Coming down to the final games of the year, its been a fun season across both leagues and I am glad to see a few WNBL girls have signed some WNBA contracts this season as well. Whitcomb has signed on with the Seattle Storm who already have a great roster filled with young talent and they will dominate the league this year with a few other teams.
The Perth Wildcats have now qualified for the NBL Finals once again. Just amazing how relentless this team is year in year out with different rosters. This team has gone through ups and downs this season with Martin out for a long time, roster changes (Johnson went, come back, Ingram went home after 1 game) yet they still make the Finals.
On the other side, we have the 36ers and Hawks. This game really intrigues me. Mitch Creek ate his words the other day, and the Hawks retaliated. Creek said that the Hawks cannot beat them and use other non basketball tactics to try and win the games verse them. I don't agree with his statement at all. Beveridge vs Wright is another classic coach vs coach in this series. Who will be the one to make the right changes to their rotations and game plan.. Should be a fun game. Will post a play closer to game time.
BOL this week everyone
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YTD: 41-17
WNBL: 20-9
NBL: 21-8
Coming down to the final games of the year, its been a fun season across both leagues and I am glad to see a few WNBL girls have signed some WNBA contracts this season as well. Whitcomb has signed on with the Seattle Storm who already have a great roster filled with young talent and they will dominate the league this year with a few other teams.
The Perth Wildcats have now qualified for the NBL Finals once again. Just amazing how relentless this team is year in year out with different rosters. This team has gone through ups and downs this season with Martin out for a long time, roster changes (Johnson went, come back, Ingram went home after 1 game) yet they still make the Finals.
On the other side, we have the 36ers and Hawks. This game really intrigues me. Mitch Creek ate his words the other day, and the Hawks retaliated. Creek said that the Hawks cannot beat them and use other non basketball tactics to try and win the games verse them. I don't agree with his statement at all. Beveridge vs Wright is another classic coach vs coach in this series. Who will be the one to make the right changes to their rotations and game plan.. Should be a fun game. Will post a play closer to game time.
Illawarra Hawks @ Adelaide 36ers: Hawks +5.5 and ML
Those who follow, fade or tail. My bets on this league and the WNBL are all straight bets and all the same, 2 units each. Now because I am taking the Hawks ML tonight, I have divided by 2 units up a little differently for this game. I am putting 1.25 units on the spread and the remaining 0.75 units on the ML. I very rarely put more than 2 units on 1 game...I got the ML through William Hill at $2.80 as well.
I believe Mitch Creek has absolutely charged the motivation up in the Hawks with his stupid comments after Game #1 stating that the Hawks use other tactics to try and beat the 36ers because they simply cannot keep up at all. Mr MVP, Randle is the man to carry this 36ers team to a victory tonight but I feel as though he cannot do it all himself. He does get back up from Sobey and Johnson and that was shown in both games but for some reason my gut is telling me to take the Hawks and Beveridge in this spot. The 36ers mailed in the season after they clinched 1st spot no doubt, finishing the season 0-4 S/U and then winning game 1 and then losing game 2. Like I said last week, the Hawks getting almost the same line the Taipans got in Perth on Monday night yet the Hawks are a far more superior team with their players, talent and bench compared to the Taipans and IMHO, Perth is a much tougher place to get a win than Adelaide is. I expect this game to be foul city as well. The refs are calling everything, the players are disliking each other but I have heard through the media that Beveridge may start Rotnei Clarke tonight instead of having him off the bench because when he is on the court, the Hawks play so well. He needs to play at least 30+ mins in this contest tonight for the Hawks to have a chance.
Well here we go.... Going to be a fun ride
Illawarra Hawks @ Adelaide 36ers: Hawks +5.5 and ML
Those who follow, fade or tail. My bets on this league and the WNBL are all straight bets and all the same, 2 units each. Now because I am taking the Hawks ML tonight, I have divided by 2 units up a little differently for this game. I am putting 1.25 units on the spread and the remaining 0.75 units on the ML. I very rarely put more than 2 units on 1 game...I got the ML through William Hill at $2.80 as well.
I believe Mitch Creek has absolutely charged the motivation up in the Hawks with his stupid comments after Game #1 stating that the Hawks use other tactics to try and beat the 36ers because they simply cannot keep up at all. Mr MVP, Randle is the man to carry this 36ers team to a victory tonight but I feel as though he cannot do it all himself. He does get back up from Sobey and Johnson and that was shown in both games but for some reason my gut is telling me to take the Hawks and Beveridge in this spot. The 36ers mailed in the season after they clinched 1st spot no doubt, finishing the season 0-4 S/U and then winning game 1 and then losing game 2. Like I said last week, the Hawks getting almost the same line the Taipans got in Perth on Monday night yet the Hawks are a far more superior team with their players, talent and bench compared to the Taipans and IMHO, Perth is a much tougher place to get a win than Adelaide is. I expect this game to be foul city as well. The refs are calling everything, the players are disliking each other but I have heard through the media that Beveridge may start Rotnei Clarke tonight instead of having him off the bench because when he is on the court, the Hawks play so well. He needs to play at least 30+ mins in this contest tonight for the Hawks to have a chance.
Just a matter of opinion I guess, Taipans to me is a better outfit than the Hawks cause they played solid D, have an interior low post target in Jawai who can score on anybody and Trice who can create his own shots or be a facilitator. This team can really hang their hat on playing solid D but I can't say the same for this Hawks squad. If you look at the regular seasons result you'll see that the Taipans rarely get blown out by big margins in a losing contest cause their D keeps them in most of games. Conversely Hawks have plenty of games where they were flogged because if their shots don't fall then they got nothing to fall back on.
Tonight is the type of game that Randle thrives in, he can talk the talk & walk the walk. He doesn't have to dominate score wise for them to win, he does it in so many other ways.
May the best team win tonight buddy
Just a matter of opinion I guess, Taipans to me is a better outfit than the Hawks cause they played solid D, have an interior low post target in Jawai who can score on anybody and Trice who can create his own shots or be a facilitator. This team can really hang their hat on playing solid D but I can't say the same for this Hawks squad. If you look at the regular seasons result you'll see that the Taipans rarely get blown out by big margins in a losing contest cause their D keeps them in most of games. Conversely Hawks have plenty of games where they were flogged because if their shots don't fall then they got nothing to fall back on.
Tonight is the type of game that Randle thrives in, he can talk the talk & walk the walk. He doesn't have to dominate score wise for them to win, he does it in so many other ways.
Pretty sure you went the other way in game one and it was a blowout!
You really see such a difference tonight?
Obviously you do but you know what I mean..
Also maybe the total is quite high for such a scrap..
Correct. I took Adelaide in the first game because they needed a win after 4 straight losses and they were sitting comfortably at home whilst the Hawks were doing their very best to stay in the playoff hunt so I expected a small letdown spot for the Hawks in that game as the 36ers were well rested. Now both teams playing the same amount of games in the past week. I think Beveridge can make the right adjustments to his team for this game and get the surprise upset.
I have no opinion on the total. It is very high but these 2 teams are bad at defending (Adelaide allowing 90.9 points per 80 possessions) and Hawks allowing 91.1 points per 80 possessions.. But then again, I don't expect a run and gun style of a game but who knows when it comes to these 2 teams.
Quote Originally Posted by Ramanujan:
Pretty sure you went the other way in game one and it was a blowout!
You really see such a difference tonight?
Obviously you do but you know what I mean..
Also maybe the total is quite high for such a scrap..
Correct. I took Adelaide in the first game because they needed a win after 4 straight losses and they were sitting comfortably at home whilst the Hawks were doing their very best to stay in the playoff hunt so I expected a small letdown spot for the Hawks in that game as the 36ers were well rested. Now both teams playing the same amount of games in the past week. I think Beveridge can make the right adjustments to his team for this game and get the surprise upset.
I have no opinion on the total. It is very high but these 2 teams are bad at defending (Adelaide allowing 90.9 points per 80 possessions) and Hawks allowing 91.1 points per 80 possessions.. But then again, I don't expect a run and gun style of a game but who knows when it comes to these 2 teams.
Just a matter of opinion I guess, Taipans to me is a better outfit than the Hawks cause they played solid D, have an interior low post target in Jawai who can score on anybody and Trice who can create his own shots or be a facilitator. This team can really hang their hat on playing solid D but I can't say the same for this Hawks squad. If you look at the regular seasons result you'll see that the Taipans rarely get blown out by big margins in a losing contest cause their D keeps them in most of games. Conversely Hawks have plenty of games where they were flogged because if their shots don't fall then they got nothing to fall back on.
Tonight is the type of game that Randle thrives in, he can talk the talk & walk the walk. He doesn't have to dominate score wise for them to win, he does it in so many other ways.
May the best team win tonight buddy
Completely agree with your valid points about the Taipans and not getting blown out because of their D was spot on most games but their offense lacked a lot of the times. With the Hawks and 36ers, neither play D. Both allowing close to 90 points per 80 possessions and if the Hawks can stick to their usual game plan of taking around 75-80 shots per game, then they have a real chance to win this. Definitely agree with Randle stepping up for these kind of games but I worry about the lack of experience the young 36ers have in such a big game.
But I guess all we can do is talk back and forth about this game and stats get thrown out the window when it comes down to a showdown like this game. Home court is a massive advantage in this league and the 36ers obviously have that on their side but hoping that Beveridge and the Hawks can really upset Adelaide tonight.
Quote Originally Posted by D-Play:
Just a matter of opinion I guess, Taipans to me is a better outfit than the Hawks cause they played solid D, have an interior low post target in Jawai who can score on anybody and Trice who can create his own shots or be a facilitator. This team can really hang their hat on playing solid D but I can't say the same for this Hawks squad. If you look at the regular seasons result you'll see that the Taipans rarely get blown out by big margins in a losing contest cause their D keeps them in most of games. Conversely Hawks have plenty of games where they were flogged because if their shots don't fall then they got nothing to fall back on.
Tonight is the type of game that Randle thrives in, he can talk the talk & walk the walk. He doesn't have to dominate score wise for them to win, he does it in so many other ways.
May the best team win tonight buddy
Completely agree with your valid points about the Taipans and not getting blown out because of their D was spot on most games but their offense lacked a lot of the times. With the Hawks and 36ers, neither play D. Both allowing close to 90 points per 80 possessions and if the Hawks can stick to their usual game plan of taking around 75-80 shots per game, then they have a real chance to win this. Definitely agree with Randle stepping up for these kind of games but I worry about the lack of experience the young 36ers have in such a big game.
But I guess all we can do is talk back and forth about this game and stats get thrown out the window when it comes down to a showdown like this game. Home court is a massive advantage in this league and the 36ers obviously have that on their side but hoping that Beveridge and the Hawks can really upset Adelaide tonight.
OK so lines are out as well for the WNBL this weekend.
We have Rangers -4.5 and total at 151.5 vs the Lynx
Flames laying -3.5 and total sitting at 150.5 vs the Fire.
Now, the Fire have so much playoff experience in their squad but the Flames have been firing on all cylinders and have caused the Fire plenty of headaches this season. Hard game to cap IMHO, very hard to go against the Fire in this game but then its also hard to fade a team like the Flames with players like Mitchell, Snell, Taylor etc..
The other game has me scratching my head, the bookies have dropped this total by a massive 10 points from last weekend. Even though the game only hit 140 last week in a 81-59 demolition, I think that might change come Saturday. This game has all the potential for both teams to click over 75+ each. Will wait for further movement on that total but I have a heavy lean on the over as I expect the Lynx to do a lot better than 59 points like last weekend.
OK so lines are out as well for the WNBL this weekend.
We have Rangers -4.5 and total at 151.5 vs the Lynx
Flames laying -3.5 and total sitting at 150.5 vs the Fire.
Now, the Fire have so much playoff experience in their squad but the Flames have been firing on all cylinders and have caused the Fire plenty of headaches this season. Hard game to cap IMHO, very hard to go against the Fire in this game but then its also hard to fade a team like the Flames with players like Mitchell, Snell, Taylor etc..
The other game has me scratching my head, the bookies have dropped this total by a massive 10 points from last weekend. Even though the game only hit 140 last week in a 81-59 demolition, I think that might change come Saturday. This game has all the potential for both teams to click over 75+ each. Will wait for further movement on that total but I have a heavy lean on the over as I expect the Lynx to do a lot better than 59 points like last weekend.
Cheers, I didn't realise it was going to be such a blowout. In the end the result didn't really show how bad the 36ers were in that game. The Hawks took their foot off the gas 4Q but why wouldn't they as they enter the 4Q up by 18.
I agree Rod, the Hawks and Perth aren't as interesting to me as 36ers vs Perth. The Hawks still can test the Wildcats but to try and steal a game at least in Perth will be tough. They get 3 chances to try and steal at least one game.. I cant see them doing it in game 1 but I may not bet game 1 to see where both teams are at. Very hard for the Hawks to win 2 road playoff games in a row.
Cheers, I didn't realise it was going to be such a blowout. In the end the result didn't really show how bad the 36ers were in that game. The Hawks took their foot off the gas 4Q but why wouldn't they as they enter the 4Q up by 18.
I agree Rod, the Hawks and Perth aren't as interesting to me as 36ers vs Perth. The Hawks still can test the Wildcats but to try and steal a game at least in Perth will be tough. They get 3 chances to try and steal at least one game.. I cant see them doing it in game 1 but I may not bet game 1 to see where both teams are at. Very hard for the Hawks to win 2 road playoff games in a row.
Total continues to climb in the Lynx game as I just got it for 154 on Pinnacle, how high are you looking to play it to?
Mate I'm seeing 151.5 with Sportsbet and 154.5 with WH. The last total was 161.5. I haven't locked the play in yet because I'm still looking into the match up
Quote Originally Posted by DanCarcillo:
Total continues to climb in the Lynx game as I just got it for 154 on Pinnacle, how high are you looking to play it to?
Mate I'm seeing 151.5 with Sportsbet and 154.5 with WH. The last total was 161.5. I haven't locked the play in yet because I'm still looking into the match up
Sitting these first 2 games out. I can't fade the experience and talent of the Fire in a playoff game but I can also not fade the Dlames this season. Rangers IMHO shouldn't be favoured that much vs Perth but then again, Perth have lost both this year in Dandenong by big margins. Don't want to force a play just for the sake of some action..
Sitting these first 2 games out. I can't fade the experience and talent of the Fire in a playoff game but I can also not fade the Dlames this season. Rangers IMHO shouldn't be favoured that much vs Perth but then again, Perth have lost both this year in Dandenong by big margins. Don't want to force a play just for the sake of some action..
Missing AJ Ogilvy and Harris for this game will be a big loss for the Hawks against a team built like the Wildcats. AJ gone is a massive loss inside. The Perth team is built for rebounding. Then you have Martin guarding the perimeter shots as well, which if the Hawks don't land this game will be ugly. Rotnei Clarke surely to draw the start with Harris gone. That means the Hawks bench will be very depleted. Very hard to win back to back road games in this very home courtish league. Can't see the well rested Wildcats slipping up at home like the 36ers did the other night vs the Hawks in Game #1.
Missing AJ Ogilvy and Harris for this game will be a big loss for the Hawks against a team built like the Wildcats. AJ gone is a massive loss inside. The Perth team is built for rebounding. Then you have Martin guarding the perimeter shots as well, which if the Hawks don't land this game will be ugly. Rotnei Clarke surely to draw the start with Harris gone. That means the Hawks bench will be very depleted. Very hard to win back to back road games in this very home courtish league. Can't see the well rested Wildcats slipping up at home like the 36ers did the other night vs the Hawks in Game #1.
Buy a point if you want to because this line IMHO won't go down. I grabbed this last night around 11pm when I saw on another forum that Harris was out and AJ is 80% out which I don't think Beveridge would risk him in game 1 in case of either injury. I still see a blowout by DDS tonight. Martin will control Clarke, no bigs for the Hawks who are a weak rebounding team even with AJ and Perth are the best at it. Hawks gave up way too many offensive rebounds in previous games and against Perth, they will get slaughtered in that category.
Quote Originally Posted by Ramanujan:
Up to 6.5. Might wait until later....
Buy a point if you want to because this line IMHO won't go down. I grabbed this last night around 11pm when I saw on another forum that Harris was out and AJ is 80% out which I don't think Beveridge would risk him in game 1 in case of either injury. I still see a blowout by DDS tonight. Martin will control Clarke, no bigs for the Hawks who are a weak rebounding team even with AJ and Perth are the best at it. Hawks gave up way too many offensive rebounds in previous games and against Perth, they will get slaughtered in that category.
Illawarra Hawks @ Adelaide 36ers: Hawks +5.5 and ML
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