated. Great stuff from President Trump! Mr Biden can not deliver the goods like 45! The troops are on vacation at the Trump hotel!
I agree Sundance! Trump shows how he cares through his actions. Some people will only hate and that's just a sad reality. These people from the left supporting Biden and hating Trump on here are lost in their own superiority delusions while coming across as losers in life both financially and spiritually. If they were not so consistently hateful with their words, I would feel sorry for them.
Remember the four rules 1 never trust the government. Ever. 2 always back your buddy if you are you have their 6 3 always without exception back your spouse in public. 4 if your ever in a moment of doubt refer to rule 1,2,3 still unclear then it really not that important.
Holy shit. Something we absolutely agree on
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
Remember the four rules 1 never trust the government. Ever. 2 always back your buddy if you are you have their 6 3 always without exception back your spouse in public. 4 if your ever in a moment of doubt refer to rule 1,2,3 still unclear then it really not that important.
What was the price of insulin when Trump got into office, and what was it when he left?
For all the finger pointing and gum flapping of the disaster just finished, how did drug pricing fare with Trump in office? Anyone?
When your guy who just left was both a fat blabber mouth, a liar and a total fool in said subject, it is probably best to snake out of the topic until when your guy IS in office and does a great job.
Like many things, in the category of drug pricing Trump was a lying blabbering disaster.
Wallstreetcappers
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
What was the price of insulin when Trump got into office, and what was it when he left?
For all the finger pointing and gum flapping of the disaster just finished, how did drug pricing fare with Trump in office? Anyone?
When your guy who just left was both a fat blabber mouth, a liar and a total fool in said subject, it is probably best to snake out of the topic until when your guy IS in office and does a great job.
Like many things, in the category of drug pricing Trump was a lying blabbering disaster.
So Fubar. Since your buddy has gone silent, what specific question do you have on this subject. I promise I will reply.
At @Gameholic djbrow is an intellectual.
He and big money can debate but DJ usually always has the upper hand . raiders22 and so do not contest. Sundance me you game.. Kelly kind of deal. Within sometimes another's thought .
DJ was point.g out the hyper pen the rest of us has utilized ma'am
Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:
So Fubar. Since your buddy has gone silent, what specific question do you have on this subject. I promise I will reply.
At @Gameholic djbrow is an intellectual.
He and big money can debate but DJ usually always has the upper hand . raiders22 and so do not contest. Sundance me you game.. Kelly kind of deal. Within sometimes another's thought .
DJ was point.g out the hyper pen the rest of us has utilized ma'am
In the airport trying to get back in USA before testing mandate becomes effective Tuesday.
So, just wanted to address this issue a tad.
No doubt it can be looked at by many different metrics.But the media will always choose one that makes Trump look bad.Trump will always use one that makes him look good.But if you use the same metrics the media has used for years and now doesn’t like so much— it does show a slowing of the increase under Trump.
For example:
Raw Consumer Price Index data from U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics for Prescription drugs:
1996 - 242
2000 - 285
2004 - 337
2008 - 378
2012 - 440
2016 - 502
2020 - 532
There are some issues with this metric.But that doesn’t mean you dismiss it out of hand since it makes Trump look good — or that the policies he got passed/implemented seem more effective than previous administrations.
In the airport trying to get back in USA before testing mandate becomes effective Tuesday.
So, just wanted to address this issue a tad.
No doubt it can be looked at by many different metrics.But the media will always choose one that makes Trump look bad.Trump will always use one that makes him look good.But if you use the same metrics the media has used for years and now doesn’t like so much— it does show a slowing of the increase under Trump.
For example:
Raw Consumer Price Index data from U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics for Prescription drugs:
1996 - 242
2000 - 285
2004 - 337
2008 - 378
2012 - 440
2016 - 502
2020 - 532
There are some issues with this metric.But that doesn’t mean you dismiss it out of hand since it makes Trump look good — or that the policies he got passed/implemented seem more effective than previous administrations.
Using increase, alone is not the correct way to look at it.Inflation is always there on nearly all products and services.
Simply to say it is bad because it was higher than years ago is not looking at the larger picture.The rate of increase was lower in recent years.
Since 1991, growth in insulin prices has been accelerating, with a reprieve only in recent years. The list price of insulin per milliliter in the United States increased, on average, 2.9 percent annually from 1991-2001, 9.5 percent per year from 2002 and 2012, 20.7 percent annually between 2012 and 2016, and 1.5 percent per year from 2016-2018.[8] .[9]
“CEA report found that President Trump’s actions have reduced prescription drug prices. The CEA detailed that, under former President Barack Obama, drug prices continued to increase and only started to fall after Trump took the oath of office.
The CEA wrote that prescription drug prices fell more than 11 percent and well below general inflation.
“In 2018, prescription drug prices even declined in nominal terms over the calendar year for the first time since 1972,”
The CEA attributed much of this to the president’s signing of the 2017 Drug Competition Action Plan and the 2018 Strategic Policy Roadmap. The CEA said the reforms enhance “choice and price competition in the biopharmaceutical markets.”
Using increase, alone is not the correct way to look at it.Inflation is always there on nearly all products and services.
Simply to say it is bad because it was higher than years ago is not looking at the larger picture.The rate of increase was lower in recent years.
Since 1991, growth in insulin prices has been accelerating, with a reprieve only in recent years. The list price of insulin per milliliter in the United States increased, on average, 2.9 percent annually from 1991-2001, 9.5 percent per year from 2002 and 2012, 20.7 percent annually between 2012 and 2016, and 1.5 percent per year from 2016-2018.[8] .[9]
“CEA report found that President Trump’s actions have reduced prescription drug prices. The CEA detailed that, under former President Barack Obama, drug prices continued to increase and only started to fall after Trump took the oath of office.
The CEA wrote that prescription drug prices fell more than 11 percent and well below general inflation.
“In 2018, prescription drug prices even declined in nominal terms over the calendar year for the first time since 1972,”
The CEA attributed much of this to the president’s signing of the 2017 Drug Competition Action Plan and the 2018 Strategic Policy Roadmap. The CEA said the reforms enhance “choice and price competition in the biopharmaceutical markets.”
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