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    FloridaRays
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2012 - 12:30 AM ET #1

    im not talking about professionals of course but like just your average guy; what is your strategy daily and how do you achieve it; i know poker can be up and down but for example: if someone was trying to win 100-200 daily playing poker, what is your opinion on strategy?
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    im not talking about professionals of course but like just your average guy; what is your strategy daily and how do you achieve it; i know poker can be up and down but for example: if someone was trying to win 100-200 daily playing poker, what is your opinion on strategy?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2012 - 9:50 AM ET #2

    I'm guessing your in Florida? Go to the Casino on Friday,Saturday, and Sunday night's only and sit at the higher limit table where people play a lot looser. Like a 5/10 table. You need a bankroll of at least $1000-$2000. Only bring $400 each session you play. Watch the tables for at least 1 hour before playing to find where the loose players are. You can also play with a partner sitting at the table. Think about finding a partner and then starting a home game. That can be very profitable.
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    I'm guessing your in Florida? Go to the Casino on Friday,Saturday, and Sunday night's only and sit at the higher limit table where people play a lot looser. Like a 5/10 table. You need a bankroll of at least $1000-$2000. Only bring $400 each session you play. Watch the tables for at least 1 hour before playing to find where the loose players are. You can also play with a partner sitting at the table. Think about finding a partner and then starting a home game. That can be very profitable.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:33 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnybad:

    I'm guessing your in Florida? Go to the Casino on Friday,Saturday, and Sunday night's only and sit at the higher limit table where people play a lot looser. Like a 5/10 table. You need a bankroll of at least $1000-$2000. Only bring $400 each session you play. Watch the tables for at least 1 hour before playing to find where the loose players are. You can also play with a partner sitting at the table. Think about finding a partner and then starting a home game. That can be very profitable.

     Collusion and cheating.  I wish they would treat you like they did in the old Vegas and chop 1 of your fingers off with a meat cleaver. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnybad:

    I'm guessing your in Florida? Go to the Casino on Friday,Saturday, and Sunday night's only and sit at the higher limit table where people play a lot looser. Like a 5/10 table. You need a bankroll of at least $1000-$2000. Only bring $400 each session you play. Watch the tables for at least 1 hour before playing to find where the loose players are. You can also play with a partner sitting at the table. Think about finding a partner and then starting a home game. That can be very profitable.

     Collusion and cheating.  I wish they would treat you like they did in the old Vegas and chop 1 of your fingers off with a meat cleaver. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 9:48 PM ET #4

    come on Johnny. Wtf? 
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    come on Johnny. Wtf? 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2012 - 11:41 AM ET #5

     Collusion and cheating.  I wish they would treat you like they did in the old Vegas and chop 1 of your fingers off with a meat cleaver. 
    Now you're talking Wiz. Poker players are mostly assholes, while cheating poker players are total SCUMBAGS!!
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     Collusion and cheating.  I wish they would treat you like they did in the old Vegas and chop 1 of your fingers off with a meat cleaver. 
    Now you're talking Wiz. Poker players are mostly assholes, while cheating poker players are total SCUMBAGS!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2012 - 5:14 PM ET #6

    I usually play a few times a week or some friday/saturday nights depending on the action. I play the $300(max buy) buyin which is $2-$5 blinds and $500(max buy) $5-$10 buyin. Even though the max is only 300 or 500 people re buy very often and the action is nuts. Sometimes theres over $10k worth of chips on $300 table. 

    I usually bring 2 buyins. If i double up i tighten up a little bit and see if i can go on a rush of cards if not i'll probably leave in the next hour. But my goal everyday is to leave with at least one double up. If i lose both buys i'll try again next time( which hasnt happened yet *knocking on wood* ). 
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    I usually play a few times a week or some friday/saturday nights depending on the action. I play the $300(max buy) buyin which is $2-$5 blinds and $500(max buy) $5-$10 buyin. Even though the max is only 300 or 500 people re buy very often and the action is nuts. Sometimes theres over $10k worth of chips on $300 table. 

    I usually bring 2 buyins. If i double up i tighten up a little bit and see if i can go on a rush of cards if not i'll probably leave in the next hour. But my goal everyday is to leave with at least one double up. If i lose both buys i'll try again next time( which hasnt happened yet *knocking on wood* ). 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2012 - 5:18 PM ET #7

    Jamie Gold sometimes play in these games and honestly i've never seen him win.
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    Jamie Gold sometimes play in these games and honestly i've never seen him win.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2012 - 9:32 PM ET #8

    Thats weak johnny, WEAK...  That's y online poker is so sketchy.
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    Thats weak johnny, WEAK...  That's y online poker is so sketchy.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2012 - 8:35 PM ET #9

    If you're looking to pickup $100-200 daily it sounds like you're playing $1-2 NL Hold'em. Playing a higher limit just to pickup $100-200 wouldn't make sense. 

    That being said you can easily pickup $100-200 a day playing $1-2 NL. Stick to playing premium hands and look for the right spots to pickup a small pot or 2. At this level don't worry so much about putting a move or two on anyone. At showdown just have the winner. With any bit of luck you'll develop a reputation and get shown too much respect which opens the door to stealing a few pots. Set yourself a daily win and loss limit. Money management is key! When I played for income I used to stick to the 6-8 hours a day rule or 2 buy-ins whichever came first.
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    If you're looking to pickup $100-200 daily it sounds like you're playing $1-2 NL Hold'em. Playing a higher limit just to pickup $100-200 wouldn't make sense. 

    That being said you can easily pickup $100-200 a day playing $1-2 NL. Stick to playing premium hands and look for the right spots to pickup a small pot or 2. At this level don't worry so much about putting a move or two on anyone. At showdown just have the winner. With any bit of luck you'll develop a reputation and get shown too much respect which opens the door to stealing a few pots. Set yourself a daily win and loss limit. Money management is key! When I played for income I used to stick to the 6-8 hours a day rule or 2 buy-ins whichever came first.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2012 - 6:15 PM ET #10

    good advice mokando
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    good advice mokando
     
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    Posted: Aug. 31, 2012 - 4:32 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by mokando:

    If you're looking to pickup $100-200 daily it sounds like you're playing $1-2 NL Hold'em. Playing a higher limit just to pickup $100-200 wouldn't make sense. 

    That being said you can easily pickup $100-200 a day playing $1-2 NL. 

    The first paragraph had a dose of reality to it.  However, the second part about being easy had me spitting up my soda and laughing hysterically.  

    In summation, just play solid poker with premium hands and the money will just keep rolling in.  LMFAO!!!  
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    Quote Originally Posted by mokando:

    If you're looking to pickup $100-200 daily it sounds like you're playing $1-2 NL Hold'em. Playing a higher limit just to pickup $100-200 wouldn't make sense. 

    That being said you can easily pickup $100-200 a day playing $1-2 NL. 

    The first paragraph had a dose of reality to it.  However, the second part about being easy had me spitting up my soda and laughing hysterically.  

    In summation, just play solid poker with premium hands and the money will just keep rolling in.  LMFAO!!!  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 31, 2012 - 7:32 AM ET #12

    I would concur with that statement..... if u play premium hands and put ur money in when u are a big favorite, you should win much more than u lose. Bad beats happen, but people lose their money chasing far more than bad beats
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    I would concur with that statement..... if u play premium hands and put ur money in when u are a big favorite, you should win much more than u lose. Bad beats happen, but people lose their money chasing far more than bad beats
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2012 - 7:36 PM ET #13

    IMPOSSIBLE to be a long term winner at $1-2 no limit. If there were no rake or dealer tips to deal with you could make a strong case for grinding out a small profit at the end of any particular month or year, with good, patient, intelligent play.

    Too many players will play any two cards at this weak level and the variance will kill you eventually no matter what premium hands you will chose to play. Add in the cost of the rake and tips and you get the picture.

    You will lose as many good hands as you win as nobody drops out for $2....If you raise with decent cards, they all fold and you win $3

    The house and the dealers wind up with all the money at the end  of the night when they count all the chips in the drop box.

    Sit at a table one time and just count all the chips pulled from the game that find their way into the drop box....Way too much money is taken from the game each hand that you as a player donate to the house coffers.

    Consider $1-2 NL as just entertainment money to be spent foolishly..You cannot possibly make a living at this game in the long run. Short term you may get lucky and win..You will eventually give it all back...plus your own hard earned cash.

     

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    IMPOSSIBLE to be a long term winner at $1-2 no limit. If there were no rake or dealer tips to deal with you could make a strong case for grinding out a small profit at the end of any particular month or year, with good, patient, intelligent play.

    Too many players will play any two cards at this weak level and the variance will kill you eventually no matter what premium hands you will chose to play. Add in the cost of the rake and tips and you get the picture.

    You will lose as many good hands as you win as nobody drops out for $2....If you raise with decent cards, they all fold and you win $3

    The house and the dealers wind up with all the money at the end  of the night when they count all the chips in the drop box.

    Sit at a table one time and just count all the chips pulled from the game that find their way into the drop box....Way too much money is taken from the game each hand that you as a player donate to the house coffers.

    Consider $1-2 NL as just entertainment money to be spent foolishly..You cannot possibly make a living at this game in the long run. Short term you may get lucky and win..You will eventually give it all back...plus your own hard earned cash.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2012 - 1:32 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    IMPOSSIBLE to be a long term winner at $1-2 no limit. If there were no rake or dealer tips to deal with you could make a strong case for grinding out a small profit at the end of any particular month or year, with good, patient, intelligent play.

    Too many players will play any two cards at this weak level and the variance will kill you eventually no matter what premium hands you will chose to play. Add in the cost of the rake and tips and you get the picture.

    You will lose as many good hands as you win as nobody drops out for $2....If you raise with decent cards, they all fold and you win $3

    The house and the dealers wind up with all the money at the end  of the night when they count all the chips in the drop box.

    Sit at a table one time and just count all the chips pulled from the game that find their way into the drop box....Way too much money is taken from the game each hand that you as a player donate to the house coffers.

    Consider $1-2 NL as just entertainment money to be spent foolishly..You cannot possibly make a living at this game in the long run. Short term you may get lucky and win..You will eventually give it all back...plus your own hard earned cash.

     

     Finally, someone else gets it!  I've been preaching this for years, as I once foolishly thought I could make a living off a stupid card game like Hold Em that anyone can eventually figure out how to play.  Poker is set up just like horse racing since the house does NOT care who wins the pot or the race, as they take their cut out EVERY time. 

    All gambling is a basically a losing long-term proposition for the player, but at least the house sweats big wagers on sports or blackjack, as they can lose HUGE money in the short-run. 

    And the only way you get ahead in poker in the long-run is to get lucky and win a huge tournament like the WSOP, then quit gambling completely and hope your investments pay off in other ventures like a diverse mutual fund portfolio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    IMPOSSIBLE to be a long term winner at $1-2 no limit. If there were no rake or dealer tips to deal with you could make a strong case for grinding out a small profit at the end of any particular month or year, with good, patient, intelligent play.

    Too many players will play any two cards at this weak level and the variance will kill you eventually no matter what premium hands you will chose to play. Add in the cost of the rake and tips and you get the picture.

    You will lose as many good hands as you win as nobody drops out for $2....If you raise with decent cards, they all fold and you win $3

    The house and the dealers wind up with all the money at the end  of the night when they count all the chips in the drop box.

    Sit at a table one time and just count all the chips pulled from the game that find their way into the drop box....Way too much money is taken from the game each hand that you as a player donate to the house coffers.

    Consider $1-2 NL as just entertainment money to be spent foolishly..You cannot possibly make a living at this game in the long run. Short term you may get lucky and win..You will eventually give it all back...plus your own hard earned cash.

     

     Finally, someone else gets it!  I've been preaching this for years, as I once foolishly thought I could make a living off a stupid card game like Hold Em that anyone can eventually figure out how to play.  Poker is set up just like horse racing since the house does NOT care who wins the pot or the race, as they take their cut out EVERY time. 

    All gambling is a basically a losing long-term proposition for the player, but at least the house sweats big wagers on sports or blackjack, as they can lose HUGE money in the short-run. 

    And the only way you get ahead in poker in the long-run is to get lucky and win a huge tournament like the WSOP, then quit gambling completely and hope your investments pay off in other ventures like a diverse mutual fund portfolio.

     
     
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    It's not that tough to make money to be honest with you. Of course some days you lose and some days you can win but it all matters on the player, situation, hand etc.  I used to play a  lot of online poker before these bs US laws took place and consistently I was taking out $1500 a month playing 6 hours a day for 5 days. Of course, it would be hard to make a living off that but I didn't have any payments during that time so it was good spending money. I had a 3-5 buyins max rule($300) and there was days where I had lost it in 3 hours. But there was days where i was just rolling, playing very confident, just outplaying the other guy and my roll just kept getting bigger and bigger. I was playing $50-70 dollar 6-10 people tourneys and I would start off playing really tight, bluffing some hands at the right spot then loosening up after i would 2x/3x my stack. Sometimes i would get "set hands"  and " set flops" (having AA, someone going all in, flop cracks you and you ose) to decide my fate but that's poker, it happens to everyone. You probably do that to somebody else the same amount you're beat in that way. Unfortunately after these laws i reduced playing online poker drastically because when I sat at a table in the casino, cash games and tournaments are 2 totally different games to me. You can be great at tourneys but cash games might not fit your style of playing. I personally loved playing tournaments but didn't have as much time going to a casino playing $50 buyin which would take 7 hours. Cash games, people tend to be playing more loose and can sometimes call with absolutely nothing just because they know they can rebuy in if they wanted to, but tournaments since they know they can get eliminated makes it tougher to pull a move.Again not in every situation but I believe that's one of the main differences between cash/tourneys games. That why i loved playing online before this nonsense because you can play 3-4 tournaments in 1.5 hours. You would see 40-50x more hands a hour compared to a casino 30 hands/hours approx. if that. So just find your game and see what your'e good at. Pretend your'e going with only 1 buyin and don't throw your money in a pot just because you have another buyin ready.. I used to go on a $40 table and sit with my 1 buyin for 4 hours... After 4 hours I would be up $2-300 waiting to leave or just being dead even after buying some food... But atleast i know that I was able to go with $40 and enjoy myself for 4 hours by not digging into my wallet. I would see people piss away money just re-buying and re-buying and finally they would have $200 in front of them after dumping at least $400 from their wallet....... Lastly the most important thing you need is PATIENCE.... My friends dad has been playing poker as an income for 20 years but hes not famous. He makes 70k a year playing in casinos and also played online a while ago. He buys in to the WTP every year but hasn't been too successful. I've never asked him or talked to him about how is poker habits or strategies are because if you have it inside you, you would come up with your own strategy since you know your own positives and weaknesses.
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    It's not that tough to make money to be honest with you. Of course some days you lose and some days you can win but it all matters on the player, situation, hand etc.  I used to play a  lot of online poker before these bs US laws took place and consistently I was taking out $1500 a month playing 6 hours a day for 5 days. Of course, it would be hard to make a living off that but I didn't have any payments during that time so it was good spending money. I had a 3-5 buyins max rule($300) and there was days where I had lost it in 3 hours. But there was days where i was just rolling, playing very confident, just outplaying the other guy and my roll just kept getting bigger and bigger. I was playing $50-70 dollar 6-10 people tourneys and I would start off playing really tight, bluffing some hands at the right spot then loosening up after i would 2x/3x my stack. Sometimes i would get "set hands"  and " set flops" (having AA, someone going all in, flop cracks you and you ose) to decide my fate but that's poker, it happens to everyone. You probably do that to somebody else the same amount you're beat in that way. Unfortunately after these laws i reduced playing online poker drastically because when I sat at a table in the casino, cash games and tournaments are 2 totally different games to me. You can be great at tourneys but cash games might not fit your style of playing. I personally loved playing tournaments but didn't have as much time going to a casino playing $50 buyin which would take 7 hours. Cash games, people tend to be playing more loose and can sometimes call with absolutely nothing just because they know they can rebuy in if they wanted to, but tournaments since they know they can get eliminated makes it tougher to pull a move.Again not in every situation but I believe that's one of the main differences between cash/tourneys games. That why i loved playing online before this nonsense because you can play 3-4 tournaments in 1.5 hours. You would see 40-50x more hands a hour compared to a casino 30 hands/hours approx. if that. So just find your game and see what your'e good at. Pretend your'e going with only 1 buyin and don't throw your money in a pot just because you have another buyin ready.. I used to go on a $40 table and sit with my 1 buyin for 4 hours... After 4 hours I would be up $2-300 waiting to leave or just being dead even after buying some food... But atleast i know that I was able to go with $40 and enjoy myself for 4 hours by not digging into my wallet. I would see people piss away money just re-buying and re-buying and finally they would have $200 in front of them after dumping at least $400 from their wallet....... Lastly the most important thing you need is PATIENCE.... My friends dad has been playing poker as an income for 20 years but hes not famous. He makes 70k a year playing in casinos and also played online a while ago. He buys in to the WTP every year but hasn't been too successful. I've never asked him or talked to him about how is poker habits or strategies are because if you have it inside you, you would come up with your own strategy since you know your own positives and weaknesses.
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