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    Vegas had its worst week of the year last week. That's good for the right dog this week.

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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2015 - 4:52 AM ET #26

    PS. 7 is a push line the same as 3.
    NE is beat up and weak, no incentive to win, probably going to rest players. Jets are on a roll looking to win 5 in a row and in a must win scenario.
    Carolina is the best in football right now and healthy,  Atlanta finally beat a real bad team after losing 6 straight.
    I'd need 10+ with Atlanta.
    +7 -125 just isn't good enough for me. I'll be rooting for you though. Think it's the right side, just a no play. Go Jets!
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    PS. 7 is a push line the same as 3.
    NE is beat up and weak, no incentive to win, probably going to rest players. Jets are on a roll looking to win 5 in a row and in a must win scenario.
    Carolina is the best in football right now and healthy,  Atlanta finally beat a real bad team after losing 6 straight.
    I'd need 10+ with Atlanta.
    +7 -125 just isn't good enough for me. I'll be rooting for you though. Think it's the right side, just a no play. Go Jets!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2015 - 4:56 AM ET #27

    pats playing for home field advantage right now?
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2015 - 7:30 AM ET #28

    the Eagles had muxh more than a microscopic chance of making playoffs last night at home and got smacked by a Redskins team that cant hold a candle to the Panthers...cant see this Falcons team as any real threat to this spread..of all dogs this week id have to take the Jets vs. my Pats with Amendola and other injuries....but the Chiefs must be considered in any betting scenario....i dont agree but good luck it crossed my mind briefly
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    the Eagles had muxh more than a microscopic chance of making playoffs last night at home and got smacked by a Redskins team that cant hold a candle to the Panthers...cant see this Falcons team as any real threat to this spread..of all dogs this week id have to take the Jets vs. my Pats with Amendola and other injuries....but the Chiefs must be considered in any betting scenario....i dont agree but good luck it crossed my mind briefly
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2015 - 9:11 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    You can call them assumptions.

    I call them a basis for a play.

    If you look at the raw stats for CAR vs. ATL you will only come out with a play on CAR (heavy) every time. You have to have a reason to look beyond that. I found some for myself.


    GL Scalabrine 

     I also concur with your comments
    What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion player with a beeper!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    You can call them assumptions.

    I call them a basis for a play.

    If you look at the raw stats for CAR vs. ATL you will only come out with a play on CAR (heavy) every time. You have to have a reason to look beyond that. I found some for myself.


    GL Scalabrine 

     I also concur with your comments
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2015 - 9:22 AM ET #31

    Man, Atlanta?? They sux bad and they always disappoint when needed. This could be like Duke yesterday, but this is NFL.
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    Man, Atlanta?? They sux bad and they always disappoint when needed. This could be like Duke yesterday, but this is NFL.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2015 - 9:52 AM ET #32

    Great insight, and a solid play. TOUGH to call out the Falcons though, their defense won't be able to stop the Panthers balanced attack; taking the 7 would suggest that the Dirty Birds will be able to SCORE 20+ and I'm not quite sure. Julio will see hi/low coverage, and or, will no doubt have Norman as his shadow. Panthers will not let Julio have a big day. Falcons will need someone else to step up to see this COVER through IMO.
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    Great insight, and a solid play. TOUGH to call out the Falcons though, their defense won't be able to stop the Panthers balanced attack; taking the 7 would suggest that the Dirty Birds will be able to SCORE 20+ and I'm not quite sure. Julio will see hi/low coverage, and or, will no doubt have Norman as his shadow. Panthers will not let Julio have a big day. Falcons will need someone else to step up to see this COVER through IMO.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2015 - 10:29 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by jrgumpert:

    PS. 7 is a push line the same as 3.
    NE is beat up and weak, no incentive to win, probably going to rest players. Jets are on a roll looking to win 5 in a row and in a must win scenario.
    Carolina is the best in football right now and healthy,  Atlanta finally beat a real bad team after losing 6 straight.
    I'd need 10+ with Atlanta.
    +7 -125 just isn't good enough for me. I'll be rooting for you though. Think it's the right side, just a no play. Go Jets!

    Jr, 7 is not a push line.

    I call three a push line because the number most games land on to decide the game is 3 (and it is obvious why as the team goes for a game winning FG). Teams do not go for game winning TD's.

    My 7 covers the 3/4 and 6 and pushes at 7. I have 3 key numbers in my pocket. At +3, you have none. You can only push. Now the game can land on 1 o 2 but that is far more unlikely than if it landed on 3, a number I have.


    The point is, you have to have the Jets win outright to win your bet or you will push or lose if they don't. I can still win with an inflated number. And the Jets have lost 9 of 10 to the Pats in the regular season with one bogus win on a penalty.

    Can the Jets win? Of course. NE is loaded with disableds. But you still have to beat Bill and Tom as always.  I thought taking them at +9/+7.5 in NE was a far better spot than +3 at home. Lots of room for error with those numbers. And with the Jets, you need room for error. And with Atl, I get the 7 I want in a game where ATL should leave blood on the field in a loss at worst.

    I've seen many a terrible team step up when motivated. Tulsa yesterday is an example. Tulsa's defense is one of the worst you will find in the FBS. Down 24-14 with 7 minutes!!! in the first quarter!!!! they fought and fought and fought and got inside the +14 to lose 52-55 vs. VT. Even had the ball to win it with a minute left...all in Beamer's last game. 

    CaR was the worst team in the NFL for 15 minutes last week. Did a mental dam break? We will see. But I get 7 to find out in Atlanta. That's big.


    Mac and the rest above

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrgumpert:

    PS. 7 is a push line the same as 3.
    NE is beat up and weak, no incentive to win, probably going to rest players. Jets are on a roll looking to win 5 in a row and in a must win scenario.
    Carolina is the best in football right now and healthy,  Atlanta finally beat a real bad team after losing 6 straight.
    I'd need 10+ with Atlanta.
    +7 -125 just isn't good enough for me. I'll be rooting for you though. Think it's the right side, just a no play. Go Jets!

    Jr, 7 is not a push line.

    I call three a push line because the number most games land on to decide the game is 3 (and it is obvious why as the team goes for a game winning FG). Teams do not go for game winning TD's.

    My 7 covers the 3/4 and 6 and pushes at 7. I have 3 key numbers in my pocket. At +3, you have none. You can only push. Now the game can land on 1 o 2 but that is far more unlikely than if it landed on 3, a number I have.


    The point is, you have to have the Jets win outright to win your bet or you will push or lose if they don't. I can still win with an inflated number. And the Jets have lost 9 of 10 to the Pats in the regular season with one bogus win on a penalty.

    Can the Jets win? Of course. NE is loaded with disableds. But you still have to beat Bill and Tom as always.  I thought taking them at +9/+7.5 in NE was a far better spot than +3 at home. Lots of room for error with those numbers. And with the Jets, you need room for error. And with Atl, I get the 7 I want in a game where ATL should leave blood on the field in a loss at worst.

    I've seen many a terrible team step up when motivated. Tulsa yesterday is an example. Tulsa's defense is one of the worst you will find in the FBS. Down 24-14 with 7 minutes!!! in the first quarter!!!! they fought and fought and fought and got inside the +14 to lose 52-55 vs. VT. Even had the ball to win it with a minute left...all in Beamer's last game. 

    CaR was the worst team in the NFL for 15 minutes last week. Did a mental dam break? We will see. But I get 7 to find out in Atlanta. That's big.


    Mac and the rest above

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2015 - 10:41 AM ET #34

    PUBLIC DARLINGS: Panthers, Chiefs, Patriots, Texans, & Steelers all receiving 70% of the bet splits today (via @SportsInsights )

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    PUBLIC DARLINGS: Panthers, Chiefs, Patriots, Texans, & Steelers all receiving 70% of the bet splits today (via @SportsInsights )

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadBud:

    PUBLIC DARLINGS: Panthers, Chiefs, Patriots, Texans, & Steelers all receiving 70% of the bet splits today (via @SportsInsights )

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    All but the Texans did not cover with the Pats game still in the balance.

    A big dog week folks as Vegas predictably collects against the public big-time as expected.

    Bottom line: When picking teams you are not completely familiar with, line reading and consensus reading works as a capping tool when done properly (of course there will always be detractors and say this Falcons win was independent of any of that. It was. But the line value in a week after Vegas got killed could be had if you took ATL). 
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    PUBLIC DARLINGS: Panthers, Chiefs, Patriots, Texans, & Steelers all receiving 70% of the bet splits today (via @SportsInsights )

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    All but the Texans did not cover with the Pats game still in the balance.

    A big dog week folks as Vegas predictably collects against the public big-time as expected.

    Bottom line: When picking teams you are not completely familiar with, line reading and consensus reading works as a capping tool when done properly (of course there will always be detractors and say this Falcons win was independent of any of that. It was. But the line value in a week after Vegas got killed could be had if you took ATL). 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2015 - 4:09 PM ET #36

    Pats go down too folks... Public darlings get destroyed.
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    Now that's what I call an amazing play


    You're the best poster I've ever seen
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    You're the best poster I've ever seen
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazingPlayz:

    Now that's what I call an amazing play


    You're the best poster I've ever seen

    Appreciate it man
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmazingPlayz:

    Now that's what I call an amazing play


    You're the best poster I've ever seen

    Appreciate it man
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2015 - 6:48 PM ET #39

    Scalabrine, great pick my friend. I loved it even more after reading your analysis. You got any feel at all on SNF? I had a,decent day, but played some ridiculous exotics, parlays and teasers, that hurt. I was up large from a 9-2 bowl game saturday and tried some larger parlays that did not hit. No big deal, i normally just play straight bets. I leaned my entire day on falcons, jets,and lions as i posted.
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    Scalabrine, great pick my friend. I loved it even more after reading your analysis. You got any feel at all on SNF? I had a,decent day, but played some ridiculous exotics, parlays and teasers, that hurt. I was up large from a 9-2 bowl game saturday and tried some larger parlays that did not hit. No big deal, i normally just play straight bets. I leaned my entire day on falcons, jets,and lions as i posted.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by worthbob:

    Scalabrine, great pick my friend. I loved it even more after reading your analysis. You got any feel at all on SNF? I had a,decent day, but played some ridiculous exotics, parlays and teasers, that hurt. I was up large from a 9-2 bowl game saturday and tried some larger parlays that did not hit. No big deal, i normally just play straight bets. I leaned my entire day on falcons, jets,and lions as i posted.

    I have another thread about kicking my PC screen in where I wrote up the Giants Minny. All with their best player out. I can't stress how important ODB is to Manning. Manning may get 5-6 more incompletions a game (and 1-2 fewer TD's) if not for ODB. The guy's talent cannot be overrated.

    It is 7 degrees right now in Minnesota. It is going to 3 tonight WITHOUT the wind chill. Great game for the Giants to lay down and die in Arctic weather now that their season is over.

    I have the ML but the Giants also have to understand they have a lineman in JPP who has one tackling hand, and now the best RB in the league can blast right past him as Cam did last week twice on the way to two TD's. Watch JPP tonight. The guy can't tackle. He can only push and collapse pockets. That's bad when you are facing a team that relies on its run game so much.

    I will note this is a very dangerous week to lay points. That is why I took two ML's in the Bills and Vikes. Vegas is out for square blood this week and aside from this Arizona game, even teased favorites have gone up to the heavens in smoke (pats, Pitt, Seattle most likely, KC Carolina etc.). So Vegas has smashed parlays and teasers and ML sides to smitherines. Big week for them. That makes laying points very dangerous as we head into SNF and MNF and squares try to recoup big losses on the last two games of the week.

    Although the Giants rarely lay down they can find a way to backdoor this number. But if I absolutely to take a side, I'd lay the -6.5. As far as a ML, I'd be stunned if the Vikes lost outright, especially given the packers opening the door for them today. I already have the ML down as a win.
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    Scalabrine, great pick my friend. I loved it even more after reading your analysis. You got any feel at all on SNF? I had a,decent day, but played some ridiculous exotics, parlays and teasers, that hurt. I was up large from a 9-2 bowl game saturday and tried some larger parlays that did not hit. No big deal, i normally just play straight bets. I leaned my entire day on falcons, jets,and lions as i posted.

    I have another thread about kicking my PC screen in where I wrote up the Giants Minny. All with their best player out. I can't stress how important ODB is to Manning. Manning may get 5-6 more incompletions a game (and 1-2 fewer TD's) if not for ODB. The guy's talent cannot be overrated.

    It is 7 degrees right now in Minnesota. It is going to 3 tonight WITHOUT the wind chill. Great game for the Giants to lay down and die in Arctic weather now that their season is over.

    I have the ML but the Giants also have to understand they have a lineman in JPP who has one tackling hand, and now the best RB in the league can blast right past him as Cam did last week twice on the way to two TD's. Watch JPP tonight. The guy can't tackle. He can only push and collapse pockets. That's bad when you are facing a team that relies on its run game so much.

    I will note this is a very dangerous week to lay points. That is why I took two ML's in the Bills and Vikes. Vegas is out for square blood this week and aside from this Arizona game, even teased favorites have gone up to the heavens in smoke (pats, Pitt, Seattle most likely, KC Carolina etc.). So Vegas has smashed parlays and teasers and ML sides to smitherines. Big week for them. That makes laying points very dangerous as we head into SNF and MNF and squares try to recoup big losses on the last two games of the week.

    Although the Giants rarely lay down they can find a way to backdoor this number. But if I absolutely to take a side, I'd lay the -6.5. As far as a ML, I'd be stunned if the Vikes lost outright, especially given the packers opening the door for them today. I already have the ML down as a win.
     
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    Scal, great call
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    Scal, great call
    appreciate it
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    Scal, great call
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2015 - 2:45 AM ET #44

    Scal. You're probably blue in the face and have carpel tunnel from all that write-up man. You did it though...you came up with a couple of gems. Congrats! I always tail your plays. Respect! ??
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    Scal. You're probably blue in the face and have carpel tunnel from all that write-up man. You did it though...you came up with a couple of gems. Congrats! I always tail your plays. Respect! ??
     
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    Great call scal
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    I respectfully tell you not to listen to them. You can pay attention to consensus information and how money moves as a shorthand to make bets. Don't believe me? Tell Bob Scucci who Director of Boyd Gaming and says these things happen every week on the Behind the Bets podcast. If I'm a liar or clueless, then so is he and good luck telling an actual line-setter in Vegas who handles the cash flow he is clueless.


    Because Bob Scucci has no reason to lie to casual bettors to make sure they keep coming back to bet games? 'Vegas' doesn't care what side you're on. If too much money is one side, they're not STUCK ON ONE GAME, genius. Their books are balanced over many games, many weeks.

    I think I'll stick to following the guys who DON'T believe this garbage, because their records are better than yours. Respectfully, I suggest people ignore what you have to say about hocus pocus Vegas moves and instead listen only to what you have to say about games.. which is usually spot on. Where you start confusing yourself is when you believe the bullcrap that goes on about lines and consensus charts.
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    I respectfully tell you not to listen to them. You can pay attention to consensus information and how money moves as a shorthand to make bets. Don't believe me? Tell Bob Scucci who Director of Boyd Gaming and says these things happen every week on the Behind the Bets podcast. If I'm a liar or clueless, then so is he and good luck telling an actual line-setter in Vegas who handles the cash flow he is clueless.


    Because Bob Scucci has no reason to lie to casual bettors to make sure they keep coming back to bet games? 'Vegas' doesn't care what side you're on. If too much money is one side, they're not STUCK ON ONE GAME, genius. Their books are balanced over many games, many weeks.

    I think I'll stick to following the guys who DON'T believe this garbage, because their records are better than yours. Respectfully, I suggest people ignore what you have to say about hocus pocus Vegas moves and instead listen only to what you have to say about games.. which is usually spot on. Where you start confusing yourself is when you believe the bullcrap that goes on about lines and consensus charts.
     
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    I don't mean to be a troll about it, and shouldn't have worded my last reply like I did. You're one of the good guys on here, scal, and have a lot to contribute to genuine football discussion each week.

    But I've been following a guy for 5+ years now, who posts here now too, who hasn't had an NFL season under 65% as long as I've known him. He says it's all bullcrap, and I've made more money following him than anyone else.

    My point is, if he says it's crap and adds nothing to your chance of winning, then if he has the best records surely that proves the point? If consensus numbers are real, if Vegas really needs one side or another and has to trick and trap people, then surely someone who is deaf dumb and blind should be a loser, long term?

    Also, this site isn't full of guys who disbelieve in consensus. It's full of guys who DO believe it. There's only like 3 or 4 cappers here who dont believe in the myths. So you're not in the minority. I don't know if you think that's good or bad, ha.

    I wish you all the best though. I enjoy reading what you have to say about the games themselves, but I ignore all the consensus stuff. Your ACTUAL football capping, the real stuff, has given me plenty on winners in the past.
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    I don't mean to be a troll about it, and shouldn't have worded my last reply like I did. You're one of the good guys on here, scal, and have a lot to contribute to genuine football discussion each week.

    But I've been following a guy for 5+ years now, who posts here now too, who hasn't had an NFL season under 65% as long as I've known him. He says it's all bullcrap, and I've made more money following him than anyone else.

    My point is, if he says it's crap and adds nothing to your chance of winning, then if he has the best records surely that proves the point? If consensus numbers are real, if Vegas really needs one side or another and has to trick and trap people, then surely someone who is deaf dumb and blind should be a loser, long term?

    Also, this site isn't full of guys who disbelieve in consensus. It's full of guys who DO believe it. There's only like 3 or 4 cappers here who dont believe in the myths. So you're not in the minority. I don't know if you think that's good or bad, ha.

    I wish you all the best though. I enjoy reading what you have to say about the games themselves, but I ignore all the consensus stuff. Your ACTUAL football capping, the real stuff, has given me plenty on winners in the past.
     
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    Good work.
    I read your essay and agreed with everything.
    Loved your title.
    You were correct in that Vegas were aiming to get their money back - they did, in big style, and will probably continue for a while as the squares double up on coming games.

    Needless to say it was an outright winner.

    By the way, how's your Knicks season total win ticket looking this time?
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    Good work.
    I read your essay and agreed with everything.
    Loved your title.
    You were correct in that Vegas were aiming to get their money back - they did, in big style, and will probably continue for a while as the squares double up on coming games.

    Needless to say it was an outright winner.

    By the way, how's your Knicks season total win ticket looking this time?
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    All but the Texans did not cover with the Pats game still in the balance.

    A big dog week folks as Vegas predictably collects against the public big-time as expected.

    Bottom line: When picking teams you are not completely familiar with, line reading and consensus reading works as a capping tool when done properly (of course there will always be detractors and say this Falcons win was independent of any of that. It was. But the line value in a week after Vegas got killed could be had if you took ATL). 


    I love that you are having a great season as you really deserved it after 2014.

    But I still don't get the public logic, maybe we are just talking past each other. I completely agree that you can get a read on future line movement by looking at what the public thinks. You can also get a clue by reading ESPN headlines though or by just looking at recent results lol.

    Last week the majority of the teams from the so called "public side" won, this time the other side. Where is the big deal? This league is about matchups and spots. Sometimes the "public side" presents the better matchup, sometimes the other site. Over the course of the season there should be a 50/50 split if we back-track consensus numbers.

    The Texans are a far superior team than the Titans with Mettenburger. I didn't have it on my radar because the Texans struggled against a bad Colts team and I bite myself for that.

    The Chiefs were without Justin Houston and Tamba Hali against an elite OL. That's why I stayed away from the -10. Johnny Manziel had time in the pocket and some room to run. I just couldn't bet Manziel on the road vs. a playoff contender. I can't believe the Chiefs were a public darling.

    The Jets are one of those teams that match up BRILLIANTLY with the Patriots which we have seen in both games this year. The Jets completely dominated this game from start to finish. The Pats were banged up with injuries and Tom Brady was 1/10 on third down. They should have never gotten to overtime, the Jets deserved this win as they outplayed them in every facet. To take the Patriots wasn't stupid because it was a public side, but because it was a terrible matchup for them.

    I played the Steelers and I still don't know whether I can blame myself. Who can expect such a performance by Ryan Mallet after one week with the Ravens against a defense that has been playing very good this season? It was the Ravens' personal Super Bowl and I underestimated that. The Steelers probably would have won by 20 against a 4-win NFC team.

    The Panthers have shown vulnerability lately against teams who can air it out and you called this spot on the money. The Falcons were on huge revenge and gave 100% while the Panthers seemed to be satisfied. For me this game was a tossup at 7. The line seemed about right for me. Panthers were -8.5 at home and have won 38-0 and the next week the Falcons "just" beat the Jaguars by 6.

    I completely agree that you can get a clue about line movement by looking at what the public thinks and sometimes there are opportunities to get more value. But we are getting this value because oddsmakers move lines to get 50/50 action. Local bookies and maybe some casinos at Vegas might take a hit or win more than the juice sometimes. But big offshores like 5Dimes, bet365 or Pinnacle don't move their lines 50 times on Sundays because they want uneven action With so much money coming in from all over the world they would be damn stupid to not try to take balanced action to win huge on every game.

    Pregame showed 133k bets from offshores on the SNF game yesterday. Imagine these bets would have been just $50 on average (I think it's more). This equals $6.65M bet on that game. Split the action with an average line of -110 and they collect $332,500 by just running an algorithm.

    Keep on rolling, scal!
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    All but the Texans did not cover with the Pats game still in the balance.

    A big dog week folks as Vegas predictably collects against the public big-time as expected.

    Bottom line: When picking teams you are not completely familiar with, line reading and consensus reading works as a capping tool when done properly (of course there will always be detractors and say this Falcons win was independent of any of that. It was. But the line value in a week after Vegas got killed could be had if you took ATL). 


    I love that you are having a great season as you really deserved it after 2014.

    But I still don't get the public logic, maybe we are just talking past each other. I completely agree that you can get a read on future line movement by looking at what the public thinks. You can also get a clue by reading ESPN headlines though or by just looking at recent results lol.

    Last week the majority of the teams from the so called "public side" won, this time the other side. Where is the big deal? This league is about matchups and spots. Sometimes the "public side" presents the better matchup, sometimes the other site. Over the course of the season there should be a 50/50 split if we back-track consensus numbers.

    The Texans are a far superior team than the Titans with Mettenburger. I didn't have it on my radar because the Texans struggled against a bad Colts team and I bite myself for that.

    The Chiefs were without Justin Houston and Tamba Hali against an elite OL. That's why I stayed away from the -10. Johnny Manziel had time in the pocket and some room to run. I just couldn't bet Manziel on the road vs. a playoff contender. I can't believe the Chiefs were a public darling.

    The Jets are one of those teams that match up BRILLIANTLY with the Patriots which we have seen in both games this year. The Jets completely dominated this game from start to finish. The Pats were banged up with injuries and Tom Brady was 1/10 on third down. They should have never gotten to overtime, the Jets deserved this win as they outplayed them in every facet. To take the Patriots wasn't stupid because it was a public side, but because it was a terrible matchup for them.

    I played the Steelers and I still don't know whether I can blame myself. Who can expect such a performance by Ryan Mallet after one week with the Ravens against a defense that has been playing very good this season? It was the Ravens' personal Super Bowl and I underestimated that. The Steelers probably would have won by 20 against a 4-win NFC team.

    The Panthers have shown vulnerability lately against teams who can air it out and you called this spot on the money. The Falcons were on huge revenge and gave 100% while the Panthers seemed to be satisfied. For me this game was a tossup at 7. The line seemed about right for me. Panthers were -8.5 at home and have won 38-0 and the next week the Falcons "just" beat the Jaguars by 6.

    I completely agree that you can get a clue about line movement by looking at what the public thinks and sometimes there are opportunities to get more value. But we are getting this value because oddsmakers move lines to get 50/50 action. Local bookies and maybe some casinos at Vegas might take a hit or win more than the juice sometimes. But big offshores like 5Dimes, bet365 or Pinnacle don't move their lines 50 times on Sundays because they want uneven action With so much money coming in from all over the world they would be damn stupid to not try to take balanced action to win huge on every game.

    Pregame showed 133k bets from offshores on the SNF game yesterday. Imagine these bets would have been just $50 on average (I think it's more). This equals $6.65M bet on that game. Split the action with an average line of -110 and they collect $332,500 by just running an algorithm.

    Keep on rolling, scal!
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