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    “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump said in 2002

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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2025 - 3:36 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    “Pam Bondi’s big Epstein files party was a bust. It turned out the documents she called declassified, which included pages from Epstein’s infamous  “ black book ,” had been previously released, most recently during the criminal trial of Ghislaine Maxwell four years earlier. (The black book revealed Trump’s name and the names of his wife, Melania, and other family members.)” This is from the article below https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-08-01/epstein-files-trump-s-name-was-redacted-by-the-fbi Looks to me that like Trump DOJ & FBI will redact most of the information regarding Epstein and Trump inform the pubic in Trump friendly narrative that he knew nothing about, did nothing and should get a Nobel peace prize and Mrs Maxwell was a misunderstood victim!

     

     

    of course these criminals will get away with it

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    “Pam Bondi’s big Epstein files party was a bust. It turned out the documents she called declassified, which included pages from Epstein’s infamous  “ black book ,” had been previously released, most recently during the criminal trial of Ghislaine Maxwell four years earlier. (The black book revealed Trump’s name and the names of his wife, Melania, and other family members.)” This is from the article below https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-08-01/epstein-files-trump-s-name-was-redacted-by-the-fbi Looks to me that like Trump DOJ & FBI will redact most of the information regarding Epstein and Trump inform the pubic in Trump friendly narrative that he knew nothing about, did nothing and should get a Nobel peace prize and Mrs Maxwell was a misunderstood victim!

     

     

    of course these criminals will get away with it

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2025 - 4:08 PM ET #127

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    “Pam Bondi’s big Epstein files party was a bust. It turned out the documents she called declassified, which included pages from Epstein’s infamous  “ black book ,” had been previously released, most recently during the criminal trial of Ghislaine Maxwell four years earlier. (The black book revealed Trump’s name and the names of his wife, Melania, and other family members.)” This is from the article below https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-08-01/epstein-files-trump-s-name-was-redacted-by-the-fbi Looks to me that like Trump DOJ & FBI will redact most of the information regarding Epstein and Trump inform the pubic in Trump friendly narrative that he knew nothing about, did nothing and should get a Nobel peace prize and Mrs Maxwell was a misunderstood victim!

    Or could you consider that maybe, maybe, there's jhst nothing to see here. Is it that people want actual justice, or at very least accountability? Or is it that people just need a negative ball cast against Trump? Would all of people's worst theories about Trump somehow be a victory to said people? Would finding out that Trump was involved somehow make people happy? I sincerely wonder this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    “Pam Bondi’s big Epstein files party was a bust. It turned out the documents she called declassified, which included pages from Epstein’s infamous  “ black book ,” had been previously released, most recently during the criminal trial of Ghislaine Maxwell four years earlier. (The black book revealed Trump’s name and the names of his wife, Melania, and other family members.)” This is from the article below https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-08-01/epstein-files-trump-s-name-was-redacted-by-the-fbi Looks to me that like Trump DOJ & FBI will redact most of the information regarding Epstein and Trump inform the pubic in Trump friendly narrative that he knew nothing about, did nothing and should get a Nobel peace prize and Mrs Maxwell was a misunderstood victim!

    Or could you consider that maybe, maybe, there's jhst nothing to see here. Is it that people want actual justice, or at very least accountability? Or is it that people just need a negative ball cast against Trump? Would all of people's worst theories about Trump somehow be a victory to said people? Would finding out that Trump was involved somehow make people happy? I sincerely wonder this.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2025 - 4:23 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Today on Newmax Trump was hitting softballs and said…Todd went in and I think he just wants to make sure that innocent people aren’t hurt,” Trump added, noting that he hasn’t spoken with his deputy attorney general about Maxwell and doesn’t know if there are plans to release a transcript of the interview. ……He hasn’t spoke to Blanche yet? Blanche had Trump on the phone before they turned the key on in the black government Tahoe!……Maxwells Attorney is brilliant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Today on Newmax Trump was hitting softballs and said…Todd went in and I think he just wants to make sure that innocent people aren’t hurt,” Trump added, noting that he hasn’t spoken with his deputy attorney general about Maxwell and doesn’t know if there are plans to release a transcript of the interview. ……He hasn’t spoke to Blanche yet? Blanche had Trump on the phone before they turned the key on in the black government Tahoe!……Maxwells Attorney is brilliant!

    an_roll_laugh

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2025 - 10:54 PM ET #129

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     Try to look at it this way, It’s beyond odd enlight of Epstein’s incredibly lenient first sentence, prosecutors being told to back off, and no convictions of any other men despite secret videos of parties being stored for blackmail purposes being part of the official evidence. It stinks to high heaven.

    Also Trump isn’t trying to say that he thought being outmaneuvered in a real estate deal is more of an incentive to cut ties with Epstein than sex trafficking; he’s trying to claim that he didn’t really know Epstein, didn’t have a social relationship with him, and thus didn’t know anything about ‘sex stuff’ despite not only the copious photographic and video evidence but his own prior statements such as “ That He likes beautiful women as much as I do and many of them are on the younger side” Donald Trump is just a terrible liar, one who talks out of both sides of his mouth and he can’t keep track of which lie belongs to which side.

    Now If Trump ordered them to put Maxwell in minimum security after a 2 day interview with Todd Blanche ???..and taking in and knowing just the information above that’s a scandal by its self! But Alas in light on individual #1’s long history I doubt even if Trump (and many others) have fucked teenaged girls on Epsteins private sex resort with victims testifying he and them will never beheld accountable even if he went before Congress! As long no one admitted to it…..We have come a long way from I didn’t inhale marijuana!

     

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     Try to look at it this way, It’s beyond odd enlight of Epstein’s incredibly lenient first sentence, prosecutors being told to back off, and no convictions of any other men despite secret videos of parties being stored for blackmail purposes being part of the official evidence. It stinks to high heaven.

    Also Trump isn’t trying to say that he thought being outmaneuvered in a real estate deal is more of an incentive to cut ties with Epstein than sex trafficking; he’s trying to claim that he didn’t really know Epstein, didn’t have a social relationship with him, and thus didn’t know anything about ‘sex stuff’ despite not only the copious photographic and video evidence but his own prior statements such as “ That He likes beautiful women as much as I do and many of them are on the younger side” Donald Trump is just a terrible liar, one who talks out of both sides of his mouth and he can’t keep track of which lie belongs to which side.

    Now If Trump ordered them to put Maxwell in minimum security after a 2 day interview with Todd Blanche ???..and taking in and knowing just the information above that’s a scandal by its self! But Alas in light on individual #1’s long history I doubt even if Trump (and many others) have fucked teenaged girls on Epsteins private sex resort with victims testifying he and them will never beheld accountable even if he went before Congress! As long no one admitted to it…..We have come a long way from I didn’t inhale marijuana!

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2025 - 2:20 AM ET #130

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:   Why did Epstein choose to target the Mar-a-Lago spa? It appears he was fully aware there were underage girls working there.  This is the kind of thing special counsel is designed to look into. Time to stop letting Trump’s personal attorneys harass the witnesses and victims, and turn the case over to unbiased prosecutors.     @Sidehatch It's time for sure.  But in trump's new MAGA REICH it won't happen...

    Agree! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:   Why did Epstein choose to target the Mar-a-Lago spa? It appears he was fully aware there were underage girls working there.  This is the kind of thing special counsel is designed to look into. Time to stop letting Trump’s personal attorneys harass the witnesses and victims, and turn the case over to unbiased prosecutors.     @Sidehatch It's time for sure.  But in trump's new MAGA REICH it won't happen...

    Agree! 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2025 - 2:27 AM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Aww crap. The victims’ families are now quoting Trump’s own recent quotes as indicative of how much he knew about Epstein, lurking in Trump’s spa with teenagers. Not a good look for Dementia Don, who can hardly string a few sentences together.    “It makes us ask if he was aware of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s criminal actions, especially given his statement two years later that his good friend Jeffrey ‘likes women on the younger side … no doubt about it,’” Giuffre’s two brothers and her sisters-in-law told The Atlantic in an exclusive statement, their first public response to the president. “We and the public are asking for answers; survivors deserve this.” Giuffre died by suicide at her home in Australia in late April. In civil litigation and information provided to law enforcement, Giuffre alleged that she had been recruited by Maxwell while working at Mar-a-Lago as a high schooler and had then been sexually abused from around 1999 to 2002 by Epstein, Maxwell, and others. Giuffre also alleged that Epstein had trafficked her to other prominent men. Epstein died in jail in June 2019 while he was awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges. Giuffre’s family told me that Virginia’s work at Mar-a-Lago was meant to be a fun summertime job but instead led to her being sex trafficked. Which family are we talking about? The family so horrible, she had to run away from home and face abuse? The family that had nothing to do with her in life but now wants to cash in on her in death? I will say it again, in life, Virginia named implacated many rich and powerful people, but she never mentioned Donald Trump.

    Thanks for the bad faith arguments. If they aren’t in bad faith, you’re a blathering idiot who apparently doesn’t read words.

    But they are in bad faith, we all know it. Congrats on bending over backwards to protect pedos! You must be so proud! 

    STUMPTOWN STU = all about protecting the pedos! Yeah, you never want those Epstein files released! Wow! How brave! 

    I strongly recommend you tell everyone in your personal life about your pro-pedo stance! Tell the folks at the local schools too, so they can look into whether a restraining order is necessary.

    Because according to you, 15-16 year old girls, working at Mar a Lago spa, with Jeffrey Epstein as a member (and he’s the best friend of the club’s owner!!!), raises no red flags. Zero. None! 

    Definitely brag about this viewpoint to people who know you. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Aww crap. The victims’ families are now quoting Trump’s own recent quotes as indicative of how much he knew about Epstein, lurking in Trump’s spa with teenagers. Not a good look for Dementia Don, who can hardly string a few sentences together.    “It makes us ask if he was aware of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s criminal actions, especially given his statement two years later that his good friend Jeffrey ‘likes women on the younger side … no doubt about it,’” Giuffre’s two brothers and her sisters-in-law told The Atlantic in an exclusive statement, their first public response to the president. “We and the public are asking for answers; survivors deserve this.” Giuffre died by suicide at her home in Australia in late April. In civil litigation and information provided to law enforcement, Giuffre alleged that she had been recruited by Maxwell while working at Mar-a-Lago as a high schooler and had then been sexually abused from around 1999 to 2002 by Epstein, Maxwell, and others. Giuffre also alleged that Epstein had trafficked her to other prominent men. Epstein died in jail in June 2019 while he was awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges. Giuffre’s family told me that Virginia’s work at Mar-a-Lago was meant to be a fun summertime job but instead led to her being sex trafficked. Which family are we talking about? The family so horrible, she had to run away from home and face abuse? The family that had nothing to do with her in life but now wants to cash in on her in death? I will say it again, in life, Virginia named implacated many rich and powerful people, but she never mentioned Donald Trump.

    Thanks for the bad faith arguments. If they aren’t in bad faith, you’re a blathering idiot who apparently doesn’t read words.

    But they are in bad faith, we all know it. Congrats on bending over backwards to protect pedos! You must be so proud! 

    STUMPTOWN STU = all about protecting the pedos! Yeah, you never want those Epstein files released! Wow! How brave! 

    I strongly recommend you tell everyone in your personal life about your pro-pedo stance! Tell the folks at the local schools too, so they can look into whether a restraining order is necessary.

    Because according to you, 15-16 year old girls, working at Mar a Lago spa, with Jeffrey Epstein as a member (and he’s the best friend of the club’s owner!!!), raises no red flags. Zero. None! 

    Definitely brag about this viewpoint to people who know you. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2025 - 12:13 PM ET #132

    Trump brags of severing relations with Epstein after discovering raid on his employees. But Mar-a-lago records show Epstein stayed as a club member for 7 more years until 2007. 

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    Trump brags of severing relations with Epstein after discovering raid on his employees. But Mar-a-lago records show Epstein stayed as a club member for 7 more years until 2007. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2025 - 11:57 PM ET #133

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump brags of severing relations with Epstein after discovering raid on his employees. But Mar-a-lago records show Epstein stayed as a club member for 7 more years until 2007.

    Ruh roh!

    One has to wonder about why the judge who rejected the request to reveal a grand jury transcript with no new information on it, and the judge hinting that it appears to be another bad faith effort to create a distraction from the Trump administration. 

    It’s really a shame, especially considering Dotard Trumpf can barely string a few sentences together anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump brags of severing relations with Epstein after discovering raid on his employees. But Mar-a-lago records show Epstein stayed as a club member for 7 more years until 2007.

    Ruh roh!

    One has to wonder about why the judge who rejected the request to reveal a grand jury transcript with no new information on it, and the judge hinting that it appears to be another bad faith effort to create a distraction from the Trump administration. 

    It’s really a shame, especially considering Dotard Trumpf can barely string a few sentences together anymore.

     
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    Jizzlane has some viable work release jobs that have been offered.

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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2025 - 11:48 AM ET #135

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    You are a piece of shit. I have never and would never protect pedophiles. That is literally almost the worst thing you can say about a person. Not to mention personally calling me out/attacking me. You are the biggest scumbag here. The fact you are never punished just speaks to the moderation in this forum.

    And for the record, I think all Epstein files should be released, without being redacted.

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    @Sidehatch

     

    You are a piece of shit. I have never and would never protect pedophiles. That is literally almost the worst thing you can say about a person. Not to mention personally calling me out/attacking me. You are the biggest scumbag here. The fact you are never punished just speaks to the moderation in this forum.

    And for the record, I think all Epstein files should be released, without being redacted.

     
     
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