that was crazy, i can see the guy that lost the hand betting like that cause he was trying to buy the pot, but the caller with the 4 6 , thats rediculous, maybe they knew each other and where doing something shady to clean the money, thats really the only thing i can think of, you got to think a pair of 4's is beat with either the Ace, Queen , or pockets
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that was crazy, i can see the guy that lost the hand betting like that cause he was trying to buy the pot, but the caller with the 4 6 , thats rediculous, maybe they knew each other and where doing something shady to clean the money, thats really the only thing i can think of, you got to think a pair of 4's is beat with either the Ace, Queen , or pockets
PF: this hand is SB and BB fighting over the fish on the button, it goes into a pissing match that BB wins PF.
Flop: Standard monkey sized CB done 100% and meaning next to nothing so SB floats looking for a sign of weakness to steal later.
Turn: Check/Check this tells the SB to ship any river because he has seen the sign of weakness he was looking for.
River: Jam/call
The Jam has been explained.
the CALL:when SB flat calls the 6b OOP you can rule out 95% of amazing hands, any Ax or broadway hand will either not be played that way or will be played that way and jammed. any pair that gets to this spot will also be jammed. there is the possibility he is trapping but it is the much less likely. Both players know this and know that the other player knows this. it is the classic I know you know I know that and I know you know I know that level. Basically at this level you should look to take up PLO.
All that being said they both also know that each will be CBing and floating super light and looking to make plays. Basically BB assigned SB a random hand and on the river 64d vs a random is 49.4% and he is clearly getting the correct odds to call.
I went one step further and removed every Ax hand and any pair, I even left in 8x and 64d is now 59.9%.
To make this a snap call BB probably feels that SB would Check Jam any pair on the flop and can never have an Ace. this rules out an 8 and we already ruled out a broadway hand. Hitting the 4 on the river is a lot more like making top pair against a villain who can not have a pair or a straight.
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PF: this hand is SB and BB fighting over the fish on the button, it goes into a pissing match that BB wins PF.
Flop: Standard monkey sized CB done 100% and meaning next to nothing so SB floats looking for a sign of weakness to steal later.
Turn: Check/Check this tells the SB to ship any river because he has seen the sign of weakness he was looking for.
River: Jam/call
The Jam has been explained.
the CALL:when SB flat calls the 6b OOP you can rule out 95% of amazing hands, any Ax or broadway hand will either not be played that way or will be played that way and jammed. any pair that gets to this spot will also be jammed. there is the possibility he is trapping but it is the much less likely. Both players know this and know that the other player knows this. it is the classic I know you know I know that and I know you know I know that level. Basically at this level you should look to take up PLO.
All that being said they both also know that each will be CBing and floating super light and looking to make plays. Basically BB assigned SB a random hand and on the river 64d vs a random is 49.4% and he is clearly getting the correct odds to call.
I went one step further and removed every Ax hand and any pair, I even left in 8x and 64d is now 59.9%.
To make this a snap call BB probably feels that SB would Check Jam any pair on the flop and can never have an Ace. this rules out an 8 and we already ruled out a broadway hand. Hitting the 4 on the river is a lot more like making top pair against a villain who can not have a pair or a straight.
I have some aruguments against what you said but you clearly made a case for calling on the river while not making it look as insane as I originally thought.
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I have some aruguments against what you said but you clearly made a case for calling on the river while not making it look as insane as I originally thought.