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    Because it's never too early...AFL Round 9 H2H Odds

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    HeadOverHeart
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    Posted: May. 18, 2008 - 10:58 PM ET #1

    Cats 1.22
    Pies 3.80
    ---
    Blues 1.72
    Dockers 2.00
    ---
    Bombers 2.75
    Tigers 1.40
    ---
    Power 1.60
    Your Grand Final Winning Sydney Swans 2.20
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    Eagles 3.35
    Crows 1.28
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    Lions 1.33
    Saints 3.00
    ---
    Demons 8.00
    Hawks 1.05
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    Bulldogs 1.47
    Kangaroos 2.50
    ---

    Right off the bat with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, I think the Doggies are a fair price against a shaky North side, esp. at Telstra.  I am also very curious to see what points the books will be giving the Swans.  Fremantle could end up being someone's favorite wager of the round, I can see it now (but Telstra favors the Blues).  Tigers/Dogs/Cats multi looks too good to pass up at 2.51.

    But that is just all speculation.

    Let's get it going again for Round Nine guys and take what the books owe us! 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Cats 1.22
    Pies 3.80
    ---
    Blues 1.72
    Dockers 2.00
    ---
    Bombers 2.75
    Tigers 1.40
    ---
    Power 1.60
    Your Grand Final Winning Sydney Swans 2.20
    ---
    Eagles 3.35
    Crows 1.28
    ---
    Lions 1.33
    Saints 3.00
    ---
    Demons 8.00
    Hawks 1.05
    ---
    Bulldogs 1.47
    Kangaroos 2.50
    ---

    Right off the bat with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, I think the Doggies are a fair price against a shaky North side, esp. at Telstra.  I am also very curious to see what points the books will be giving the Swans.  Fremantle could end up being someone's favorite wager of the round, I can see it now (but Telstra favors the Blues).  Tigers/Dogs/Cats multi looks too good to pass up at 2.51.

    But that is just all speculation.

    Let's get it going again for Round Nine guys and take what the books owe us! 

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2008 - 11:04 PM ET #2

    Oh you beat me mate, I was just doing the same thing
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    Oh you beat me mate, I was just doing the same thing
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 12:45 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    Cats 1.22
    Pies 3.80
    ---
    Blues 1.72
    Dockers 2.00
    ---
    Bombers 2.75
    Tigers 1.40
    ---
    Power 1.60
    Your Grand Final Winning Sydney Swans 2.20
    ---
    Eagles 3.35
    Crows 1.28
    ---
    Lions 1.33
    Saints 3.00
    ---
    Demons 8.00
    Hawks 1.05
    ---
    Bulldogs 1.47
    Kangaroos 2.50
    ---

    Right off the bat with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, I think the Doggies are a fair price against a shaky North side, esp. at Telstra.  I am also very curious to see what points the books will be giving the Swans.  Fremantle could end up being someone's favorite wager of the round, I can see it now (but Telstra favors the Blues).  Tigers/Dogs/Cats multi looks too good to pass up at 2.51.

    But that is just all speculation.

    Let's get it going again for Round Nine guys and take what the books owe us! 

    Wonder who you could be talking about regarding the Freo beat

    Not sure exactly that they are 'due' just yet.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    Cats 1.22
    Pies 3.80
    ---
    Blues 1.72
    Dockers 2.00
    ---
    Bombers 2.75
    Tigers 1.40
    ---
    Power 1.60
    Your Grand Final Winning Sydney Swans 2.20
    ---
    Eagles 3.35
    Crows 1.28
    ---
    Lions 1.33
    Saints 3.00
    ---
    Demons 8.00
    Hawks 1.05
    ---
    Bulldogs 1.47
    Kangaroos 2.50
    ---

    Right off the bat with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, I think the Doggies are a fair price against a shaky North side, esp. at Telstra.  I am also very curious to see what points the books will be giving the Swans.  Fremantle could end up being someone's favorite wager of the round, I can see it now (but Telstra favors the Blues).  Tigers/Dogs/Cats multi looks too good to pass up at 2.51.

    But that is just all speculation.

    Let's get it going again for Round Nine guys and take what the books owe us! 

    Wonder who you could be talking about regarding the Freo beat

    Not sure exactly that they are 'due' just yet.....

     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 12:48 AM ET #4

    Oh...and by the way your Bulldogs pick in the last round cost you a perfect weekend...lucky they got as close as they did to covering, but not quiet 
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    Oh...and by the way your Bulldogs pick in the last round cost you a perfect weekend...lucky they got as close as they did to covering, but not quiet 
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 1:59 AM ET #5

    Well let me all say that you all did well except me who got 50% on his picks.
     
    I think the Bombers will upset the Tigers and I think Buddy will kick another 8 this weekend.
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    Well let me all say that you all did well except me who got 50% on his picks.
     
    I think the Bombers will upset the Tigers and I think Buddy will kick another 8 this weekend.
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 2:02 AM ET #6

    Sydney played Port in round 2. Why are we playing them again
     
    .......... who was smoking what when they came up with this schedule ?
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    Sydney played Port in round 2. Why are we playing them again
     
    .......... who was smoking what when they came up with this schedule ?
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 2:21 AM ET #7

    HoH I agree with you on WB I played them 2u at $1.50.
     
    Can't see the Saints troubling Brisbane or West Coast troubling Adelaide.
     
    Ecoute I think Essendon should get some more players back so may give Richmond a shake. However, I like the way RIchmond are going about it. They pulled back 3 goals against Geelong late in the fourth quarter (to cover my Geelong 1-39) when the game was lost and they could have lied down and got beaten by 10 goals. Whereas Essendon die lie down in the second half and lost by nearly 100.
     
    In my opinion the argument that gee isn't it great Knights isn't putting extra players in defense is off the point. Even if they are playing one on one they need to focus on defence way more.
     
    I think Tigers will handle them but will wait for the teams.
     
     
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    HoH I agree with you on WB I played them 2u at $1.50.
     
    Can't see the Saints troubling Brisbane or West Coast troubling Adelaide.
     
    Ecoute I think Essendon should get some more players back so may give Richmond a shake. However, I like the way RIchmond are going about it. They pulled back 3 goals against Geelong late in the fourth quarter (to cover my Geelong 1-39) when the game was lost and they could have lied down and got beaten by 10 goals. Whereas Essendon die lie down in the second half and lost by nearly 100.
     
    In my opinion the argument that gee isn't it great Knights isn't putting extra players in defense is off the point. Even if they are playing one on one they need to focus on defence way more.
     
    I think Tigers will handle them but will wait for the teams.
     
     
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 2:26 AM ET #8

    Put together the following cause i think there is value in the Brisbane and Adelaide prices
     
    Geelong to win / Adelaide to win / Richmond to win / Brisbane Lions to win / Hawthorn to win / Western Bulldogs to win
     
    1u @ $4.55
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    Put together the following cause i think there is value in the Brisbane and Adelaide prices
     
    Geelong to win / Adelaide to win / Richmond to win / Brisbane Lions to win / Hawthorn to win / Western Bulldogs to win
     
    1u @ $4.55
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 2:30 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by ecoute:

    Sydney played Port in round 2. Why are we playing them again
     
    .......... who was smoking what when they came up with this schedule ?

    Your telling me. A lot of teams plays teams twice earlier than the teams they play once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecoute:

    Sydney played Port in round 2. Why are we playing them again
     
    .......... who was smoking what when they came up with this schedule ?

    Your telling me. A lot of teams plays teams twice earlier than the teams they play once.
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 7:34 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by binomial:

    HoH I agree with you on WB I played them 2u at $1.50.
     
    Can't see the Saints troubling Brisbane or West Coast troubling Adelaide.
     
    Ecoute I think Essendon should get some more players back so may give Richmond a shake. However, I like the way RIchmond are going about it. They pulled back 3 goals against Geelong late in the fourth quarter (to cover my Geelong 1-39) when the game was lost and they could have lied down and got beaten by 10 goals. Whereas Essendon die lie down in the second half and lost by nearly 100.
     
    In my opinion the argument that gee isn't it great Knights isn't putting extra players in defense is off the point. Even if they are playing one on one they need to focus on defence way more.
     
    I think Tigers will handle them but will wait for the teams.
     
     


    I respected Knights as a player but what he is doing now is what Dennis Pagan stubbornly did with Carlton, ie, seeing his side thrashed but not playing defensive football.

    Still there is a flipside to this. Call it cynical but the Dons are getting people through the turnstiles and members due to the exitement of high scoring games and new kids. Maybe when Lucas comes back, Lloyd will regain his form and the goals will come. Who knows.

    Any team have to play the Cats, Dogs and Hawks twice in the first 12 rounds ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by binomial:

    HoH I agree with you on WB I played them 2u at $1.50.
     
    Can't see the Saints troubling Brisbane or West Coast troubling Adelaide.
     
    Ecoute I think Essendon should get some more players back so may give Richmond a shake. However, I like the way RIchmond are going about it. They pulled back 3 goals against Geelong late in the fourth quarter (to cover my Geelong 1-39) when the game was lost and they could have lied down and got beaten by 10 goals. Whereas Essendon die lie down in the second half and lost by nearly 100.
     
    In my opinion the argument that gee isn't it great Knights isn't putting extra players in defense is off the point. Even if they are playing one on one they need to focus on defence way more.
     
    I think Tigers will handle them but will wait for the teams.
     
     


    I respected Knights as a player but what he is doing now is what Dennis Pagan stubbornly did with Carlton, ie, seeing his side thrashed but not playing defensive football.

    Still there is a flipside to this. Call it cynical but the Dons are getting people through the turnstiles and members due to the exitement of high scoring games and new kids. Maybe when Lucas comes back, Lloyd will regain his form and the goals will come. Who knows.

    Any team have to play the Cats, Dogs and Hawks twice in the first 12 rounds ?
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 8:52 AM ET #11

    Melbourne is playing hawks again?  Played them in round 1
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    Melbourne is playing hawks again?  Played them in round 1
     
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    i reckon the schedule used to be you play a different team rounds 1 thru 15 then play who you played in round 1 in round 16 again, but i could be wrong.
     
    how much worse is essendon's list than richmonds? i could try and argue that there is very little:
    - ruck symonds v hille: at there best not that much given hille kicks more goals
    - foley and k johnson v stanton, watson and lovett: foley is the pick but at their best the essendon two get a lot of it and lovett is increasing in value
    - defenders: richmond have a bunch of no names, i like king and i think moore will be a quality player, essendon have all australians michael and fletcher and ryder is an excellent player. mcphee moves around but he was all australian one year also from memory.
     
    i could go on but the point i am trying to make is that essendon's list is not that bad it is more there players are playing badly and poorly coached.
     
    i reckon pevrill and jason johnson will go to adelaide and/or sydney and be valuable players, maybe kangas they have done well with discards as well. i am not sure what pevrill did wrong he hasn't been in the best form but how can you be when you keep getting dropped.
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    i reckon the schedule used to be you play a different team rounds 1 thru 15 then play who you played in round 1 in round 16 again, but i could be wrong.
     
    how much worse is essendon's list than richmonds? i could try and argue that there is very little:
    - ruck symonds v hille: at there best not that much given hille kicks more goals
    - foley and k johnson v stanton, watson and lovett: foley is the pick but at their best the essendon two get a lot of it and lovett is increasing in value
    - defenders: richmond have a bunch of no names, i like king and i think moore will be a quality player, essendon have all australians michael and fletcher and ryder is an excellent player. mcphee moves around but he was all australian one year also from memory.
     
    i could go on but the point i am trying to make is that essendon's list is not that bad it is more there players are playing badly and poorly coached.
     
    i reckon pevrill and jason johnson will go to adelaide and/or sydney and be valuable players, maybe kangas they have done well with discards as well. i am not sure what pevrill did wrong he hasn't been in the best form but how can you be when you keep getting dropped.
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 5:45 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle1976:

    Oh...and by the way your Bulldogs pick in the last round cost you a perfect weekend...lucky they got as close as they did to covering, but not quiet 


    Thanks!   But I did mention, in bold to be sure, that it was a small play.  Had to, right or wrong, as the Dogs were perfect and the Dockers just got beaten by Melbourne.  Had to play it, had to, but it was small (0.4 units) as I had already hit on Geelong (0.5 units), Brisbane (2 units), and Adelaide (1 unit).

    Leaned St. Kilda +9.5 and Kangaroos -25.5 but didn't play either.  Would have been a wash either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle1976:

    Oh...and by the way your Bulldogs pick in the last round cost you a perfect weekend...lucky they got as close as they did to covering, but not quiet 


    Thanks!   But I did mention, in bold to be sure, that it was a small play.  Had to, right or wrong, as the Dogs were perfect and the Dockers just got beaten by Melbourne.  Had to play it, had to, but it was small (0.4 units) as I had already hit on Geelong (0.5 units), Brisbane (2 units), and Adelaide (1 unit).

    Leaned St. Kilda +9.5 and Kangaroos -25.5 but didn't play either.  Would have been a wash either way.
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2008 - 5:50 PM ET #14

    Now:
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    Lions 1.28
    Saints 3.35
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    Brisbane getting some love.

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    Now:
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    Lions 1.28
    Saints 3.35
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    Brisbane getting some love.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmanea:

    Melbourne is playing hawks again?  Played them in round 1

    Poor Melbourne, wouldn't wish it on anyone 

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmanea:

    Melbourne is playing hawks again?  Played them in round 1

    Poor Melbourne, wouldn't wish it on anyone 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by binomial:

    i could go on but the point i am trying to make is that essendon's list is not that bad it is more there players are playing badly and poorly coached.
     
    i reckon pevrill and jason johnson will go to adelaide and/or sydney and be valuable players, maybe kangas they have done well with discards as well. i am not sure what pevrill did wrong he hasn't been in the best form but how can you be when you keep getting dropped.

    Binomial. I agree. Watching the Dons play a few games now it looks like they are trying to play a game they are not used. passing when they shouldn't, sharing the ball when they shouldn't etc.......

    Peverill was a great player when he came from the Dees but had his role converted to a tagger. I think for him it comes down to that. As for JJ he would be hoping he doesn't end up with his "brother". JJ I think is suffering from injury more than anything but I could be wrong on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binomial:

    i could go on but the point i am trying to make is that essendon's list is not that bad it is more there players are playing badly and poorly coached.
     
    i reckon pevrill and jason johnson will go to adelaide and/or sydney and be valuable players, maybe kangas they have done well with discards as well. i am not sure what pevrill did wrong he hasn't been in the best form but how can you be when you keep getting dropped.

    Binomial. I agree. Watching the Dons play a few games now it looks like they are trying to play a game they are not used. passing when they shouldn't, sharing the ball when they shouldn't etc.......

    Peverill was a great player when he came from the Dees but had his role converted to a tagger. I think for him it comes down to that. As for JJ he would be hoping he doesn't end up with his "brother". JJ I think is suffering from injury more than anything but I could be wrong on that.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by binomial::

    i could go on but the point i am trying to make is that essendon's list is not that bad it is more there players are playing badly and poorly coached.

     
    i reckon pevrill and jason johnson will go to adelaide and/or sydney and be valuable players, maybe kangas they have done well with discards as well. i am not sure what pevrill did wrong he hasn't been in the best form but how can you be when you keep getting dropped.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecoute:

    Binomial. I agree. Watching the Dons play a few games now it looks like they are trying to play a game they are not used. passing when they shouldn't, sharing the ball when they shouldn't etc.......

    Peverill was a great player when he came from the Dees but had his role converted to a tagger. I think for him it comes down to that. As for JJ he would be hoping he doesn't end up with his "brother". JJ I think is suffering from injury more than anything but I could be wrong on that.


    Pev yes but JJ won't get picked up by anybody IMO, he's way too slow. He's been terrible in the 2's. Pev dropped a little form but thats about it in my eyes.

    I agree the Don's list isn't bad, any team that had their injuries and lack of depth would get beaten by 10+ goals. It happened to a very good side last year, the bulldogs. The last 7 games they got beaten by over 10 goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binomial::

    i could go on but the point i am trying to make is that essendon's list is not that bad it is more there players are playing badly and poorly coached.

     
    i reckon pevrill and jason johnson will go to adelaide and/or sydney and be valuable players, maybe kangas they have done well with discards as well. i am not sure what pevrill did wrong he hasn't been in the best form but how can you be when you keep getting dropped.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecoute:

    Binomial. I agree. Watching the Dons play a few games now it looks like they are trying to play a game they are not used. passing when they shouldn't, sharing the ball when they shouldn't etc.......

    Peverill was a great player when he came from the Dees but had his role converted to a tagger. I think for him it comes down to that. As for JJ he would be hoping he doesn't end up with his "brother". JJ I think is suffering from injury more than anything but I could be wrong on that.


    Pev yes but JJ won't get picked up by anybody IMO, he's way too slow. He's been terrible in the 2's. Pev dropped a little form but thats about it in my eyes.

    I agree the Don's list isn't bad, any team that had their injuries and lack of depth would get beaten by 10+ goals. It happened to a very good side last year, the bulldogs. The last 7 games they got beaten by over 10 goals.

     
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    I'll stick with this thread as there is more discussion here, and simply asking others to do the same so we only have one thread to follow....but of course you guys are big boys, and thus can do what you want. 
     
    Anyway...on to my lastest thought.  Bris Vs Saints.  Just watched Sports Tonight and saw Ball (Saints best player last week) walking around with a 'moon' boot on his foot...one would suggest he isn't playing this week, and also the Gehrig situation where I have just read that he has been placed on the long term injury list as per AFL website.  I don't think this will seriously hurt the Saints apart from a simple structure point of view...what do I mean...when the season started the Siants would have great expectations of having Gehrig, Riewoldt & Koschitzke (only will play in this game, Kosi), thus making it alot easier for Bris defenders (as they are light on in this area) to handle the reduced fire power of the Saints. 
     
    Then we look at the other end for Bris...and put simply, where the hell are the Siants 'bigger' defenders going to be able to handle Brown and Bradshaw. Also the Saints engine room lacks power (as their midfield doesn't scare anyone), there backs are only good when there is pressure from up the field and they simply have too many 'Quarterbacks' in their side such as Fisher, Goddard & Montagna who reaaly don't know how to complete in the air and then win the contested footy once it hits the ground. 
     
    Their lack of pace, and players they accquired from other sides in Gardiner, Schneider & King (even though King is the best of them all) haven't really brought much to the table, and IMO their playing list is aging to the extent that the window of opportunity to win the flag is slipping away and this will be quickly realised later in the year when they miss out on the finals, or just make up the numbers come September!
     
    And one final thought...resigning Gram for 3 more year...WOW, what were they thinking, I mean, you watch this guy play...a very very good carrier of the footy, but the end result usually isn't good, have a look and you'll see what I mean, so IMO I really don't like the way the Siants are looking at their future as they will 'stay' competitive in the next couple of seasons...but really they are only a sub-par side heading in the same direction as Freo! 
     
    And my prediction regarding the mid-season retirement of Peter Bell I think will still happen.
     
    After saying all that, both teams are 4-4 which has scared me off the line, and the way I am leaning with this weeks games I will more than likely play a multi with ML's Geel, Bris & Adel at the price of $2.08 as per Sportingbet currently, and also maybe one line game.
     
    Any thoughts on the above welcome
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    I'll stick with this thread as there is more discussion here, and simply asking others to do the same so we only have one thread to follow....but of course you guys are big boys, and thus can do what you want. 
     
    Anyway...on to my lastest thought.  Bris Vs Saints.  Just watched Sports Tonight and saw Ball (Saints best player last week) walking around with a 'moon' boot on his foot...one would suggest he isn't playing this week, and also the Gehrig situation where I have just read that he has been placed on the long term injury list as per AFL website.  I don't think this will seriously hurt the Saints apart from a simple structure point of view...what do I mean...when the season started the Siants would have great expectations of having Gehrig, Riewoldt & Koschitzke (only will play in this game, Kosi), thus making it alot easier for Bris defenders (as they are light on in this area) to handle the reduced fire power of the Saints. 
     
    Then we look at the other end for Bris...and put simply, where the hell are the Siants 'bigger' defenders going to be able to handle Brown and Bradshaw. Also the Saints engine room lacks power (as their midfield doesn't scare anyone), there backs are only good when there is pressure from up the field and they simply have too many 'Quarterbacks' in their side such as Fisher, Goddard & Montagna who reaaly don't know how to complete in the air and then win the contested footy once it hits the ground. 
     
    Their lack of pace, and players they accquired from other sides in Gardiner, Schneider & King (even though King is the best of them all) haven't really brought much to the table, and IMO their playing list is aging to the extent that the window of opportunity to win the flag is slipping away and this will be quickly realised later in the year when they miss out on the finals, or just make up the numbers come September!
     
    And one final thought...resigning Gram for 3 more year...WOW, what were they thinking, I mean, you watch this guy play...a very very good carrier of the footy, but the end result usually isn't good, have a look and you'll see what I mean, so IMO I really don't like the way the Siants are looking at their future as they will 'stay' competitive in the next couple of seasons...but really they are only a sub-par side heading in the same direction as Freo! 
     
    And my prediction regarding the mid-season retirement of Peter Bell I think will still happen.
     
    After saying all that, both teams are 4-4 which has scared me off the line, and the way I am leaning with this weeks games I will more than likely play a multi with ML's Geel, Bris & Adel at the price of $2.08 as per Sportingbet currently, and also maybe one line game.
     
    Any thoughts on the above welcome
     
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    Posted: May. 20, 2008 - 5:25 PM ET #19

    Miracle................great info.  Saints will definitely be up against it against a resurgent Lions squad.
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    Miracle................great info.  Saints will definitely be up against it against a resurgent Lions squad.
     
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    Good writeup Miracle. I'm not saying don't be wary of the line (for the lions) but not because they are 4/4.

    Its the reason why both Port and the Lions haven't been talked about as serious finalists until the last week or two. They both had the hardest starts to the season playing most of the top 6 teams.

    The thing that has caught my eye with the lions is their attack on the football. It is close to the best in the competition at the moment. They have been ferocious across the whole ground, everybody giving 100%. Tackling and pressure on the opposition is as good as it gets. That with the fact they have their strongest side in at the moment and playing at home should put them in a strong position to win.

    And IMO St Kilda while it probably has an equally talented list just hasn't been hard enough or passionate enough trying to get the footy.

    Just my 2 cents

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    Good writeup Miracle. I'm not saying don't be wary of the line (for the lions) but not because they are 4/4.

    Its the reason why both Port and the Lions haven't been talked about as serious finalists until the last week or two. They both had the hardest starts to the season playing most of the top 6 teams.

    The thing that has caught my eye with the lions is their attack on the football. It is close to the best in the competition at the moment. They have been ferocious across the whole ground, everybody giving 100%. Tackling and pressure on the opposition is as good as it gets. That with the fact they have their strongest side in at the moment and playing at home should put them in a strong position to win.

    And IMO St Kilda while it probably has an equally talented list just hasn't been hard enough or passionate enough trying to get the footy.

    Just my 2 cents

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2008 - 6:29 AM ET #21

    Lines are out as per Sportingbet:
     
    Coll Vs Geel (-27.5)
     
    Carl Vs Freo (Pk)
     
    Port (-12.5) Vs Syd
     
    West Coast Vs Adel (-21.5)
     
    Ess Vs Rich (-19.5)
     
    Bris (-26.5) Vs St Kilda
     
    Melb Vs Haw (-48.5)
     
    Western Bull (-17.5) Vs Kangaroos
     
    There you have them guys, and after a quick review looking at the Hawks line. 
     
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    Lines are out as per Sportingbet:
     
    Coll Vs Geel (-27.5)
     
    Carl Vs Freo (Pk)
     
    Port (-12.5) Vs Syd
     
    West Coast Vs Adel (-21.5)
     
    Ess Vs Rich (-19.5)
     
    Bris (-26.5) Vs St Kilda
     
    Melb Vs Haw (-48.5)
     
    Western Bull (-17.5) Vs Kangaroos
     
    There you have them guys, and after a quick review looking at the Hawks line. 
     
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2008 - 9:33 AM ET #22

    Not crazy about many of these.
     
    Western? 
     
    Collingwood?
     
    Melba Toast?
     
    Sydney? - actually, I think I like Sydney. 
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    Not crazy about many of these.
     
    Western? 
     
    Collingwood?
     
    Melba Toast?
     
    Sydney? - actually, I think I like Sydney. 
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2008 - 7:26 PM ET #23

    Bulldogs and Swans look good, Freo and Hawthorn might look better later....

    Hmmmmmm...
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    Bulldogs and Swans look good, Freo and Hawthorn might look better later....

    Hmmmmmm...
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2008 - 7:27 PM ET #24

    ROUND NINE  

    $15,000 @ $1.25 ON BRISBANE V ST KILDA
    $10,000 @ $1.33 ON BRISBANE V ST KILDA
    $10,000 @ $8.97 ON GEE/FRE/ADEL/RICH/BRI/HAW/WBULL MULTI
    $10,000 @ $1.63 ON GEEL/BRIS/HAWT MULTI
    $5,600 @ $1.33 ON BRISBANE V ST KILDA
    $5,000 @ $2.00 ON FREMANTLE V CARLTON
    $5,000 @ $2.00 ON FREMANTLE V CARLTON
    $5,000 @ $4.88 ON GEE/PORT/ADEL/BRIS/WBULL MULTI
    $4,000 @ $1.33 ON BRISBANE V ST KILDA


    Brisbane and Docks looking sharp......

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    ROUND NINE  

    $15,000 @ $1.25 ON BRISBANE V ST KILDA
    $10,000 @ $1.33 ON BRISBANE V ST KILDA
    $10,000 @ $8.97 ON GEE/FRE/ADEL/RICH/BRI/HAW/WBULL MULTI
    $10,000 @ $1.63 ON GEEL/BRIS/HAWT MULTI
    $5,600 @ $1.33 ON BRISBANE V ST KILDA
    $5,000 @ $2.00 ON FREMANTLE V CARLTON
    $5,000 @ $2.00 ON FREMANTLE V CARLTON
    $5,000 @ $4.88 ON GEE/PORT/ADEL/BRIS/WBULL MULTI
    $4,000 @ $1.33 ON BRISBANE V ST KILDA


    Brisbane and Docks looking sharp......

     
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2008 - 9:57 PM ET #25

    I'm not crazy over those lines either.

    Freo IMO looks a possibility with Jamieson down and the blues defence in an even worse state than last week. But freo has burnt me too weeks in a row, so I'm a bit hesitant.

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    I'm not crazy over those lines either.

    Freo IMO looks a possibility with Jamieson down and the blues defence in an even worse state than last week. But freo has burnt me too weeks in a row, so I'm a bit hesitant.

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