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    Kapernick is black balled by the owners

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    MikeMed
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 1:17 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by ajaram21:

    your racism is showing. Lol white privilege is a mf. Bunch of crybabies with your feelers being hurt. darn the police state minorities live in cause you white feeling are hurt. friggin snowflakes.



    So if you dont support Kapernick your a racist?

    You can not defend your opinion so instead you cry racism.

    So ignorant  
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaram21:

    your racism is showing. Lol white privilege is a mf. Bunch of crybabies with your feelers being hurt. darn the police state minorities live in cause you white feeling are hurt. friggin snowflakes.



    So if you dont support Kapernick your a racist?

    You can not defend your opinion so instead you cry racism.

    So ignorant  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 1:47 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMed:

    Baltimore was considering signing him......The owner reached out to Ray Lewis who is very popular in the community to get his take on how the community will react to Kaps possible signing ....This is the same owner who hired Ozzie Newsome as their GM who is african american.......Then Kap tweets a picture of the Ravens owner portraying him as a slave master and of Ray Lewis portraying him as a slave hugging his master....Yeah really.

    Now Miami is considering him......Oh yeah but wait....Kap wore a Fidel Castro T-shirt the last time he was in Miami where a large portion of community are Cuban exiles or families of Cuban exiles.......Castro was a murderous dictator from Cuba and obviously a much hated man in Miami.....Yet Kap wore this shirt IN MIAMI 

    AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY HE CANT GET A JOB....REALLY???

    And nevermind all of the protesting, loss of ticket sales, drop of TV ratings and viewership  and potential boycotts  of any team that chooses to sign him will have to deal with.....

    I just dont get why people think it would be an overall good move to sign him.

    Reach out to Ray Lewis? Remember when that popular member of community got away with killing that guy?  Again WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?  Talent If signing Kap was going to be difference maker a team would have him.  For fack sake the Cowboys signed Greg Hardy but no one would touch Rice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMed:

    Baltimore was considering signing him......The owner reached out to Ray Lewis who is very popular in the community to get his take on how the community will react to Kaps possible signing ....This is the same owner who hired Ozzie Newsome as their GM who is african american.......Then Kap tweets a picture of the Ravens owner portraying him as a slave master and of Ray Lewis portraying him as a slave hugging his master....Yeah really.

    Now Miami is considering him......Oh yeah but wait....Kap wore a Fidel Castro T-shirt the last time he was in Miami where a large portion of community are Cuban exiles or families of Cuban exiles.......Castro was a murderous dictator from Cuba and obviously a much hated man in Miami.....Yet Kap wore this shirt IN MIAMI 

    AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY HE CANT GET A JOB....REALLY???

    And nevermind all of the protesting, loss of ticket sales, drop of TV ratings and viewership  and potential boycotts  of any team that chooses to sign him will have to deal with.....

    I just dont get why people think it would be an overall good move to sign him.

    Reach out to Ray Lewis? Remember when that popular member of community got away with killing that guy?  Again WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?  Talent If signing Kap was going to be difference maker a team would have him.  For fack sake the Cowboys signed Greg Hardy but no one would touch Rice.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 2:37 PM ET #28

    Have you seen Kaepernick against the Seahawks? He looked like a deer in headlights every time the Niners play them LOL

    Personally, I don't want the Ravens to sign him I think he'll do us dirty somewhere down the line for ruining his Super Bowl dream. Imagine if he had won, it would of been him and not Flacco inheriting millions otherwise this wouldn't be a discussion right now. Harbaugh should have kept it lowkey when asked about it..
    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    Have you seen Kaepernick against the Seahawks? He looked like a deer in headlights every time the Niners play them LOL

    Personally, I don't want the Ravens to sign him I think he'll do us dirty somewhere down the line for ruining his Super Bowl dream. Imagine if he had won, it would of been him and not Flacco inheriting millions otherwise this wouldn't be a discussion right now. Harbaugh should have kept it lowkey when asked about it..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:22 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by usarmy69-71:

    he will play in the afl---arab football league--being a veteran he sucks and should go to his home country if he dosent like  this one.

    He's not arab. He's not muslim This is his country as much as it is yours. And I don't think he was/is forwarding thinking enough to anticipate his protest being interpretted as a slight to the Troops. What reason does he have to disrespect the troops. That's something the media created and we ran with because we're all just a modern day lynch mob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usarmy69-71:

    he will play in the afl---arab football league--being a veteran he sucks and should go to his home country if he dosent like  this one.

    He's not arab. He's not muslim This is his country as much as it is yours. And I don't think he was/is forwarding thinking enough to anticipate his protest being interpretted as a slight to the Troops. What reason does he have to disrespect the troops. That's something the media created and we ran with because we're all just a modern day lynch mob.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:25 PM ET #30

    Interesting choice of words, to say the least......
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    Interesting choice of words, to say the least......
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:36 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    It's funny how the NFL, and fans, will try to blame Kap for ratings being down and not the NFL putting out a subpar product. If you want to entertain the notion that Kap affected the ratings of teams he didn't even play against, that the mighty NFL is that vulnerable, then I may as well entertain the notion that the world is flat. The TV ratings and gate for Kap's own team were down and as a local I can tell you it had nothing to do with him and everything to do with the fans being fed up with the ownership and GM, and the product they put on the field. Kap's stand (or kneel as it were) was not a big story in the Bay Area. The story was a spoiled brat kid for an owner and his unqualified buddy of a GM who collectively were inept at running a team. 


    We must agree to disagree on this. I get it, in your world in the bay area, you do not know my Bubba friends from the south. In my world, of Bubba, there were countless people who tuned out and it was solely based on the Kap taking a knee and disrespecting my country. I personally heard this over and over and over and over again

    Bay area may not represent the country as a whole
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    It's funny how the NFL, and fans, will try to blame Kap for ratings being down and not the NFL putting out a subpar product. If you want to entertain the notion that Kap affected the ratings of teams he didn't even play against, that the mighty NFL is that vulnerable, then I may as well entertain the notion that the world is flat. The TV ratings and gate for Kap's own team were down and as a local I can tell you it had nothing to do with him and everything to do with the fans being fed up with the ownership and GM, and the product they put on the field. Kap's stand (or kneel as it were) was not a big story in the Bay Area. The story was a spoiled brat kid for an owner and his unqualified buddy of a GM who collectively were inept at running a team. 


    We must agree to disagree on this. I get it, in your world in the bay area, you do not know my Bubba friends from the south. In my world, of Bubba, there were countless people who tuned out and it was solely based on the Kap taking a knee and disrespecting my country. I personally heard this over and over and over and over again

    Bay area may not represent the country as a whole
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:49 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by omb1:

    2) His credentials also include, BEATING OUT A YOUNGER ALEX SMITH  for the starting job on a 49er team that went to the SB

    Kaepernick is 4 years younger than Alex Smith.  Did you mean that Smith was younger at the time?

    Yes, the younger version of Smith
    Poor English sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by omb1:

    2) His credentials also include, BEATING OUT A YOUNGER ALEX SMITH  for the starting job on a 49er team that went to the SB

    Kaepernick is 4 years younger than Alex Smith.  Did you mean that Smith was younger at the time?

    Yes, the younger version of Smith
    Poor English sorry
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 6:36 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:



    We must agree to disagree on this. I get it, in your world in the bay area, you do not know my Bubba friends from the south. In my world, of Bubba, there were countless people who tuned out and it was solely based on the Kap taking a knee and disrespecting my country. I personally heard this over and over and over and over again

    Bay area may not represent the country as a whole

    What part of the south are your Bubba friends from because every Bubba I know from the South is a football fanatic who isn't going to stop supporting their team because one guy 2-3,000 miles away is taking a knee. If you're a Jags fan, your team is playing the Colts, are you tuning out because of Kap...or because your team sucks? It's funny how the Cowboys didn't have a problem with TV ratings and attendance. How about the Patriots? The Packers? What about Atlanta? Bottom line is the NFL laid an egg last year. They put a bad product out there aside from a few teams. There were some horrible nationally televised games, the fans responded, and the NFL blamed Kap. The media helped foster this notion, they work with the NFL after all, and the notion took a life of it's own. Again, why weren't fans turning off Atlanta? The Cowboys? These are heavy red fan bases. Why weren't they turning off the Patriots? It's not because Kap made everyone feel Patriotic.
    I'll end by saying this. Does everyone remember the two back to back sunday night games that ended in ties? And they weren't entertaining, back and forth ties. They were baaaad ties. And I like defensive games. Did those games receive low ratings because of Kap or because they sucked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:



    We must agree to disagree on this. I get it, in your world in the bay area, you do not know my Bubba friends from the south. In my world, of Bubba, there were countless people who tuned out and it was solely based on the Kap taking a knee and disrespecting my country. I personally heard this over and over and over and over again

    Bay area may not represent the country as a whole

    What part of the south are your Bubba friends from because every Bubba I know from the South is a football fanatic who isn't going to stop supporting their team because one guy 2-3,000 miles away is taking a knee. If you're a Jags fan, your team is playing the Colts, are you tuning out because of Kap...or because your team sucks? It's funny how the Cowboys didn't have a problem with TV ratings and attendance. How about the Patriots? The Packers? What about Atlanta? Bottom line is the NFL laid an egg last year. They put a bad product out there aside from a few teams. There were some horrible nationally televised games, the fans responded, and the NFL blamed Kap. The media helped foster this notion, they work with the NFL after all, and the notion took a life of it's own. Again, why weren't fans turning off Atlanta? The Cowboys? These are heavy red fan bases. Why weren't they turning off the Patriots? It's not because Kap made everyone feel Patriotic.
    I'll end by saying this. Does everyone remember the two back to back sunday night games that ended in ties? And they weren't entertaining, back and forth ties. They were baaaad ties. And I like defensive games. Did those games receive low ratings because of Kap or because they sucked?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 8:05 PM ET #34

    HE IS ETHIOPIAN HE SUCKS HE HAD ONE GD YEAR HE IS JUST ONE OF MANY WHO COME HERE  AND DO NOTHING FOR THE COUNTRY.

    He's not arab. He's not muslim This is his country as much as it is yours. And I don't think he was/is forwarding thinking enough to anticipate his protest being interpretted as a slight to the Troops. What reason does he have to disrespect the troops. That's something the media created and we ran with because we're all just a modern day lynch mob.
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    HE IS ETHIOPIAN HE SUCKS HE HAD ONE GD YEAR HE IS JUST ONE OF MANY WHO COME HERE  AND DO NOTHING FOR THE COUNTRY.

    He's not arab. He's not muslim This is his country as much as it is yours. And I don't think he was/is forwarding thinking enough to anticipate his protest being interpretted as a slight to the Troops. What reason does he have to disrespect the troops. That's something the media created and we ran with because we're all just a modern day lynch mob.
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 9:19 PM ET #35

    just passing thru aiming to get the spam off the first page in here
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    just passing thru aiming to get the spam off the first page in here
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2017 - 3:45 AM ET #36

    Why doesn't "black lives matter" when it comes to gangs in Chicago....miami.....NYC......black ppl need to have some accountability for the things WE do!!!!
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    Why doesn't "black lives matter" when it comes to gangs in Chicago....miami.....NYC......black ppl need to have some accountability for the things WE do!!!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2017 - 7:35 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by bobafett:

    Why doesn't "black lives matter" when it comes to gangs in Chicago....miami.....NYC......black ppl need to have some accountability for the things WE do!!!!



    Exactly....every Monday morning on the news, we hear about 30-40 shot over the weekend in Chicago....about 90% of those shooting (maybe more) are black vs black.....and no protests or BLM outrage for any of that 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobafett:

    Why doesn't "black lives matter" when it comes to gangs in Chicago....miami.....NYC......black ppl need to have some accountability for the things WE do!!!!



    Exactly....every Monday morning on the news, we hear about 30-40 shot over the weekend in Chicago....about 90% of those shooting (maybe more) are black vs black.....and no protests or BLM outrage for any of that 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2017 - 3:45 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by zebrakiller:

    YO Crash Davis i couldnt say it any better Than you did. I
    was fan of 49ers for years BUT after what he did no sir aint watching any 49er game but i still did fade them most all last year.fugggggggggg you Kraperdidick u cost the laegue way too much $$$ Now go  in a corner for rest of your life and kneel baby Kneel all you want while they play the national anthem on every telvised sporting event you dumb stupid lil black boy.





    I hear ya.
    You and he NFL owners are in total agreement
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    Quote Originally Posted by zebrakiller:

    YO Crash Davis i couldnt say it any better Than you did. I
    was fan of 49ers for years BUT after what he did no sir aint watching any 49er game but i still did fade them most all last year.fugggggggggg you Kraperdidick u cost the laegue way too much $$$ Now go  in a corner for rest of your life and kneel baby Kneel all you want while they play the national anthem on every telvised sporting event you dumb stupid lil black boy.





    I hear ya.
    You and he NFL owners are in total agreement
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2017 - 3:52 PM ET #39

    I am still , crash do you really think if cam newton did that he would be without a job?   Kap is good enough to play in league but not good enough to make a difference.  Why would any team take on what he brings with him, if he isn't going to be the difference maker.  
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    I am still , crash do you really think if cam newton did that he would be without a job?   Kap is good enough to play in league but not good enough to make a difference.  Why would any team take on what he brings with him, if he isn't going to be the difference maker.  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2017 - 5:47 PM ET #40

    I guess RGIII is being black balled as well.

    Honestly, I lean to the left. But, the media narrative here is beyond "try hard". The guy isn't that good. Period. Add to that the baggage he brings. 

    I don't blame the owners. 


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    I guess RGIII is being black balled as well.

    Honestly, I lean to the left. But, the media narrative here is beyond "try hard". The guy isn't that good. Period. Add to that the baggage he brings. 

    I don't blame the owners. 


     
    omb1
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2017 - 6:56 PM ET #41

    There were other reasons the NFL saw a (slight) decline last year:

    1.  Cleveland / Chicago World Series 

    2.  Trump / Clinton Presidential Debates, and the large uptick cable news saw in ratings throughout the election season.

    3.  Weaker than usual Prime Time Game Scheduling.

    and perhaps biggest of all:

    3.  NFL Red Zone is finally starting to take its toll on network broadcasts.  I used to watch entire Sunday afternoon games, now myself and pretty much everyone I know has Red Zone on the TV from 1pm-730pm every Sunday.

    I find it ludicrous to think that a significant number of people turned away from NFL viewing because they were offended by a misguided, has-been dingbat who tried to make a political statement.  Gimme a break. 
          
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    There were other reasons the NFL saw a (slight) decline last year:

    1.  Cleveland / Chicago World Series 

    2.  Trump / Clinton Presidential Debates, and the large uptick cable news saw in ratings throughout the election season.

    3.  Weaker than usual Prime Time Game Scheduling.

    and perhaps biggest of all:

    3.  NFL Red Zone is finally starting to take its toll on network broadcasts.  I used to watch entire Sunday afternoon games, now myself and pretty much everyone I know has Red Zone on the TV from 1pm-730pm every Sunday.

    I find it ludicrous to think that a significant number of people turned away from NFL viewing because they were offended by a misguided, has-been dingbat who tried to make a political statement.  Gimme a break. 
          
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2017 - 7:25 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by bobafett:

    Why doesn't "black lives matter" when it comes to gangs in Chicago....miami.....NYC......black ppl need to have some accountability for the things WE do!!!!

    I was going to say this is slightly off subject but I guess it's not. I totally agree. The problem I have with blacks lives matter is that it's not agenda driven organization. And in that they are just like just like Kap. So you want to protest? Ok, what do you want to accomplish with this protest? "We want to stop police from killing black people." Ok but that's a generalization. What do you really want to accomplish? Do you want to reform police hiring practices? Do you want to reform police training practices? Do you want to foster better relationships and communication between police and the police? Do you want to drive more African-Americans to go into Law Enforcement and get rid of the ridiculous stigma we attach to that job in the black community?
    I've just now, in a covers post, already suggested more to help the problem than Black Lives Matter, Colin Kaepernick, the politicians, and the media combined. The whole thing is a joke that the very exploitive media and politicians help perpetuate for their own gain. And Colin Kaepernick, a mixed race country boy raised by two white, adoptive parents, is mixed up in it waaaaay above his head. And if you count the 'fro he's like 7' tall. That tells you the sh!t is deep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobafett:

    Why doesn't "black lives matter" when it comes to gangs in Chicago....miami.....NYC......black ppl need to have some accountability for the things WE do!!!!

    I was going to say this is slightly off subject but I guess it's not. I totally agree. The problem I have with blacks lives matter is that it's not agenda driven organization. And in that they are just like just like Kap. So you want to protest? Ok, what do you want to accomplish with this protest? "We want to stop police from killing black people." Ok but that's a generalization. What do you really want to accomplish? Do you want to reform police hiring practices? Do you want to reform police training practices? Do you want to foster better relationships and communication between police and the police? Do you want to drive more African-Americans to go into Law Enforcement and get rid of the ridiculous stigma we attach to that job in the black community?
    I've just now, in a covers post, already suggested more to help the problem than Black Lives Matter, Colin Kaepernick, the politicians, and the media combined. The whole thing is a joke that the very exploitive media and politicians help perpetuate for their own gain. And Colin Kaepernick, a mixed race country boy raised by two white, adoptive parents, is mixed up in it waaaaay above his head. And if you count the 'fro he's like 7' tall. That tells you the sh!t is deep.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2017 - 8:59 AM ET #43

    I am different from a lot of posters on covers, as I can change my mind. As I read this post, I realize that maybe Colin is blackballed, or maybe he has just blackballed himself with all the baggage. In the end, I guess it is a distinction without a difference as we will never know and that shirt looks like the post initially stated that he will never play in the NFL again.
    As to the idea that he is solely responsible for the ratings been down in the league , Again, that may very well be a distinction without a difference. To me, in the eyes of the owner, most of the other things that people are saying could be responsible for the readings being down, the owners have no control over . As for Collin Kaepernick, they do have control over that and he sure seems to be having a lot of trouble finding a job. After watching way too much preseason football last night and way too many second third fourth and even fifth string quarterback's, like any rational human, Kaepernick would have a job if he chose a quieter path. In the end, that was my point all along.
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    I am different from a lot of posters on covers, as I can change my mind. As I read this post, I realize that maybe Colin is blackballed, or maybe he has just blackballed himself with all the baggage. In the end, I guess it is a distinction without a difference as we will never know and that shirt looks like the post initially stated that he will never play in the NFL again.
    As to the idea that he is solely responsible for the ratings been down in the league , Again, that may very well be a distinction without a difference. To me, in the eyes of the owner, most of the other things that people are saying could be responsible for the readings being down, the owners have no control over . As for Collin Kaepernick, they do have control over that and he sure seems to be having a lot of trouble finding a job. After watching way too much preseason football last night and way too many second third fourth and even fifth string quarterback's, like any rational human, Kaepernick would have a job if he chose a quieter path. In the end, that was my point all along.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2017 - 10:34 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Here's been washed up now for almost two and a half years.


    I'm sick and tired of people saying the league is racist. They let Ray Lewis back in the league after he murdered someone. They also let Michael Vick back in the league after he tortured and killed dog. All the NFL cares about is money if you have any talent to win games you'll be on a roster.

    He did sell the most jersey's last season if I'm not mistaken ... He also helped the NFL lose fans with his kneeling and the rising exposure of CTE awareness over the last couple years. Someone said earlier that he should give back everything he's earned - I like Tupac's description of millionaires. In an interview (and I'm paraphrasing a little) he said  "Most millionaires claim to be 'humanitarians' but what have they really done other than boost their image in public while they go home to their fancy homes, nice cars and dolled up wives".
     Kap took advantage of a minority instead of helping it, disrespected veterans & angered the NFL, plus he was pretty garb at the end of his tenure - yeah I highly doubt he's coming back haha. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Here's been washed up now for almost two and a half years.


    I'm sick and tired of people saying the league is racist. They let Ray Lewis back in the league after he murdered someone. They also let Michael Vick back in the league after he tortured and killed dog. All the NFL cares about is money if you have any talent to win games you'll be on a roster.

    He did sell the most jersey's last season if I'm not mistaken ... He also helped the NFL lose fans with his kneeling and the rising exposure of CTE awareness over the last couple years. Someone said earlier that he should give back everything he's earned - I like Tupac's description of millionaires. In an interview (and I'm paraphrasing a little) he said  "Most millionaires claim to be 'humanitarians' but what have they really done other than boost their image in public while they go home to their fancy homes, nice cars and dolled up wives".
     Kap took advantage of a minority instead of helping it, disrespected veterans & angered the NFL, plus he was pretty garb at the end of his tenure - yeah I highly doubt he's coming back haha. 
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