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    ShaukDaddy
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2011 - 8:32 PM ET #1

    As you can see i could coast to 2nd in this tournament, however if you see the hand below who would do what i did.  2nd is 135. 3rd is 90 bucks.  However as you can see if flop 2 pair then i hit the nut fullhouse.  Who wouldnt shove there.  Of course next card off gives him a higher full house but who agrees thats the correct play.

    Jus curious of thoughts 

    Table '349234137 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 4: beed2 (590 in chips) 
    Seat 6: Shaukdaddy (5810 in chips) 
    Seat 7: WaltherH (7100 in chips) 
    Shaukdaddy: posts small blind 75
    WaltherH: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Shaukdaddy [Kc Jh]
    beed2: folds 
    Shaukdaddy: raises 150 to 300
    WaltherH: calls 150
    *** FLOP *** [Jc Ks Ts]
    Shaukdaddy: bets 600
    WaltherH: calls 600
    *** TURN *** [Jc Ks Ts] [Kh]
    Shaukdaddy: checks 
    WaltherH: bets 750
    Shaukdaddy: raises 4160 to 4910 and is all-in
    WaltherH: calls 4160
    *** RIVER *** [Jc Ks Ts Kh] [Qh]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Shaukdaddy: shows [Kc Jh] (a full house, Kings full of Jacks)
    WaltherH: shows [Qc Kd] (a full house, Kings full of Queens)
    WaltherH collected 11620 from pot
    WaltherH wins the $12.50 bounty for eliminating Shaukdaddy
    Shaukdaddy finished the tournament in 3rd place and received $90.00.
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 11620 | Rake 0 
    Board [Jc Ks Ts Kh Qh]
    Seat 4: beed2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Shaukdaddy (small blind) showed [Kc Jh] and lost with a full house, Kings full of Jacks
    Seat 7: WaltherH (big blind) showed [Qc Kd] and won (11620) with a full house, Kings full of Queens
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    As you can see i could coast to 2nd in this tournament, however if you see the hand below who would do what i did.  2nd is 135. 3rd is 90 bucks.  However as you can see if flop 2 pair then i hit the nut fullhouse.  Who wouldnt shove there.  Of course next card off gives him a higher full house but who agrees thats the correct play.

    Jus curious of thoughts 

    Table '349234137 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 4: beed2 (590 in chips) 
    Seat 6: Shaukdaddy (5810 in chips) 
    Seat 7: WaltherH (7100 in chips) 
    Shaukdaddy: posts small blind 75
    WaltherH: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Shaukdaddy [Kc Jh]
    beed2: folds 
    Shaukdaddy: raises 150 to 300
    WaltherH: calls 150
    *** FLOP *** [Jc Ks Ts]
    Shaukdaddy: bets 600
    WaltherH: calls 600
    *** TURN *** [Jc Ks Ts] [Kh]
    Shaukdaddy: checks 
    WaltherH: bets 750
    Shaukdaddy: raises 4160 to 4910 and is all-in
    WaltherH: calls 4160
    *** RIVER *** [Jc Ks Ts Kh] [Qh]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Shaukdaddy: shows [Kc Jh] (a full house, Kings full of Jacks)
    WaltherH: shows [Qc Kd] (a full house, Kings full of Queens)
    WaltherH collected 11620 from pot
    WaltherH wins the $12.50 bounty for eliminating Shaukdaddy
    Shaukdaddy finished the tournament in 3rd place and received $90.00.
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 11620 | Rake 0 
    Board [Jc Ks Ts Kh Qh]
    Seat 4: beed2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Shaukdaddy (small blind) showed [Kc Jh] and lost with a full house, Kings full of Jacks
    Seat 7: WaltherH (big blind) showed [Qc Kd] and won (11620) with a full house, Kings full of Queens
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2011 - 8:41 PM ET #2

    just a tough spot, nothing you cld do there.  Played it correctly
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    just a tough spot, nothing you cld do there.  Played it correctly
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2011 - 11:45 PM ET #3

    100% correct play

    Just a bad beat
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    100% correct play

    Just a bad beat
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 10:32 AM ET #4

    Come on Mannnn........U turn a  nutt boat...what's your question  

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    Come on Mannnn........U turn a  nutt boat...what's your question  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 12:09 PM ET #5

    basically the only question is would you be weary of going all in when the 3rd place guy is so short stacked.  I dont regret my play i was just curious would your thinking change if you were right in the cut off money position.  Where you get sucked out you win nothing as opposed to gaurentee of money.

    Im curious to thinking,another hand happened at stars.  Early in a SNG, i have 6/7 offsuit no raises flop comes 8,9,10,  guy out of position goes all in instantly.  rainbow.  Since such little is invested could you fold the straight, i did some calculations and a chance for a low straight vs higher straight both hitting is 1/857,384.  So its very unlikely, however i call and they flip of q/j.  

    Since so little is invested i regretted the call then i did the math and feel it was the right move.  Just was a cooler
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    basically the only question is would you be weary of going all in when the 3rd place guy is so short stacked.  I dont regret my play i was just curious would your thinking change if you were right in the cut off money position.  Where you get sucked out you win nothing as opposed to gaurentee of money.

    Im curious to thinking,another hand happened at stars.  Early in a SNG, i have 6/7 offsuit no raises flop comes 8,9,10,  guy out of position goes all in instantly.  rainbow.  Since such little is invested could you fold the straight, i did some calculations and a chance for a low straight vs higher straight both hitting is 1/857,384.  So its very unlikely, however i call and they flip of q/j.  

    Since so little is invested i regretted the call then i did the math and feel it was the right move.  Just was a cooler
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 5:51 PM ET #6

    2nd place is $135

    3rd place is $90

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    Unless you make 3$ an hour working extremely hard labor and 45$ mean the world to you, you get all your chips in there at an absolute worst case scenario 88% favorite and never look back. Not trying to be a dick but how can you even ask?

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    2nd place is $135

    3rd place is $90

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    Unless you make 3$ an hour working extremely hard labor and 45$ mean the world to you, you get all your chips in there at an absolute worst case scenario 88% favorite and never look back. Not trying to be a dick but how can you even ask?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 6:03 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaukDaddy:

    basically the only question is would you be weary of going all in when the 3rd place guy is so short stacked.  I dont regret my play i was just curious would your thinking change if you were right in the cut off money position.  Where you get sucked out you win nothing as opposed to gaurentee of money.

    Im curious to thinking,another hand happened at stars.  Early in a SNG, i have 6/7 offsuit no raises flop comes 8,9,10,  guy out of position goes all in instantly.  rainbow.  Since such little is invested could you fold the straight, i did some calculations and a chance for a low straight vs higher straight both hitting is 1/857,384.  So its very unlikely, however i call and they flip of q/j.  

    Since so little is invested i regretted the call then i did the math and feel it was the right move.  Just was a cooler

    Hold-em good call..Omaha Fold

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaukDaddy:

    basically the only question is would you be weary of going all in when the 3rd place guy is so short stacked.  I dont regret my play i was just curious would your thinking change if you were right in the cut off money position.  Where you get sucked out you win nothing as opposed to gaurentee of money.

    Im curious to thinking,another hand happened at stars.  Early in a SNG, i have 6/7 offsuit no raises flop comes 8,9,10,  guy out of position goes all in instantly.  rainbow.  Since such little is invested could you fold the straight, i did some calculations and a chance for a low straight vs higher straight both hitting is 1/857,384.  So its very unlikely, however i call and they flip of q/j.  

    Since so little is invested i regretted the call then i did the math and feel it was the right move.  Just was a cooler

    Hold-em good call..Omaha Fold

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 10:17 AM ET #8

    It happens to everyone
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2011 - 2:07 AM ET #9

    Just a cooler.  Only one hand beats you and you have a king in your hand so the odds of him having KQ is remote.  You played it fine.  You cannot fold this hand often if ever if you hope to be taken seriously, especially with a connected hands with many other possible big hands that might have hit.

    Only in a very very small situation would I ever fold this hand, and it would have to be a live hand with some very serious stakes as I would be fishing for information for at least 5 full minutes before folding.


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    Just a cooler.  Only one hand beats you and you have a king in your hand so the odds of him having KQ is remote.  You played it fine.  You cannot fold this hand often if ever if you hope to be taken seriously, especially with a connected hands with many other possible big hands that might have hit.

    Only in a very very small situation would I ever fold this hand, and it would have to be a live hand with some very serious stakes as I would be fishing for information for at least 5 full minutes before folding.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2011 - 1:52 AM ET #10

    no, he couldve pre flop shoved from l.b. ..give the man a chance to fold kq there.... always give a man a chance to fold....force him to call   u c what happened....keep turning boats son u b ok
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    no, he couldve pre flop shoved from l.b. ..give the man a chance to fold kq there.... always give a man a chance to fold....force him to call   u c what happened....keep turning boats son u b ok
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2011 - 4:13 AM ET #11

     You played the hand PERFECTLY.  Bad beats are unfortunately a BIG part of poker. 
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     You played the hand PERFECTLY.  Bad beats are unfortunately a BIG part of poker. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2011 - 5:56 AM ET #12

    since, u wanted 2nd place. u could of 3x bet the turn of 750 3x. 2250. and wiated for the river.  then seeing as a queen or ace was a potential better hand FH. u culd of folded to his probable all in.

    but this is just sceanario.  he mite of gone all in on the turn. reraise. tehn u still don't get to see the river card before hitting the allin butten.

    but this is one potential way to possibly concrete at least a 2nd place finish.

     

    sometimes it's not just math, on the cards in play, but match in table dynamics.  a 750 call to 2250 raise. gives you several thousand in chips to seat 4 with his 550 in chips.

     

    so those mathmatics look good. if you want a shot at his bounty head, and 2nd place.

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    since, u wanted 2nd place. u could of 3x bet the turn of 750 3x. 2250. and wiated for the river.  then seeing as a queen or ace was a potential better hand FH. u culd of folded to his probable all in.

    but this is just sceanario.  he mite of gone all in on the turn. reraise. tehn u still don't get to see the river card before hitting the allin butten.

    but this is one potential way to possibly concrete at least a 2nd place finish.

     

    sometimes it's not just math, on the cards in play, but match in table dynamics.  a 750 call to 2250 raise. gives you several thousand in chips to seat 4 with his 550 in chips.

     

    so those mathmatics look good. if you want a shot at his bounty head, and 2nd place.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2011 - 5:48 PM ET #13

    got sucked out on,... it only happens to you.
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2011 - 4:40 PM ET #14

    Tough one, but def the right play.
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