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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2019 - 2:39 PM ET #1

    So it is interesting that there has not been a peep about the situation developing and that has been in progress on this subject for the last few months. I have to think if this happened with a different party in office it would enrage the blind followers and we would have ten threads about how horrible it is and what a poor leader blah blah blah.

    To the topic, I find this lie fest saga to be very interesting. We get outright lies about the negotiations and progress all the time and yet here we are. China playing hardball and Trump standing with his golf cart not accustomed to someone actually standing up to him and even playing harder than he is. I think Trump greatly underestimates the lengths to which China will go ONLY based on the way Trump is treating China and the lack of respect he is showing and games he is playing.

    It shows that Trump is out of his element and league dealing with these types of situations. China has and can go much further to make their point than the US can with regards to not folding and not caving if they feel it necessary. This drop really is nothing still, the market hasnt even taken back 1/4th of what it padded in anticipation of a resolution and they have greatly underestimated the potential this has to do harm to our economy.

    China letting their currency fall as they did this weekend is a massive slap in the face to Trump and shows they are playing the long game here where Trump rarely does, he likes to intimidate, offend and bully his way without regard to any consequence for his actions and classlessness. Lets see who folds first or who steps forward first, I have to think China is fed up with the insults and intimidation approach this administration uses and any resolution will not be quick.

    If the Yuan keeps ticking further above 7, the further it goes will show their resolve and what they want to accomplish since they are supporting it and manipulating it and can do so quickly and with great impact.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    So it is interesting that there has not been a peep about the situation developing and that has been in progress on this subject for the last few months. I have to think if this happened with a different party in office it would enrage the blind followers and we would have ten threads about how horrible it is and what a poor leader blah blah blah.

    To the topic, I find this lie fest saga to be very interesting. We get outright lies about the negotiations and progress all the time and yet here we are. China playing hardball and Trump standing with his golf cart not accustomed to someone actually standing up to him and even playing harder than he is. I think Trump greatly underestimates the lengths to which China will go ONLY based on the way Trump is treating China and the lack of respect he is showing and games he is playing.

    It shows that Trump is out of his element and league dealing with these types of situations. China has and can go much further to make their point than the US can with regards to not folding and not caving if they feel it necessary. This drop really is nothing still, the market hasnt even taken back 1/4th of what it padded in anticipation of a resolution and they have greatly underestimated the potential this has to do harm to our economy.

    China letting their currency fall as they did this weekend is a massive slap in the face to Trump and shows they are playing the long game here where Trump rarely does, he likes to intimidate, offend and bully his way without regard to any consequence for his actions and classlessness. Lets see who folds first or who steps forward first, I have to think China is fed up with the insults and intimidation approach this administration uses and any resolution will not be quick.

    If the Yuan keeps ticking further above 7, the further it goes will show their resolve and what they want to accomplish since they are supporting it and manipulating it and can do so quickly and with great impact.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2019 - 4:04 PM ET #2

    China never blinked.

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    China never blinked.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2019 - 10:42 PM ET #3

    The US Treasury Dept formally labeled China a “currency manipulator,”...............China's actions are in violation of China’s G20 commitments to refrain from competitive devaluation. 

    The Chinese authorities have acknowledged that they have ample control over the reminbi exchange rate..

    The US Treasury places significant importance on China adhering to its G-20 commitments to refrain from engaging in competitive devaluation and to not target China’s exchange rate for competitive purposes..
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    The US Treasury Dept formally labeled China a “currency manipulator,”...............China's actions are in violation of China’s G20 commitments to refrain from competitive devaluation. 

    The Chinese authorities have acknowledged that they have ample control over the reminbi exchange rate..

    The US Treasury places significant importance on China adhering to its G-20 commitments to refrain from engaging in competitive devaluation and to not target China’s exchange rate for competitive purposes..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2019 - 10:58 AM ET #4

    Every country is a currency manipulator, the US is, Europe is, for sure Japan is. So sour grapes on the wall street billionaire and Trump because China did/does what we have done for decades. Our FED manipulates the USD all the time, all countries do this to a large degree and I find humor in the pouting from this administration.
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    Every country is a currency manipulator, the US is, Europe is, for sure Japan is. So sour grapes on the wall street billionaire and Trump because China did/does what we have done for decades. Our FED manipulates the USD all the time, all countries do this to a large degree and I find humor in the pouting from this administration.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2019 - 11:53 PM ET #5

    Ironically Wall...this thread only reinforces weak-kneed GOP Congressmen....lay down and get rolled by the CHI-COM.....and all the MSM 'FAKE NEWS" TALKING POINTS..


    Sorry..DJT is in the bizness of winning...I know your "ilk" can't stand it...LET'S  just wait and see how ALL this plays out.....

    WHAT'S obvious TO ALL IS THE vastly GREATLY DIFFERENCE between a "community organizer" and a PRIVATE Sector "Successful" administrator Leading the Greatest Country created in Mankind's History leading a "winnable" fight vs INTL currency Manipulators....



    Btw...GOOGLE is going to pay dearly....Billy Barr ain't going to let their TOTAL manipulation and Chinese Influence go unfettered..THANK GOD....


    HONG KONG watch out....I have a STRONG feeling this ain't gonna end pretty..


     Gotta have faith POTUS has a clue....BOH..




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    Ironically Wall...this thread only reinforces weak-kneed GOP Congressmen....lay down and get rolled by the CHI-COM.....and all the MSM 'FAKE NEWS" TALKING POINTS..


    Sorry..DJT is in the bizness of winning...I know your "ilk" can't stand it...LET'S  just wait and see how ALL this plays out.....

    WHAT'S obvious TO ALL IS THE vastly GREATLY DIFFERENCE between a "community organizer" and a PRIVATE Sector "Successful" administrator Leading the Greatest Country created in Mankind's History leading a "winnable" fight vs INTL currency Manipulators....



    Btw...GOOGLE is going to pay dearly....Billy Barr ain't going to let their TOTAL manipulation and Chinese Influence go unfettered..THANK GOD....


    HONG KONG watch out....I have a STRONG feeling this ain't gonna end pretty..


     Gotta have faith POTUS has a clue....BOH..




     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2019 - 2:46 AM ET #6

    ^^ So much for CHINA....Bernie, telling it like it is

    the trade 'war' is getting neither China, or the USA 
    any positive attention globally...it's at stalemate status,
    both countries need to throw in the towel at the same time, and progress forward...the USA only real advantage (if that's what you want to make reference) is that China needs the U.S. wayyyyyyy more, and would suffer without american technology at their disposal ...on the other hand, the USA can function just fine on their own; exclusively, and independently,  without any commerce attachment whatsoever with China...we need them for absolutely Nothing... President Trump is wasting time, and energy pursuing a no win situation....

    to each his own
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    ^^ So much for CHINA....Bernie, telling it like it is

    the trade 'war' is getting neither China, or the USA 
    any positive attention globally...it's at stalemate status,
    both countries need to throw in the towel at the same time, and progress forward...the USA only real advantage (if that's what you want to make reference) is that China needs the U.S. wayyyyyyy more, and would suffer without american technology at their disposal ...on the other hand, the USA can function just fine on their own; exclusively, and independently,  without any commerce attachment whatsoever with China...we need them for absolutely Nothing... President Trump is wasting time, and energy pursuing a no win situation....

    to each his own
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2019 - 10:51 AM ET #7

    2 mornings after China goes nuclear.
     Gold very quietly breaks through the $1500 barrier. Silver follows going above $17. 
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    2 mornings after China goes nuclear.
     Gold very quietly breaks through the $1500 barrier. Silver follows going above $17. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2019 - 11:18 AM ET #8

    There is no way you can say it other than the US benefits GREATLY from a relationship with China...we get cheap crappy goods and products, we get to offload millions of tons of our farm goods to them and now Trump has to keep bailing out farmers and other industries who China purchased from. I am fine with being tough on China but for the right reasons. What I am not ok with is how the liar in chief keeps tweeting and saying garbage that is just complete lies. China is a communist country, they are not going to act like the US or the UK would with regards to their currency, and we are little different than any other country with regards to manipulation. What is QE exactly? Manipulation of the supply/demand curve for our currency. Trump tries to blame everyone else, he is great at doing so but he is yet again wrong with his whining and finger pointing. I hope the FED does this right and sits on rates, we do not want zero rates, it is a catastrophe, a short term bandaid instead of taking our economic lumps for the excesses and start thinking about saving and debt reduction.
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    There is no way you can say it other than the US benefits GREATLY from a relationship with China...we get cheap crappy goods and products, we get to offload millions of tons of our farm goods to them and now Trump has to keep bailing out farmers and other industries who China purchased from. I am fine with being tough on China but for the right reasons. What I am not ok with is how the liar in chief keeps tweeting and saying garbage that is just complete lies. China is a communist country, they are not going to act like the US or the UK would with regards to their currency, and we are little different than any other country with regards to manipulation. What is QE exactly? Manipulation of the supply/demand curve for our currency. Trump tries to blame everyone else, he is great at doing so but he is yet again wrong with his whining and finger pointing. I hope the FED does this right and sits on rates, we do not want zero rates, it is a catastrophe, a short term bandaid instead of taking our economic lumps for the excesses and start thinking about saving and debt reduction.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2019 - 11:12 PM ET #9

    Trump's trade war is stupid and unnecessary with losses in jobs and economic growth for both US and China.  Trade deficits aren't necessarily bad according to most economists.  Deficits occur naturally because US buys more than it produces with imports filling the gap.  Both importers and exporters benefit.  Economists reject Trump's claim that other countries are taking advantage of the US.  Since US dollar is world's reserve currency, US can borrow money cheap and take advantage of other countries.

    Obviously, Trump's bullying won't work against China.  Negotiations have failed because of unreasonable Trump demands that no responsible leadership would accept.  In response to US tariffs, China has suspended purchases of agricultural products and allowed yuan to fall naturally by not manipulating it.  Such drastic escalations in trade war wouldn't be made unless China is no longer confident of a deal with Trump. Things might become ugly if global economies slide into recession in the future.  Then Trump's legacy would be ending the longest economic expansion in US history.
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    Trump's trade war is stupid and unnecessary with losses in jobs and economic growth for both US and China.  Trade deficits aren't necessarily bad according to most economists.  Deficits occur naturally because US buys more than it produces with imports filling the gap.  Both importers and exporters benefit.  Economists reject Trump's claim that other countries are taking advantage of the US.  Since US dollar is world's reserve currency, US can borrow money cheap and take advantage of other countries.

    Obviously, Trump's bullying won't work against China.  Negotiations have failed because of unreasonable Trump demands that no responsible leadership would accept.  In response to US tariffs, China has suspended purchases of agricultural products and allowed yuan to fall naturally by not manipulating it.  Such drastic escalations in trade war wouldn't be made unless China is no longer confident of a deal with Trump. Things might become ugly if global economies slide into recession in the future.  Then Trump's legacy would be ending the longest economic expansion in US history.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2019 - 6:09 AM ET #10


    Funny how Reps NEVER mention the printing of money. 

    Or NEVER mention the $20t deficit. 

    When Obama was in office that's all Reps ever talked about. 

    Since Trump took office all I hear are crickets.

    Just withdrew $8K from my bank and got 80 $100 bills...
    IN NUMERICAL SEQUENCE.

    Fukk BOTH Reps and Dems.  They are ALL lying hypocrites. 


    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Funny how Reps NEVER mention the printing of money. 

    Or NEVER mention the $20t deficit. 

    When Obama was in office that's all Reps ever talked about. 

    Since Trump took office all I hear are crickets.

    Just withdrew $8K from my bank and got 80 $100 bills...
    IN NUMERICAL SEQUENCE.

    Fukk BOTH Reps and Dems.  They are ALL lying hypocrites. 


     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2019 - 6:14 AM ET #11


    "I think corporations will stay in China, continue outsourcing to India as well"

    Well, look who just woke up!!!!!
    I've only been saying this for thirty years.

    Corporate Fukks™

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    "I think corporations will stay in China, continue outsourcing to India as well"

    Well, look who just woke up!!!!!
    I've only been saying this for thirty years.

    Corporate Fukks™

     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2019 - 6:39 PM ET #12

    If Corps dont like the shakedown, QUIT DOING BUSINESS THERE. You are dealing with a Communist country with lousy structure so if you want to wade in the pool get ready for whatever happens.
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    If Corps dont like the shakedown, QUIT DOING BUSINESS THERE. You are dealing with a Communist country with lousy structure so if you want to wade in the pool get ready for whatever happens.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2019 - 11:18 PM ET #13

    This is one of the most interesting topics of the Trump admin.  Really just have to wait it out though.  China may just stand pat until his second term.  Both sides just waiting for the other to flinch.
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    This is one of the most interesting topics of the Trump admin.  Really just have to wait it out though.  China may just stand pat until his second term.  Both sides just waiting for the other to flinch.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2019 - 12:18 PM ET #14

    The way Trump has abused China I think the odds of something happening soon are low and positive to be very low. Trump is a moronic thug who thinks belittling and lying about others to get his way is a good strategy as it has served him well over the years. China cares much more about respect and honor and wont be intimidated like others have been. Trump is the exactly wrong person to negotiate with a counter party who does not play as he does and wont be bullied into submission. This is sad on multiple levels that our society is ok with how our leader represents us and is a lying abusive jerk, nobody is standing up to him and since his voting base cares more about the political agenda than the person, a smug amoral clown like Trump actually is in this position. I hate how this slimeball is debasing this country and pitting people against each other, Trump is a poison that is spreading and his style is being accepted more and more because deep down people want to be cruel and amoral, they want to kick the other party and want to belittle. I hope China sticks to their principals and debases the Yuan to 8 if necessary to force our disgusting leader to relent..they have deeper pockets and a stronger will than Trump does, I dont see how they will give in based on how poorly he has treated them.
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    The way Trump has abused China I think the odds of something happening soon are low and positive to be very low. Trump is a moronic thug who thinks belittling and lying about others to get his way is a good strategy as it has served him well over the years. China cares much more about respect and honor and wont be intimidated like others have been. Trump is the exactly wrong person to negotiate with a counter party who does not play as he does and wont be bullied into submission. This is sad on multiple levels that our society is ok with how our leader represents us and is a lying abusive jerk, nobody is standing up to him and since his voting base cares more about the political agenda than the person, a smug amoral clown like Trump actually is in this position. I hate how this slimeball is debasing this country and pitting people against each other, Trump is a poison that is spreading and his style is being accepted more and more because deep down people want to be cruel and amoral, they want to kick the other party and want to belittle. I hope China sticks to their principals and debases the Yuan to 8 if necessary to force our disgusting leader to relent..they have deeper pockets and a stronger will than Trump does, I dont see how they will give in based on how poorly he has treated them.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    The way Trump has abused China I think the odds of something happening soon are low and positive to be very low. Trump is a moronic thug who thinks belittling and lying about others to get his way is a good strategy as it has served him well over the years. China cares much more about respect and honor and wont be intimidated like others have been. Trump is the exactly wrong person to negotiate with a counter party who does not play as he does and wont be bullied into submission. This is sad on multiple levels that our society is ok with how our leader represents us and is a lying abusive jerk, nobody is standing up to him and since his voting base cares more about the political agenda than the person, a smug amoral clown like Trump actually is in this position. I hate how this slimeball is debasing this country and pitting people against each other, Trump is a poison that is spreading and his style is being accepted more and more because deep down people want to be cruel and amoral, they want to kick the other party and want to belittle. I hope China sticks to their principals and debases the Yuan to 8 if necessary to force our disgusting leader to relent..they have deeper pockets and a stronger will than Trump does, I dont see how they will give in based on how poorly he has treated them. 


     
    Nobody is slimier than China they couldn't care less about licensing laws selling American goods when it's made in China as shittyyy copies around the world.  Nobody lies more.  Nobody renegs more.  Nobody treats their own citizens worse.  They are property of the government.  You act like China is the victim here.  Please.  Who else should negotiate?  Give me a name because up to now China has been treating the U.S like garbage.  You'll never hear anyone from the left critique him about China because everyone agrees something has to change.  Even on Twitter when he bashes China you don't hear much.  Trump isn't the leader we wanted, he's the leader we need in handling China.  Trump has the high ground, China has zero leverage.  For every $22 dollars US spends buying Chinese goods they spend $1.  China can't win this, why would Trump play his hand any different.  Let him handle this.  This is what he does.  The first business man doing business like a boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    The way Trump has abused China I think the odds of something happening soon are low and positive to be very low. Trump is a moronic thug who thinks belittling and lying about others to get his way is a good strategy as it has served him well over the years. China cares much more about respect and honor and wont be intimidated like others have been. Trump is the exactly wrong person to negotiate with a counter party who does not play as he does and wont be bullied into submission. This is sad on multiple levels that our society is ok with how our leader represents us and is a lying abusive jerk, nobody is standing up to him and since his voting base cares more about the political agenda than the person, a smug amoral clown like Trump actually is in this position. I hate how this slimeball is debasing this country and pitting people against each other, Trump is a poison that is spreading and his style is being accepted more and more because deep down people want to be cruel and amoral, they want to kick the other party and want to belittle. I hope China sticks to their principals and debases the Yuan to 8 if necessary to force our disgusting leader to relent..they have deeper pockets and a stronger will than Trump does, I dont see how they will give in based on how poorly he has treated them. 


     
    Nobody is slimier than China they couldn't care less about licensing laws selling American goods when it's made in China as shittyyy copies around the world.  Nobody lies more.  Nobody renegs more.  Nobody treats their own citizens worse.  They are property of the government.  You act like China is the victim here.  Please.  Who else should negotiate?  Give me a name because up to now China has been treating the U.S like garbage.  You'll never hear anyone from the left critique him about China because everyone agrees something has to change.  Even on Twitter when he bashes China you don't hear much.  Trump isn't the leader we wanted, he's the leader we need in handling China.  Trump has the high ground, China has zero leverage.  For every $22 dollars US spends buying Chinese goods they spend $1.  China can't win this, why would Trump play his hand any different.  Let him handle this.  This is what he does.  The first business man doing business like a boss.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2019 - 2:10 PM ET #16

    Trump will succumb to China and call it a victory.

    That's who he is.

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    Trump will succumb to China and call it a victory.

    That's who he is.

     
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    Good,bad or indifferent... President Trump as America's chosen leader ,, represents America.. and as such.. I could not side with another country against America..it would be UN-American ..
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    Good,bad or indifferent... President Trump as America's chosen leader ,, represents America.. and as such.. I could not side with another country against America..it would be UN-American ..
     
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    "Trade wars are easy to win."

    ----- Donald "Jughead" Trump
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    "Trade wars are easy to win."

    ----- Donald "Jughead" Trump
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Good,bad or indifferent... President Trump as America's chosen leader ,, represents America.. and as such.. I could not side with another country against America..it would be UN-American ..

    It's not about siding. It's about who is telling me the truth.

    I couldn't give 2 shits about China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Good,bad or indifferent... President Trump as America's chosen leader ,, represents America.. and as such.. I could not side with another country against America..it would be UN-American ..

    It's not about siding. It's about who is telling me the truth.

    I couldn't give 2 shits about China.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    "Trade wars are easy to win."

    ----- Donald "Jughead" Trump

    You are misquoting the President........
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    "Trade wars are easy to win."

    ----- Donald "Jughead" Trump

    You are misquoting the President........
     
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    165, I am not saying China is right, nor that they arent slimeballs themselves. I am saying Trump is NOT being a boss by lying and trying to intimidate as he does, he is not serving this country by acting as he does. There are ways to negotiate that do not include the childish antics that Trump shows every single day. He is embarrassing as a representative of this country...

    The point about China's abuses are more with regard to us wanting cheap goods and corps profiting ENORMOUSLY off these goods at the expense of the long term health of this country. It is the state of politics that our larger national interests are not being fulfilled because corps lobby to access Chinese imports, cheaper China labor and good ole Big AND Little AG slurps from China and their ability to leverage that relationship thanks to politicians and our trade agreements.

    Trump is not great at negotiating, he is an abusive thug who abuses others for his personal gain. He is like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and others who leverage their advantage to destroy competition...that is not capitalism, it is not what makes this country great. Competition, respect and honor make this country great and Trump is NONE of those things.

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    165, I am not saying China is right, nor that they arent slimeballs themselves. I am saying Trump is NOT being a boss by lying and trying to intimidate as he does, he is not serving this country by acting as he does. There are ways to negotiate that do not include the childish antics that Trump shows every single day. He is embarrassing as a representative of this country...

    The point about China's abuses are more with regard to us wanting cheap goods and corps profiting ENORMOUSLY off these goods at the expense of the long term health of this country. It is the state of politics that our larger national interests are not being fulfilled because corps lobby to access Chinese imports, cheaper China labor and good ole Big AND Little AG slurps from China and their ability to leverage that relationship thanks to politicians and our trade agreements.

    Trump is not great at negotiating, he is an abusive thug who abuses others for his personal gain. He is like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and others who leverage their advantage to destroy competition...that is not capitalism, it is not what makes this country great. Competition, respect and honor make this country great and Trump is NONE of those things.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    "Trade wars are easy to win."----- Donald "Jughead" Trump
    You are misquoting the President........

    “When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win,” Trump tweeted Friday morning. “When we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don’t trade anymore – we win big. It’s easy!”

    So you think this sounds better? confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    "Trade wars are easy to win."----- Donald "Jughead" Trump
    You are misquoting the President........

    “When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win,” Trump tweeted Friday morning. “When we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don’t trade anymore – we win big. It’s easy!”

    So you think this sounds better? confused

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2019 - 7:04 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    You are misquoting the President........

    “When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win,” Trump tweeted Friday morning. “When we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don’t trade anymore – we win big. It’s easy!”

    So you think this sounds better? confused


    It is not a matter of which sounds better ..but of misrepresenting what was actually said ...

    Do you feel it's ok to put quotation marks around words someone did not say and attribute it to them.. I doubt it.

    Quotation marks are used for direct quotes not made up statements..isn't there enough stuff out there, that President Trumps say's to use without falsifing what he actually said ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    You are misquoting the President........

    “When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win,” Trump tweeted Friday morning. “When we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don’t trade anymore – we win big. It’s easy!”

    So you think this sounds better? confused


    It is not a matter of which sounds better ..but of misrepresenting what was actually said ...

    Do you feel it's ok to put quotation marks around words someone did not say and attribute it to them.. I doubt it.

    Quotation marks are used for direct quotes not made up statements..isn't there enough stuff out there, that President Trumps say's to use without falsifing what he actually said ?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2019 - 7:41 PM ET #24

    ..and to think ...this China thing was all started when President Clinton reversed a campaign pledge and used an E.O.to extend China's most-favored-nation (MFN) trade status..

    If that wasn't enough President Clinton shoehorned China into the World Trade Organization, ..just 3 month before he left office.

     Clinton said one thing and did another in terms of trade..to America's detriment..
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    ..and to think ...this China thing was all started when President Clinton reversed a campaign pledge and used an E.O.to extend China's most-favored-nation (MFN) trade status..

    If that wasn't enough President Clinton shoehorned China into the World Trade Organization, ..just 3 month before he left office.

     Clinton said one thing and did another in terms of trade..to America's detriment..
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    You are misquoting the President........ “When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win,” Trump tweeted Friday morning. “When we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don’t trade anymore – we win big. It’s easy!” So you think this sounds better? 
    It is not a matter of which sounds better ..but of misrepresenting what was actually said ...Do you feel it's ok to put quotation marks around words someone did not say and attribute it to them.. I doubt it. Quotation marks are used for direct quotes not made up statements..isn't there enough stuff out there, that President Trumps say's to use without falsifing what he actually said ?

    Problem is that he did say what Dogbite said. Trump said trade wars are good and easy to win. That cannot be denied. You are trying to make this a semantics issue rather than accepting the moron said what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    You are misquoting the President........ “When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win,” Trump tweeted Friday morning. “When we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don’t trade anymore – we win big. It’s easy!” So you think this sounds better? 
    It is not a matter of which sounds better ..but of misrepresenting what was actually said ...Do you feel it's ok to put quotation marks around words someone did not say and attribute it to them.. I doubt it. Quotation marks are used for direct quotes not made up statements..isn't there enough stuff out there, that President Trumps say's to use without falsifing what he actually said ?

    Problem is that he did say what Dogbite said. Trump said trade wars are good and easy to win. That cannot be denied. You are trying to make this a semantics issue rather than accepting the moron said what he said.

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