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    A Couple New Hold Em Games I Came Across

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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2009 - 1:37 AM ET #1

    Was playing online this week and ran across a couple different games. Both 10 person sit and go's.

    1st one was top 5 you win. Bottom 5 you lose. Top 5 all received double the buy in. They don't even play it out. Get to 5 and game is done!

    2nd one gave you 2 choices every hand. Either fold or go all in! Nothing else. Paid top 3.

    Hadn't seen these before. Cashed 3/4 in the 1st variation. All 3 after I came up with a game plan. Cashed in only game I played of the all-in variation.

    Wouldn't like to play these everyday but it was a fun change and absolutely unreal how stupid people continue to play when all you have to do his finish top 5. Think there could be some easy money to be made in these.


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    Was playing online this week and ran across a couple different games. Both 10 person sit and go's.

    1st one was top 5 you win. Bottom 5 you lose. Top 5 all received double the buy in. They don't even play it out. Get to 5 and game is done!

    2nd one gave you 2 choices every hand. Either fold or go all in! Nothing else. Paid top 3.

    Hadn't seen these before. Cashed 3/4 in the 1st variation. All 3 after I came up with a game plan. Cashed in only game I played of the all-in variation.

    Wouldn't like to play these everyday but it was a fun change and absolutely unreal how stupid people continue to play when all you have to do his finish top 5. Think there could be some easy money to be made in these.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2009 - 4:16 AM ET #2

    The 1st ones you played are called "double or nothings". Theyre real big on PokerStars right now. Its a cool concept I think and it seems to be getting TONS of action.

    Now the 2nd one "all-in or fold" Ive never heard of before but, being the gambler I am, i think thats fucking awesome. What site is this one on?
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    The 1st ones you played are called "double or nothings". Theyre real big on PokerStars right now. Its a cool concept I think and it seems to be getting TONS of action.

    Now the 2nd one "all-in or fold" Ive never heard of before but, being the gambler I am, i think thats fucking awesome. What site is this one on?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2009 - 5:17 PM ET #5

    these have been out for forever ... i do liek the double ups though ...your right when you say people will do the dumbest shit with 6 players left.. like call chip leader all in for 4500 when both of them have way more chips then anyone else... so your thinking top 2 cvhip leaders at tables when they fllip these over your gonna see aces vs kings. They flip the cards over and its pocket 5s up agaisnt q k suited
     
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    these have been out for forever ... i do liek the double ups though ...your right when you say people will do the dumbest shit with 6 players left.. like call chip leader all in for 4500 when both of them have way more chips then anyone else... so your thinking top 2 cvhip leaders at tables when they fllip these over your gonna see aces vs kings. They flip the cards over and its pocket 5s up agaisnt q k suited
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2009 - 3:18 PM ET #7

    Sorry. Obviously don't play a bunch online and this was 1st I'd seen them on that site.



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    Sorry. Obviously don't play a bunch online and this was 1st I'd seen them on that site.



     
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    I've been very profitable with the Double or Nothings for a while now.  I usually play two at a time.  It's amazing how you see the same people in the higher buy ins (50 or 100) all the time, and they never learn how to play these right.  When there are six people left, everyone is supposed to call the short stack when he goes all in.  Everyone.  If the short stack has 1500 and you have 1700, you still have to call if others do.  Once one person folds though, it becomes a chain reaction and everyone folds.  Just dumb.  If everyone calls, and the short stack wins the hand, so it goes.  You did the right thing. 
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    I've been very profitable with the Double or Nothings for a while now.  I usually play two at a time.  It's amazing how you see the same people in the higher buy ins (50 or 100) all the time, and they never learn how to play these right.  When there are six people left, everyone is supposed to call the short stack when he goes all in.  Everyone.  If the short stack has 1500 and you have 1700, you still have to call if others do.  Once one person folds though, it becomes a chain reaction and everyone folds.  Just dumb.  If everyone calls, and the short stack wins the hand, so it goes.  You did the right thing. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2009 - 7:42 PM ET #9

    Yeah. Some people are dumb. I got pissed at a guy the other day. Was down to 6. After the flop I had the nut flush. Just me and the chip leader in the hand. He kept re-raising me! I off course called his dumb ass and he ended up having nothing at all. I ripped the shit out of him the rest of the game. He went from chip leader to barely above the short stack when we were on the bubble.

    Danno I agree with your logic but will be hard pressed to find an entire table to go along with you.
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    Yeah. Some people are dumb. I got pissed at a guy the other day. Was down to 6. After the flop I had the nut flush. Just me and the chip leader in the hand. He kept re-raising me! I off course called his dumb ass and he ended up having nothing at all. I ripped the shit out of him the rest of the game. He went from chip leader to barely above the short stack when we were on the bubble.

    Danno I agree with your logic but will be hard pressed to find an entire table to go along with you.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I've been very profitable with the Double or Nothings for a while now.  I usually play two at a time.  It's amazing how you see the same people in the higher buy ins (50 or 100) all the time, and they never learn how to play these right.  When there are six people left, everyone is supposed to call the short stack when he goes all in.  Everyone.  If the short stack has 1500 and you have 1700, you still have to call if others do.  Once one person folds though, it becomes a chain reaction and everyone folds.  Just dumb.  If everyone calls, and the short stack wins the hand, so it goes.  You did the right thing. 

     

    great idea but peeps are bithces on there ... plus no 1 seems smart enough for any kinda advanced strategy

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I've been very profitable with the Double or Nothings for a while now.  I usually play two at a time.  It's amazing how you see the same people in the higher buy ins (50 or 100) all the time, and they never learn how to play these right.  When there are six people left, everyone is supposed to call the short stack when he goes all in.  Everyone.  If the short stack has 1500 and you have 1700, you still have to call if others do.  Once one person folds though, it becomes a chain reaction and everyone folds.  Just dumb.  If everyone calls, and the short stack wins the hand, so it goes.  You did the right thing. 

     

    great idea but peeps are bithces on there ... plus no 1 seems smart enough for any kinda advanced strategy

     
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    It's not really a great idea.  It's just basic.  People are just stupid.  Two things I saw yesterday in the double or nothing tourneys I played:
     
    -Blinds are 400/800 and there are six people left.  UTG moves all in for 725 (less than BB).  The next three people FOLD.  I call from SB with Q3o and BB checks.  They check it down and the UTG all-in guy wins with an ace high.  All those three idiots had to do was call the BB, and the tourney is over if anyone makes a pair.  Stupid.  Just dumb.  Two of them had over 2000 and one had about 1500.  The player with 1500 ended up losing.  Dumb.
     
    -Six people left and blinds are 150/300.  Short stack is on the button.  Folds to him and he moves all in for 1000.  I have 2500 left, and call with 56o.  BB is the big chip leader and he moves ALL IN for over 4000.  WTF?!  Dumbest play EVER.  We are down to 6 fn' people.  One more person out, and the rest of us win.  We have a guy all in.  Why are you protecting him?  Gotta be collusion, or stupidity.  Best part is, the guy in the BB had 99.  99!  WTF.  Button has KJ, and makes a pair of kings.  Final board had a 5 and 6 on it.  If this idiot would've just checked, the tourney would be over.  Instead, the button player now has over 3000 because he tripled up on a coin flip. 
     
    Even with all this nonsense, I've still been significant winner over the past six months in these tourneys.  Don't get me wrong, the dumb play benefits me at times too.  Not as often as it doesn't though. 
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    It's not really a great idea.  It's just basic.  People are just stupid.  Two things I saw yesterday in the double or nothing tourneys I played:
     
    -Blinds are 400/800 and there are six people left.  UTG moves all in for 725 (less than BB).  The next three people FOLD.  I call from SB with Q3o and BB checks.  They check it down and the UTG all-in guy wins with an ace high.  All those three idiots had to do was call the BB, and the tourney is over if anyone makes a pair.  Stupid.  Just dumb.  Two of them had over 2000 and one had about 1500.  The player with 1500 ended up losing.  Dumb.
     
    -Six people left and blinds are 150/300.  Short stack is on the button.  Folds to him and he moves all in for 1000.  I have 2500 left, and call with 56o.  BB is the big chip leader and he moves ALL IN for over 4000.  WTF?!  Dumbest play EVER.  We are down to 6 fn' people.  One more person out, and the rest of us win.  We have a guy all in.  Why are you protecting him?  Gotta be collusion, or stupidity.  Best part is, the guy in the BB had 99.  99!  WTF.  Button has KJ, and makes a pair of kings.  Final board had a 5 and 6 on it.  If this idiot would've just checked, the tourney would be over.  Instead, the button player now has over 3000 because he tripled up on a coin flip. 
     
    Even with all this nonsense, I've still been significant winner over the past six months in these tourneys.  Don't get me wrong, the dumb play benefits me at times too.  Not as often as it doesn't though. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

     

    great idea but peeps are bithces on there ... plus no 1 seems smart enough for any kinda advanced strategy

    its not a great idea, and its not advanced strategy....its standard etiquette. I must not be the only one who wants to choke someone when the cutoff [7players left?] for the chat occurs and someone plays like Suzy [precisely what danno mentioned]
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    great idea but peeps are bithces on there ... plus no 1 seems smart enough for any kinda advanced strategy

    its not a great idea, and its not advanced strategy....its standard etiquette. I must not be the only one who wants to choke someone when the cutoff [7players left?] for the chat occurs and someone plays like Suzy [precisely what danno mentioned]
     
     
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    QUOTE Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

     

    great idea but peeps are bithces on there ... plus no 1 seems smart enough for any kinda advanced strategy

    its not a great idea, and its not advanced strategy....its standard etiquette. I must not be the only one who wants to choke someone when the cutoff [7players left?] for the chat occurs and someone plays like Suzy [precisely what danno mentioned]
     
     
    Yes i was aggreeing with you both in theory... but people dont blame for eachother on there .. its hard to get people to do anything that helps bump out short stack as far as checkin to let all in hand be up agaisnt 3 instead of pushing all in with nothing gettting other hands to fold off and short stack winning? You see what im sayin there still profitable but could even be better
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    great idea but peeps are bithces on there ... plus no 1 seems smart enough for any kinda advanced strategy

    its not a great idea, and its not advanced strategy....its standard etiquette. I must not be the only one who wants to choke someone when the cutoff [7players left?] for the chat occurs and someone plays like Suzy [precisely what danno mentioned]
     
     
    Yes i was aggreeing with you both in theory... but people dont blame for eachother on there .. its hard to get people to do anything that helps bump out short stack as far as checkin to let all in hand be up agaisnt 3 instead of pushing all in with nothing gettting other hands to fold off and short stack winning? You see what im sayin there still profitable but could even be better
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