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    How Big Of a Favorite Will Hawks/Kings Be Over Rangers?

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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 2:34 PM ET #26

    Yes, +150 or +180 for the Rangers as dogs.
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    Yes, +150 or +180 for the Rangers as dogs.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 2:36 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDogs1979:

    Yes, +150 or +180 for the Rangers as dogs.

     

    Oh ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDogs1979:

    Yes, +150 or +180 for the Rangers as dogs.

     

    Oh ok

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 2:41 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by HookEmHorns22:

    Hawks Rangers Montreal and LA are all good for hockey. Rangers and Hawks have the #1 and #2 most loyal fans according to Forbes. Not sure what that means but just some useless info

    no offense but ten years ago no one cared for the hawks, my isles sold more tickets and merchandise

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    Quote Originally Posted by HookEmHorns22:

    Hawks Rangers Montreal and LA are all good for hockey. Rangers and Hawks have the #1 and #2 most loyal fans according to Forbes. Not sure what that means but just some useless info

    no offense but ten years ago no one cared for the hawks, my isles sold more tickets and merchandise

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 2:42 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDogs1979:

    If it's Quick vs. Lundqvist, I'm taking under 5 every game.

     might even add a couple of under 4.5's

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDogs1979:

    If it's Quick vs. Lundqvist, I'm taking under 5 every game.

     might even add a couple of under 4.5's

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 2:42 PM ET #30

    Are the isles going to be more successful when their new arena opens?
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    Are the isles going to be more successful when their new arena opens?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 2:50 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDogs1979:

    Are the isles going to be more successful when their new arena opens?

    as much as I hate it, I would think so. 100% more marketable,mass transit 24/7. wang might be getting like 50% or 60% bought out.i don't think the move will hurt them, damn how much worse can it get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderDogs1979:

    Are the isles going to be more successful when their new arena opens?

    as much as I hate it, I would think so. 100% more marketable,mass transit 24/7. wang might be getting like 50% or 60% bought out.i don't think the move will hurt them, damn how much worse can it get?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 2:50 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by potvin:

    no offense but ten years ago no one cared for the hawks, my isles sold more tickets and merchandise

     

    Right and now they are the Hawks are the ones in that position.Their playoff ratings have been through the roof the last 4 years and merchandise.They have put hockey back on the map so to speak.They are now the #1 rated franchise in all of sports and in 2006 they were the worst rated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potvin:

    no offense but ten years ago no one cared for the hawks, my isles sold more tickets and merchandise

     

    Right and now they are the Hawks are the ones in that position.Their playoff ratings have been through the roof the last 4 years and merchandise.They have put hockey back on the map so to speak.They are now the #1 rated franchise in all of sports and in 2006 they were the worst rated.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:07 PM ET #33

    You expect me to believe a hockey team is the #1 OVERALL rated franchise in all sports?? Whatever the fck you're smoking, please inform me where you're getting it from so I can get on this imaginary cloud with you....
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    You expect me to believe a hockey team is the #1 OVERALL rated franchise in all sports?? Whatever the fck you're smoking, please inform me where you're getting it from so I can get on this imaginary cloud with you....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:14 PM ET #34

    Not sports but hockey yes
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    Not sports but hockey yes
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:17 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by wheaty :

    You expect me to believe a hockey team is the #1 OVERALL rated franchise in all sports?? Whatever the fck you're smoking, please inform me where you're getting it from so I can get on this imaginary cloud with you....

     

    I know for sure they were ranked #1 on a couple of things in all of sports by like Forbes and some other thins.Let me google and get the info,

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheaty :

    You expect me to believe a hockey team is the #1 OVERALL rated franchise in all sports?? Whatever the fck you're smoking, please inform me where you're getting it from so I can get on this imaginary cloud with you....

     

    I know for sure they were ranked #1 on a couple of things in all of sports by like Forbes and some other thins.Let me google and get the info,

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:19 PM ET #36

    I'll definitely give you hockey. The hawks are on the verge of a dynasty here and I have no doubt their #1 in hockey. But no chance in all sports. The Dallas cowboys are worth more than the ENTIRE nhl...
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    I'll definitely give you hockey. The hawks are on the verge of a dynasty here and I have no doubt their #1 in hockey. But no chance in all sports. The Dallas cowboys are worth more than the ENTIRE nhl...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:19 PM ET #37

    +they're
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    +they're
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:26 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by wheaty :

    You expect me to believe a hockey team is the #1 OVERALL rated franchise in all sports?? Whatever the fck you're smoking, please inform me where you're getting it from so I can get on this imaginary cloud with you....

     

    Sorry was a bit off as I saw this weeks ago.Ok they are #1 in all of sports in efficiency index and as the smartest spender.Sorry didn't mean to mislead my bad.

     

    https://thechicagohomer.com/2014/04/24/the-blackhawks-are-good-with-money-the-cubs-are-not/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chicago-blackhawks-st-louis-cardinals-120000988.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheaty :

    You expect me to believe a hockey team is the #1 OVERALL rated franchise in all sports?? Whatever the fck you're smoking, please inform me where you're getting it from so I can get on this imaginary cloud with you....

     

    Sorry was a bit off as I saw this weeks ago.Ok they are #1 in all of sports in efficiency index and as the smartest spender.Sorry didn't mean to mislead my bad.

     

    https://thechicagohomer.com/2014/04/24/the-blackhawks-are-good-with-money-the-cubs-are-not/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chicago-blackhawks-st-louis-cardinals-120000988.html

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:28 PM ET #39

    Manchester United is the #1 team in all of sports as far as sports go with value in a franchise. Real Madrid is #2
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    Manchester United is the #1 team in all of sports as far as sports go with value in a franchise. Real Madrid is #2
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:28 PM ET #40

    Yankees and Cowboys are tied for #3
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    Yankees and Cowboys are tied for #3
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:32 PM ET #41

    It's funny real Madrid is second, I thought I read somewhere the club was on the verge of bankruptcy. Maybe I misread it lol. Needless to say, I was 100% positive no hockey team was in the top 5 much less #1 overall. Im not hating on the hawks, Im just saying...
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    It's funny real Madrid is second, I thought I read somewhere the club was on the verge of bankruptcy. Maybe I misread it lol. Needless to say, I was 100% positive no hockey team was in the top 5 much less #1 overall. Im not hating on the hawks, Im just saying...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:34 PM ET #42

    you have to watch those forbes numbers.it's like the antique roadshow, just because an estimator says the picture is worth a million dollars, does not mean you will get paid a million for it.just like home appraisals they are always over more than it's worth this is so they can charge you more taxes
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    you have to watch those forbes numbers.it's like the antique roadshow, just because an estimator says the picture is worth a million dollars, does not mean you will get paid a million for it.just like home appraisals they are always over more than it's worth this is so they can charge you more taxes
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:42 PM ET #43

    Anyway back to what I was saying is the Hawks have put hockey back on the map nationally the last 5 years.Of course other things have helped but they are the main reason.

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    Anyway back to what I was saying is the Hawks have put hockey back on the map nationally the last 5 years.Of course other things have helped but they are the main reason.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:49 PM ET #44

    There is no hockey team in the Top 25 as far as value goes
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    There is no hockey team in the Top 25 as far as value goes
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:50 PM ET #45

    Here's the list for hockey teams

    https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/
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    Here's the list for hockey teams

    https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 3:59 PM ET #46

    I wasn't sure how far down a hockey team would be, so I just limited it to 5 just in case lol. I didn't really figure there would be one inside the top 50 actually. So I will say I am a bit shocked
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    I wasn't sure how far down a hockey team would be, so I just limited it to 5 just in case lol. I didn't really figure there would be one inside the top 50 actually. So I will say I am a bit shocked
     
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    Pot- I think the sale of the clippers probably just semented these net worths. If anything they may go up. I mean the bucks sold for 550 mil and that was WAY low. Two weeks after they were bought, the new owners got another offer for 1 billion... So I would say, if anything some of these numbers may be low.
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    Pot- I think the sale of the clippers probably just semented these net worths. If anything they may go up. I mean the bucks sold for 550 mil and that was WAY low. Two weeks after they were bought, the new owners got another offer for 1 billion... So I would say, if anything some of these numbers may be low.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 4:05 PM ET #48

    That's just going by how much a franchise is worth of course any hockey team isn't going to be up there
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    That's just going by how much a franchise is worth of course any hockey team isn't going to be up there
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 4:18 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by HookEmHorns22:

    Here's the list for hockey teams

    https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/


    interesting statement in that Forbes article that "Gary New York" should pay attention to.

    "No longer burdened by a weak currency (NHL players are paid in U.S. dollars) and antiquated arenas, even small market Canadian teams like the Edmonton Oilers (moving into a $480 million arena in three years) and Calgary Flames–financial doormats a decade ago–are among the financially strongest franchises in the NHL. Another small market team, the Jets, are now worth $340 million, twice what True North Sports & Entertainment paid to rescue the franchise from Atlanta two years ago. While teams like the Florida Panthers have to almost give tickets away and lose money, the Jets have a waiting list for tickets and posted operating income of $6.3 million last season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HookEmHorns22:

    Here's the list for hockey teams

    https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/


    interesting statement in that Forbes article that "Gary New York" should pay attention to.

    "No longer burdened by a weak currency (NHL players are paid in U.S. dollars) and antiquated arenas, even small market Canadian teams like the Edmonton Oilers (moving into a $480 million arena in three years) and Calgary Flames–financial doormats a decade ago–are among the financially strongest franchises in the NHL. Another small market team, the Jets, are now worth $340 million, twice what True North Sports & Entertainment paid to rescue the franchise from Atlanta two years ago. While teams like the Florida Panthers have to almost give tickets away and lose money, the Jets have a waiting list for tickets and posted operating income of $6.3 million last season.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2014 - 4:25 PM ET #50

    Potvin: No one cared about the hawks because the owner "Dollar Bill" Wirtz was dirt cheap and insane, he wouldnt even let people in chicago watch the games unless it was nationally televised...hard to follow a team with an owner like that, Rocky took over and changed the culture.
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    Potvin: No one cared about the hawks because the owner "Dollar Bill" Wirtz was dirt cheap and insane, he wouldnt even let people in chicago watch the games unless it was nationally televised...hard to follow a team with an owner like that, Rocky took over and changed the culture.
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