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    Why are people treating Michael Vick like Hitler ?????

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    samuelsosa
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 12:22 AM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by amd:

    Sorry...I didn't see his guarantee. With that said, I wasn't sure if you knew who he was.

    I dont deserve an apology
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    Quote Originally Posted by amd:

    Sorry...I didn't see his guarantee. With that said, I wasn't sure if you knew who he was.

    I dont deserve an apology
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 9:53 AM ET #102

    I feel life is all about "respect". You give respect, then you get respect.
     
    You disrespect, guess what, you get disrespected.
     
    Vick burned his bridge, and made his bed, now i feel he should lay in it.
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    I feel life is all about "respect". You give respect, then you get respect.
     
    You disrespect, guess what, you get disrespected.
     
    Vick burned his bridge, and made his bed, now i feel he should lay in it.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2009 - 10:39 AM ET #103

    Let him play!  He has served his sentence.  People make mistakes, we are all human.  I believe the NFL franchises are scared to take him on due to getting bad publicity.  Once he gets back in the NFL and has a great season, everybody will love him again.
    Gambling is only a problem when your losing!
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    Let him play!  He has served his sentence.  People make mistakes, we are all human.  I believe the NFL franchises are scared to take him on due to getting bad publicity.  Once he gets back in the NFL and has a great season, everybody will love him again.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 5:01 PM ET #104

    When has he had a great season yet?
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    When has he had a great season yet?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2009 - 5:07 PM ET #105

    Seeing as how youre from Minnesota I understand the Vick hate
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQY4kwhmtg
     
     
     
    Yeah I mean, beating the Packers/Favre in Lambeau field when It actually meant something shows how bad he is. Or how he throws more TD's than picks. People make it seem like the guy is Ryan Leaf
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    Seeing as how youre from Minnesota I understand the Vick hate
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQY4kwhmtg
     
     
     
    Yeah I mean, beating the Packers/Favre in Lambeau field when It actually meant something shows how bad he is. Or how he throws more TD's than picks. People make it seem like the guy is Ryan Leaf
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 12:42 AM ET #106

    Tony Dungy is reporting that Vick may be signed as early as next week.
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    Tony Dungy is reporting that Vick may be signed as early as next week.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 12:58 AM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    Seeing as how youre from Minnesota I understand the Vick hate
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQY4kwhmtg
     
     
     
    Yeah I mean, beating the Packers/Favre in Lambeau field when It actually meant something shows how bad he is. Or how he throws more TD's than picks. People make it seem like the guy is Ryan Leaf

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    Seeing as how youre from Minnesota I understand the Vick hate
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQY4kwhmtg
     
     
     
    Yeah I mean, beating the Packers/Favre in Lambeau field when It actually meant something shows how bad he is. Or how he throws more TD's than picks. People make it seem like the guy is Ryan Leaf

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 1:11 AM ET #108

    fightin
     
    Now dont get me wrong, Vick is not Ryan Leaf and he is not Peyton Manning either, not even close. BUT when you look around the NFL and see TAVARES JACKSON starting as a QB, there is definitely room for VICK. He is not great, but he is more than capable of winning a game, and a playoff game, which is much better than alot of qb's out there.
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    fightin
     
    Now dont get me wrong, Vick is not Ryan Leaf and he is not Peyton Manning either, not even close. BUT when you look around the NFL and see TAVARES JACKSON starting as a QB, there is definitely room for VICK. He is not great, but he is more than capable of winning a game, and a playoff game, which is much better than alot of qb's out there.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 1:23 AM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    fightin
     
    Now dont get me wrong, Vick is not Ryan Leaf and he is not Peyton Manning either, not even close. BUT when you look around the NFL and see TAVARES JACKSON starting as a QB, there is definitely room for VICK. He is not great, but he is more than capable of winning a game, and a playoff game, which is much better than alot of qb's out there.

     

    And lets not forget hes a QB with what a .600  win %. I mean been to the playoff twice in five years. And lets not forget just cause he doesnt have the passing numbers other great QBs have doesnt mean hes not great. I mean him running the ball for 3rd downs is so much higher then any other qbs ina way it makes up for the non throwing ones. And running the ball takes time off the clock, it makes the defense better. I mean there are many things he does different then conventional ones that can only help his team win that people dont take into account. They just look at the completion % Yards%, when they should be looking at wins, time of possesion, who were the offensive line men protecting him(Do you remenber, I dont) .  He took a tem that was one of the worst when he got there and made to the playoffs twice, and won 2 of those  games ( I think 2 ) . Since when is that not succesful? I mean do remember the last time the Falcons where a threat like that? The only other team I remember is the '98 team. And thats in the last 20 years. Anyway he wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    fightin
     
    Now dont get me wrong, Vick is not Ryan Leaf and he is not Peyton Manning either, not even close. BUT when you look around the NFL and see TAVARES JACKSON starting as a QB, there is definitely room for VICK. He is not great, but he is more than capable of winning a game, and a playoff game, which is much better than alot of qb's out there.

     

    And lets not forget hes a QB with what a .600  win %. I mean been to the playoff twice in five years. And lets not forget just cause he doesnt have the passing numbers other great QBs have doesnt mean hes not great. I mean him running the ball for 3rd downs is so much higher then any other qbs ina way it makes up for the non throwing ones. And running the ball takes time off the clock, it makes the defense better. I mean there are many things he does different then conventional ones that can only help his team win that people dont take into account. They just look at the completion % Yards%, when they should be looking at wins, time of possesion, who were the offensive line men protecting him(Do you remenber, I dont) .  He took a tem that was one of the worst when he got there and made to the playoffs twice, and won 2 of those  games ( I think 2 ) . Since when is that not succesful? I mean do remember the last time the Falcons where a threat like that? The only other team I remember is the '98 team. And thats in the last 20 years. Anyway he wins.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 1:25 AM ET #110

    As an aside to this story , how is Tony Dungy qualified to mentor people on life skills? He couldnt take care of his own family. His own son killed himself
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    As an aside to this story , how is Tony Dungy qualified to mentor people on life skills? He couldnt take care of his own family. His own son killed himself
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 1:31 AM ET #111

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    As an aside to this story , how is Tony Dungy qualified to mentor people on life skills? He couldnt take care of his own family. His own son killed himself

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    As an aside to this story , how is Tony Dungy qualified to mentor people on life skills? He couldnt take care of his own family. His own son killed himself

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 1:44 AM ET #112

    I'm just saying...
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    I'm just saying...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 2:28 AM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    Seeing as how youre from Minnesota I understand the Vick hate
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQY4kwhmtg
     
     
     
    Yeah I mean, beating the Packers/Favre in Lambeau field when It actually meant something shows how bad he is. Or how he throws more TD's than picks. People make it seem like the guy is Ryan Leaf

    Actually born in LasVegas, lived in Brooklyn until(25)and currently living in Minnesota.What does being from Minnesota have to do with Vick hate? I could give two craps about Favre or the Packers and I really don't get the point of that. I'm not saying he's Ryan Leaf, I'm saying he's average. 53% completion for career. And nearing 30 yrs old it's a risk, conviction or not, since he hasn't played in two plus years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    Seeing as how youre from Minnesota I understand the Vick hate
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQY4kwhmtg
     
     
     
    Yeah I mean, beating the Packers/Favre in Lambeau field when It actually meant something shows how bad he is. Or how he throws more TD's than picks. People make it seem like the guy is Ryan Leaf

    Actually born in LasVegas, lived in Brooklyn until(25)and currently living in Minnesota.What does being from Minnesota have to do with Vick hate? I could give two craps about Favre or the Packers and I really don't get the point of that. I'm not saying he's Ryan Leaf, I'm saying he's average. 53% completion for career. And nearing 30 yrs old it's a risk, conviction or not, since he hasn't played in two plus years.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 3:12 AM ET #114

    ANSWER to this question is easy.....

    Vick is .....
    TOO  black.....TOO cocky......TOO rich.........(was)

    America loves the jolly light skinned NON THREATENING  brother who just goes along with a big toothy grin all day.....

    as long as (he) can entertain us ........the DARK skinned ...threatening .... brother is fine too.....once he steps outta line WATCH  OUT !.......
    .
    WE'LL  SHOW  THAT  BLACK  SOB  A THING  OR  TWO !!!!!

    * wonder if John Daly (golfer)......got caught doing exactly the same thing.......would these same people all over Vick be all over Daly too ?
    NO WAY  IN  HELL .........wait a minute ...it's just  about the dogs right?

    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    ANSWER to this question is easy.....

    Vick is .....
    TOO  black.....TOO cocky......TOO rich.........(was)

    America loves the jolly light skinned NON THREATENING  brother who just goes along with a big toothy grin all day.....

    as long as (he) can entertain us ........the DARK skinned ...threatening .... brother is fine too.....once he steps outta line WATCH  OUT !.......
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    WE'LL  SHOW  THAT  BLACK  SOB  A THING  OR  TWO !!!!!

    * wonder if John Daly (golfer)......got caught doing exactly the same thing.......would these same people all over Vick be all over Daly too ?
    NO WAY  IN  HELL .........wait a minute ...it's just  about the dogs right?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 3:42 AM ET #115

    you got these motherfuckers shooting raping beating people and they get a slap on the wrist while this guy was doing something in the hood that isnt considered far from normal let him bakc hes paid his dues all them box players would never spend a night in jail he should get some respect
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    you got these motherfuckers shooting raping beating people and they get a slap on the wrist while this guy was doing something in the hood that isnt considered far from normal let him bakc hes paid his dues all them box players would never spend a night in jail he should get some respect
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 3:44 AM ET #116

    Quote Originally Posted by swamppdonkey77:

    Actually born in LasVegas, lived in Brooklyn until(25)and currently living in Minnesota.What does being from Minnesota have to do with Vick hate? I could give two craps about Favre or the Packers and I really don't get the point of that. I'm not saying he's Ryan Leaf, I'm saying he's average. 53% completion for career. And nearing 30 yrs old it's a risk, conviction or not, since he hasn't played in two plus years.

    If Vick is average Tavares Jackson is a bakers dozen knotches below average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swamppdonkey77:

    Actually born in LasVegas, lived in Brooklyn until(25)and currently living in Minnesota.What does being from Minnesota have to do with Vick hate? I could give two craps about Favre or the Packers and I really don't get the point of that. I'm not saying he's Ryan Leaf, I'm saying he's average. 53% completion for career. And nearing 30 yrs old it's a risk, conviction or not, since he hasn't played in two plus years.

    If Vick is average Tavares Jackson is a bakers dozen knotches below average.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 2:48 PM ET #117

    Quote Originally Posted by maritimemac:

    its 400 years ago stupid get over it


    .from earlier thread......

    in N America alone since 1600 or so.......between 15-20 million blacks have died in process of "collection"...."storage".......and transport......80 % died before they started their new "jobs"......yes not only N Americans have found black people to have many uses.....this is a world wide phenomenon......estimates start at around 50 million died since 1400 or so......(although some records suggest 100 million is possible).....60-70 million is accepted to be a pretty accurate figure.....as white man myself.....can see point > "never had a slave.......don't think my family has...."

    BUT......since we're dealing with the greatest MASS GENOCIDE in the history of man....> and the resulting "unacceptable behavior" by a few.......maybe us white boys should give a  brother the benefit of the doubt".....when we can....and if not ...just shut up....and not embarrass ourselves any further....don't  worry ....we have laws in place that will punish those that have done wrong....Vick already has received more "justice" than he deserved...
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maritimemac:

    its 400 years ago stupid get over it


    .from earlier thread......

    in N America alone since 1600 or so.......between 15-20 million blacks have died in process of "collection"...."storage".......and transport......80 % died before they started their new "jobs"......yes not only N Americans have found black people to have many uses.....this is a world wide phenomenon......estimates start at around 50 million died since 1400 or so......(although some records suggest 100 million is possible).....60-70 million is accepted to be a pretty accurate figure.....as white man myself.....can see point > "never had a slave.......don't think my family has...."

    BUT......since we're dealing with the greatest MASS GENOCIDE in the history of man....> and the resulting "unacceptable behavior" by a few.......maybe us white boys should give a  brother the benefit of the doubt".....when we can....and if not ...just shut up....and not embarrass ourselves any further....don't  worry ....we have laws in place that will punish those that have done wrong....Vick already has received more "justice" than he deserved...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 4:56 PM ET #118

    Hey we breed animals in terrible condtions and kill animals to eat, don't we. But it's about money and economy, jobs etc. so its okay.

    Lots of horses and dogs are either injured or killed during racing while they are held captive, but the goverment gets there cut because people are gambling on them, so thats okay.

    Now everyone including the goverment and the rest of us hypocrites need someone to point at and say look at Micheal Vick he is the bad guy.

    Well Micheal has given more to charity, given more of his free time to causes than most of will do in a lifetime.

    Mike should have recieved probation for 2 years, a fine and some restitution. How many guys are in jail for dog fighting right now, Zero, None.

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    Hey we breed animals in terrible condtions and kill animals to eat, don't we. But it's about money and economy, jobs etc. so its okay.

    Lots of horses and dogs are either injured or killed during racing while they are held captive, but the goverment gets there cut because people are gambling on them, so thats okay.

    Now everyone including the goverment and the rest of us hypocrites need someone to point at and say look at Micheal Vick he is the bad guy.

    Well Micheal has given more to charity, given more of his free time to causes than most of will do in a lifetime.

    Mike should have recieved probation for 2 years, a fine and some restitution. How many guys are in jail for dog fighting right now, Zero, None.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 9:11 PM ET #119

    People are pathetic,Micheal Vick is not Hitler,big deal? he's killed six dog..and even though I still think that Hitler do the right thing person people killed Jesus Hitler killed them that all
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    People are pathetic,Micheal Vick is not Hitler,big deal? he's killed six dog..and even though I still think that Hitler do the right thing person people killed Jesus Hitler killed them that all
     
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    Majority of you ass wipes are media dumbfounded when it comes to pitbulls.  You have no clue of who the original owners and breeders of the breed were.......and what they were bred for. You are absolutely ignorant if you think only inner city kids or (blacks) are the sole proprietors involved in pit fighting.  I suggest you  Google....Louis Colby pitbulls dogs....Floyd Bordeaux dogs....Joe Medlin Hemphill pitbulls....the list goes on, but I named a few major players. Don't be surprise at what you see and read. This shit has been going on since the 1900's.  And no I don't condone the fighting of this breed. I love my dogs to much to allow this type of behavior.  Any responsible pit owner will tell you that its the best breed on the planet by far, but it was originally bred to do one thing and one thing only.  This problem is way bigger than Mick Vick.
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    Majority of you ass wipes are media dumbfounded when it comes to pitbulls.  You have no clue of who the original owners and breeders of the breed were.......and what they were bred for. You are absolutely ignorant if you think only inner city kids or (blacks) are the sole proprietors involved in pit fighting.  I suggest you  Google....Louis Colby pitbulls dogs....Floyd Bordeaux dogs....Joe Medlin Hemphill pitbulls....the list goes on, but I named a few major players. Don't be surprise at what you see and read. This shit has been going on since the 1900's.  And no I don't condone the fighting of this breed. I love my dogs to much to allow this type of behavior.  Any responsible pit owner will tell you that its the best breed on the planet by far, but it was originally bred to do one thing and one thing only.  This problem is way bigger than Mick Vick.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 11:42 AM ET #122

    Interesting side note, everybody has been saying that Stallworth killed a person and got nothing, well today he was suspended for the season and possibly more according to sports illustrated.

    Secondly, Vick didn't do the time for dogfighting. Most of his sentence was for tax evasion for not reporting the income from breeding and fighting to the IRS.

    Third, Samuelsosa, I couldn't agree more. T-Jack is possibly the worst starting QB that I have seen since Leaf. I actually feel bad for the Vikings fans that surround me in the Twin Cities. That team is so close to being a SB contender even if they could just get a Dilfer type guy. Hopefully the purple fans will see Sage starting opening day.

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    Interesting side note, everybody has been saying that Stallworth killed a person and got nothing, well today he was suspended for the season and possibly more according to sports illustrated.

    Secondly, Vick didn't do the time for dogfighting. Most of his sentence was for tax evasion for not reporting the income from breeding and fighting to the IRS.

    Third, Samuelsosa, I couldn't agree more. T-Jack is possibly the worst starting QB that I have seen since Leaf. I actually feel bad for the Vikings fans that surround me in the Twin Cities. That team is so close to being a SB contender even if they could just get a Dilfer type guy. Hopefully the purple fans will see Sage starting opening day.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 12:33 PM ET #123

    EVERYONE WHO SAYS LET HIM PLAY, OKAY HE IS ALLOWED TOO ITS OBVIOUS NO ONE WANTS A GUY WHO CANT THROW IN A PASSING LEAGUE. NFL CAMPS HAVE BEEN GOING STRONG FOR 2 PLUS WEEKS, IF THIS GUY WAS ALL THAT NO MATTER WHAT HE DID SOMEONE WOULD BRING HIM IN THE BUILDING TO START LEARNING THE OFFENSE. WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO SIGN A GUY DURING THE SEASON WHEN HE HASNT PLAYED IN 2 SEASONS? GOOD COACHES PUT THIER PLAYERS IN THE BEST SITUATION TO SUCCEED WAITING TO SIGN A GUY  WEEKS AFTER THE SEASON ISNT IN HIS BEST INTEREST NOR THE TEAMS ESPECIALLY AT THE QB POSITION.
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    EVERYONE WHO SAYS LET HIM PLAY, OKAY HE IS ALLOWED TOO ITS OBVIOUS NO ONE WANTS A GUY WHO CANT THROW IN A PASSING LEAGUE. NFL CAMPS HAVE BEEN GOING STRONG FOR 2 PLUS WEEKS, IF THIS GUY WAS ALL THAT NO MATTER WHAT HE DID SOMEONE WOULD BRING HIM IN THE BUILDING TO START LEARNING THE OFFENSE. WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO SIGN A GUY DURING THE SEASON WHEN HE HASNT PLAYED IN 2 SEASONS? GOOD COACHES PUT THIER PLAYERS IN THE BEST SITUATION TO SUCCEED WAITING TO SIGN A GUY  WEEKS AFTER THE SEASON ISNT IN HIS BEST INTEREST NOR THE TEAMS ESPECIALLY AT THE QB POSITION.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 12:44 PM ET #124

    If Vick ever plays in the NFL again, I'm bringing my Pit Bull. It would be Fun to watch him rip Vick's balls off. 
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    If Vick ever plays in the NFL again, I'm bringing my Pit Bull. It would be Fun to watch him rip Vick's balls off. 
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2009 - 1:04 PM ET #125

    does anyone wish this thread would die already?

    who cares about one washed up ex-con qb anyway?
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    does anyone wish this thread would die already?

    who cares about one washed up ex-con qb anyway?
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