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    Let's talk CHI Bears New Head Coach, Ben Johnson

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    sundance
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2025 - 11:59 AM ET #26

    Inside the link below is Ben Johnson's introductory press conference as HC of the Chicago Bears! Bear Down Chicago Bears! 

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    Caleb Williams on working with Ben Johnson | Press Conference

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    Inside the link below is Ben Johnson's introductory press conference as HC of the Chicago Bears! Bear Down Chicago Bears! 

    Ben Johnson introductory press conference

    Caleb regarding Ben Johnson as HC!

    Caleb Williams on working with Ben Johnson | Press Conference

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2025 - 1:36 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by justliketoplay:

    @AJWayne   I don't think age has anything to do with it I mean if Mike ditka was available ailing and all put him in a wheelchair as long as his mind is there 100%. The man knows football offenses and defenses and can put a game play together for his team without question. My mother is 91 years old and is as sharp as a tack in the mind .( Back issues but walker abled) I think the age issue is irrelevant.  If he can coach and he's noted to be a good coach then let him coach and give them a chance to get this team on track.....Im all for that!    .

    Ditka wasn't the greatest coach everyone makes him out to be. Without Buddy Ryan and Walter Payton, the 85 Bears don't exist.

    Is this the same Mike Ditka that gave away the entire draft for Ricky Williams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justliketoplay:

    @AJWayne   I don't think age has anything to do with it I mean if Mike ditka was available ailing and all put him in a wheelchair as long as his mind is there 100%. The man knows football offenses and defenses and can put a game play together for his team without question. My mother is 91 years old and is as sharp as a tack in the mind .( Back issues but walker abled) I think the age issue is irrelevant.  If he can coach and he's noted to be a good coach then let him coach and give them a chance to get this team on track.....Im all for that!    .

    Ditka wasn't the greatest coach everyone makes him out to be. Without Buddy Ryan and Walter Payton, the 85 Bears don't exist.

    Is this the same Mike Ditka that gave away the entire draft for Ricky Williams?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2025 - 1:49 PM ET #28

    @undermysac

     Yes indeed the personnel on that team was top notchpeace_5

    But the team was 100% disciplined under Ditka and rarely got penalties because if they did they were benched! 

    When I win Money it's my money and NOT house money
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    @undermysac

     Yes indeed the personnel on that team was top notchpeace_5

    But the team was 100% disciplined under Ditka and rarely got penalties because if they did they were benched! 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2025 - 2:09 PM ET #29

    [Quote: Originally Posted by AJWayne]@Rush51  Does he look and act like 73? Don't know, I haven't really seen him. Doesn't matter. He IS 73! It would be a short term gig, why do that? I think he was a great coach, just not his time anymore.  @Crusher13  LOL! You really KNOW he can't do this? Please explain. Provide the details you know that are factual[/Quote]

    Yeah, it's clear minority owner Tom Brady of the Raiders disagrees on his potential.  

    Carroll is their  new HC. 

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by AJWayne]@Rush51  Does he look and act like 73? Don't know, I haven't really seen him. Doesn't matter. He IS 73! It would be a short term gig, why do that? I think he was a great coach, just not his time anymore.  @Crusher13  LOL! You really KNOW he can't do this? Please explain. Provide the details you know that are factual[/Quote]

    Yeah, it's clear minority owner Tom Brady of the Raiders disagrees on his potential.  

    Carroll is their  new HC. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2025 - 2:30 PM ET #30

    Bears will surprise people next year. 

    That ridiculous Hail Mary when they played Washington ruined their entire season. Sucked the wind right out of them. They'll be back next year when G.B. & Minny take a step back.

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    Bears will surprise people next year. 

    That ridiculous Hail Mary when they played Washington ruined their entire season. Sucked the wind right out of them. They'll be back next year when G.B. & Minny take a step back.

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by undermysac]Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13: @Rush51 OP, totally agree on his inability to create that transformational "Culture " change..Even old Pete Carroll could have changed this team's trajectory...sad time to be a Bears diehard How can you possibly know?? No one does. Have you guys been following this dude his whole career? Do you know how he's like behind the scenes? Is he a good father? Do you agree with his morales, or lack there of?[/Quote]

    As you mentioned earlier, no one knows for sure what kind of guy this will be as HC.  But , we "know" what kind of guy Pete Carroll is... He's a team leader.  We "know" Ben Johnson is a great offensive coordinator, but we don't have a clue what kind of team leader this guy will be.  Not saying he can't be something special, but the success rate on these coordinator hires as HCs seems be about 50/50 recently, at best (Add R. Saleh to the mix).   I would rather go with the more proven commodity when he's right there in front of you in the interview room.   

     

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by undermysac]Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13: @Rush51 OP, totally agree on his inability to create that transformational "Culture " change..Even old Pete Carroll could have changed this team's trajectory...sad time to be a Bears diehard How can you possibly know?? No one does. Have you guys been following this dude his whole career? Do you know how he's like behind the scenes? Is he a good father? Do you agree with his morales, or lack there of?[/Quote]

    As you mentioned earlier, no one knows for sure what kind of guy this will be as HC.  But , we "know" what kind of guy Pete Carroll is... He's a team leader.  We "know" Ben Johnson is a great offensive coordinator, but we don't have a clue what kind of team leader this guy will be.  Not saying he can't be something special, but the success rate on these coordinator hires as HCs seems be about 50/50 recently, at best (Add R. Saleh to the mix).   I would rather go with the more proven commodity when he's right there in front of you in the interview room.   

     

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2025 - 5:24 PM ET #32

    If Ben Johnson and his staff can put together and develop an Offensive line he will be fine.  Hopefully he picked up some grit from Dan Campbell.  His offense  in Detroit flourished with a pocket passer, I am excited to see what he does with mobility.  

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    If Ben Johnson and his staff can put together and develop an Offensive line he will be fine.  Hopefully he picked up some grit from Dan Campbell.  His offense  in Detroit flourished with a pocket passer, I am excited to see what he does with mobility.  

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