34 I know you are obviously a colts fan. I am a Seahwaks fan. Don't really care about any other team. I just try to look for winning plays. While I respect your opinion and recognize you are a good capper, it is obvious to me you are just biased against NE.
Just curious here, but why would you rank the QB's as such?
#1 peyton manning #2 brett favre #3 carson palmer #4 tony romo #5 big ben #6 drew brees #7 vince young #8 jeff garcia #9 derek anderson #10 eli manning #11 david garrard #12 kurt warner #13 tom brady #14 donavon mcnabb #15 phillip rivers
Even if you made this list before the season, you could not honestly objectively think this list is accurate. Please explain your logic on this.
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34 I know you are obviously a colts fan. I am a Seahwaks fan. Don't really care about any other team. I just try to look for winning plays. While I respect your opinion and recognize you are a good capper, it is obvious to me you are just biased against NE.
Just curious here, but why would you rank the QB's as such?
#1 peyton manning #2 brett favre #3 carson palmer #4 tony romo #5 big ben #6 drew brees #7 vince young #8 jeff garcia #9 derek anderson #10 eli manning #11 david garrard #12 kurt warner #13 tom brady #14 donavon mcnabb #15 phillip rivers
Even if you made this list before the season, you could not honestly objectively think this list is accurate. Please explain your logic on this.
For me, every time I hold a grudge against a team, it gets in the way of me making smart picks.
Personally I like New England. They seem to be a strong play off of a bye. I also like Indy for the same reason. In neither case do I think any play on these two games is a slam dunk (although I am seriously favoring the over in the NE game).
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For me, every time I hold a grudge against a team, it gets in the way of me making smart picks.
Personally I like New England. They seem to be a strong play off of a bye. I also like Indy for the same reason. In neither case do I think any play on these two games is a slam dunk (although I am seriously favoring the over in the NE game).
34 I know you are obviously a colts fan. I am a Seahwaks fan. Don't really care about any other team. I just try to look for winning plays. While I respect your opinion and recognize you are a good capper, it is obvious to me you are just biased against NE.
Just curious here, but why would you rank the QB's as such?
#1 peyton manning #2 brett favre #3 carson palmer #4 tony romo #5 big ben #6 drew brees #7 vince young #8 jeff garcia #9 derek anderson #10 eli manning #11 david garrard #12 kurt warner #13 tom brady #14 donavon mcnabb #15 phillip rivers
Even if you made this list before the season, you could not honestly objectively think this list is accurate. Please explain your logic on this.
If 34Payton did in fact make this list, ALL your credibility is lost. PERIOD.
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Quote Originally Posted by seahawksrule:
34 I know you are obviously a colts fan. I am a Seahwaks fan. Don't really care about any other team. I just try to look for winning plays. While I respect your opinion and recognize you are a good capper, it is obvious to me you are just biased against NE.
Just curious here, but why would you rank the QB's as such?
#1 peyton manning #2 brett favre #3 carson palmer #4 tony romo #5 big ben #6 drew brees #7 vince young #8 jeff garcia #9 derek anderson #10 eli manning #11 david garrard #12 kurt warner #13 tom brady #14 donavon mcnabb #15 phillip rivers
Even if you made this list before the season, you could not honestly objectively think this list is accurate. Please explain your logic on this.
If 34Payton did in fact make this list, ALL your credibility is lost. PERIOD.
If in fact your posted it on the 12/31/07, it makes you even a bigger jack ass. Seriously dude, you may want to just come out and say you were drunk or something.
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If in fact your posted it on the 12/31/07, it makes you even a bigger jack ass. Seriously dude, you may want to just come out and say you were drunk or something.
1) I'm a bears fan have always been a bears fan.....but i enjoy the colts they are a team of class lead by there QB manning....
2) There is a very long winded answer too why i hate the patriots and alot of there fans not all the true patriots fan who has been there and never jumped ship even when they were terrible i have no problem with them.......it's the fair weather, bandwagon jumper, asslicking sob's who claim to be patriots fans when in truth there nothing more than some drunken loser whose life stinks so what does he do to make himself feel better that's right pretend your a big fan of the team with the best record so you can get on here a talk shit to others and try and make others feel bad so that your sorry ass life will seem better if it is only make believe!!!!!
3) That list was for those guys who i just talked about and they no who they are as well as i do see the thing is i don't take shit from nobody exspecially some drunken overdosed druggy who is setting in front of his computer in his trailer home and has'nt bathed in god knows when.......
4) so seahawkfan the list is not what i truly believe honestly i would have brady #3 behind manning and favre.....because manning is terrific and has a lot of class win or lose.....and favre because hell we seem him twice a year here in chicago the guy has truly been unbelievable!!!!!!!!
5) The only reason i'm truly here is help make myself and others lots of money but i have to fight thru all the assholes to try and do it.........
I hope i answered all your questions there!!!!! peace bro and goodluck to you.....
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seahawksrule,
1) I'm a bears fan have always been a bears fan.....but i enjoy the colts they are a team of class lead by there QB manning....
2) There is a very long winded answer too why i hate the patriots and alot of there fans not all the true patriots fan who has been there and never jumped ship even when they were terrible i have no problem with them.......it's the fair weather, bandwagon jumper, asslicking sob's who claim to be patriots fans when in truth there nothing more than some drunken loser whose life stinks so what does he do to make himself feel better that's right pretend your a big fan of the team with the best record so you can get on here a talk shit to others and try and make others feel bad so that your sorry ass life will seem better if it is only make believe!!!!!
3) That list was for those guys who i just talked about and they no who they are as well as i do see the thing is i don't take shit from nobody exspecially some drunken overdosed druggy who is setting in front of his computer in his trailer home and has'nt bathed in god knows when.......
4) so seahawkfan the list is not what i truly believe honestly i would have brady #3 behind manning and favre.....because manning is terrific and has a lot of class win or lose.....and favre because hell we seem him twice a year here in chicago the guy has truly been unbelievable!!!!!!!!
5) The only reason i'm truly here is help make myself and others lots of money but i have to fight thru all the assholes to try and do it.........
I hope i answered all your questions there!!!!! peace bro and goodluck to you.....
If your still here reading this thread here is one of the guys i'm talking about........
MDAAKD......Whats the deal with this guy well i will tell you he is just like a tout service he will come into my thread and try and make it look as though i'm stupid for betting against new england then you go see his thread and he bets against new england see he tells some people one thing and then turns around and tells something else to other people he is a two faced back stabber and if it were me i would'nt believe one damn thing he has to say!!!!!!!!!
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Seahawksrule,
If your still here reading this thread here is one of the guys i'm talking about........
MDAAKD......Whats the deal with this guy well i will tell you he is just like a tout service he will come into my thread and try and make it look as though i'm stupid for betting against new england then you go see his thread and he bets against new england see he tells some people one thing and then turns around and tells something else to other people he is a two faced back stabber and if it were me i would'nt believe one damn thing he has to say!!!!!!!!!
i understand man, I hate haters too. I love reading peoples opinions and then seeing how they stack against mine, but you will very rarely find me bash someones opinion (only if they are an a-hole).
I just wish more people would play thier own picks and stop crying when someones opinion turns out to be wrong. I get sick and tired of the bullshit.
I respect your opinion. Everyone is entitled to theirs. Oh, and yeah I know there is a lot or riff-raff in here to sort thru...
Like I said. I like my team, and everyone else is the flavor of the week for me...
BOL... Did you get around to starting the other thread with your ideas for the rest of the games?
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i understand man, I hate haters too. I love reading peoples opinions and then seeing how they stack against mine, but you will very rarely find me bash someones opinion (only if they are an a-hole).
I just wish more people would play thier own picks and stop crying when someones opinion turns out to be wrong. I get sick and tired of the bullshit.
I respect your opinion. Everyone is entitled to theirs. Oh, and yeah I know there is a lot or riff-raff in here to sort thru...
Like I said. I like my team, and everyone else is the flavor of the week for me...
BOL... Did you get around to starting the other thread with your ideas for the rest of the games?
It is now up but let me warn you that you may not like my outcome on the seahawks/packers game but that's why they play the games because anything can happen........Goodluck sir!!!!!!
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seahawksrule,
It is now up but let me warn you that you may not like my outcome on the seahawks/packers game but that's why they play the games because anything can happen........Goodluck sir!!!!!!
i believe the jacksonville jaguars will cover that line... plain and simple. its not about who my favorite team is or my team is better than yours.
GIANTS are my team and i did believe they will go to the superbowl before the season started just like the year before.
all of u patriots fans if u have been betting on them lately well im sorry to say but they have not covered in about a month. keep betting them and getting these ridiculous lines because they will not cover and meet up witht those lines.
BEST OF LUCK
ONLY TO THE GAMBLERS ON THIS FORUM.
good luck gentlemen
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i believe the jacksonville jaguars will cover that line... plain and simple. its not about who my favorite team is or my team is better than yours.
GIANTS are my team and i did believe they will go to the superbowl before the season started just like the year before.
all of u patriots fans if u have been betting on them lately well im sorry to say but they have not covered in about a month. keep betting them and getting these ridiculous lines because they will not cover and meet up witht those lines.
If your still here reading this thread here is one of the guys i'm talking about........
MDAAKD......Whats the deal with this guy well i will tell you he is just like a tout service he will come into my thread and try and make it look as though i'm stupid for betting against new england then you go see his thread and he bets against new england see he tells some people one thing and then turns around and tells something else to other people he is a two faced back stabber and if it were me i would'nt believe one damn thing he has to say!!!!!!!!!
Well, I guess I am in the same boat with 90% of the people who have responded to you then. I NEVER said that Jax would get blasted out of NE. I just said that you don't respect NE and what they have accomplished.
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Quote Originally Posted by 34paytonplace:
Seahawksrule,
If your still here reading this thread here is one of the guys i'm talking about........
MDAAKD......Whats the deal with this guy well i will tell you he is just like a tout service he will come into my thread and try and make it look as though i'm stupid for betting against new england then you go see his thread and he bets against new england see he tells some people one thing and then turns around and tells something else to other people he is a two faced back stabber and if it were me i would'nt believe one damn thing he has to say!!!!!!!!!
Well, I guess I am in the same boat with 90% of the people who have responded to you then. I NEVER said that Jax would get blasted out of NE. I just said that you don't respect NE and what they have accomplished.
Id put alota cash that 34hayton is that same fucking loserThe funny thing is in one of his posts he talked bout getting his ass kicked in BostonI can see why
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Quote Originally Posted by redsoxwin:
wow... deweytomko lives again.
Id put alota cash that 34hayton is that same fucking loserThe funny thing is in one of his posts he talked bout getting his ass kicked in BostonI can see why
I guess i can clear up the respect question.......See too me there are good teams, very good teams, and great teams....And the patriots are a very good team but not great...............See i believe in hard nosed tough smack you in the face defense like back in the day i mean look at those steelers clubs of the 70's....you had bradshaw,harris,swann,stallworth,blier i could go on but you get the point and these are hall-of-famers i believe the steelers have 13 players from the 70's in the hall so as you see they had great talent but alot of the time the AFC championship game would be like 9-7 final!!!!! because they smacked each other a round...........
But now they let you get away with everything you can't even touch the receiver without there being a flag and the QB'S use to really get hit back in the day now they will not let them hardly be touched without a personnel foul being called......And it's just not the patriots they remind me of the 1999-2000 st.louis rams espn the greatest show on turf see i did'nt like those guys either.......I think that is just all flash look at me style of football and i believe that this is pu$$y football it's as if you don't want to be hit like your afraid to be hit in the mouth you just want too look pretty........Just alot of rule changes that have sucked the life out of the game.......I just heard the other day on espn that when staubach retired in 1979 that he had the highest completion pct% in the game and now almost 30 years later chad pennington has a higher pct% along with about 60 other QB'S and it cannot be because there better it's because the game has changed.................
So let me get off my soap box...........the patriots very good but not great but that's me so if you think that is me disrespecting them then i don't no what else to say i just don't like that style of football that is all i can say about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mdaakd,
I guess i can clear up the respect question.......See too me there are good teams, very good teams, and great teams....And the patriots are a very good team but not great...............See i believe in hard nosed tough smack you in the face defense like back in the day i mean look at those steelers clubs of the 70's....you had bradshaw,harris,swann,stallworth,blier i could go on but you get the point and these are hall-of-famers i believe the steelers have 13 players from the 70's in the hall so as you see they had great talent but alot of the time the AFC championship game would be like 9-7 final!!!!! because they smacked each other a round...........
But now they let you get away with everything you can't even touch the receiver without there being a flag and the QB'S use to really get hit back in the day now they will not let them hardly be touched without a personnel foul being called......And it's just not the patriots they remind me of the 1999-2000 st.louis rams espn the greatest show on turf see i did'nt like those guys either.......I think that is just all flash look at me style of football and i believe that this is pu$$y football it's as if you don't want to be hit like your afraid to be hit in the mouth you just want too look pretty........Just alot of rule changes that have sucked the life out of the game.......I just heard the other day on espn that when staubach retired in 1979 that he had the highest completion pct% in the game and now almost 30 years later chad pennington has a higher pct% along with about 60 other QB'S and it cannot be because there better it's because the game has changed.................
So let me get off my soap box...........the patriots very good but not great but that's me so if you think that is me disrespecting them then i don't no what else to say i just don't like that style of football that is all i can say about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I respect your opinion, however the Patriots smack teams in the mouth pretty hard IMO. They aren't the traditional finesse team like you think they are. Their defense is ridiculous and can adjust to any style of football (whether it be passing 40 x or running 30 x).
You can't change the rules of the game, only follow them. I do agree that the 5 yard bump rule is BS and I think they are over-protecting the QBs this day in age.
And, please, don't compare the 70s Steelers HOFs with any team today because all of the 1500 + players are STILL playing. The Patriots will have a lot of HOFs when it is all said and done.
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I respect your opinion, however the Patriots smack teams in the mouth pretty hard IMO. They aren't the traditional finesse team like you think they are. Their defense is ridiculous and can adjust to any style of football (whether it be passing 40 x or running 30 x).
You can't change the rules of the game, only follow them. I do agree that the 5 yard bump rule is BS and I think they are over-protecting the QBs this day in age.
And, please, don't compare the 70s Steelers HOFs with any team today because all of the 1500 + players are STILL playing. The Patriots will have a lot of HOFs when it is all said and done.
What i was trying to say was that just look at all that incredible talent in the 70's but the championship final scores would be 9-7, 16-10.............
Then you fast foward to today and there is talent today but the scores for championship games are like 38-35 too me that's not true football........
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mdaakd,
What i was trying to say was that just look at all that incredible talent in the 70's but the championship final scores would be 9-7, 16-10.............
Then you fast foward to today and there is talent today but the scores for championship games are like 38-35 too me that's not true football........
What i was trying to say was that just look at all that incredible talent in the 70's but the championship final scores would be 9-7, 16-10.............
Then you fast foward to today and there is talent today but the scores for championship games are like 38-35 too me that's not true football........
Go watch soccer then, and beat it !
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Quote Originally Posted by 34paytonplace:
mdaakd,
What i was trying to say was that just look at all that incredible talent in the 70's but the championship final scores would be 9-7, 16-10.............
Then you fast foward to today and there is talent today but the scores for championship games are like 38-35 too me that's not true football........
a rested pats team laying less then 2 tds at home vs a one dimensional team that will have all the pressure in the world on it's qb because they will abandon the run again when they are down. 2 weeks to prepare for a vanilla offense is more than enough to shut down. This is the big stage..do you really think this game is close?? Out coached & out QB'ed and div round rested home team is more than enough to cover a soft spread like this vs a beat up and exhausted and flawed Jags tream. It was a nice run. Gimme the 3 favs & the Gints
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a rested pats team laying less then 2 tds at home vs a one dimensional team that will have all the pressure in the world on it's qb because they will abandon the run again when they are down. 2 weeks to prepare for a vanilla offense is more than enough to shut down. This is the big stage..do you really think this game is close?? Out coached & out QB'ed and div round rested home team is more than enough to cover a soft spread like this vs a beat up and exhausted and flawed Jags tream. It was a nice run. Gimme the 3 favs & the Gints
What i was trying to say was that just look at all that incredible talent in the 70's but the championship final scores would be 9-7, 16-10.............
Then you fast foward to today and there is talent today but the scores for championship games are like 38-35 too me that's not true football........
That makes NO sense. So, I'm assuming you like to watch low scoring games?! Boring if you ask me. Sells less tickets, harder to market, and even our fantasy teams would suck more .
I would take an epic shootout than a 9-7 game any day.
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Quote Originally Posted by 34paytonplace:
mdaakd,
What i was trying to say was that just look at all that incredible talent in the 70's but the championship final scores would be 9-7, 16-10.............
Then you fast foward to today and there is talent today but the scores for championship games are like 38-35 too me that's not true football........
That makes NO sense. So, I'm assuming you like to watch low scoring games?! Boring if you ask me. Sells less tickets, harder to market, and even our fantasy teams would suck more .
I would take an epic shootout than a 9-7 game any day.
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