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    Sharks @ Sabres - Largest Bet of the Year, write up included...

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 3:31 PM ET #1

     For whatever reason the Sharks seem to have a very tough time winning in Buffalo. Since joining the league in 1992 the Sharks are just 3-17 in Buffalo. This includes a 2-7 mark from 2007 through 2018, where the assembled Sharks rosters have been loaded. The 2019 version of the Sharks don't look quite as deadly on paper as years past with some new and young pieces. The adjustment period has been on display as the Sharks are off to a shaky start coming in with a 3-5 record and a 1-3 mark on the road. The Sharks started 0-4 before they rattled off 3 wins in a row, however some bad habits crept back into their game in a 4-3 loss at home on Saturday to these same Sabres.

    Meanwhile on the other side we have a Sabres team who is off to a red hot start with a 7-1-1 mark including a 4-0 unblemished record at home. The Sabres had a good stretch in the early stages of the season last year and people were ready to call them the Cinderella team of the year before they tapered off and the Hurricanes claimed that title. It's a little premature and it remains to be seen if this years version of the Sabres learned a valuable lesson or not. Staying in the now, we'd be foolish to ignore the early season success in between the pipes by Carter Hutton. Hutton is off to a red hot start going 5-0 with a 1.39 goals against with a .953 save percentage. Hutton enters tonight's contest coming off back to back shutouts including a 47 save effort in LA. These efforts led to him being NHL's 3rd star of the week. In tonight's game Hutton will face a Sharks offense who comes in 21st in the NHL in goals and average with 2.63 per contest. Breaking that down a little further the Sharks have only scored 13 even strength goals, which is tied for second to last in the league and only slightly (2 goals) better than dead last Rangers, who have played 2 fewer games. 

    The only chance I see the Sharks having in winning this game is if they win the special teams battle. Even that I feel will be a stretch as I think Buffalo will be using it's speed, winning the puck battles and the possession game. They will limit the opportunities the Sharks get on the power play where over a third of the Sharks goals have come from this year. The Sharks do come in with the  #1 PK unit and I'd be naive to ignore it. That being said that is the only strength I see the Sharks having in this game and it could be tested by Buffalo's 4th ranked PP unit, and league leading 11 goals. The Sabres PK unit has struggled so they will be wise to stay out of the box in this game. The Sabres coaching staff should be urging the guys to stay out of the box and make the Sharks beat score 5 on 5, which again they have struggled this year to score. I'm no math wizard but 13 five on five goals in 8 games comes out to a dismal 1.65 per contest which isn't pretty by any stretch of the imagination. The success formula for the Sabres tonight is in the pudding.

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     For whatever reason the Sharks seem to have a very tough time winning in Buffalo. Since joining the league in 1992 the Sharks are just 3-17 in Buffalo. This includes a 2-7 mark from 2007 through 2018, where the assembled Sharks rosters have been loaded. The 2019 version of the Sharks don't look quite as deadly on paper as years past with some new and young pieces. The adjustment period has been on display as the Sharks are off to a shaky start coming in with a 3-5 record and a 1-3 mark on the road. The Sharks started 0-4 before they rattled off 3 wins in a row, however some bad habits crept back into their game in a 4-3 loss at home on Saturday to these same Sabres.

    Meanwhile on the other side we have a Sabres team who is off to a red hot start with a 7-1-1 mark including a 4-0 unblemished record at home. The Sabres had a good stretch in the early stages of the season last year and people were ready to call them the Cinderella team of the year before they tapered off and the Hurricanes claimed that title. It's a little premature and it remains to be seen if this years version of the Sabres learned a valuable lesson or not. Staying in the now, we'd be foolish to ignore the early season success in between the pipes by Carter Hutton. Hutton is off to a red hot start going 5-0 with a 1.39 goals against with a .953 save percentage. Hutton enters tonight's contest coming off back to back shutouts including a 47 save effort in LA. These efforts led to him being NHL's 3rd star of the week. In tonight's game Hutton will face a Sharks offense who comes in 21st in the NHL in goals and average with 2.63 per contest. Breaking that down a little further the Sharks have only scored 13 even strength goals, which is tied for second to last in the league and only slightly (2 goals) better than dead last Rangers, who have played 2 fewer games. 

    The only chance I see the Sharks having in winning this game is if they win the special teams battle. Even that I feel will be a stretch as I think Buffalo will be using it's speed, winning the puck battles and the possession game. They will limit the opportunities the Sharks get on the power play where over a third of the Sharks goals have come from this year. The Sharks do come in with the  #1 PK unit and I'd be naive to ignore it. That being said that is the only strength I see the Sharks having in this game and it could be tested by Buffalo's 4th ranked PP unit, and league leading 11 goals. The Sabres PK unit has struggled so they will be wise to stay out of the box in this game. The Sabres coaching staff should be urging the guys to stay out of the box and make the Sharks beat score 5 on 5, which again they have struggled this year to score. I'm no math wizard but 13 five on five goals in 8 games comes out to a dismal 1.65 per contest which isn't pretty by any stretch of the imagination. The success formula for the Sabres tonight is in the pudding.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 3:32 PM ET #2

    At the end of the day when it comes to sports betting we should all be looking for value spots and trying to find an edge anyway we possibly can to beat the book. I honestly feel like this one of those spots. We get a 7-1-1 team who is at home, playing much better hockey, with a red-hot goalie squaring off against a team who (for whatever reason) always struggles in Buffalo, has been struggling this year, have inconsistent goaltending in Jones and lots of questions about depth from their secondary bottom 6.

     

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    At the end of the day when it comes to sports betting we should all be looking for value spots and trying to find an edge anyway we possibly can to beat the book. I honestly feel like this one of those spots. We get a 7-1-1 team who is at home, playing much better hockey, with a red-hot goalie squaring off against a team who (for whatever reason) always struggles in Buffalo, has been struggling this year, have inconsistent goaltending in Jones and lots of questions about depth from their secondary bottom 6.

     

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 3:33 PM ET #3

    and yes I'm fading my own team tonight... for what it's worth haha

    Goodluck to anyone who tails or already on the Sabres tonight peace_5

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    and yes I'm fading my own team tonight... for what it's worth haha

    Goodluck to anyone who tails or already on the Sabres tonight peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 3:41 PM ET #4

    Every regular Joe in north america will look at this line and think "Hey I can get a 7-1 team at home who just beat their opponent 3 nights ago on the road and I get a goalie who's had 2 straight shut outs for only -110? I should bet the max on this can't miss play"

    The line stinks, I'll be on the Sharks

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    Every regular Joe in north america will look at this line and think "Hey I can get a 7-1 team at home who just beat their opponent 3 nights ago on the road and I get a goalie who's had 2 straight shut outs for only -110? I should bet the max on this can't miss play"

    The line stinks, I'll be on the Sharks

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 3:47 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by HiHowAreYa:

    Every regular Joe in north america will look at this line and think "Hey I can get a 7-1 team at home who just beat their opponent 3 nights ago on the road and I get a goalie who's had 2 straight shut outs for only -110? I should bet the max on this can't miss play" The line stinks, I'll be on the Sharks


    The Sharks are notorious for getting lots of love from Vegas when it comes to lines. They have been a very popular team to bet on in the regular season for years. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiHowAreYa:

    Every regular Joe in north america will look at this line and think "Hey I can get a 7-1 team at home who just beat their opponent 3 nights ago on the road and I get a goalie who's had 2 straight shut outs for only -110? I should bet the max on this can't miss play" The line stinks, I'll be on the Sharks


    The Sharks are notorious for getting lots of love from Vegas when it comes to lines. They have been a very popular team to bet on in the regular season for years. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 3:53 PM ET #6

    On the Sharks also, I see the Sabres tapering off a bit and this will be the game it starts imo.

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    On the Sharks also, I see the Sabres tapering off a bit and this will be the game it starts imo.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 4:56 PM ET #7

    peace

     

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    peace

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 5:22 PM ET #8

    Sharks for me too....BOL..
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    Sharks for me too....BOL..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 5:33 PM ET #9

    1 unit play on the Coyotes as well (don't want to open a new thread) 

    bol all

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    1 unit play on the Coyotes as well (don't want to open a new thread) 

    bol all

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 6:21 PM ET #10

    same season revenge and first game home off the road can be tricky and agree that line is very scary as Vegas only wants even action

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    same season revenge and first game home off the road can be tricky and agree that line is very scary as Vegas only wants even action

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 7:22 PM ET #11

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    Agree with you.  Not a good start down 1-0.  Not a big deal.  Sharks felt like a pseudo bet.  We are on the right side.
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    Agree with you.  Not a good start down 1-0.  Not a big deal.  Sharks felt like a pseudo bet.  We are on the right side.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 7:38 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Agree with you.  Not a good start down 1-0.  Not a big deal.  Sharks felt like a pseudo bet.  We are on the right side.


    Make that down 2, but honestly I still wouldn’t change my bet. The Sabres are carrying the play. They’ve had a ton of pressure and scoring chances. Lot of hockey left

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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Agree with you.  Not a good start down 1-0.  Not a big deal.  Sharks felt like a pseudo bet.  We are on the right side.


    Make that down 2, but honestly I still wouldn’t change my bet. The Sabres are carrying the play. They’ve had a ton of pressure and scoring chances. Lot of hockey left

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 7:38 PM ET #14

    Wellp, at least your team is going to win! Good luck on the next one. Sharks getting outshot, but made there's count.
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    Wellp, at least your team is going to win! Good luck on the next one. Sharks getting outshot, but made there's count.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 7:44 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by uscsilb24:

    Wellp, at least your team is going to win! Good luck on the next one. Sharks getting outshot, but made there's count.


    It’s the first period and it’s far from over either way

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscsilb24:

    Wellp, at least your team is going to win! Good luck on the next one. Sharks getting outshot, but made there's count.


    It’s the first period and it’s far from over either way

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 7:51 PM ET #16

    2 goal leads in the NHL are blown on a regular basis these days. GL a lot of game left.

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    2 goal leads in the NHL are blown on a regular basis these days. GL a lot of game left.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 8:41 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by uscsilb24:

    Wellp, at least your team is going to win! Good luck on the next one. Sharks getting outshot, but made there's count.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%E2%80%930_lead_is_the_worst_lead
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    Wellp, at least your team is going to win! Good luck on the next one. Sharks getting outshot, but made there's count.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%E2%80%930_lead_is_the_worst_lead
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 8:49 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    same season revenge and first game home off the road can be tricky and agree that line is very scary as Vegas only wants even action


    Surprisingly, both the bet % and money % were around 50 for Sharks and Sabres. WAY closer than any other game tonight. I also don't believe Vegas wants even action for every game, especially in the NHL and MLB. If so, they do a real bad job of achieving that goal. I used to think that as well, as it makes sense that they should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    same season revenge and first game home off the road can be tricky and agree that line is very scary as Vegas only wants even action


    Surprisingly, both the bet % and money % were around 50 for Sharks and Sabres. WAY closer than any other game tonight. I also don't believe Vegas wants even action for every game, especially in the NHL and MLB. If so, they do a real bad job of achieving that goal. I used to think that as well, as it makes sense that they should.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJMay:


    Surprisingly, both the bet % and money % were around 50 for Sharks and Sabres. WAY closer than any other game tonight. I also don't believe Vegas wants even action for every game, especially in the NHL and MLB. If so, they do a real bad job of achieving that goal. I used to think that as well, as it makes sense that they should.


    I'm pretty sure that's EXACTLY what they want - even action on both sides = no risk and a 10% guranteed earn.  I KNOW  locals want even action. They buy each other out when there's too much on one side for them individually to avoid getting hit hard. At least around my area, a group of them buy each other off when needed.
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    Surprisingly, both the bet % and money % were around 50 for Sharks and Sabres. WAY closer than any other game tonight. I also don't believe Vegas wants even action for every game, especially in the NHL and MLB. If so, they do a real bad job of achieving that goal. I used to think that as well, as it makes sense that they should.


    I'm pretty sure that's EXACTLY what they want - even action on both sides = no risk and a 10% guranteed earn.  I KNOW  locals want even action. They buy each other out when there's too much on one side for them individually to avoid getting hit hard. At least around my area, a group of them buy each other off when needed.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 8:58 PM ET #20

    3-2 Sabres now not looking good for sharks

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    3-2 Sabres now not looking good for sharks

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 9:37 PM ET #21

    Congrats - nice hit.
    Be the Hammer Not the Nail
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    Congrats - nice hit.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 9:39 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy_Train:

    Congrats - nice hit.

     

    thank you sir... it wasn't pretty but as a W is a W an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy_Train:

    Congrats - nice hit.

     

    thank you sir... it wasn't pretty but as a W is a W an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 9:43 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by SJSharks99:

     

    thank you sir... it wasn't pretty but as a W is a W an_cheers


    Be the Hammer Not the Nail
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJSharks99:

     

    thank you sir... it wasn't pretty but as a W is a W an_cheers


     
    Coin86
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 9:44 PM ET #24

    RIGHT ON BUDDY!!!!!!

     

    SABRES !!!!!!!!!

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    RIGHT ON BUDDY!!!!!!

     

    SABRES !!!!!!!!!

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2019 - 9:46 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin86:

    RIGHT ON BUDDY!!!!!!   SABRES !!!!!!!!!

     

    thanks bud an_2drinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coin86:

    RIGHT ON BUDDY!!!!!!   SABRES !!!!!!!!!

     

    thanks bud an_2drinks

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