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    hawaiiboy396
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 2:10 AM ET #151

    GL
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    GL
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 2:15 AM ET #152

    adding:

    G. Thomas over EB Hagan (-150) 3u
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    adding:

    G. Thomas over EB Hagan (-150) 3u
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 3:36 AM ET #153

    looks good sims_key BOL hope it's a great card 
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    looks good sims_key BOL hope it's a great card 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 9:52 AM ET #154

    Looks like Gesink is not on form for the mountains
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    Looks like Gesink is not on form for the mountains
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 11:44 AM ET #155

    # S. Sanchez over F. Schelck (-105) 4*
    # Basso over Gesink (-182) 3*
    # Velits over Roche (-130) 2*
    # Cunego over Uran (-154) 2*
    # Coppel over Karpets (-125) 2*
    # Taaramae over Devenens (-143) 2*
    # S. Sanches over Evans (+120) 2*
    # Vandeveld over Klöden (-111) 1*
    # LLS over Voeckler (+140) 1*
    # Charteau over Rolland (-118) 1*

    # Sanchez Win (+1200) 1*
    # Moncoutié Win (+1900) 0.5*

    7-5, +21.01u
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    # S. Sanchez over F. Schelck (-105) 4*
    # Basso over Gesink (-182) 3*
    # Velits over Roche (-130) 2*
    # Cunego over Uran (-154) 2*
    # Coppel over Karpets (-125) 2*
    # Taaramae over Devenens (-143) 2*
    # S. Sanches over Evans (+120) 2*
    # Vandeveld over Klöden (-111) 1*
    # LLS over Voeckler (+140) 1*
    # Charteau over Rolland (-118) 1*

    # Sanchez Win (+1200) 1*
    # Moncoutié Win (+1900) 0.5*

    7-5, +21.01u
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 11:46 AM ET #156

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky7th:

    Got matchups with 2 of my 3 bookies and so far I like:

    # S. Sanchez over F. Schelck (-105) 4*
    Might be a dangerous matchup for my biggest bet of the Tour so far, but I realy like Sanchez in this stage.
    Sammy and Contador have talked about working together with Sammy saying that if Contador attacked, he would co-op with him if he managed to hold on.
    Also it's a lot of downhill here too and while Sammy is one of, if not the best downhill rider in this race, Frank is among the worst.
    After reading a lot of rumors for tomorrows stage, everyting suggest that Contador will attack and that will mean that Sammy will also do so...

    # Basso over Gesink (-182) 3*
    A lot of juice to be me, but Basso should be right up there with the best and might even fight for a top 3 place. I expect Gesink to be a bit down on the list (like among top 40 or so...)

    # Velits over Roche (-130) 2*
    Velits should be among the top 10 imo and I don't see Roche getting a better result than top 25 at best..

    # Cunego over Uran (-154) 2*
    Cunego is another rider that should be up there and get a top 15 place while a healty Uran would be an outsider, he feelt banged up after his fall earlier this week and it was reported that he had some pain in his knee something that's not good on a mt. stage (was close to place 3* on it cause of that, but don't trust Cunego enough yet while Uran might be better than reported)

    # Coppel over Karpets (-125) 2*
    # Taaramae over Devenens (-143) 2*
    # S. Sanches over Evans (+120) 2*
    # Vandeveld over Klöden (-111) 1*
    # LLS over Voeckler (+140) 1*
    # Charteau over Rolland (-118) 1*


    Well played sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky7th:

    Got matchups with 2 of my 3 bookies and so far I like:

    # S. Sanchez over F. Schelck (-105) 4*
    Might be a dangerous matchup for my biggest bet of the Tour so far, but I realy like Sanchez in this stage.
    Sammy and Contador have talked about working together with Sammy saying that if Contador attacked, he would co-op with him if he managed to hold on.
    Also it's a lot of downhill here too and while Sammy is one of, if not the best downhill rider in this race, Frank is among the worst.
    After reading a lot of rumors for tomorrows stage, everyting suggest that Contador will attack and that will mean that Sammy will also do so...

    # Basso over Gesink (-182) 3*
    A lot of juice to be me, but Basso should be right up there with the best and might even fight for a top 3 place. I expect Gesink to be a bit down on the list (like among top 40 or so...)

    # Velits over Roche (-130) 2*
    Velits should be among the top 10 imo and I don't see Roche getting a better result than top 25 at best..

    # Cunego over Uran (-154) 2*
    Cunego is another rider that should be up there and get a top 15 place while a healty Uran would be an outsider, he feelt banged up after his fall earlier this week and it was reported that he had some pain in his knee something that's not good on a mt. stage (was close to place 3* on it cause of that, but don't trust Cunego enough yet while Uran might be better than reported)

    # Coppel over Karpets (-125) 2*
    # Taaramae over Devenens (-143) 2*
    # S. Sanches over Evans (+120) 2*
    # Vandeveld over Klöden (-111) 1*
    # LLS over Voeckler (+140) 1*
    # Charteau over Rolland (-118) 1*


    Well played sir.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 11:48 AM ET #157

    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    Stage 12:

    Andy over Contador (+140) 3u  
    Cunego over Cadel (+205) 1u  
    Gesink over Basso (+165) 2u  
    Kloden over Vandevelde (-125) 2u 
    Kreuziger over Arroyo (+125) 3u  
    Roche over Danielson (+100) 3u  
    Gilbert over Rojas (-270) 4u  
    Sorensen over Monfort (-130) 2u  
    G. Thomas over EB Hagan (-150) 3u  


    Stage 12: 5-4 +6.20 units
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    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    Stage 12:

    Andy over Contador (+140) 3u  
    Cunego over Cadel (+205) 1u  
    Gesink over Basso (+165) 2u  
    Kloden over Vandevelde (-125) 2u 
    Kreuziger over Arroyo (+125) 3u  
    Roche over Danielson (+100) 3u  
    Gilbert over Rojas (-270) 4u  
    Sorensen over Monfort (-130) 2u  
    G. Thomas over EB Hagan (-150) 3u  


    Stage 12: 5-4 +6.20 units
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 11:49 AM ET #158

    2011 TOUR:  +52.65 units

    Stage 1:  2-2 +0.00 units

    Stage 2:  4-3 +1.15 units
    Stage 3:  1-1 -0.40 units
    Stage 4:  2-1 +15.60 units
    Stage 5:  2-0 +7.00 units
    Stage 6:  2-4 -3.00 units
    Stage 7:  1-0 +3.00 units
    Stage 8:  4-2 +7.35 units
    Stage 9:  3-2 +9.90 units
    Stage 10: 3-3 +3.20 units
    Stage 11: 4-5 +2.65 units 
    Stage 12: 5-4 +6.20 units
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    2011 TOUR:  +52.65 units

    Stage 1:  2-2 +0.00 units

    Stage 2:  4-3 +1.15 units
    Stage 3:  1-1 -0.40 units
    Stage 4:  2-1 +15.60 units
    Stage 5:  2-0 +7.00 units
    Stage 6:  2-4 -3.00 units
    Stage 7:  1-0 +3.00 units
    Stage 8:  4-2 +7.35 units
    Stage 9:  3-2 +9.90 units
    Stage 10: 3-3 +3.20 units
    Stage 11: 4-5 +2.65 units 
    Stage 12: 5-4 +6.20 units
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 11:52 AM ET #159

    Nice Work
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    Nice Work
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 11:52 AM ET #160

    nicely done lucky7th...didn't see that sanchez to win play but if you played it, nicely done.
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    nicely done lucky7th...didn't see that sanchez to win play but if you played it, nicely done.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 12:02 PM ET #161

    nicely done 
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    nicely done 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 12:27 PM ET #162

    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    nicely done lucky7th...didn't see that sanchez to win play but if you played it, nicely done.


    Posted that I liked it, but yeah, forgot to post the unit size on it...
    You did well yourself too
    Don't realy like tomorrows stage as I expect a lot of GC contender matchups and I don't see them riding hard tomorrow cause of the long decent to the finnish-- I expect a break to go in tomorrow and with Sky saying that they would send either Thomas or Boasson in a break today, I expect Boasson to get his chance tomorrow.. He might not win, but I hope for a nice h2h matchup with him tomorrow...
    I might also ride Sammy again tomorrow in h2h matchups with him riding away from some of the other big names on the decent, but well see...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    nicely done lucky7th...didn't see that sanchez to win play but if you played it, nicely done.


    Posted that I liked it, but yeah, forgot to post the unit size on it...
    You did well yourself too
    Don't realy like tomorrows stage as I expect a lot of GC contender matchups and I don't see them riding hard tomorrow cause of the long decent to the finnish-- I expect a break to go in tomorrow and with Sky saying that they would send either Thomas or Boasson in a break today, I expect Boasson to get his chance tomorrow.. He might not win, but I hope for a nice h2h matchup with him tomorrow...
    I might also ride Sammy again tomorrow in h2h matchups with him riding away from some of the other big names on the decent, but well see...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 1:36 PM ET #163

    yeah, i like sammy again tomorrow but price should be steep.
    contador might be a good play too if you get plus money.
    thor and rojas can climb so i will look at them as well.

    casar, chartreau, barredo should all take a shot soon, but i don't bet stage winners apart from sprinters.
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    yeah, i like sammy again tomorrow but price should be steep.
    contador might be a good play too if you get plus money.
    thor and rojas can climb so i will look at them as well.

    casar, chartreau, barredo should all take a shot soon, but i don't bet stage winners apart from sprinters.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 1:38 PM ET #164

    it seems as if there is no doping (apart from voekler maybe) b/c everyone is so equal.  this happened a bit last year as well.  seems honest but not as exciting.  contador and andy look human for a change....that's the way it should be.
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    it seems as if there is no doping (apart from voekler maybe) b/c everyone is so equal.  this happened a bit last year as well.  seems honest but not as exciting.  contador and andy look human for a change....that's the way it should be.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 1:57 PM ET #165

    Already got lines out for the stage winner at one of my bookies not the one offering the best lines on winners):

    Gilbert +900
    Boasson +900 (a bit suprised to see him as a fav, but gues they've taken the big possibility for a breakaway into account..)
    Chavanel +1400
    Moncoutie +1900
    Sammy +1900
    Pineau +1900
    Evans +1900
    Luis Leon +1900
    Cunego +2400
    Velits +2400
    Rojas +2400
    Uran +4400

    and then the "big names":
    Hushovd +4400
    Contador +9900
    Andy +9900
    Frank +9900

    Fwiw, I don't expect neither Contador, Andy or Frank to do anything on this one as neither of them is good enough on descending..

    Agree on your last post sims...
    Imo, both Evans and Sammy got a chance to challenge both Schlecks and Contador this year..


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    Already got lines out for the stage winner at one of my bookies not the one offering the best lines on winners):

    Gilbert +900
    Boasson +900 (a bit suprised to see him as a fav, but gues they've taken the big possibility for a breakaway into account..)
    Chavanel +1400
    Moncoutie +1900
    Sammy +1900
    Pineau +1900
    Evans +1900
    Luis Leon +1900
    Cunego +2400
    Velits +2400
    Rojas +2400
    Uran +4400

    and then the "big names":
    Hushovd +4400
    Contador +9900
    Andy +9900
    Frank +9900

    Fwiw, I don't expect neither Contador, Andy or Frank to do anything on this one as neither of them is good enough on descending..

    Agree on your last post sims...
    Imo, both Evans and Sammy got a chance to challenge both Schlecks and Contador this year..


     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 2:31 PM ET #166

    Sammy over Voeckler @ -154, Casar over Gusev @ -118 (I expect him in a break and tomorrow it might go all the way..), Coppel over Rolland @ +110 (Rolland worked hard for Voeckler today..) and Uran over Cunego @+130 (If Boasson don't get in a break, Uran will...)

    The only book I got line on so far was smart enough to match up EBH with Gilbert
    Hope for some better matchups with the other two cause it wasn
    't much I liked with this one..
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    Sammy over Voeckler @ -154, Casar over Gusev @ -118 (I expect him in a break and tomorrow it might go all the way..), Coppel over Rolland @ +110 (Rolland worked hard for Voeckler today..) and Uran over Cunego @+130 (If Boasson don't get in a break, Uran will...)

    The only book I got line on so far was smart enough to match up EBH with Gilbert
    Hope for some better matchups with the other two cause it wasn
    't much I liked with this one..
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 3:19 PM ET #167

    like sammy and casar and uran there.

    be careful with rolland...he can climb, esp if there are illegal substances on that team.  
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    like sammy and casar and uran there.

    be careful with rolland...he can climb, esp if there are illegal substances on that team.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 7:50 PM ET #168

    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    like sammy and casar and uran there.

    be careful with rolland...he can climb, esp if there are illegal substances on that team.  


    Right about that + Coppel have struggled after the crash he was in so I'll probably just drop that one...

    My other bookies got lines out to so it looks like I'll play these:

    Sammy over Voeckler @ -154 3*
    Sammy over Cunego @ -154 3*
    Sammy over Evans @ +114 2*
    Casar over Gusev @ -118 2*
    Casar over Hesjedal @ -118 1*
    Taaramae over Hesjedal @ -133 1*
    Uran over Cunego @ +130 1*
    Uran over Velits @ -111 1*
    Chavanel over Kreuziger @ +100 1*

    For the winner I like, but not shure if I'll play yet:
    Boasson @ +900 1*
    Gilbert @ +900 1*
    Uran @ +5400 0.5*

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    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    like sammy and casar and uran there.

    be careful with rolland...he can climb, esp if there are illegal substances on that team.  


    Right about that + Coppel have struggled after the crash he was in so I'll probably just drop that one...

    My other bookies got lines out to so it looks like I'll play these:

    Sammy over Voeckler @ -154 3*
    Sammy over Cunego @ -154 3*
    Sammy over Evans @ +114 2*
    Casar over Gusev @ -118 2*
    Casar over Hesjedal @ -118 1*
    Taaramae over Hesjedal @ -133 1*
    Uran over Cunego @ +130 1*
    Uran over Velits @ -111 1*
    Chavanel over Kreuziger @ +100 1*

    For the winner I like, but not shure if I'll play yet:
    Boasson @ +900 1*
    Gilbert @ +900 1*
    Uran @ +5400 0.5*

     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2011 - 10:55 PM ET #169

    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:



    Stage 12: 5-4 +6.20 units


    sims doing work. Good job so far buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:



    Stage 12: 5-4 +6.20 units


    sims doing work. Good job so far buddy
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2011 - 2:56 AM ET #170

    cannot believe it took 5dimes so long to put out lines tonite. 


    Stage 13:


    Sanchez over Evans (+135) 3u

    Uran over Velits (+150) 2u

    Peraud over De Weert (+155) 2u

    CA Sorensen over Rolland (+190) 1u

    Chavanel over Kreuziger (-140) 2u

    Levi over Danielson (+160) 2u

    Casar over Hesjedal (-110) 2u

    Cunego over Voeckler (-135) 3u

    Rojas Gil over Gilbert (+180) 2u
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    cannot believe it took 5dimes so long to put out lines tonite. 


    Stage 13:


    Sanchez over Evans (+135) 3u

    Uran over Velits (+150) 2u

    Peraud over De Weert (+155) 2u

    CA Sorensen over Rolland (+190) 1u

    Chavanel over Kreuziger (-140) 2u

    Levi over Danielson (+160) 2u

    Casar over Hesjedal (-110) 2u

    Cunego over Voeckler (-135) 3u

    Rojas Gil over Gilbert (+180) 2u
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2011 - 3:07 AM ET #171

    GL
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    GL
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2011 - 3:28 AM ET #172

    Ended up with:

    Sammy over Voeckler @ -154 4* (a 4* two days in a row )
    Cunego over Voeckler @ -154 3*
    Sammy over Evans @ +114 3*
    Sammy over Cunego @ -154 2*
    Casar over Gusev @ -118 2*
    Casar over Hesjedal @ -118 2*
    Chavanel over Kreuziger @ -139 2*
    Taaramae over Hesjedal @ -133 1*
    Uran over Velits @ -111 1*

    No play on stage winner for me either..



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    Ended up with:

    Sammy over Voeckler @ -154 4* (a 4* two days in a row )
    Cunego over Voeckler @ -154 3*
    Sammy over Evans @ +114 3*
    Sammy over Cunego @ -154 2*
    Casar over Gusev @ -118 2*
    Casar over Hesjedal @ -118 2*
    Chavanel over Kreuziger @ -139 2*
    Taaramae over Hesjedal @ -133 1*
    Uran over Velits @ -111 1*

    No play on stage winner for me either..



     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2011 - 12:07 PM ET #173

    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    cannot believe it took 5dimes so long to put out lines tonite. 


    Stage 13:


    Sanchez over Evans (+135) 3u  
    Uran over Velits (+150) 2u  
    Peraud over De Weert (+155) 2u  
    CA Sorensen over Rolland (+190) 1u  
    Chavanel over Kreuziger (-140) 2u  
    Levi over Danielson (+160) 2u  
    Casar over Hesjedal (-110) 2u  
    Cunego over Voeckler (-135) 3u  
    Rojas Gil over Gilbert (+180) 2u  

    Stage 13: 3-6 -6.00 units


    that could've been much worse.  tough stage to cap imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    cannot believe it took 5dimes so long to put out lines tonite. 


    Stage 13:


    Sanchez over Evans (+135) 3u  
    Uran over Velits (+150) 2u  
    Peraud over De Weert (+155) 2u  
    CA Sorensen over Rolland (+190) 1u  
    Chavanel over Kreuziger (-140) 2u  
    Levi over Danielson (+160) 2u  
    Casar over Hesjedal (-110) 2u  
    Cunego over Voeckler (-135) 3u  
    Rojas Gil over Gilbert (+180) 2u  

    Stage 13: 3-6 -6.00 units


    that could've been much worse.  tough stage to cap imo.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2011 - 12:07 PM ET #174

    2011 TOUR:  +46.65 units

    Stage 1:  2-2 +0.00 units

    Stage 2:  4-3 +1.15 units
    Stage 3:  1-1 -0.40 units
    Stage 4:  2-1 +15.60 units
    Stage 5:  2-0 +7.00 units
    Stage 6:  2-4 -3.00 units
    Stage 7:  1-0 +3.00 units
    Stage 8:  4-2 +7.35 units
    Stage 9:  3-2 +9.90 units
    Stage 10: 3-3 +3.20 units
    Stage 11: 4-5 +2.65 units 
    Stage 12: 5-4 +6.20 units
    Stage 13: 3-6 -6.00 units
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    2011 TOUR:  +46.65 units

    Stage 1:  2-2 +0.00 units

    Stage 2:  4-3 +1.15 units
    Stage 3:  1-1 -0.40 units
    Stage 4:  2-1 +15.60 units
    Stage 5:  2-0 +7.00 units
    Stage 6:  2-4 -3.00 units
    Stage 7:  1-0 +3.00 units
    Stage 8:  4-2 +7.35 units
    Stage 9:  3-2 +9.90 units
    Stage 10: 3-3 +3.20 units
    Stage 11: 4-5 +2.65 units 
    Stage 12: 5-4 +6.20 units
    Stage 13: 3-6 -6.00 units
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2011 - 12:11 PM ET #175

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky7th:

    Ended up with:

    Sammy over Voeckler @ -154 4* (a 4* two days in a row )
    Cunego over Voeckler @ -154 3*
    Sammy over Evans @ +114 3*
    Sammy over Cunego @ -154 2*
    Casar over Gusev @ -118 2*
    Casar over Hesjedal @ -118 2*
    Chavanel over Kreuziger @ -139 2*
    Taaramae over Hesjedal @ -133 1*
    Uran over Velits @ -111 1*

    No play on stage winner for me either..




    could've been much worse for you too if sanchez finished 2 places back from where he did.  big break there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky7th:

    Ended up with:

    Sammy over Voeckler @ -154 4* (a 4* two days in a row )
    Cunego over Voeckler @ -154 3*
    Sammy over Evans @ +114 3*
    Sammy over Cunego @ -154 2*
    Casar over Gusev @ -118 2*
    Casar over Hesjedal @ -118 2*
    Chavanel over Kreuziger @ -139 2*
    Taaramae over Hesjedal @ -133 1*
    Uran over Velits @ -111 1*

    No play on stage winner for me either..




    could've been much worse for you too if sanchez finished 2 places back from where he did.  big break there.
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