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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2009 - 8:26 PM ET #1

    YTD: 34-23  +13.6u

    Steel -7.5  1u
    Swifts head back to NZ after geting demoralised by the pulse. Think it is more likely they will mail it in rather than try and finish the season on a high note.

    Steel have been impressive the last two weeks, playing with control when they have the ball and putting alot of pressure on defensively. 

    There is only a couple goals in it with the firebirds for the final finals spot so steel will be looking to win big.


    Vixens v Pulse over 101.5  1u
    Over the past five rounds only one of ten games involving these teams has gone under this number.

    Vixens need to win big so will turn up the defence which could spell trouble for the Pulse, but i think Pulse will be in high spirits after their win last week and give it their best. If they can get near 40 should go over fairy easily.

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    YTD: 34-23  +13.6u

    Steel -7.5  1u
    Swifts head back to NZ after geting demoralised by the pulse. Think it is more likely they will mail it in rather than try and finish the season on a high note.

    Steel have been impressive the last two weeks, playing with control when they have the ball and putting alot of pressure on defensively. 

    There is only a couple goals in it with the firebirds for the final finals spot so steel will be looking to win big.


    Vixens v Pulse over 101.5  1u
    Over the past five rounds only one of ten games involving these teams has gone under this number.

    Vixens need to win big so will turn up the defence which could spell trouble for the Pulse, but i think Pulse will be in high spirits after their win last week and give it their best. If they can get near 40 should go over fairy easily.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2009 - 9:00 PM ET #2

    liking Adelaide tomorrow
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    liking Adelaide tomorrow
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2009 - 9:51 PM ET #3

    did you read magic went to adelaide from perth? thinking this may work ok for magic.
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    did you read magic went to adelaide from perth? thinking this may work ok for magic.
     
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    gl mate, If Magic win by their average winning margin of 12 goals, Vixens need to beat Central Pulse on Saturday by at least 40. If Magic win by one, Vixens need to win by 28.  But Pulse proved in their historic first win over Swifts last round that they are capable of putting up a spirited fight. gl with steel pick, i hope they thrash swifts today(lazy bitches).lol    Gee vixens to win -28.5, thats alot of goals, can it be done. lol  they did it last week.
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    gl mate, If Magic win by their average winning margin of 12 goals, Vixens need to beat Central Pulse on Saturday by at least 40. If Magic win by one, Vixens need to win by 28.  But Pulse proved in their historic first win over Swifts last round that they are capable of putting up a spirited fight. gl with steel pick, i hope they thrash swifts today(lazy bitches).lol    Gee vixens to win -28.5, thats alot of goals, can it be done. lol  they did it last week.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2009 - 10:50 PM ET #5

    vixens will shoot in the 60s but can pulse shoot in the 40s. luxbet has increase it to 103 goals.
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    vixens will shoot in the 60s but can pulse shoot in the 40s. luxbet has increase it to 103 goals.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2009 - 11:05 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by binomial:

    did you read magic went to adelaide from perth? thinking this may work ok for magic.

    didn't read it but assumed they'd stay here anyway

    I just think the T-birds deserve to be favourites over the Magic in Adelaide and off a disappointing loss last week they should be keyed up to get this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by binomial:

    did you read magic went to adelaide from perth? thinking this may work ok for magic.

    didn't read it but assumed they'd stay here anyway

    I just think the T-birds deserve to be favourites over the Magic in Adelaide and off a disappointing loss last week they should be keyed up to get this one

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2009 - 2:13 AM ET #7


    Vixens v Pulse over 101.5  1u  
    bad luck on steel .5. shite.

    vixens look awesome though they played crappy teams the last 2 weeks. i hope the birds can do the vixens a favour tomorrow and beat magic. I want home final. GO VIXENS.
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    Vixens v Pulse over 101.5  1u  
    bad luck on steel .5. shite.

    vixens look awesome though they played crappy teams the last 2 weeks. i hope the birds can do the vixens a favour tomorrow and beat magic. I want home final. GO VIXENS.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2009 - 7:47 AM ET #8

    wow, just saw that score in the Vixens game today  
     
    surely the Pulse will be put on notice. Maybe a merger with another team could / should be on the cards. Not quite sure of my geography across the ditch but the Pulse is based in Wellington, whoever is nearby needs to absorb that club. Their losing margins the last few weeks (save for their maiden win last week) are a bit of a blight on the competition imo. 
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    wow, just saw that score in the Vixens game today  
     
    surely the Pulse will be put on notice. Maybe a merger with another team could / should be on the cards. Not quite sure of my geography across the ditch but the Pulse is based in Wellington, whoever is nearby needs to absorb that club. Their losing margins the last few weeks (save for their maiden win last week) are a bit of a blight on the competition imo. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2009 - 8:17 PM ET #9

    While it may over examining, I think Thunderbirds have decent incentive to win this even though it doesn't change their position on the ladder. Chances are that if they beat the Magic they will play them in the preliminary with the Magic off three games in Australia.

    Whereas if the Magic finish top they would have to play them after a weeks rest if they managed to beat the Vixens in Melbourne in the prelim.

    That said I am not backing them. Thunderbirds put together a stretch of 4 games where they won by an average of 23. However, their record against the other top 4 teams is not very impressive:
    R1: away to firebirds W12 - the exception downplay R1
    R3: home to Vixens L6
    R5: away to Vixens L8
    R8 home to Firebirds W1
    R13: away to Steel L9

    So while they have tended to beat up on the weaker teams, their record against the better teams is far from impressive.

    Magic were far from impressive last week despite beating Fever by 11. However, they did break the winning in Australia hoodoo. Magic have been in Adelaide for best part of a week, which should have them fairly focused and ready.

    Think the odds are about right, but have a feeling Magic may get this. No bet for me.

    Gonna play the under though. Magic have conceded 42.3 and thunderbirds 45.3.

    Thunderbirds v Magic under 98.5  1.5u


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    While it may over examining, I think Thunderbirds have decent incentive to win this even though it doesn't change their position on the ladder. Chances are that if they beat the Magic they will play them in the preliminary with the Magic off three games in Australia.

    Whereas if the Magic finish top they would have to play them after a weeks rest if they managed to beat the Vixens in Melbourne in the prelim.

    That said I am not backing them. Thunderbirds put together a stretch of 4 games where they won by an average of 23. However, their record against the other top 4 teams is not very impressive:
    R1: away to firebirds W12 - the exception downplay R1
    R3: home to Vixens L6
    R5: away to Vixens L8
    R8 home to Firebirds W1
    R13: away to Steel L9

    So while they have tended to beat up on the weaker teams, their record against the better teams is far from impressive.

    Magic were far from impressive last week despite beating Fever by 11. However, they did break the winning in Australia hoodoo. Magic have been in Adelaide for best part of a week, which should have them fairly focused and ready.

    Think the odds are about right, but have a feeling Magic may get this. No bet for me.

    Gonna play the under though. Magic have conceded 42.3 and thunderbirds 45.3.

    Thunderbirds v Magic under 98.5  1.5u


     
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    good find there bino with the t-birds record re top end teams. I was thinking about that last night actually and checking off their defeats to the vixens, and the one that really stood out to me was their complete struggle to get over the firebirds at home.

    magic were fairly impressive keeping the fever at bay last week in pretty trying circumstances over in perth. They might just enter this game a little more battle-hardened than the t-birds, who've been floating along against mediocre opposition for the past month or so.

    crunching the numbers it does look like this total should be at least a couple of goals lower. I've got 99 at my book and while the word "logic" generally has no place in sports wagering, on this occasion the under does look the LOGICAL play

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    good find there bino with the t-birds record re top end teams. I was thinking about that last night actually and checking off their defeats to the vixens, and the one that really stood out to me was their complete struggle to get over the firebirds at home.

    magic were fairly impressive keeping the fever at bay last week in pretty trying circumstances over in perth. They might just enter this game a little more battle-hardened than the t-birds, who've been floating along against mediocre opposition for the past month or so.

    crunching the numbers it does look like this total should be at least a couple of goals lower. I've got 99 at my book and while the word "logic" generally has no place in sports wagering, on this occasion the under does look the LOGICAL play

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2009 - 11:14 PM ET #11

    rite bio, besides the finals last year birds v magic v vixens have all gone under 100 goals.  i think magic as well but for a vixens supporter, i hope birds will win.
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    rite bio, besides the finals last year birds v magic v vixens have all gone under 100 goals.  i think magic as well but for a vixens supporter, i hope birds will win.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2009 - 11:59 PM ET #12

    talked myself into a unit on the magic.

    what tipped me is that i can see the magic GK and GD causing more problems for the adelaide shooters than vice versa, which may be the difference in the game.

    adelaide have a similar, arguably better, combo to the fever who were made to shoot a lot of long range shots as they had trouble getting it inside to the mad stork. beveridge has been shooting well but i am not sure she will deal with the physicality and athleticism of williams and her offsider.

    Plus the money appears to have been for the Magic

    Magic ML $1.95  1u
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    talked myself into a unit on the magic.

    what tipped me is that i can see the magic GK and GD causing more problems for the adelaide shooters than vice versa, which may be the difference in the game.

    adelaide have a similar, arguably better, combo to the fever who were made to shoot a lot of long range shots as they had trouble getting it inside to the mad stork. beveridge has been shooting well but i am not sure she will deal with the physicality and athleticism of williams and her offsider.

    Plus the money appears to have been for the Magic

    Magic ML $1.95  1u
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2009 - 1:37 AM ET #13

    mate im at the pub and watchin the game. the last hour b4 the game, birds price dropped from $1.88 to $1.70 with magic blowing out to $2.00. lines were birds -1.5. i had a little flutter on birds at -1.5.  total is too close at the moment, projected score 94-96 total goals.  GO VIXENS
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    mate im at the pub and watchin the game. the last hour b4 the game, birds price dropped from $1.88 to $1.70 with magic blowing out to $2.00. lines were birds -1.5. i had a little flutter on birds at -1.5.  total is too close at the moment, projected score 94-96 total goals.  GO VIXENS
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2009 - 2:27 AM ET #14

    Thunderbirds v Magic under 98.5  1.5u

    gee magic was very disappointing today. been the best team all year, i get the feeling they r going to be knocked out in straight sets in the finals. VIXENS everything is in ur favor now, dont blow it. def will be at the game next week.
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    Thunderbirds v Magic under 98.5  1.5u

    gee magic was very disappointing today. been the best team all year, i get the feeling they r going to be knocked out in straight sets in the finals. VIXENS everything is in ur favor now, dont blow it. def will be at the game next week.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2009 - 2:29 AM ET #15

    oh by the way well done mate
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    oh by the way well done mate
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2009 - 5:32 AM ET #16

    couldn't have been more wrong on my assessment, magic shooters were hopeless today, while beveredge was very impressive, pretty much doing what she liked against both magic defenders they put on her. she would have to be a decent chance for a starting spot in the australian team.

    still, always tomorrow.
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    couldn't have been more wrong on my assessment, magic shooters were hopeless today, while beveredge was very impressive, pretty much doing what she liked against both magic defenders they put on her. she would have to be a decent chance for a starting spot in the australian team.

    still, always tomorrow.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2009 - 6:54 AM ET #17

    So the Firebirds need a nine point win to leap-frog the Steel into the semis ?  hmmmmm, the conspiracy theorist in me wonders whether we could see another "underarm" incident tomorrow evening ?!

    I guess it's not the Australian way to step aside for your opposition but in this instance, I wonder ......... IF the Firebirds are six or seven goals to the good at three quarter time, might the Fever *cough cough* allow the Firebirds to achieve the margin of victory they require ??

     

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    So the Firebirds need a nine point win to leap-frog the Steel into the semis ?  hmmmmm, the conspiracy theorist in me wonders whether we could see another "underarm" incident tomorrow evening ?!

    I guess it's not the Australian way to step aside for your opposition but in this instance, I wonder ......... IF the Firebirds are six or seven goals to the good at three quarter time, might the Fever *cough cough* allow the Firebirds to achieve the margin of victory they require ??

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2009 - 7:49 AM ET #18

    Also think that total is a tad whopping given the circumstances. With the stakes being so high for QLD, I can see them aiming up a little harder than usual when they're on defense.
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    Also think that total is a tad whopping given the circumstances. With the stakes being so high for QLD, I can see them aiming up a little harder than usual when they're on defense.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2009 - 9:11 PM ET #19

    agree about the under i have played it. 

    my feeling is fever would dislike firebirds more than steel, they made a big deal about beating the swifts and that making the swifts the worst team in australia. rivalry is stronger between australian teams than australian teams and NZ teams. 

    while most players don't show much emotion there is a fair bit of passive agressive stuff, like when they roll the ball away rather than giving it to the opposition after a penalty or pretend they are going to pick it up for them and don't.

    they may play badly but i don't think they will lay down on purpose.

    Mystics +4.5  1u
    Both teams have shown a bit in recent weeks, apart from tactix's mauling last week.

    Think this will be a close game and given both teams tendancy to choke getting 4.5 seems a good deal.

    Fever +6  1u
    Firebirds look to have been running on empty the last couple of weeks and can't see the trip back from nz then to perth doing them much good. As a generalisation teams under pressure to win don't seem to play any better.

    Fever showed they could play with them in QLD going down by 3 after leading most of the way.

    Fever v Firebirds under 109  1u
    as JT says seems a decent chance this will be hard fought, with firebirds knowing they have to get stops to win big. 

    the better defensive teams tbirds and magic kept the fever under 40 in perth. so if fbirds can crank the d it could be an easy under. not sure this will happen but am betting it wont be a free wheeling shootout.


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    agree about the under i have played it. 

    my feeling is fever would dislike firebirds more than steel, they made a big deal about beating the swifts and that making the swifts the worst team in australia. rivalry is stronger between australian teams than australian teams and NZ teams. 

    while most players don't show much emotion there is a fair bit of passive agressive stuff, like when they roll the ball away rather than giving it to the opposition after a penalty or pretend they are going to pick it up for them and don't.

    they may play badly but i don't think they will lay down on purpose.

    Mystics +4.5  1u
    Both teams have shown a bit in recent weeks, apart from tactix's mauling last week.

    Think this will be a close game and given both teams tendancy to choke getting 4.5 seems a good deal.

    Fever +6  1u
    Firebirds look to have been running on empty the last couple of weeks and can't see the trip back from nz then to perth doing them much good. As a generalisation teams under pressure to win don't seem to play any better.

    Fever showed they could play with them in QLD going down by 3 after leading most of the way.

    Fever v Firebirds under 109  1u
    as JT says seems a decent chance this will be hard fought, with firebirds knowing they have to get stops to win big. 

    the better defensive teams tbirds and magic kept the fever under 40 in perth. so if fbirds can crank the d it could be an easy under. not sure this will happen but am betting it wont be a free wheeling shootout.


     
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    another sellout at the "cage" tonight  
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    another sellout at the "cage" tonight  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    another sellout at the "cage" tonight  

    ahem, the "jungle" that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    another sellout at the "cage" tonight  

    ahem, the "jungle" that is

     
     
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    Just read a blurb in the local rag (Courier Mail) , the Firebirds need to win by 10+ OR hold the Fever below 45 goals to get the jump on the Steel.
     
     
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    Just read a blurb in the local rag (Courier Mail) , the Firebirds need to win by 10+ OR hold the Fever below 45 goals to get the jump on the Steel.
     
     
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