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    Is just me or NFL games are fixed

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 10:59 PM ET #26

    @sudotech

     I don't care what you think, you're still paying your bookie tomorrow an_roll_laugh

    You're what is commonly known as a reload specialist thumbs_up

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     I don't care what you think, you're still paying your bookie tomorrow an_roll_laugh

    You're what is commonly known as a reload specialist thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 11:10 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

    When you claim it is "fixed" or "scripted" all you are ever doing is appealing to one mystery with an EVEN BIGGER MYSTERY. You asked a question. How is this possible? you asked. The answer, at best, for anyone, should be "I don't know." If your answer is "the game must be fixed" then you now have a bigger mystery on your hands. How is it fixed, when is is fixed, who decides who it is fixed towards, when is this decision made, how many players are aware of it, how many coaches are aware of it, how is the information passed on, how can all of it be kept a secret for so long, etc., etc., etc. And if your answer to all of those questions is, "I don't know," well... that should have been your answer one question earlier. How can so many extra points be blocked in one weekend?I don't know. How can so many favorites lose on the same weekend?I don't know. How can an official miss that call? I don't know. If you don't know, then, "I don't know" is your best answer. Saying it is fixed doesn't get you anywhere. When you say, fixed, you now have many other additional questions to answer. You are appealing to one mystery with an even bigger mystery.

     

    Mr. Hand:
    Mr. Spicoli, why are you continually late for this class? Why are you continually wasting my time and the classes with this tirade every day?

    Jeff Spicoli:
    Uh, uh... I don't know.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

    When you claim it is "fixed" or "scripted" all you are ever doing is appealing to one mystery with an EVEN BIGGER MYSTERY. You asked a question. How is this possible? you asked. The answer, at best, for anyone, should be "I don't know." If your answer is "the game must be fixed" then you now have a bigger mystery on your hands. How is it fixed, when is is fixed, who decides who it is fixed towards, when is this decision made, how many players are aware of it, how many coaches are aware of it, how is the information passed on, how can all of it be kept a secret for so long, etc., etc., etc. And if your answer to all of those questions is, "I don't know," well... that should have been your answer one question earlier. How can so many extra points be blocked in one weekend?I don't know. How can so many favorites lose on the same weekend?I don't know. How can an official miss that call? I don't know. If you don't know, then, "I don't know" is your best answer. Saying it is fixed doesn't get you anywhere. When you say, fixed, you now have many other additional questions to answer. You are appealing to one mystery with an even bigger mystery.

     

    Mr. Hand:
    Mr. Spicoli, why are you continually late for this class? Why are you continually wasting my time and the classes with this tirade every day?

    Jeff Spicoli:
    Uh, uh... I don't know.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 11:14 PM ET #28

    Titans came to play , rams underestimated them . Also titans on a 5 game win streak , rams havent beat anyone 

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    Titans came to play , rams underestimated them . Also titans on a 5 game win streak , rams havent beat anyone 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 11:37 PM ET #29

    Very Rigged Roger Goodell and Vegas want all your hard earned money any which way they can get it. They're all in on it.moneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybag

    Its all business.

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    Very Rigged Roger Goodell and Vegas want all your hard earned money any which way they can get it. They're all in on it.moneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybagmoneybag

    Its all business.

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 11:47 PM ET #30

    LOL, more guys coming in here defending the NFL is not fixed than the guys who complaint fix!

    an_roll_laugh

    Any straight guy want to make a wager with me for next week NFL Sunday. We pick 3 games. If I lose, I will stop talking about about fixed. If you lose, you should not defending the game being fixed.

    Ed or the1toturn2? I would take one of you guy.

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    LOL, more guys coming in here defending the NFL is not fixed than the guys who complaint fix!

    an_roll_laugh

    Any straight guy want to make a wager with me for next week NFL Sunday. We pick 3 games. If I lose, I will stop talking about about fixed. If you lose, you should not defending the game being fixed.

    Ed or the1toturn2? I would take one of you guy.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 11:49 PM ET #31

    ALL SPORTS ARE RIGGED, FIXED, SCAMMED!

    Money is everything. A player pays $50 Millions/year...A coach pays $50M/year.

     

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    ALL SPORTS ARE RIGGED, FIXED, SCAMMED!

    Money is everything. A player pays $50 Millions/year...A coach pays $50M/year.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 11:49 PM ET #32

    I bet you would take one of us 

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    I bet you would take one of us 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 11:55 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

    When you claim it is "fixed" or "scripted" all you are ever doing is appealing to one mystery with an EVEN BIGGER MYSTERY. You asked a question. How is this possible? you asked. The answer, at best, for anyone, should be "I don't know." If your answer is "the game must be fixed" then you now have a bigger mystery on your hands. How is it fixed, when is is fixed, who decides who it is fixed towards, when is this decision made, how many players are aware of it, how many coaches are aware of it, how is the information passed on, how can all of it be kept a secret for so long, etc., etc., etc. And if your answer to all of those questions is, "I don't know," well... that should have been your answer one question earlier. How can so many extra points be blocked in one weekend?I don't know. How can so many favorites lose on the same weekend?I don't know. How can an official miss that call? I don't know. If you don't know, then, "I don't know" is your best answer. Saying it is fixed doesn't get you anywhere. When you say, fixed, you now have many other additional questions to answer. You are appealing to one mystery with an even bigger mystery.

     

    but the answer to the question "how is this possible?" isnt "i dont know"...surely its "well its sporting contests between 2 teams and on any given day the lesser team can win by playing above themselves and being more motivated" or something to that effect.is it really considered a fuggin mystery why inferior teams beat better teams on ocassion?confused..i mean you only have to play or watch sports for a short while to conclude that this is completely feasible and reasonable...now to see a slew of them all clustered in a short timespan may shock us naturally as human beings.but thats just our confirmation bias and poor understanding of statistical probability kicking in.on a long enough timeline this will of course happen.we have had tonnes of faves covering for many weeks so its only a matter of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

    When you claim it is "fixed" or "scripted" all you are ever doing is appealing to one mystery with an EVEN BIGGER MYSTERY. You asked a question. How is this possible? you asked. The answer, at best, for anyone, should be "I don't know." If your answer is "the game must be fixed" then you now have a bigger mystery on your hands. How is it fixed, when is is fixed, who decides who it is fixed towards, when is this decision made, how many players are aware of it, how many coaches are aware of it, how is the information passed on, how can all of it be kept a secret for so long, etc., etc., etc. And if your answer to all of those questions is, "I don't know," well... that should have been your answer one question earlier. How can so many extra points be blocked in one weekend?I don't know. How can so many favorites lose on the same weekend?I don't know. How can an official miss that call? I don't know. If you don't know, then, "I don't know" is your best answer. Saying it is fixed doesn't get you anywhere. When you say, fixed, you now have many other additional questions to answer. You are appealing to one mystery with an even bigger mystery.

     

    but the answer to the question "how is this possible?" isnt "i dont know"...surely its "well its sporting contests between 2 teams and on any given day the lesser team can win by playing above themselves and being more motivated" or something to that effect.is it really considered a fuggin mystery why inferior teams beat better teams on ocassion?confused..i mean you only have to play or watch sports for a short while to conclude that this is completely feasible and reasonable...now to see a slew of them all clustered in a short timespan may shock us naturally as human beings.but thats just our confirmation bias and poor understanding of statistical probability kicking in.on a long enough timeline this will of course happen.we have had tonnes of faves covering for many weeks so its only a matter of time.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 11:58 PM ET #34

    LMAO there is so much proof that sports are fixed yet the blind sheeple stay in denial 

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    LMAO there is so much proof that sports are fixed yet the blind sheeple stay in denial 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 12:04 AM ET #35

    and their King arrives right on time 

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    and their King arrives right on time 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 12:09 AM ET #36

    an analysis of probability of underdogs winning pre-game vs post-game confirms that by the end of the season, the underdogs will have won exactly how much they were probable to win. How is this possible? Because each game adjusts the handicap to reflect the likelihood of a team winning the game. Over the course of hundreds of games, the handicaps are very accurate. In a single game, however, the margin of error is very large. I.E. a +7 game in football rarely is won by 7 points. The majority of the time, the dog keeps it closer or the favorite blows it up. 

    It seems like rigging because 7 points can be impacted by one play. 7 points is 13% of the scoring in a typical NFL game. So a ref takes back a touchdown on 3rd down, he is single-handedly effecting around 10% of the game. 

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    an analysis of probability of underdogs winning pre-game vs post-game confirms that by the end of the season, the underdogs will have won exactly how much they were probable to win. How is this possible? Because each game adjusts the handicap to reflect the likelihood of a team winning the game. Over the course of hundreds of games, the handicaps are very accurate. In a single game, however, the margin of error is very large. I.E. a +7 game in football rarely is won by 7 points. The majority of the time, the dog keeps it closer or the favorite blows it up. 

    It seems like rigging because 7 points can be impacted by one play. 7 points is 13% of the scoring in a typical NFL game. So a ref takes back a touchdown on 3rd down, he is single-handedly effecting around 10% of the game. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 12:18 AM ET #37

    There's no evidence the NFL is scripted / staged. If you think there is you simply don't know what "evidence" is.

    Present your evidence and let's have a discussion.

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    There's no evidence the NFL is scripted / staged. If you think there is you simply don't know what "evidence" is.

    Present your evidence and let's have a discussion.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 12:19 AM ET #38

    Every sports fixed an_worship

    You will lose if you don't have enough skills confused

    Just got to pick the right side an_fight

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    Every sports fixed an_worship

    You will lose if you don't have enough skills confused

    Just got to pick the right side an_fight

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 12:21 AM ET #39

    Yes, melossinglet, your answer is better than "I don't know." I was just giving an example. But "I don't know" is a better answer than, "FIX!" because "FIX!" doesn't answer anything at all. All it does is provide more questions.
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    Yes, melossinglet, your answer is better than "I don't know." I was just giving an example. But "I don't know" is a better answer than, "FIX!" because "FIX!" doesn't answer anything at all. All it does is provide more questions.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 12:24 AM ET #40

    The REASON why the NFL is such a big business is BECAUSE it's not staged or scripted. THAT's what makes it exciting. THAT'S what makes it popular.

    Furthermore, you simply can't fix it or stage it on the level that people here usually suggest... with thousands of players and coaches and NFL employees in on it... all while keeping it a secret.  Not possible.

    If you think the game is staged, present your evidence for peer review.

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    The REASON why the NFL is such a big business is BECAUSE it's not staged or scripted. THAT's what makes it exciting. THAT'S what makes it popular.

    Furthermore, you simply can't fix it or stage it on the level that people here usually suggest... with thousands of players and coaches and NFL employees in on it... all while keeping it a secret.  Not possible.

    If you think the game is staged, present your evidence for peer review.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 12:33 AM ET #41

    All sports are for entertainment ONLY don't you guys read the bottom of the line.. No different then drama movies..if you don't wants to be broke stop gambling!

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    All sports are for entertainment ONLY don't you guys read the bottom of the line.. No different then drama movies..if you don't wants to be broke stop gambling!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 12:42 AM ET #42

    Yes, almost all games are fixed.  There are different degrees of fixing in different games.  You need to be careful with Sunday night games because a lot of people use the obvious home favorites in their teasers and ML parlays.  After half-way point in NFL season better team on paper doesn't always win.  If you want to continue wager your hard earned money on these fixed games, you need to figure out a way to win money despite the fixes.  If you figure that out, continue to wager on these games.  Otherwise, just quit and do something else.

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    Yes, almost all games are fixed.  There are different degrees of fixing in different games.  You need to be careful with Sunday night games because a lot of people use the obvious home favorites in their teasers and ML parlays.  After half-way point in NFL season better team on paper doesn't always win.  If you want to continue wager your hard earned money on these fixed games, you need to figure out a way to win money despite the fixes.  If you figure that out, continue to wager on these games.  Otherwise, just quit and do something else.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 4:33 AM ET #43

    If you think games are fixed so next time just picks the winning rigged sides ??

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    If you think games are fixed so next time just picks the winning rigged sides ??

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Fball_Picks:

    The talent is far closer than the public thinks.
    Plus the 12 penalties for 115 yards for the Rams,vs the 4 penalties for 19 yards for the Titans,will make the talent level even seem a lot closer,or even irrelevant to the outcome of the game.Officials control the outcome of every play,never bet on primetime games,shady sh*t happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Fball_Picks:

    The talent is far closer than the public thinks.
    Plus the 12 penalties for 115 yards for the Rams,vs the 4 penalties for 19 yards for the Titans,will make the talent level even seem a lot closer,or even irrelevant to the outcome of the game.Officials control the outcome of every play,never bet on primetime games,shady sh*t happens.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 7:17 AM ET #45

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     The nfl defined itself as an entertainment company not a sport so the games aren’t fixed they’re produced for entertainment is all. We just don’t enjoy them when they decided a different outcome then we predicted. 

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     The nfl defined itself as an entertainment company not a sport so the games aren’t fixed they’re produced for entertainment is all. We just don’t enjoy them when they decided a different outcome then we predicted. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 7:31 AM ET #46

    @sudotech

     Don't forget the back door cover in the KC game, so obvious too.

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     Don't forget the back door cover in the KC game, so obvious too.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 8:35 AM ET #47

    Any given Sunday ....Seems like a distant memory now .....but these forums used to be somewhat decent . Im surprised that this thread hasnt turned into a political covid thread mess also  . What a shame the mains have become peace_5

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    Any given Sunday ....Seems like a distant memory now .....but these forums used to be somewhat decent . Im surprised that this thread hasnt turned into a political covid thread mess also  . What a shame the mains have become peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 11:24 AM ET #48

    It’s all FKn rigged, if you have a sports gambling problem and still considering to bet, just try to bet on the right side of the fixed lol

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    It’s all FKn rigged, if you have a sports gambling problem and still considering to bet, just try to bet on the right side of the fixed lol

     
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    @sudotech

     Obviously they are fixed -  I mean an NFL coach can't get away with saying person in an email from 10 years ago.  But the whole league is in on the big fix in cooperation with the bookies.  I mean who couldn't figure that out. 

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     Obviously they are fixed -  I mean an NFL coach can't get away with saying person in an email from 10 years ago.  But the whole league is in on the big fix in cooperation with the bookies.  I mean who couldn't figure that out. 

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     LoL    Covers replaced F***** in my post with the word person.  I am kinda glad they did, because I don't use that kind of language, just was making a point. 

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