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    Why do people still doubt the Chiefs against the bills?

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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 9:31 AM ET #1

    The chiefs were 11-6 last year and won on the road in the playoffs. Now this year at 15-2, they have home field, well rested after the bills had a war, you think they’re going to lose? 

    If the bills were home this is a different story. Chiefs ML IMO

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    The chiefs were 11-6 last year and won on the road in the playoffs. Now this year at 15-2, they have home field, well rested after the bills had a war, you think they’re going to lose? 

    If the bills were home this is a different story. Chiefs ML IMO

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 9:48 AM ET #2

    KC will win 

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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 9:53 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by JoseAlonso787:

    KC will win

    Buffalo will win

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoseAlonso787:

    KC will win

    Buffalo will win

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 10:01 AM ET #4

    Buffalo all day for me.  If they lose, so be it.  an_cheers

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    Buffalo all day for me.  If they lose, so be it.  an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 10:15 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by JFelty:

    Quote Originally Posted by JoseAlonso787: KC will win Buffalo will win
    lol you must be a bookie promoting losing bets 

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoseAlonso787: KC will win Buffalo will win
    lol you must be a bookie promoting losing bets 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 10:21 AM ET #6

    Philly vs Buffalo, ship it. 

    A little too much heat on the zebras this week. Allen is on a mission. 

    And if you think Washington is winning this game. Take a break, reassess your gambling strategies! Now way in hell Washington is winning in Philly. 

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    Philly vs Buffalo, ship it. 

    A little too much heat on the zebras this week. Allen is on a mission. 

    And if you think Washington is winning this game. Take a break, reassess your gambling strategies! Now way in hell Washington is winning in Philly. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 10:23 AM ET #7

    Trying to use last year to predict the next outcome is silly.

     

    It works to a degree.  It easy enough to predict next year division winner for example.  But obviously your not gonna get them all.

    No one doubting the chiefs.  Your the one who really doubting them and need reasons to confirm chiefs is the right side. Since it probably the side your going take.

    If anyone taking Bills it mostly hoping they win.  They did beat the Ravens with D. Henry.  Which honestly is still the better team.  If they played 10 times Bills would probably lose 7/8 times.

    Chiefs maybe 15-2.  They really only have one loss.  Guess the only team to beat them this year.

    Chiefs this year have been BARELY winning.  They have NOT been as dominate. A LOT of calls went their way.

    Even the TEXANS game.  Mahomes got two BS roughing the passer call. The second one extended the drive that lead to Kelce TD.  That game was close till the 4th qtr.  Texans beat them in almost EVERY METRIC that matter except one, the score.

    Who knows who wins.  Its anyone game.  Seems like its Allen year though. He playing at an MVP level.  Mahommes isn't.  COOK is doing way better than PACHECO.

    Bills have the better QB and RB performance THIS YEAR.

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    Trying to use last year to predict the next outcome is silly.

     

    It works to a degree.  It easy enough to predict next year division winner for example.  But obviously your not gonna get them all.

    No one doubting the chiefs.  Your the one who really doubting them and need reasons to confirm chiefs is the right side. Since it probably the side your going take.

    If anyone taking Bills it mostly hoping they win.  They did beat the Ravens with D. Henry.  Which honestly is still the better team.  If they played 10 times Bills would probably lose 7/8 times.

    Chiefs maybe 15-2.  They really only have one loss.  Guess the only team to beat them this year.

    Chiefs this year have been BARELY winning.  They have NOT been as dominate. A LOT of calls went their way.

    Even the TEXANS game.  Mahomes got two BS roughing the passer call. The second one extended the drive that lead to Kelce TD.  That game was close till the 4th qtr.  Texans beat them in almost EVERY METRIC that matter except one, the score.

    Who knows who wins.  Its anyone game.  Seems like its Allen year though. He playing at an MVP level.  Mahommes isn't.  COOK is doing way better than PACHECO.

    Bills have the better QB and RB performance THIS YEAR.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 10:33 AM ET #8

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    KC’s run defense is even more shored up than it was last postseason. 

    KC’s “underperformed” all the way to a true 15-1 record with a revenge game at home against the one team that beat them. If they win, they have their opportunity to complete the 3 peat. 

    I have no idea what intrigues somebody to bother betting against the Chiefs in such a spot, along with the playoffs in general, but I imagine the majority of bets will be on the Bills in “hopes” of seeing somebody “finally beat the Chiefs”

     

    I’ll make money with the house once again. Bet on the “black hat” teams (past Patriots, past Warriors, current Celtics, current Chiefs) and let the average worry about how they “feel”

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    KC’s run defense is even more shored up than it was last postseason. 

    KC’s “underperformed” all the way to a true 15-1 record with a revenge game at home against the one team that beat them. If they win, they have their opportunity to complete the 3 peat. 

    I have no idea what intrigues somebody to bother betting against the Chiefs in such a spot, along with the playoffs in general, but I imagine the majority of bets will be on the Bills in “hopes” of seeing somebody “finally beat the Chiefs”

     

    I’ll make money with the house once again. Bet on the “black hat” teams (past Patriots, past Warriors, current Celtics, current Chiefs) and let the average worry about how they “feel”

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 10:45 AM ET #9

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     As stated not sure who wins honestly. 

    Taking chiefs with mahommes or NE with Brady is usually the better play but not always.

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     As stated not sure who wins honestly. 

    Taking chiefs with mahommes or NE with Brady is usually the better play but not always.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 10:55 AM ET #10

    Pacheco and butker was injured during their earlier matchup this season. I know this won't sit well with the bills die hards and chiefs haters but patrick mahomes was marching down field 1:30 left and converted 2 3rd down and LONG conversions were called back due to tacky illegal motion or false starts. Look for the hook, Chiefs all day bet the farm. 3 peat incoming 

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    Pacheco and butker was injured during their earlier matchup this season. I know this won't sit well with the bills die hards and chiefs haters but patrick mahomes was marching down field 1:30 left and converted 2 3rd down and LONG conversions were called back due to tacky illegal motion or false starts. Look for the hook, Chiefs all day bet the farm. 3 peat incoming 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 11:08 AM ET #11

    I don’t doubt the Chiefs, my opinion, Buffalo is the better team this year.

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    I don’t doubt the Chiefs, my opinion, Buffalo is the better team this year.

     
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    The two biggest impact players that missed the week 11 Bills game were starting CB Jaylon Watson and DE Omenihu.  Yes Butker is clutch in playoffs and he will be back but the kicker subs KC had filled in just fine in his absence (KC did not attempt a FG that game I believe).  Pacheco on the other hand is a non-factor right now and has been since his injury return.  Hunt is so much better in the run game and I expect Andy to continue to lean on him in the short yardage and goal to go situations.  Can Pacheco have a "good game" and make a positive impact this week?  Sure.  If he does then that will give KC more of a chance to be the winner when this game is over.  

    Watson coming back is the biggest difference here and it even showed last week when started and played 68 snaps, 2nd most from the DBs behind All Pro McDuffie.  McDuffie excels when he can line up in the slot (this week vs. Shakir) and let Watson play on the outside.  In the first matchup McDuffie primarily played man vs. Amari and zone when Cooper was off the field.  He will be lined up often vs. Allen's favorite target this week.  

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    The two biggest impact players that missed the week 11 Bills game were starting CB Jaylon Watson and DE Omenihu.  Yes Butker is clutch in playoffs and he will be back but the kicker subs KC had filled in just fine in his absence (KC did not attempt a FG that game I believe).  Pacheco on the other hand is a non-factor right now and has been since his injury return.  Hunt is so much better in the run game and I expect Andy to continue to lean on him in the short yardage and goal to go situations.  Can Pacheco have a "good game" and make a positive impact this week?  Sure.  If he does then that will give KC more of a chance to be the winner when this game is over.  

    Watson coming back is the biggest difference here and it even showed last week when started and played 68 snaps, 2nd most from the DBs behind All Pro McDuffie.  McDuffie excels when he can line up in the slot (this week vs. Shakir) and let Watson play on the outside.  In the first matchup McDuffie primarily played man vs. Amari and zone when Cooper was off the field.  He will be lined up often vs. Allen's favorite target this week.  

     
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    Gee I've been handicapping over 50 years and didn't realize how easy this was until I read all theses prediction  There is not one person on here that knows the outcome including refs,NFL or Taylor Swift lol   The Chiefs have a damn good team and coaching staff and Arrowhead is tough for visiting teams. If the Chiefs win it will be fixed if Buffalo wins it's because Chiefs and Mahomes are awful "Told Ya So" lol  I remember same crap on here when Brady and company kept winning and after the Chiefs dynasty there will be another hated so called privileged team that refs cater too   This gets old    GLA

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    Gee I've been handicapping over 50 years and didn't realize how easy this was until I read all theses prediction  There is not one person on here that knows the outcome including refs,NFL or Taylor Swift lol   The Chiefs have a damn good team and coaching staff and Arrowhead is tough for visiting teams. If the Chiefs win it will be fixed if Buffalo wins it's because Chiefs and Mahomes are awful "Told Ya So" lol  I remember same crap on here when Brady and company kept winning and after the Chiefs dynasty there will be another hated so called privileged team that refs cater too   This gets old    GLA

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 12:01 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by KillaPicks:

    Quote Originally Posted by JFelty: Quote Originally Posted by JoseAlonso787: KC will win Buffalo will win lol you must be a bookie promoting losing bets

    Killa, we on KC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaPicks:

    Quote Originally Posted by JFelty: Quote Originally Posted by JoseAlonso787: KC will win Buffalo will win lol you must be a bookie promoting losing bets

    Killa, we on KC?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 12:26 PM ET #15

    even if bills were home it wouldnt be a different story. I doubt allen sleeps well all week. when he did everything one could possibly ask and left mahomes with only 13 seconds he saw even that wasnt good enough. so the demons he has to conquer are damn near insurmountable and he knows beating mahomes in the regular season isn't the same as playoffs

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    even if bills were home it wouldnt be a different story. I doubt allen sleeps well all week. when he did everything one could possibly ask and left mahomes with only 13 seconds he saw even that wasnt good enough. so the demons he has to conquer are damn near insurmountable and he knows beating mahomes in the regular season isn't the same as playoffs

     
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     Bills have lost their last 7 road playoff games so I think it would be a little different if playing up in Buffalo peace_5

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     Bills have lost their last 7 road playoff games so I think it would be a little different if playing up in Buffalo peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @rosswin97  Bills have lost their last 7 road playoff games so I think it would be a little different if playing up in Buffalo

    exactly this

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    @rosswin97  Bills have lost their last 7 road playoff games so I think it would be a little different if playing up in Buffalo

    exactly this

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @rosswin97  Bills have lost their last 7 road playoff games so I think it would be a little different if playing up in Buffalo
    January 21, 2024

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    @rosswin97  Bills have lost their last 7 road playoff games so I think it would be a little different if playing up in Buffalo
    January 21, 2024

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2025 - 1:04 PM ET #19

    It will not be Eagles vs KC again. You heard it here first.  If it is then it’s an easy win for KC again and I don’t see that occurring.  Way too easy to predict that.  And that would mean 4 straight favorites won to end the season. Not happening, this is not college football. 

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    It will not be Eagles vs KC again. You heard it here first.  If it is then it’s an easy win for KC again and I don’t see that occurring.  Way too easy to predict that.  And that would mean 4 straight favorites won to end the season. Not happening, this is not college football. 

     
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    I’m leaning “the tush push bowl” which will end up making Goodell ban the play after this year. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash:

    It will not be Eagles vs KC again. You heard it here first.  If it is then it’s an easy win for KC again and I don’t see that occurring.  Way too easy to predict that.  And that would mean 4 straight favorites won to end the season. Not happening, this is not college football.
    Like it won't be the NYG and NE again? These stuff are always hard to say..... NEVER say NEVER! an_wink

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    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash:

    It will not be Eagles vs KC again. You heard it here first.  If it is then it’s an easy win for KC again and I don’t see that occurring.  Way too easy to predict that.  And that would mean 4 straight favorites won to end the season. Not happening, this is not college football.
    Like it won't be the NYG and NE again? These stuff are always hard to say..... NEVER say NEVER! an_wink

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz:

    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: It will not be Eagles vs KC again. You heard it here first.  If it is then it’s an easy win for KC again and I don’t see that occurring.  Way too easy to predict that.  And that would mean 4 straight favorites won to end the season. Not happening, this is not college football. Like it won't be the NYG and NE again? These stuff are always hard to say..... NEVER say NEVER!

     

    Or Niners and KC.  

     

    I have my reasons.  If I’m wrong I certainly know which way I am betting, which makes me know it is too easy this way. I’m betting it doesn’t happen but we’ll see 

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz:

    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: It will not be Eagles vs KC again. You heard it here first.  If it is then it’s an easy win for KC again and I don’t see that occurring.  Way too easy to predict that.  And that would mean 4 straight favorites won to end the season. Not happening, this is not college football. Like it won't be the NYG and NE again? These stuff are always hard to say..... NEVER say NEVER!

     

    Or Niners and KC.  

     

    I have my reasons.  If I’m wrong I certainly know which way I am betting, which makes me know it is too easy this way. I’m betting it doesn’t happen but we’ll see 

     
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    @Trinkster

     So people can't have opinions in a discussion forum?

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     So people can't have opinions in a discussion forum?

     
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    Watson had a 40.3 passer rating in coverage this year. 
    Only 4 corners had better. 33.1, 35.4, 39.4, and 39.8. 
    So, may as well say tied for 3rd best.  

    They for sure need him. 
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    Watson had a 40.3 passer rating in coverage this year. 
    Only 4 corners had better. 33.1, 35.4, 39.4, and 39.8. 
    So, may as well say tied for 3rd best.  

    They for sure need him. 
    peace_5

     
     
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    All the games, some of them against very bad teams, that were decided on the last play comes back to bite them in the ass. 

    Self-reliance is more important than artificial intelligence.
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