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BigBadBlove

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Posted: Mar. 25, 2009 - 4:54 PM ET #26

this guy sends an email today about his 'enhanced system' where you only have to pay an extra $115 when he already said the original $200 was for a lifetime of picks. Love the integrity. I'll skip out on the +1.5 and play the dog if its a good spot and lay the juice w- the fav when they are the better team.

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ej06

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Posted: Mar. 26, 2009 - 4:50 AM ET #27

S_A_I_N_T_S

Can you please enlighten me on your Black Belt system? I have requested to be your friend. Thank you.

-ej06-

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jv040

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Posted: Mar. 26, 2009 - 8:12 AM ET #28

john morrison system is east to west or west to east,

fade the home team.

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jv040

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Posted: Mar. 26, 2009 - 9:09 AM ET #29

I also want info on the black belt system why not just post it here.

thx

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Punch_theBookie

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Posted: Mar. 26, 2009 - 9:36 AM ET #30

Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:

Wassup fellas? Reading all of these posts makes me want to share what I'm doing this NBA season. We are all here to help each other make a dollar. I'm a fan of systems b/c once you're able to figure out a (true) winning %, you can really use them to guide your investment strategy. I don't like the fact that Morrison finds ways to change his record on his site either. That's some bulllllllllllllshit. But f*ck it man, instead of complaining, find a way to make the system work for you.

I've been successful this season combining the Morrison NBA and the Black belt cappers NBA systems. They are similar in their concepts but offer different plays. The key I found to making money on them is to a) not buy points and b) DON'T CHASE EVER. I use both here in Vegas and the overall winning %'s are good enough to either straight bet them or use something like the Labourchere to recoup losses. I like using the Labourchere b/c that way a couple losses here and there don't really hurt you as bad as a traditional chase system.

I've had ups and downs of course, but if you're disciplined enough to manage your money and strategize using the systems, you will be up very nicely by the end of the season. If you'd like some food for thought, here it is:

I had a 10K bankroll and started with a 50-50-50-50 line on each system. I figured I would have some streaks. If the 10K went away, I could say oh well, I tried something. Here's the $ results on the season as of tonight:

Morrison NBA (since 10/31/08): +$2,566.02

Black Belts NBA (since 12/1/08): +$2,747.32

Total $: +$5,313.34

I missed about 5 winners from each system which would've significantly added to the amounts as I wasn't able to get the plays in on those days. Now $5.3K might not seem like a lot of $ to some of you, but it's a 53% ROI and that's w/ no handicapping, buying of points, chasing, or studying any stats or line movements at all. Seems pretty damn good to me for no work except 10 minutes driving to the casino. I'm sure some of you could find a way to make it even better by adding more filters, but I just take it as it is and it's doing well for me.

If anybody else has ideas or would like to share what they're doing, I'm all ears. That's what we're here to do. I never turn away solid thoughts on ways to make money.

Not sure about PSIC though. Haven't tried his system or service so I can't comment on that one. If it's solid and different, I'm game to hear about it.

Has anybody tried the smart money law system? Haven't heard much about it on the boards as of yet.

Good Luck on your bets fellas and sorry about the long msg. I hope it was helpful. If anyone has any questions, feel free to send me a msg.

Saints (Who Dat)

how did you do that? how much did you bet per game?do you bet by units or flat betting?

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Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:

Wassup fellas? Reading all of these posts makes me want to share what I'm doing this NBA season. We are all here to help each other make a dollar. I'm a fan of systems b/c once you're able to figure out a (true) winning %, you can really use them to guide your investment strategy. I don't like the fact that Morrison finds ways to change his record on his site either. That's some bulllllllllllllshit. But f*ck it man, instead of complaining, find a way to make the system work for you.

I've been successful this season combining the Morrison NBA and the Black belt cappers NBA systems. They are similar in their concepts but offer different plays. The key I found to making money on them is to a) not buy points and b) DON'T CHASE EVER. I use both here in Vegas and the overall winning %'s are good enough to either straight bet them or use something like the Labourchere to recoup losses. I like using the Labourchere b/c that way a couple losses here and there don't really hurt you as bad as a traditional chase system.

I've had ups and downs of course, but if you're disciplined enough to manage your money and strategize using the systems, you will be up very nicely by the end of the season. If you'd like some food for thought, here it is:

I had a 10K bankroll and started with a 50-50-50-50 line on each system. I figured I would have some streaks. If the 10K went away, I could say oh well, I tried something. Here's the $ results on the season as of tonight:

Morrison NBA (since 10/31/08): +$2,566.02

Black Belts NBA (since 12/1/08): +$2,747.32

Total $: +$5,313.34

I missed about 5 winners from each system which would've significantly added to the amounts as I wasn't able to get the plays in on those days. Now $5.3K might not seem like a lot of $ to some of you, but it's a 53% ROI and that's w/ no handicapping, buying of points, chasing, or studying any stats or line movements at all. Seems pretty damn good to me for no work except 10 minutes driving to the casino. I'm sure some of you could find a way to make it even better by adding more filters, but I just take it as it is and it's doing well for me.

If anybody else has ideas or would like to share what they're doing, I'm all ears. That's what we're here to do. I never turn away solid thoughts on ways to make money.

Not sure about PSIC though. Haven't tried his system or service so I can't comment on that one. If it's solid and different, I'm game to hear about it.

Has anybody tried the smart money law system? Haven't heard much about it on the boards as of yet.

Good Luck on your bets fellas and sorry about the long msg. I hope it was helpful. If anyone has any questions, feel free to send me a msg.

Saints (Who Dat)

how did you do that? how much did you bet per game?do you bet by units or flat betting?

manifesto7

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Joined: Aug, 2008

Posts: 37

Posted: Mar. 26, 2009 - 10:44 AM ET #31

The John Morrison betting system is f'n amazing. Made me a lot of money this year. One of the very few and rare services out there that actually works. I'm going to try to save up for a $50,000 bankroll next season to make some high volume bets.

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manifesto

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Posted: Mar. 26, 2009 - 11:16 AM ET #32

Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:

Sure Lipps, shoot me a msg.

Saints - I have a few questions for you on e/w system, will you accept me as a friend so I can PM you? thanks

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novato

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Posts: 45

Posted: Mar. 26, 2009 - 7:09 PM ET #33

S_A_I_N_T_S

You got mail.

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prof8t

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Posts: 576

Posted: Mar. 27, 2009 - 10:12 AM ET #34

Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:

Wassup fellas? Reading all of these posts makes me want to share what I'm doing this NBA season. We are all here to help each other make a dollar. I'm a fan of systems b/c once you're able to figure out a (true) winning %, you can really use them to guide your investment strategy. I don't like the fact that Morrison finds ways to change his record on his site either. That's some bulllllllllllllshit. But f*ck it man, instead of complaining, find a way to make the system work for you.

I've been successful this season combining the Morrison NBA and the Black belt cappers NBA systems. They are similar in their concepts but offer different plays. The key I found to making money on them is to a) not buy points and b) DON'T CHASE EVER. I use both here in Vegas and the overall winning %'s are good enough to either straight bet them or use something like the Labourchere to recoup losses. I like using the Labourchere b/c that way a couple losses here and there don't really hurt you as bad as a traditional chase system.

I've had ups and downs of course, but if you're disciplined enough to manage your money and strategize using the systems, you will be up very nicely by the end of the season. If you'd like some food for thought, here it is:

I had a 10K bankroll and started with a 50-50-50-50 line on each system. I figured I would have some streaks. If the 10K went away, I could say oh well, I tried something. Here's the $ results on the season as of tonight:

Morrison NBA (since 10/31/08): +$2,566.02

Black Belts NBA (since 12/1/08): +$2,747.32

Total $: +$5,313.34

I missed about 5 winners from each system which would've significantly added to the amounts as I wasn't able to get the plays in on those days. Now $5.3K might not seem like a lot of $ to some of you, but it's a 53% ROI and that's w/ no handicapping, buying of points, chasing, or studying any stats or line movements at all. Seems pretty damn good to me for no work except 10 minutes driving to the casino. I'm sure some of you could find a way to make it even better by adding more filters, but I just take it as it is and it's doing well for me.

If anybody else has ideas or would like to share what they're doing, I'm all ears. That's what we're here to do. I never turn away solid thoughts on ways to make money.

Not sure about PSIC though. Haven't tried his system or service so I can't comment on that one. If it's solid and different, I'm game to hear about it.

Has anybody tried the smart money law system? Haven't heard much about it on the boards as of yet.

Good Luck on your bets fellas and sorry about the long msg. I hope it was helpful. If anyone has any questions, feel free to send me a msg.

Saints (Who Dat)

Smart Money Law System works well, however, its base on high chalk favorites. I'd avoid purchasing it altogether. You can get the same results by picking a few high chalk favs a day.

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Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:

Wassup fellas? Reading all of these posts makes me want to share what I'm doing this NBA season. We are all here to help each other make a dollar. I'm a fan of systems b/c once you're able to figure out a (true) winning %, you can really use them to guide your investment strategy. I don't like the fact that Morrison finds ways to change his record on his site either. That's some bulllllllllllllshit. But f*ck it man, instead of complaining, find a way to make the system work for you.

I've been successful this season combining the Morrison NBA and the Black belt cappers NBA systems. They are similar in their concepts but offer different plays. The key I found to making money on them is to a) not buy points and b) DON'T CHASE EVER. I use both here in Vegas and the overall winning %'s are good enough to either straight bet them or use something like the Labourchere to recoup losses. I like using the Labourchere b/c that way a couple losses here and there don't really hurt you as bad as a traditional chase system.

I've had ups and downs of course, but if you're disciplined enough to manage your money and strategize using the systems, you will be up very nicely by the end of the season. If you'd like some food for thought, here it is:

I had a 10K bankroll and started with a 50-50-50-50 line on each system. I figured I would have some streaks. If the 10K went away, I could say oh well, I tried something. Here's the $ results on the season as of tonight:

Morrison NBA (since 10/31/08): +$2,566.02

Black Belts NBA (since 12/1/08): +$2,747.32

Total $: +$5,313.34

I missed about 5 winners from each system which would've significantly added to the amounts as I wasn't able to get the plays in on those days. Now $5.3K might not seem like a lot of $ to some of you, but it's a 53% ROI and that's w/ no handicapping, buying of points, chasing, or studying any stats or line movements at all. Seems pretty damn good to me for no work except 10 minutes driving to the casino. I'm sure some of you could find a way to make it even better by adding more filters, but I just take it as it is and it's doing well for me.

If anybody else has ideas or would like to share what they're doing, I'm all ears. That's what we're here to do. I never turn away solid thoughts on ways to make money.

Not sure about PSIC though. Haven't tried his system or service so I can't comment on that one. If it's solid and different, I'm game to hear about it.

Has anybody tried the smart money law system? Haven't heard much about it on the boards as of yet.

Good Luck on your bets fellas and sorry about the long msg. I hope it was helpful. If anyone has any questions, feel free to send me a msg.

Saints (Who Dat)

Smart Money Law System works well, however, its base on high chalk favorites. I'd avoid purchasing it altogether. You can get the same results by picking a few high chalk favs a day.

S_A_I_N_T_S

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Joined: Jul, 2008

Posts: 3087

Posted: Mar. 27, 2009 - 11:23 AM ET #35

Quote Originally Posted by prof8t:

Smart Money Law System works well, however, its base on high chalk favorites. I'd avoid purchasing it altogether. You can get the same results by picking a few high chalk favs a day.

Thanks prof8t, I'm not usually a big fan of the chalk but if it's consistent, I try to find a way to make it work.

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S_A_I_N_T_S

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Posted: Mar. 27, 2009 - 11:24 AM ET #36

Quote Originally Posted by jv040:

I also want info on the black belt system why not just post it here.

thx

Send me a PM JV.

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S_A_I_N_T_S

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Posts: 3087

Posted: Mar. 27, 2009 - 11:38 AM ET #37

Quote Originally Posted by Punch_theBookie:

how did you do that? how much did you bet per game?do you bet by units or flat betting?

Hey Punch, I used the Labouchere MM system. Both JM and BB provided the plays so I simply kept up w/ what I should bet.

I started w/ 50-50-50-50 line so I was betting to win $100 to start. Each time I would clear a line twice, I'd increase my stakes by $10 to $60-60-60-60 to win $120. It's so much better than chasing for me. I just don't want to hit a C bet under Morrison or bet 3 or 4 under Black Belt and be wagering in the thousands. Puts too much of my past profit at risk.

Keep in mind this NBA season was a test for these 2 systems using this approach. I had some times where I was concerned b/c the money would look like it's going down, but then after a couple wins, it came back. The longer I kept doing it, the better I felt about it.

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Kazidog

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Joined: Jun, 2008

Posts: 55

Posted: Mar. 27, 2009 - 7:30 PM ET #38

I am also curious as to what the Black Belt system is. Is it for all sports or just BB? Thank you in advance. I am not familiar with all the capabilities of this forum yet, so if you could email me with the information, I would appreciate it.

elkhound3@yahoo.com

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cdabbs

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Posts: 381

Posted: Mar. 28, 2009 - 8:50 PM ET #39

Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:

Hey Punch, I used the Labouchere MM system. Both JM and BB provided the plays so I simply kept up w/ what I should bet.

I started w/ 50-50-50-50 line so I was betting to win $100 to start. Each time I would clear a line twice, I'd increase my stakes by $10 to $60-60-60-60 to win $120. It's so much better than chasing for me. I just don't want to hit a C bet under Morrison or bet 3 or 4 under Black Belt and be wagering in the thousands. Puts too much of my past profit at risk.

Keep in mind this NBA season was a test for these 2 systems using this approach. I had some times where I was concerned b/c the money would look like it's going down, but then after a couple wins, it came back. The longer I kept doing it, the better I felt about it.

I just sent you friend request SAINTS. Look forward to discussing with you.

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jsprings

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Joined: Mar, 2009

Posts: 1

Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 12:27 AM ET #40

Hello Saints – I really appreciate you #30 posting, and completely agree with you! I would like more info about your Black Belt system too. I'm new to forums, so would it be ok to ask you to accept me as a friend so I can PM you, or whatever else you suggest? I've been closely following the JM system this season, and am currently working on back testing it 4 more years back, for a total of 5 years, to see what system(s) or tweaks work best once I know how many A/B/C bets won and how many points were required to buy for the win, etc per season, but this will takes days. The JM’s system has definitely has grabbed my attention, but it seems like a fine line between doing well or not, year after year. Couple questions if you don't mind: On your #38 post, you stated that your starting bet was 50-50-50-50 to “win” $100. Wouldn’t 50-50-50-50 mean you’re wagering $100? (to win approximately $90?) How many wagers did you average a day/a week? How big of a bankroll does one need to start with $100 wagers? Lastly, how many consecutive losing bets did you have in a row? Many Thanks!

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iceman52

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Posted: Mar. 30, 2009 - 3:16 PM ET #41

Saints I would like to hear more to as to what it takes to get started and does it also work on football? I like working hard on winning and try to search out ways to do that. I would greatly appreciate any info. Thanks

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prof8t

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Posted: Mar. 30, 2009 - 3:54 PM ET #42

The Black Belt system is currently designed for NBA and MLB. They are in the process of finalizing systems for NFL & NCAA football, as well as NCAA basketball for next season.

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S_A_I_N_T_S

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Posted: Apr. 5, 2009 - 11:26 PM ET #43

Quote Originally Posted by prof8t:

Smart Money Law System works well, however, its base on high chalk favorites. I'd avoid purchasing it altogether. You can get the same results by picking a few high chalk favs a day.

Thanks prof8t, do you have any more info on the Smart Money system such as how often those chalks are winning? 50%? 60%? Thanks!

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prof8t

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Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 12:19 AM ET #44

Smart Money system plays are hitting about 70%.

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GOLDENTURTLE888

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Posts: 27

Posted: Apr. 6, 2009 - 5:15 AM ET #45

buying picks is stupid and you learn nothing from it. I bought picks from this one guy and they suck like hell. It hit like 1-2, 2-2, 3-2, 0-3, 3-1, 2-2, 0-1 etc....

When you pick a game you got to understand the science behind the game.

That pick package cost me $309 and did shit, and I didn't even recoup my package before his picks did shit as hell the first week.

He even calls me every week to go buy his lock picks at $1,700, so I was like get a jump. The picks sucks and they're known as ATSsportlines.com
The real dude is Al Merrit and he is in Las Vegas and former linesmaker and his power rating data base is sick. Connected to infomation and the sport books in vegas. The guy will make you money as an investment by far a killer in all sports. The only guy, but he is sort a tout himself since he has a website. I consider myself pretty good but I will give it to the forum for free.

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S_A_I_N_T_S

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Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 12:45 PM ET #46

Quote Originally Posted by iceman52:

Saints I would like to hear more to as to what it takes to get started and does it also work on football? I like working hard on winning and try to search out ways to do that. I would greatly appreciate any info. Thanks

Hey iceman, my bad, I've been slow. Send me a PM when you can. I've been working with these 2 systems but am open to hearing more about others as well. Just trying to build up some solid long term strategies for baseball

Not sure if the approach will work on football or not but it might be worth a try.

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hoop121

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Posts: 200

Posted: Apr. 17, 2009 - 6:29 PM ET #47

could someone PM me th details of the black belt as well?

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CAMCITI

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Posts: 5

Posted: Apr. 20, 2009 - 3:06 AM ET #48

ok man i know i dont have a bunch of postings but ive been reading these forums and using this site for a while now and i always see the same thing. im not trying to bash any systems that may be porofitable as i use them as well, along with single picks and sometimes chases. so maybe i just dont get it. but everytime i hear about a sysytem working i never know EXACTLY what that system is. maybe its because its common knowledge among internet gamblers and ive just been doing my thing here in vegas, mainly at the suncoast 5min. from my house, or maybe its illegal to post the exact chase systems such as john m., the blackbelt,or psic. but i would really like to know what these systems are!!! i am looking for other ways to profit as well

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MarlonB

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Posts: 483

Posted: Apr. 20, 2009 - 3:30 AM ET #49

Quote Originally Posted by CAMCITI:

ok man i know i dont have a bunch of postings but ive been reading these forums and using this site for a while now and i always see the same thing. im not trying to bash any systems that may be porofitable as i use them as well, along with single picks and sometimes chases. so maybe i just dont get it. but everytime i hear about a sysytem working i never know EXACTLY what that system is. maybe its because its common knowledge among internet gamblers and ive just been doing my thing here in vegas, mainly at the suncoast 5min. from my house, or maybe its illegal to post the exact chase systems such as john m., the blackbelt,or psic. but i would really like to know what these systems are!!! i am looking for other ways to profit as well

I can't speak on the black belt system, but I can speak on Morrison and PSIC because I have both services. For example, Morrison uses the east/west system in the NBA (and only the east/west system), when a team from the east goes to the west you fade the home team for 3 games until you get a win. And vice versa with the west going to the east. So always play the road team, oh yeah don't forget to buy 3 points on every game . It also has to be the start of a new 3 or more game road trip, and then there are filters of corse. PSIC will use the east/west and a few other systems that he came up with, the systems are in his Gold book or whatever the hell it's called!!??

I hope that helps you out a little.

GL

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sports_Network

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Posts: 8426

Posted: Apr. 20, 2009 - 3:58 AM ET #50

Quote Originally Posted by scsiegel89:

buying peoples picks

I have no idea why people would ever pay for people's advice on gambling. By far one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard...

totally agree...according to this thread JM has made "millionaires" out of seven screen names, who have used his service for "years" with nothing but success..Yet you show nothing, not even the simplest form of documentation..talk is cheap, hiding your conversation behind a keyboard is cheaper..

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