Was this a good play?

A little past midway through a tournament.  I get dealt pocket 8's and raise before the flop and get reraised behind me and I call.  Flop comes down 6 7 9 rainbow and I raise and he reraises me again so I reraised all in and he called with pocket Q which I basically had him read on.  I was in the middle of the pack in the tourney and he had almost twice as many chips as me.  Should I have folded or did I make the right play with a basically 1 in 5 shot to make my hand?

Yeah I had a feeling that was the answer.

Well from watching him play for a while he wouldn't have checked the flop, he would have bet if I checked for sure.  If I didn't bet the flop and checked he would have bet but doubtfully for all my chips so I could at least of seen the turn and saved my tournament by folding to a bet that would put me all in.  Thanks for showing me a couple ways of looking at it now.

If that's the case I would check/call on the flop.  There can also be an argument for the pre flop play too. 

getting re raised is usually a fold with pocket pairs, because any overcard will most likely help your opponent. 

I know I'll get bashed for this one, but if you have a healthy stack vs the blinds then limping pocket pairs is almost never wrong, because if you get raised you can see the flop cheaper, since all you really want is a set, it's easier to check/fold the flop when you miss.  Although with the open str8 draw you getting odds to call pretty much any continuation bet. 

Tournaments are about survival and slowly building a stack off small pots while getting it allin with big hands.  So playing passive and cautious can be profitable.  With a passive image donkeys will always pay you, because they think they have to be aggressive to win.

raising on a 35% chance having already invested a little on a pre flop raise is not a bad play.  It is risky and you would have had to be raising enough on the flop to hope for a fold.  No way you can fold to the re raise with two raises invested and a better than 1 in 3 chance. 

 

you dont want to go all in on a 1/3 shot.....you want to go all in when YOU are the 3/1 favorite......

exactly 

 

Since when is a 35% to 65% a 4.5:1 shot???????? 

how much was the pre flop re-raise that you were faced with???  depending on the situation i might have folded my 8's pre flop...  out of position as well

thats only 65% best case scenerio.....it might have been much worse, and after that flop he had little chnce of winning that hand....

thats when....

4.5-1 .......its easy.....

you know what 7 cards are ....6,7,9, 2 queens, 2 8s......

that leaves 45 cards......

10 of those probably give you a winner.....

45/10 = 4.5

thus your odds are 4.5-1 of hitting one of those cards.....

do you need further instruction??

terrible play

You have to be more descriptive in this hand for others to determine wether it was a bad play or not.

- What position were you and your opponent?
- How much did you raise pre-flop? How much did you bet post flop? how much did he re-raise post-flop?
- What kind of table was it, lose? aggressive? conservative?
- What type of player was your opponent? Tight? Lose?
- What type pf player are you?
- What perception did they have of you - what sort of player did you display yourself on the table?


There were several things you had to consider playing this hand:


- What range of hands did you put him on pre-flop and then what hand did you put him on post flop after he re-raised?
- What hand did you think he put you on pre-flop?


There were several key mistakes you made in this hand:

- A hand like pocket 8's should be played middle to late position. I would not play it if i were SB/BB/UTG.
- You were primarily out of position to begin with, you got re-raised pre-flop and you called out of position, you then got re-raised out of position and called post-flop.
- Depending on how much you re-raised pre-flop and what you called post flop (we dont know because you didnt stipulate) you may have been commited in this hand thus: you put your tourny life out of position on pocket 8's.


A check on the flop would have been good simply because your out of posiiton and risk being raised as you did. I think you over played the hand and in turn played the hand badly. Raising pre-flop would have let you know where you were in the hand and if somebody re-raised you you'd have to be worried especially if it's by a tight/conservative player. Again if you raised a significant amount pre-flop and got re-raised a significant amount and your opponent is tight/conservative then it's probably the end of the line for you in any situation like this especially if your going to choose pocket 8's as the hand you commit your tourny life on.


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What a dip shit!  He has 10 outs TWICE . . . . Not ONCE!  Usually, in Texas Holdem, there's Fourth Street & Fifth Street which is known as the Turn & River, respectively.

With 10 outs TWICE, he has about a 34% chance to win the pot.  Take 100-34=66.  Then take 66/34= 2:1 "shot" of winning the hand.

Do you need further instruction??????????????

LMAO, LMAO, LMAO, LMAO . . . . What a dip shit!