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    Does anyone here Honestly win at Online Poker?

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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2010 - 7:56 PM ET #1

    I was curious if someone can say they honestly win on online poker. I Do really well in real life because I can see peoples body language but obviously you cant see that through a computer. If you do win, what is it that you do? Thanks in advance.
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    I was curious if someone can say they honestly win on online poker. I Do really well in real life because I can see peoples body language but obviously you cant see that through a computer. If you do win, what is it that you do? Thanks in advance.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2010 - 10:30 PM ET #2

    Go to 2+2 gambling forum. Endless amount of info
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2010 - 10:45 PM ET #3

    Ya i win online. What do I do you ask? Play solid poker
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    Ya i win online. What do I do you ask? Play solid poker
     
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    i can usually build up my bankroll, but im such a compulsive gambler i can lose it all in one hand, cause its not like your at casino and get up and cash your chips in and leave.i usually deposit 30-50 dollars and can get up to 6-700 dollars but im so greedy i dont want to cash out cause it doesnt seem like that much money to me, and start playing in higher stakes games. you can win if your disciplined, but there are so many bad beats online it comes down to luck at the end, how many times i had player dominated and then 4 card flush comes out on board. meanwhile you have high pockets and the idiot that called has like 7-k off suit or some mediocre hand , calls your all in preflop   but catches the flush. cause there are 4 suits on board. thats the shit you got to expect when playing online.

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    i can usually build up my bankroll, but im such a compulsive gambler i can lose it all in one hand, cause its not like your at casino and get up and cash your chips in and leave.i usually deposit 30-50 dollars and can get up to 6-700 dollars but im so greedy i dont want to cash out cause it doesnt seem like that much money to me, and start playing in higher stakes games. you can win if your disciplined, but there are so many bad beats online it comes down to luck at the end, how many times i had player dominated and then 4 card flush comes out on board. meanwhile you have high pockets and the idiot that called has like 7-k off suit or some mediocre hand , calls your all in preflop   but catches the flush. cause there are 4 suits on board. thats the shit you got to expect when playing online.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 3:33 AM ET #5

    Ok I dont know how to double quote and blah blah so sorry this is gonna take a few posts but . . . .

     

    Lemme show you the typical losing players attitude towards online poker and why Im such a dick to you guys because you make excuses as to why you lose online when its your own fault

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    Ok I dont know how to double quote and blah blah so sorry this is gonna take a few posts but . . . .

     

    Lemme show you the typical losing players attitude towards online poker and why Im such a dick to you guys because you make excuses as to why you lose online when its your own fault

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 3:34 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by birdman11:

    i can usually build up my bankroll, but im such a compulsive gambler i can lose it all in one hand, cause its not like your at casino and get up and cash your chips in and leave.i usually deposit 30-50 dollars and can get up to 6-700 dollars but im so greedy i dont want to cash out cause it doesnt seem like that much money to me, and start playing in higher stakes games. you can win if your disciplined,

     

     

    Exactly, so he does OK but then he gets greedy, plays above his comfort zone and gives it all back. Ok, so whats the problem here???

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman11:

    i can usually build up my bankroll, but im such a compulsive gambler i can lose it all in one hand, cause its not like your at casino and get up and cash your chips in and leave.i usually deposit 30-50 dollars and can get up to 6-700 dollars but im so greedy i dont want to cash out cause it doesnt seem like that much money to me, and start playing in higher stakes games. you can win if your disciplined,

     

     

    Exactly, so he does OK but then he gets greedy, plays above his comfort zone and gives it all back. Ok, so whats the problem here???

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 3:36 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by birdman11:

    but there are so many bad beats online it comes down to luck at the end, how many times i had player dominated and then 4 card flush comes out on board. meanwhile you have high pockets and the idiot that called has like 7-k off suit or some mediocre hand , calls your all in preflop   but catches the flush. cause there are 4 suits on board. thats the shit you got to expect when playing online.

     

     

    But then again here comes the excuses. So right after detailing his terrible money management + why he loses he all of a sudden realizes that he's "looking in the mirror" in regards to his poor poker ewsults and makes a foolish, false, excuse making claim.

     

    Thanks for your wonderful insight about the online game bridman. Stick to Nuggets basketball braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman11:

    but there are so many bad beats online it comes down to luck at the end, how many times i had player dominated and then 4 card flush comes out on board. meanwhile you have high pockets and the idiot that called has like 7-k off suit or some mediocre hand , calls your all in preflop   but catches the flush. cause there are 4 suits on board. thats the shit you got to expect when playing online.

     

     

    But then again here comes the excuses. So right after detailing his terrible money management + why he loses he all of a sudden realizes that he's "looking in the mirror" in regards to his poor poker ewsults and makes a foolish, false, excuse making claim.

     

    Thanks for your wonderful insight about the online game bridman. Stick to Nuggets basketball braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 3:38 PM ET #8

    Thanks for the replies.

     It is good to hear that it is possible because I do enjoy playing it, so I just need to concentrate on playing better poker. When online I tend to think everyone is bluffing and call hands that I shouldn't. That is something I have to work on.

    Lapdance, is there anything you need to work on?

     Also Birdman, good luck in the future and remember when you are up just stay patient.

     Oh ya what sites do yall play?

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    Thanks for the replies.

     It is good to hear that it is possible because I do enjoy playing it, so I just need to concentrate on playing better poker. When online I tend to think everyone is bluffing and call hands that I shouldn't. That is something I have to work on.

    Lapdance, is there anything you need to work on?

     Also Birdman, good luck in the future and remember when you are up just stay patient.

     Oh ya what sites do yall play?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2010 - 5:57 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfisch:

    Lapdance, is there anything you need to work on?

     Oh ya what sites do yall play?

     

    My whole problem is getting time to play as much as Id like/need to. I have a 3yr old kid that takes up a lot of my time so I find myself only with like 3 nites/week to play which is an issue.

     

    But I know you didnt mean personal problems but playing problems. The biggest problems/mistakes I see people making online is bluffing, wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much of it. 99% of the people playing/talking in this forum are gonna be playing the meduim-microstakes games (basically $30 and under buy-in for tourneys and .50c/$1 blinds for cash). The bottom line is, in these games all you have to do to beat them is play solid tight-aggressive pretty much ABC poker and you'll beat these games. The players at this level simply are too loose and too shitty as a whole to make bluffing profitable, yet all I see is guys just trying to take down EVERY FUCKING pot with nothing for no apparent reason other than "I heard you gotta be aggro." People also dont like to hear this cuz it means you gotta play "boring." Well guess what, boring wins and "exciting" loses so you make the choice. That is the #1 mistake I see everyone making at these games. You'll get paid off EVERY time you hit a hand basically so why go start bluffing loose players who will call you down with any piece??

     

    As you move up and it gets harder to get paid off on your good hands then you have to "mix it up" a little to stay ahead. But as long as youre consistently getting paid off with your good hands bluffing just isnt profitable.

     

    Now Im not necessarily saying "OMG just dont ever bluff" but just be careful. In other words, dont 3-barrell J5 offsuit and lose half your stack just cuz "you thought he was weak." Take a stab here and there and shut down if you meet resistance. Like I said, you may feel like a box having to back down in some pots but thats how you win. You dont HAVE to win every pot youre in. Yet some feel you do. I know a lot of this advice sounds "weak tight" and some of it is but Ijust feel more players would win more, sooner, if they started on the weak-tight end of the spectrum instead of the loose-aggro one.

     

    You simply do not need to be doing much more than playing rock solid tight poker to beat these levels IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfisch:

    Lapdance, is there anything you need to work on?

     Oh ya what sites do yall play?

     

    My whole problem is getting time to play as much as Id like/need to. I have a 3yr old kid that takes up a lot of my time so I find myself only with like 3 nites/week to play which is an issue.

     

    But I know you didnt mean personal problems but playing problems. The biggest problems/mistakes I see people making online is bluffing, wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much of it. 99% of the people playing/talking in this forum are gonna be playing the meduim-microstakes games (basically $30 and under buy-in for tourneys and .50c/$1 blinds for cash). The bottom line is, in these games all you have to do to beat them is play solid tight-aggressive pretty much ABC poker and you'll beat these games. The players at this level simply are too loose and too shitty as a whole to make bluffing profitable, yet all I see is guys just trying to take down EVERY FUCKING pot with nothing for no apparent reason other than "I heard you gotta be aggro." People also dont like to hear this cuz it means you gotta play "boring." Well guess what, boring wins and "exciting" loses so you make the choice. That is the #1 mistake I see everyone making at these games. You'll get paid off EVERY time you hit a hand basically so why go start bluffing loose players who will call you down with any piece??

     

    As you move up and it gets harder to get paid off on your good hands then you have to "mix it up" a little to stay ahead. But as long as youre consistently getting paid off with your good hands bluffing just isnt profitable.

     

    Now Im not necessarily saying "OMG just dont ever bluff" but just be careful. In other words, dont 3-barrell J5 offsuit and lose half your stack just cuz "you thought he was weak." Take a stab here and there and shut down if you meet resistance. Like I said, you may feel like a box having to back down in some pots but thats how you win. You dont HAVE to win every pot youre in. Yet some feel you do. I know a lot of this advice sounds "weak tight" and some of it is but Ijust feel more players would win more, sooner, if they started on the weak-tight end of the spectrum instead of the loose-aggro one.

     

    You simply do not need to be doing much more than playing rock solid tight poker to beat these levels IMO

     
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    Go figure.  The blowhard, know-it-all loser, Chance P(eabrain) and his new alias of "LapdanceJockey" were banned.  Good work, Covers moderators.   
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2010 - 6:28 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfisch:

    I was curious if someone can say they honestly win on online poker. I Do really well in real life because I can see peoples body language but obviously you cant see that through a computer. If you do win, what is it that you do? Thanks in advance.

    At Pokerfan finished 2nd a few times and built 90 bucks into 500 bucks but lost 350 of it been on a down swing of late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfisch:

    I was curious if someone can say they honestly win on online poker. I Do really well in real life because I can see peoples body language but obviously you cant see that through a computer. If you do win, what is it that you do? Thanks in advance.

    At Pokerfan finished 2nd a few times and built 90 bucks into 500 bucks but lost 350 of it been on a down swing of late.

     
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    birdman is right on! ,,,,, the software is written by humans, it's goal is to finally get your roll,,,,, it will spit out enough stupid asz bad beats to do this,,, also most times the player that puts this retarded shiit on you is'nt a real person but an electronic house player,(bot) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, as far as random cards falling remember this, before a flop, turn or river card falls the software has to know whats already been dealt out to prevent a duplicate card slipping out,,,, the hands are staged boys, most are little worthless pots and rake makers but they have enough programmed into the software to finally take down 99.9% of all players,,,,,,,, are there winners?,,,, no doubt some players will have the benifit of a lucky account and will be allowed to slowly move up in limits,,,,,, this is by design though as these few players are used to bring in more unsuspecting pimple faced high school and college boys that have zero chance of being a winner in the long run! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, find a different hobby kids! , you'll have more fun and be happier in the long run!  
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    birdman is right on! ,,,,, the software is written by humans, it's goal is to finally get your roll,,,,, it will spit out enough stupid asz bad beats to do this,,, also most times the player that puts this retarded shiit on you is'nt a real person but an electronic house player,(bot) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, as far as random cards falling remember this, before a flop, turn or river card falls the software has to know whats already been dealt out to prevent a duplicate card slipping out,,,, the hands are staged boys, most are little worthless pots and rake makers but they have enough programmed into the software to finally take down 99.9% of all players,,,,,,,, are there winners?,,,, no doubt some players will have the benifit of a lucky account and will be allowed to slowly move up in limits,,,,,, this is by design though as these few players are used to bring in more unsuspecting pimple faced high school and college boys that have zero chance of being a winner in the long run! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, find a different hobby kids! , you'll have more fun and be happier in the long run!  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2010 - 5:06 PM ET #13

    why people lose is that they are recreational players

    the pros on these sites, even at as low limits like 0.25/0.50 are the ones who win because they spend 25 hours a day working on their game...so of course they will be better than (and win the money of) all the rec players
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    why people lose is that they are recreational players

    the pros on these sites, even at as low limits like 0.25/0.50 are the ones who win because they spend 25 hours a day working on their game...so of course they will be better than (and win the money of) all the rec players
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Congruency:

    why people lose is that they are recreational players

    the pros on these sites, even at as low limits like 0.25/0.50 are the ones who win because they spend 25 hours a day working on their game...so of course they will be better than (and win the money of) all the rec players

    Tell us sir how to work on this,,,,,,,,, i get pocket kings, i raise 4 blinds, get 1 caller, flop comes K 4 8 rainbow, he checks, i bet the pot, he reraises, i reraise all in, he calls, turn brings a 7, river brings a 10,,,, he has J 9 offsuit to runner runner the pot and win! Shit hands like this happen over and over online, after a while you will finally discover you're playing against bots in hands like these,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, online is rigged bullshiit,,,,,,,,, work on your game 25 hours a day but if they decide they want to rip your ass off there aint shiit you can do except quit sending those fkn monkeys your hard earned dollars! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so to some it up Congruency, you're either a tout for an internet poker site or you're just fkn ignorant!, either way you can kiss my fkn asss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Congruency:

    why people lose is that they are recreational players

    the pros on these sites, even at as low limits like 0.25/0.50 are the ones who win because they spend 25 hours a day working on their game...so of course they will be better than (and win the money of) all the rec players

    Tell us sir how to work on this,,,,,,,,, i get pocket kings, i raise 4 blinds, get 1 caller, flop comes K 4 8 rainbow, he checks, i bet the pot, he reraises, i reraise all in, he calls, turn brings a 7, river brings a 10,,,, he has J 9 offsuit to runner runner the pot and win! Shit hands like this happen over and over online, after a while you will finally discover you're playing against bots in hands like these,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, online is rigged bullshiit,,,,,,,,, work on your game 25 hours a day but if they decide they want to rip your ass off there aint shiit you can do except quit sending those fkn monkeys your hard earned dollars! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so to some it up Congruency, you're either a tout for an internet poker site or you're just fkn ignorant!, either way you can kiss my fkn asss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2010 - 5:26 AM ET #15

    lol

    i dont argue with losing poker players, its not worth my time

    keep donating to the good players, thanks


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    lol

    i dont argue with losing poker players, its not worth my time

    keep donating to the good players, thanks


     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2010 - 5:29 AM ET #16

    also that hand is a bad beat, but you wont say the times youve put a beat on people lol...it happens to everyone, youre not the first person to get a big hand cracked

    also i can tell you know almost nothing about poker

    "i bet the pot, he reraises"

    LOLOLOLOL...how can he REraise if you never raised?? its supposed to be "I bet, he RAISED"...not reraised

    anyway go back to your 10 cent/20 cent games...im sure Pokerstars has a reason to rig those games hahahaha...im sure theyre just waiting to grab your $2 buy in LMAO

    what a donkey
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    also that hand is a bad beat, but you wont say the times youve put a beat on people lol...it happens to everyone, youre not the first person to get a big hand cracked

    also i can tell you know almost nothing about poker

    "i bet the pot, he reraises"

    LOLOLOLOL...how can he REraise if you never raised?? its supposed to be "I bet, he RAISED"...not reraised

    anyway go back to your 10 cent/20 cent games...im sure Pokerstars has a reason to rig those games hahahaha...im sure theyre just waiting to grab your $2 buy in LMAO

    what a donkey
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2010 - 7:52 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Congruency:

    also that hand is a bad beat, but you wont say the times youve put a beat on people lol...it happens to everyone, youre not the first person to get a big hand cracked

    also i can tell you know almost nothing about poker

    "i bet the pot, he reraises"

    LOLOLOLOL...how can he REraise if you never raised?? its supposed to be "I bet, he RAISED"...not reraised

    anyway go back to your 10 cent/20 cent games...im sure Pokerstars has a reason to rig those games hahahaha...im sure theyre just waiting to grab your $2 buy in LMAO

    what a donkey

    well, you know what the fk i meant to say,,,,,,,,,,,, obvious you're a fkn nasty little tout for that bullshit, which site do you work for asshole! ,,,,,,,,,,,, also try talking your little bullshit in a bar to someone who knows it's rigged and i'm pretty sure you'll walk out the door toothless!  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Congruency:

    also that hand is a bad beat, but you wont say the times youve put a beat on people lol...it happens to everyone, youre not the first person to get a big hand cracked

    also i can tell you know almost nothing about poker

    "i bet the pot, he reraises"

    LOLOLOLOL...how can he REraise if you never raised?? its supposed to be "I bet, he RAISED"...not reraised

    anyway go back to your 10 cent/20 cent games...im sure Pokerstars has a reason to rig those games hahahaha...im sure theyre just waiting to grab your $2 buy in LMAO

    what a donkey

    well, you know what the fk i meant to say,,,,,,,,,,,, obvious you're a fkn nasty little tout for that bullshit, which site do you work for asshole! ,,,,,,,,,,,, also try talking your little bullshit in a bar to someone who knows it's rigged and i'm pretty sure you'll walk out the door toothless!  

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2010 - 8:01 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Congruency:

    lol

    i dont argue with losing poker players, its not worth my time

    keep donating to the good players, thanks


    and another thing you nasty little shill,  your bullshiit poker sites will never see another dime from me! ,,,,,,,,,,,, it's going to take a few years but we're going to see some nasty shit come down from the internet poker world, those nasty fkers have been under a miro scope for months now and it's just a matter of time before the arrest and prison terms begin! ,,,,,, this coming from a very credible guest speaker at a town hall meeting i attended several weeks ago! like it or lump it, it's money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Congruency:

    lol

    i dont argue with losing poker players, its not worth my time

    keep donating to the good players, thanks


    and another thing you nasty little shill,  your bullshiit poker sites will never see another dime from me! ,,,,,,,,,,,, it's going to take a few years but we're going to see some nasty shit come down from the internet poker world, those nasty fkers have been under a miro scope for months now and it's just a matter of time before the arrest and prison terms begin! ,,,,,, this coming from a very credible guest speaker at a town hall meeting i attended several weeks ago! like it or lump it, it's money!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2010 - 4:50 PM ET #19

    LOL

    well, good for your own sake that you wont be redepositing...better keep that money in your wallet rather than someone else's account...because thats where its gonna end up going

    im not a shill, im NOT recommending you deposit online...mainly because you suck at poker and you should keep that money for other things you need

    i just gotta laugh at these losing players, who spend NO TIME AT ALL working on their game, and when they lose money, claim its rigged hahahahahah.....and think that theyre the only ones in the world who get runner-runnered or 1-outed. News flash: it happens to everyone who has ever played the game

    Then they think that all online poker is like this because they play approx. 30 hands of online poker per year

    its similar to why squares cant win at sports betting, they spend no time working on their craft, and just pick teams based on the gut feelings they have, and eventually lose....sadly these people will never learn

    every game/profession is like this, the better you are at what you do, the more successful you will be...but hey, keep claiming its rigged while the better players end up taking the $$$$ lolololol
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    LOL

    well, good for your own sake that you wont be redepositing...better keep that money in your wallet rather than someone else's account...because thats where its gonna end up going

    im not a shill, im NOT recommending you deposit online...mainly because you suck at poker and you should keep that money for other things you need

    i just gotta laugh at these losing players, who spend NO TIME AT ALL working on their game, and when they lose money, claim its rigged hahahahahah.....and think that theyre the only ones in the world who get runner-runnered or 1-outed. News flash: it happens to everyone who has ever played the game

    Then they think that all online poker is like this because they play approx. 30 hands of online poker per year

    its similar to why squares cant win at sports betting, they spend no time working on their craft, and just pick teams based on the gut feelings they have, and eventually lose....sadly these people will never learn

    every game/profession is like this, the better you are at what you do, the more successful you will be...but hey, keep claiming its rigged while the better players end up taking the $$$$ lolololol
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2010 - 10:32 PM ET #20

    stupid ass newbie!
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    stupid ass newbie!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2010 - 10:41 PM ET #21

    lol im a newbie?

    ive been winning at online poker for 4 years, and you dont win at all

    whos really the newbie?

    plus, good job addressing my points...theres a reason why you have no response to them, they are right

    but hey, damn that full tilt for rigging your games so they can take your $5 buy in

    in sports betting, theyre called squares....in poker, people like you are called FISH or DONKS

    gg
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    lol im a newbie?

    ive been winning at online poker for 4 years, and you dont win at all

    whos really the newbie?

    plus, good job addressing my points...theres a reason why you have no response to them, they are right

    but hey, damn that full tilt for rigging your games so they can take your $5 buy in

    in sports betting, theyre called squares....in poker, people like you are called FISH or DONKS

    gg
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2010 - 10:44 PM ET #22

    also this is a reason why poker is so profitable

    because fish like you spend no time learning, or reviewing their game...and show up to the table thinking you know everything about the game....i can just imagine you watching it on TV and saying "poker is such an easy game" hahahhahah

    its people like you who keep the poker economy running...so for that i say thank you lololololol...and im sure many players at your limits say the same
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    also this is a reason why poker is so profitable

    because fish like you spend no time learning, or reviewing their game...and show up to the table thinking you know everything about the game....i can just imagine you watching it on TV and saying "poker is such an easy game" hahahhahah

    its people like you who keep the poker economy running...so for that i say thank you lololololol...and im sure many players at your limits say the same
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2010 - 10:53 PM ET #23

    FoolishTool..

    a good win % when capping is somewhere around 60%, correct? the same is true when playing poker. i'm sure you're aware that aces (or kings like you referred to) aren't a guaranteed win. it's all about ABC poker, position and volume. also, if you aren't regularly working on your game, you are without a doubt a losing player. it's like saying you could pick up a golf club after having not played for x amount of time and immediately dominate your peers - i.e. tiger. there are millions of examples that could be used. you have to crawl before you walk.

    use some logic, dude. all of congruency's points are absolutely valid. and this is coming from a marginally winning player who hardly works on his game.

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    FoolishTool..

    a good win % when capping is somewhere around 60%, correct? the same is true when playing poker. i'm sure you're aware that aces (or kings like you referred to) aren't a guaranteed win. it's all about ABC poker, position and volume. also, if you aren't regularly working on your game, you are without a doubt a losing player. it's like saying you could pick up a golf club after having not played for x amount of time and immediately dominate your peers - i.e. tiger. there are millions of examples that could be used. you have to crawl before you walk.

    use some logic, dude. all of congruency's points are absolutely valid. and this is coming from a marginally winning player who hardly works on his game.

     
     
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