Trayvon the innocent do goody colored boy --- BS

Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

Sorry I am not trusting the report of a family physician. Zimmerman and his family are still saying the screams in the police call are Zimmerman even though forensic experts say it is a child's voice screaming for help.

If Zimmerman had all of those ailments he would not have refused to be checked out by medical personnel and EMC. He instead goes to a family physician the day after knowing he needed some evidence that would show self defense.

Don't think for one second he didnt consult his father and legal advice before going to his family physician for a check up.


So far the facts known are Zimmerman stalked Trayvon and followed him when instructed by police dispatch to not approach or follow the individual. Zimmerman forced Trayvon into a fight or flight natural response (as Trayvon felt he was in danger after being followed and chased). Zimmerman was the one who initiated and led to the incident occurring by disobeying police dispatchers advice to not approach. Trayvon was eventually shot and killed while being unarmed on a public street.

There is still facts and information that will come and be released. I would rather wait for everything. I still think Zimmerman deserves to be charged with manslaughter (2nd degree seems over the top unless this is more information that is sealed that will show 2nd degree intent). You cant be playing cops and robbers adn taking the law into your own hands when it is not on your property and the person you profile is not breaking any laws.

If Zimmerman left him be then none of this happens.

Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

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Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

14,

So what you're saying is that there is no evidence of 911 telling Zimmerman to stay at his residence. But there is evidence of Martin looking in people's windows? Also, that black people shouldn't be in that area?

And also that Zimmerman was within his rights to confront Martin anywhere, cause an altercation, get his ass pummeled, and then shoot Martin in self defense?

Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:



Right in front of his vehicle.......................

and

911 doesn't dictate what one can and can't do.

Perhaps TM should have called and they would have told him to get the fuck out of an area he doesn't belong and stop looking into people's windows.

Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

I don't know if there is any evidence that Martin was looking in windows. All I've seen is that Zimmeran said he was walking between the townhomes "looking suspicious" - that is open to interpretation.

Again, there is no evidence anywhere, at all, Zimmerman confronted Martin.

Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

Folks, it really doesn't matter if Zimmerman approached Martin.  If I punch a guy in a bar and he pulls out a knife and lunges at me, I have a right to pull my gun and shoot him.  Not I might face a charge on the original assault, but just because I started it doesn't mean I forfeit the right to defend myself if things escalate.  

Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

Hutch just wanted to bring up twice in one week that he's always packing.

Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

Im just glad that when u was 18 someone didnt assume you was up to something Hutch... chase you down and a fight ensued and you got the best of him and so he shoots you to death... im just glad ya know 

Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

Hutch, did zimmerman have proper training on carrying a concealed weapon? From everything I have heard on this, if he had he would have done everything possible from avoiding a situation in which he had to use it. From what I am reading/hearing it seemed like Zimmerman took on a roll that no one granted him an exercised some authority he didn't really have.

Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

And yes, Zimmerman made some stupid choices.  But the question is, were they illegal choices.  We will find out. Him going up to Martin and to confront him was not illegal (even though he was ADVISED not to do so).

Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

SANFORD, Fla. --Trayvon Martin, the Florida teen shot and killed by former neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman in February, had drugs in his system at the time of his death, ABC News reported Thursday.

Martin's autopsy report shows traces of the drug THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, were found in Martin's blood and urine, according to ABC News.

The report came shortly after prosecutors announced they would be releasing hundreds of documents in the case to the public Thursday.

Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

Sorry I am not trusting the report of a family physician. Zimmerman and his family are still saying the screams in the police call are Zimmerman even though forensic experts say it is a child's voice screaming for help.

If Zimmerman had all of those ailments he would not have refused to be checked out by medical personnel and EMC. He instead goes to a family physician the day after knowing he needed some evidence that would show self defense.

Don't think for one second he didnt consult his father and legal advice before going to his family physician for a check up.


So far the facts known are Zimmerman stalked Trayvon and followed him when instructed by police dispatch to not approach or follow the individual. Zimmerman forced Trayvon into a fight or flight natural response (as Trayvon felt he was in danger after being followed and chased). Zimmerman was the one who initiated and led to the incident occurring by disobeying police dispatchers advice to not approach. Trayvon was eventually shot and killed while being unarmed on a public street.

There is still facts and information that will come and be released. I would rather wait for everything. I still think Zimmerman deserves to be charged with manslaughter (2nd degree seems over the top unless this is more information that is sealed that will show 2nd degree intent). You cant be playing cops and robbers adn taking the law into your own hands when it is not on your property and the person you profile is not breaking any laws.

If Zimmerman left him be then none of this happens.

Quote Originally Posted by jpero:



Weed stays in your system for 30 days. Means absolutely nothing. WOW a 17 year old, or how ever old, smoked marijuana. OMG call the authorities. Get your Lorcin 380s out and eliminate all these teens who smoke weed.