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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 10:05 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Quote Originally Posted by MrBator: Vanzack, you are one of the few backing the Super Bowl champs today. I've heard that the Chargers play a lot of close games. I've heard this everywhere, from everyone. You know what that means....  For those backing the Chargers....  How are they going to stop the Chiefs?  Yes, I have also heard all week the Chargers keep things close.  But I would like a chargers backer to explain one simple thing to me...  What single advantage does their defense have in stopping KC?  I just think KC does whatever they want on offense. GL today KC simply doesn't cover. They are 0-8 ats last 8 after DD victory Yeah, and the Chargers are 0-10 after that crazed lady is in the stands. These trends are just looking for patterns in randomness. Unless you can tell me why that would be significant?  As in causation.  Not correlation.   KC doesn't have the killer instinct they had with Mahomes the first couple of years. They know it is all about postseason. Unlike the Pats who in 2007 wanted to win every game by 500, then went 18-0 wearing themself out only to lose the SB. Postseason matters not covering every game because you play 100% all out every game. They also don't have those same crazy weapons they did earlier in Mahomes career. They had speed everywhere with a big target in Kelce and almost scored at will covering covering. Similarly with why Dolphins are tending to cover at home.

    I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on the significance of what you posted here.

    I like to look at stats and matchups.  Im not quite sure that human beings have in their minds that they will play less than 100% because they are saving it for the playoffs.

    And the weapons for Mahomes is all baked in.

    But all good.  Respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Quote Originally Posted by MrBator: Vanzack, you are one of the few backing the Super Bowl champs today. I've heard that the Chargers play a lot of close games. I've heard this everywhere, from everyone. You know what that means....  For those backing the Chargers....  How are they going to stop the Chiefs?  Yes, I have also heard all week the Chargers keep things close.  But I would like a chargers backer to explain one simple thing to me...  What single advantage does their defense have in stopping KC?  I just think KC does whatever they want on offense. GL today KC simply doesn't cover. They are 0-8 ats last 8 after DD victory Yeah, and the Chargers are 0-10 after that crazed lady is in the stands. These trends are just looking for patterns in randomness. Unless you can tell me why that would be significant?  As in causation.  Not correlation.   KC doesn't have the killer instinct they had with Mahomes the first couple of years. They know it is all about postseason. Unlike the Pats who in 2007 wanted to win every game by 500, then went 18-0 wearing themself out only to lose the SB. Postseason matters not covering every game because you play 100% all out every game. They also don't have those same crazy weapons they did earlier in Mahomes career. They had speed everywhere with a big target in Kelce and almost scored at will covering covering. Similarly with why Dolphins are tending to cover at home.

    I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on the significance of what you posted here.

    I like to look at stats and matchups.  Im not quite sure that human beings have in their minds that they will play less than 100% because they are saving it for the playoffs.

    And the weapons for Mahomes is all baked in.

    But all good.  Respect.

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 10:07 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Lions/Baltimore thoughts?  Vans total of the week?

    Yeah - I like the Ravens here.  But I won't personally bet against the Lions yet.  But it would be Ravens or nothing for me.

    Total of the week is 0-1 although it probably shouldve won last week.  This week would be Colts / Browns under 40.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Lions/Baltimore thoughts?  Vans total of the week?

    Yeah - I like the Ravens here.  But I won't personally bet against the Lions yet.  But it would be Ravens or nothing for me.

    Total of the week is 0-1 although it probably shouldve won last week.  This week would be Colts / Browns under 40.5

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 10:10 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win: @vanzack  Interested in your take on the Eagles game. Looks like it’s your favorite play of the weekend. Quickly... Huge advantage for the Eagles rushing attack.  And that is what the eagles want to do - and do best.  Not thrilled betting against an offense like the Dolphins, but when a team can control the game the way the Eagles can tonight with Strength on weakness rushing - it usually works out to good things.

    Nice thread title this week an_wink cool 

    SNF should be a great matchup, Miami is going to have major issues stopping/slowing down Philly run game which should open up the PA for AJ and Devonte downfield...Lane Johnson back tonight big boost....Jalen Carter supposed to play as well on the other side of the ball.  Iggles are missing starting Safety and Slot corner so I'd expect McDaniels to be scheming to get Tyreek and company in position to take advantage of that.  

    Philly has only had 2 previous home games this year....put up over 30 points in both vs lesser defenses than this Phins one.  They do it again here with a Dub and likely the Over here too 34-30 type of game....GL all peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win: @vanzack  Interested in your take on the Eagles game. Looks like it’s your favorite play of the weekend. Quickly... Huge advantage for the Eagles rushing attack.  And that is what the eagles want to do - and do best.  Not thrilled betting against an offense like the Dolphins, but when a team can control the game the way the Eagles can tonight with Strength on weakness rushing - it usually works out to good things.

    Nice thread title this week an_wink cool 

    SNF should be a great matchup, Miami is going to have major issues stopping/slowing down Philly run game which should open up the PA for AJ and Devonte downfield...Lane Johnson back tonight big boost....Jalen Carter supposed to play as well on the other side of the ball.  Iggles are missing starting Safety and Slot corner so I'd expect McDaniels to be scheming to get Tyreek and company in position to take advantage of that.  

    Philly has only had 2 previous home games this year....put up over 30 points in both vs lesser defenses than this Phins one.  They do it again here with a Dub and likely the Over here too 34-30 type of game....GL all peace_5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 10:12 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win: @vanzack  Interested in your take on the Eagles game. Looks like it’s your favorite play of the weekend. Quickly... Huge advantage for the Eagles rushing attack.  And that is what the eagles want to do - and do best.  Not thrilled betting against an offense like the Dolphins, but when a team can control the game the way the Eagles can tonight with Strength on weakness rushing - it usually works out to good things. Nice thread title this week    SNF should be a great matchup, Miami is going to have major issues stopping/slowing down Philly run game which should open up the PA for AJ and Devonte downfield...Lane Johnson back tonight big boost....Jalen Carter supposed to play as well on the other side of the ball.  Iggles are missing starting Safety and Slot corner so I'd expect McDaniels to be scheming to get Tyreek and company in position to take advantage of that.   Philly has only had 2 previous home games this year....put up over 30 points in both vs lesser defenses than this Phins one.  They do it again here with a Dub and likely the Over here too 34-30 type of game....GL all

    Agree with Eagles analysis.

    The Sunday Funday title seemed to be used by about 10 people today so I thought I would join in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win: @vanzack  Interested in your take on the Eagles game. Looks like it’s your favorite play of the weekend. Quickly... Huge advantage for the Eagles rushing attack.  And that is what the eagles want to do - and do best.  Not thrilled betting against an offense like the Dolphins, but when a team can control the game the way the Eagles can tonight with Strength on weakness rushing - it usually works out to good things. Nice thread title this week    SNF should be a great matchup, Miami is going to have major issues stopping/slowing down Philly run game which should open up the PA for AJ and Devonte downfield...Lane Johnson back tonight big boost....Jalen Carter supposed to play as well on the other side of the ball.  Iggles are missing starting Safety and Slot corner so I'd expect McDaniels to be scheming to get Tyreek and company in position to take advantage of that.   Philly has only had 2 previous home games this year....put up over 30 points in both vs lesser defenses than this Phins one.  They do it again here with a Dub and likely the Over here too 34-30 type of game....GL all

    Agree with Eagles analysis.

    The Sunday Funday title seemed to be used by about 10 people today so I thought I would join in...

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 10:15 AM ET #30

    Chiefs also 1-8 ats as a favorite or dog of 7 or  less at home.

    A coincidence I guess.

    Of course they can still cover. It is no lock or anything.

    GL

     

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    Chiefs also 1-8 ats as a favorite or dog of 7 or  less at home.

    A coincidence I guess.

    Of course they can still cover. It is no lock or anything.

    GL

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 10:16 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty:

    Chiefs also 1-8 ats as a favorite or dog of 7 or  less at home

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    Chiefs also 1-8 ats as a favorite or dog of 7 or  less at home

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    I super love your pick van....really do this week except buffo -7.5 and chief -5.5 

     Dont have to much info to convence you except line make no sense....bufflo give 8@home but 7.5 away....seem like new england might win str8

    The other intel is kc-5.5... usually kc give 5.5 away but to give 5.5 home is fishy...it should have been 7.5 to 9.5

     Just my 5 cent thought....

       Any thought on greenbay vs denver..kinda leaning denver

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    I super love your pick van....really do this week except buffo -7.5 and chief -5.5 

     Dont have to much info to convence you except line make no sense....bufflo give 8@home but 7.5 away....seem like new england might win str8

    The other intel is kc-5.5... usually kc give 5.5 away but to give 5.5 home is fishy...it should have been 7.5 to 9.5

     Just my 5 cent thought....

       Any thought on greenbay vs denver..kinda leaning denver

     
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    I mean kind of leaning on greenbay..sorry for the error

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    I mean kind of leaning on greenbay..sorry for the error

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethiopia:

    I super love your pick van....really do this week except buffo -7.5 and chief -5.5   Dont have to much info to convence you except line make no sense....bufflo give 8@home but 7.5 away....seem like new england might win str8 The other intel is kc-5.5... usually kc give 5.5 away but to give 5.5 home is fishy...it should have been 7.5 to 9.5  Just my 5 cent thought....    Any thought on greenbay vs denver..kinda leaning denver

    This game screams stay away. You could make a case for either side - I like to make a case for neither side.

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethiopia:

    I super love your pick van....really do this week except buffo -7.5 and chief -5.5   Dont have to much info to convence you except line make no sense....bufflo give 8@home but 7.5 away....seem like new england might win str8 The other intel is kc-5.5... usually kc give 5.5 away but to give 5.5 home is fishy...it should have been 7.5 to 9.5  Just my 5 cent thought....    Any thought on greenbay vs denver..kinda leaning denver

    This game screams stay away. You could make a case for either side - I like to make a case for neither side.

    GL

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 10:24 AM ET #35

    @vanzack

     I just wanna say the line say a lot...away they give 5.5 and at home 5.5 seem to me a trap...but gokd luck whatever side ya on...love ya cappers...pause

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     I just wanna say the line say a lot...away they give 5.5 and at home 5.5 seem to me a trap...but gokd luck whatever side ya on...love ya cappers...pause

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 10:42 AM ET #36

    Bears and Colts, Numbers play or where do you see an advantage?

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    BOL Van, keep up the great work an_cheers

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    Old age seems to be catching up to you! an_eek2 JK-GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    NFL Season Record:  +14.0 units Eagles -2.75 (3.5 units)Bucs -2.75 (2.5 units)Bills -7.5 (2.5 units)Chiefs -5 (2 units)Bears +2.5 (2 units)Colts +3.5 (2 units)Commanders -3 (2 units) GL all

    Love the Eagles this week, both teams can score, but I believe Eagles have the better D, and their O can control the clock much better than the fins.

    Bucs at this short number looks money to me, Dirty birds only play dirty at home.

    I just do not see how the pats stay close to this game, it isnt snowing yet right?

    Chiefs have the better QB for sure, but these divisional games with these weird odds have crazy outcome, I honestly think the bolts have a good chance to win this game, Mahomes is God like but his WR's are sadly nowhere near his level of play yet.

    I am very surprise to see you play the Bears, would love to hear what you see in this game.

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    NFL Season Record:  +14.0 units Eagles -2.75 (3.5 units)Bucs -2.75 (2.5 units)Bills -7.5 (2.5 units)Chiefs -5 (2 units)Bears +2.5 (2 units)Colts +3.5 (2 units)Commanders -3 (2 units) GL all

    Love the Eagles this week, both teams can score, but I believe Eagles have the better D, and their O can control the clock much better than the fins.

    Bucs at this short number looks money to me, Dirty birds only play dirty at home.

    I just do not see how the pats stay close to this game, it isnt snowing yet right?

    Chiefs have the better QB for sure, but these divisional games with these weird odds have crazy outcome, I honestly think the bolts have a good chance to win this game, Mahomes is God like but his WR's are sadly nowhere near his level of play yet.

    I am very surprise to see you play the Bears, would love to hear what you see in this game.

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 11:10 AM ET #41

    Bring those money bags home van good luck today on Sunday Fundaymoneybagpeace_5

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    Best of luck Van.  an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2: I have bee liking the Falcons all week  What is your reasoning for the Bucs? Mostly has to do with the Falcons cannot get to the passer and is horrible against the pass. Baker can get it done when not under constant pressure - he should have time today - and the ATL secondary has been terrible. Atl has no offensive advantage - and if they fall behind Ridder is 3rd in the NFL in turnover potential. All of it adds up to a good day for TB.

     

    I disagree with them being terrible against the pass yes their pass rush is week but they rank 8th against the pass giving up 190 yards a game

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    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2: I have bee liking the Falcons all week  What is your reasoning for the Bucs? Mostly has to do with the Falcons cannot get to the passer and is horrible against the pass. Baker can get it done when not under constant pressure - he should have time today - and the ATL secondary has been terrible. Atl has no offensive advantage - and if they fall behind Ridder is 3rd in the NFL in turnover potential. All of it adds up to a good day for TB.

     

    I disagree with them being terrible against the pass yes their pass rush is week but they rank 8th against the pass giving up 190 yards a game

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 11:16 AM ET #44

    BOL today Van! and all of US an_cheers

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2023 - 11:17 AM ET #46

    Herbert is 5-1 career versus the Chiefs

     

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     No to commanders and bears. Can't wager on community College qb.  Giants due for a win and I think with they will finally score td and grind it out today

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     No to commanders and bears. Can't wager on community College qb.  Giants due for a win and I think with they will finally score td and grind it out today

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2: I have bee liking the Falcons all week  What is your reasoning for the Bucs? Mostly has to do with the Falcons cannot get to the passer and is horrible against the pass. Baker can get it done when not under constant pressure - he should have time today - and the ATL secondary has been terrible. Atl has no offensive advantage - and if they fall behind Ridder is 3rd in the NFL in turnover potential. All of it adds up to a good day for TB.   I disagree with them being terrible against the pass yes their pass rush is week but they rank 8th against the pass giving up 190 yards a game

    29th DVOA.

    Raw stats are garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2: I have bee liking the Falcons all week  What is your reasoning for the Bucs? Mostly has to do with the Falcons cannot get to the passer and is horrible against the pass. Baker can get it done when not under constant pressure - he should have time today - and the ATL secondary has been terrible. Atl has no offensive advantage - and if they fall behind Ridder is 3rd in the NFL in turnover potential. All of it adds up to a good day for TB.   I disagree with them being terrible against the pass yes their pass rush is week but they rank 8th against the pass giving up 190 yards a game

    29th DVOA.

    Raw stats are garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2: I have bee liking the Falcons all week  What is your reasoning for the Bucs? Mostly has to do with the Falcons cannot get to the passer and is horrible against the pass. Baker can get it done when not under constant pressure - he should have time today - and the ATL secondary has been terrible. Atl has no offensive advantage - and if they fall behind Ridder is 3rd in the NFL in turnover potential. All of it adds up to a good day for TB.

    @van, in this regard, looks like Falcons are #4 in Hurry% and #3 in Pressure%

    I assume you've pinpointed how that % changes when they are up vs when they are down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2: I have bee liking the Falcons all week  What is your reasoning for the Bucs? Mostly has to do with the Falcons cannot get to the passer and is horrible against the pass. Baker can get it done when not under constant pressure - he should have time today - and the ATL secondary has been terrible. Atl has no offensive advantage - and if they fall behind Ridder is 3rd in the NFL in turnover potential. All of it adds up to a good day for TB.

    @van, in this regard, looks like Falcons are #4 in Hurry% and #3 in Pressure%

    I assume you've pinpointed how that % changes when they are up vs when they are down?

     
     
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