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    Hellmuth on WSOP last night

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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 11:53 AM ET #1

    Classic Phil. 
     
    I can't excuse his behavior and he's way over the top at times, but when he went off about how, "that guy from Northern Europe calls my raise with 8-5" (or whatever it was), I just about fell of my couch laughing.  He's such the master of de-humanizing people at the table....even people who have decent reputations.  I don't agree with it, but it sure is entertaining. 
     
    It was also fantastic when he said, "you probably didn't think I could play 10-Q that well".....and low and behold, his opponent's 10-Q beats Phil's set.  You can't make it up. 
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    Classic Phil. 
     
    I can't excuse his behavior and he's way over the top at times, but when he went off about how, "that guy from Northern Europe calls my raise with 8-5" (or whatever it was), I just about fell of my couch laughing.  He's such the master of de-humanizing people at the table....even people who have decent reputations.  I don't agree with it, but it sure is entertaining. 
     
    It was also fantastic when he said, "you probably didn't think I could play 10-Q that well".....and low and behold, his opponent's 10-Q beats Phil's set.  You can't make it up. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 5:32 PM ET #2

    it was too funny especially since the first guy was supposedly some great internet pro but he still couldn't say anything after what phil said.
     
    phil is hilarious, you have to give him that.
     
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    it was too funny especially since the first guy was supposedly some great internet pro but he still couldn't say anything after what phil said.
     
    phil is hilarious, you have to give him that.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2008 - 11:14 PM ET #3

      "this idiot from Northern Europe ...calls 5 7 out of position..."
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      "this idiot from Northern Europe ...calls 5 7 out of position..."
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 12:32 AM ET #4

    I could not believe that guy was just sitting there without saying anything...i would have called him out in the parking lot and bitch-slap that little whiny box.....so brave in front of the cameras, until someone really gets up and slaps him - i bet he would cry like a little girl
     
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    I could not believe that guy was just sitting there without saying anything...i would have called him out in the parking lot and bitch-slap that little whiny box.....so brave in front of the cameras, until someone really gets up and slaps him - i bet he would cry like a little girl
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 12:38 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by rogoznica:

    I could not believe that guy was just sitting there without saying anything...i would have called him out in the parking lot and bitch-slap that little whiny box.....so brave in front of the cameras, until someone really gets up and slaps him - i bet he would cry like a little girl
     

    I forget what pro it was, older guy...punched him in the face years ago I believe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogoznica:

    I could not believe that guy was just sitting there without saying anything...i would have called him out in the parking lot and bitch-slap that little whiny box.....so brave in front of the cameras, until someone really gets up and slaps him - i bet he would cry like a little girl
     

    I forget what pro it was, older guy...punched him in the face years ago I believe...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2008 - 2:07 PM ET #6

    That's exactly it, Ziggy. It's not just "idiot," it's not just "European idiot," it's "idiot from northern Europe."  It's just classic.
     
    By the way, did anyone notice when Phil was playing that hand, he said, "I'm gonna do something, but this hand wasn't too kind to me yesterday....we'll see what it does for me today."  Something like that.  Anyway, if you're at the table, aren't you pretty sure that he's got a middle pair.  What kind of hand does Phil say that about???  It has to be a vulnerable hand and would he really say something like that about a hand like 10-J or K-Q or something? 
     
    Anyway, if I'm trying to defend a call there with a pretty marginal hand, don't you say, "listen, Phil, it was obvious you weren't that excited about your hand cuz you can't keep your damn mouth shut.....and WTF is wrong with calling with two overcards which I was pretty sure I had after you all but called your hand marginal." 
     
    I suppose that he may not want to let Phil know he was on to him, but did you guys notice that?  Unless Phil is a master actor, I was screaming at the TV saying what a tell that his little conversation with himself was (about how the same hand got him into trouble the day before).
     
    Anyone else notice that?

     
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    That's exactly it, Ziggy. It's not just "idiot," it's not just "European idiot," it's "idiot from northern Europe."  It's just classic.
     
    By the way, did anyone notice when Phil was playing that hand, he said, "I'm gonna do something, but this hand wasn't too kind to me yesterday....we'll see what it does for me today."  Something like that.  Anyway, if you're at the table, aren't you pretty sure that he's got a middle pair.  What kind of hand does Phil say that about???  It has to be a vulnerable hand and would he really say something like that about a hand like 10-J or K-Q or something? 
     
    Anyway, if I'm trying to defend a call there with a pretty marginal hand, don't you say, "listen, Phil, it was obvious you weren't that excited about your hand cuz you can't keep your damn mouth shut.....and WTF is wrong with calling with two overcards which I was pretty sure I had after you all but called your hand marginal." 
     
    I suppose that he may not want to let Phil know he was on to him, but did you guys notice that?  Unless Phil is a master actor, I was screaming at the TV saying what a tell that his little conversation with himself was (about how the same hand got him into trouble the day before).
     
    Anyone else notice that?

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 6:41 AM ET #7

    crus, sam grizzle is the player u r referring to...think back a few years when world series was won by moneymaker and in the early rounds of tv coverage, phil and sam were at same table and they explained their past history
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    crus, sam grizzle is the player u r referring to...think back a few years when world series was won by moneymaker and in the early rounds of tv coverage, phil and sam were at same table and they explained their past history
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tb2:

    crus, sam grizzle is the player u r referring to...think back a few years when world series was won by moneymaker and in the early rounds of tv coverage, phil and sam were at same table and they explained their past history

    you are dead on my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb2:

    crus, sam grizzle is the player u r referring to...think back a few years when world series was won by moneymaker and in the early rounds of tv coverage, phil and sam were at same table and they explained their past history

    you are dead on my friend.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 9:40 AM ET #9

    ive still yet to see his entrance with that army gig he did
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    ive still yet to see his entrance with that army gig he did
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:36 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusCrnshw:

    ive still yet to see his entrance with that army gig he did

    It's pretty solid.  I've actually met Phil before....talked to him briefly at a book signing.  He's a COMPLETE NERD.  Sure can play tournament poker, but the sense of humor of a 5 year old from my experience.  I cracked a quick little joke and he giggled like a little kid and obviously didn't come close to getting it. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrusCrnshw:

    ive still yet to see his entrance with that army gig he did

    It's pretty solid.  I've actually met Phil before....talked to him briefly at a book signing.  He's a COMPLETE NERD.  Sure can play tournament poker, but the sense of humor of a 5 year old from my experience.  I cracked a quick little joke and he giggled like a little kid and obviously didn't come close to getting it. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 10:04 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusCrnshw:

    I forget what pro it was, older guy...punched him in the face years ago I believe...

      sam grisom,or something close to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrusCrnshw:

    I forget what pro it was, older guy...punched him in the face years ago I believe...

      sam grisom,or something close to that.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by username474:

      sam grisom,or something close to that.

     

    or somethin like Samson Grizzlenowski

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    Quote Originally Posted by username474:

      sam grisom,or something close to that.

     

    or somethin like Samson Grizzlenowski

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by username474:

      sam grisom,or something close to that.

    Marquis's brother ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by username474:

      sam grisom,or something close to that.

    Marquis's brother ?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2008 - 5:36 PM ET #14

    hellmuth is entertaining that is for sure, the sad thing is there is a lot of merit in what he says, but no one takes him seriously cuz he acts like such a jagoff.
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    hellmuth is entertaining that is for sure, the sad thing is there is a lot of merit in what he says, but no one takes him seriously cuz he acts like such a jagoff.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 4:49 AM ET #15

    I think there was also a 10-4 hand that Dragomir called him down with.....Thats was classic

    "IDIOT"!!!!
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    I think there was also a 10-4 hand that Dragomir called him down with.....Thats was classic

    "IDIOT"!!!!
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