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    Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:42 PM ET #776

    Here's what Tebow does well, very well, he protects the football.

    The best in NFL history with at least 1500 touches at protecting the football with fewer int's and fumbles is Rodgers, 2.85 percent of touches results in a TO.

    Tebow -- 2.63, the best ever at this point in his career, that is nothing to sneeze about there, when teams win the TO battle they win the game at a high rate, even bad teams win, they just win the TO battle less often.

    Another thing Tebow does well, score TD'S, his 6 percent TD rate per att pass or rush is better than Rodgers, Brady, Brees, P. Manning.

    So let's not say Tebow sucks just yet, yes he's had some poor quality competion but he is young to and can improve, we need to see more before we can make any judgements about him.

     

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    Here's what Tebow does well, very well, he protects the football.

    The best in NFL history with at least 1500 touches at protecting the football with fewer int's and fumbles is Rodgers, 2.85 percent of touches results in a TO.

    Tebow -- 2.63, the best ever at this point in his career, that is nothing to sneeze about there, when teams win the TO battle they win the game at a high rate, even bad teams win, they just win the TO battle less often.

    Another thing Tebow does well, score TD'S, his 6 percent TD rate per att pass or rush is better than Rodgers, Brady, Brees, P. Manning.

    So let's not say Tebow sucks just yet, yes he's had some poor quality competion but he is young to and can improve, we need to see more before we can make any judgements about him.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:44 PM ET #777

    if u would have bet 100 bucks on DENVER Tebow 1st win and rolled it over u would have won 23k..I thought Tebow was just winning on pure will ,but u can tell he s passing better and really figuring out these NfL DEFNSES...now Sunshine from the JAGS SUX..i still cant believe the JAGS had GARRAD AT TICKET PARTIES THEN CUT EM A FEW HRS LATER.They knew they were going to do it the whole time.TEBOW WILL GO TO PRO BOWL..SPARKS
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    if u would have bet 100 bucks on DENVER Tebow 1st win and rolled it over u would have won 23k..I thought Tebow was just winning on pure will ,but u can tell he s passing better and really figuring out these NfL DEFNSES...now Sunshine from the JAGS SUX..i still cant believe the JAGS had GARRAD AT TICKET PARTIES THEN CUT EM A FEW HRS LATER.They knew they were going to do it the whole time.TEBOW WILL GO TO PRO BOWL..SPARKS
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:45 PM ET #778

    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:

    lmao, Sparky here again just contradicted himself. Giants in the bottom 5 pass defense but beat the "team with a QB that NO defense can stop"' bring out Slick Rick to help you out, minion here is barely keeping up with shooter.

    The Giants 4th worst passing defense didn't stop Brady. He threw for 342 yards in that game and the only fault that was on Brady was that he scored with too much time on the clock.

    Eli came back down against the WORST passing defense and won with less than a minute on the clock.

    So 2 solid quarterbacks did their job while 2 horrible secondaries lived up to their numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:

    lmao, Sparky here again just contradicted himself. Giants in the bottom 5 pass defense but beat the "team with a QB that NO defense can stop"' bring out Slick Rick to help you out, minion here is barely keeping up with shooter.

    The Giants 4th worst passing defense didn't stop Brady. He threw for 342 yards in that game and the only fault that was on Brady was that he scored with too much time on the clock.

    Eli came back down against the WORST passing defense and won with less than a minute on the clock.

    So 2 solid quarterbacks did their job while 2 horrible secondaries lived up to their numbers.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:48 PM ET #779

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    That's where the problem lies.

    The PATRIOTS are a "good team" even though they have a shaky defense and lack a running game.

    But TEBOW is a "great quarterback" because of everything he does.

    Why is it that Tebow IS the Broncos but Brady isn't THE Patriots? Brady means far more to the Patriots' success than Tebow means to the Broncos' success. Maybe it's just me who thinks that but I think it's a pretty fair assessment.



     And how can Brady mean more to the Pats than Tebow means to the Broncos?  The Broncos were 1-4 when he took over and since they are 7-5.   Apparently he means quite a bit. 

     p.s. When the Pats did lose Brady they were a lot better off than the Colts are without Peyton.  they did pretty good without Brady actually.  Not taking anything away from Brady at all.  he is arguably the best thing goin....just sayin.  I bet if Brady was out and Mallet came in the Pats wouldn't be terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    That's where the problem lies.

    The PATRIOTS are a "good team" even though they have a shaky defense and lack a running game.

    But TEBOW is a "great quarterback" because of everything he does.

    Why is it that Tebow IS the Broncos but Brady isn't THE Patriots? Brady means far more to the Patriots' success than Tebow means to the Broncos' success. Maybe it's just me who thinks that but I think it's a pretty fair assessment.



     And how can Brady mean more to the Pats than Tebow means to the Broncos?  The Broncos were 1-4 when he took over and since they are 7-5.   Apparently he means quite a bit. 

     p.s. When the Pats did lose Brady they were a lot better off than the Colts are without Peyton.  they did pretty good without Brady actually.  Not taking anything away from Brady at all.  he is arguably the best thing goin....just sayin.  I bet if Brady was out and Mallet came in the Pats wouldn't be terrible.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:49 PM ET #780

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    So if someone has an opinion they must maintain that opinion until the day they die?  They aren’t allowed to change it when it gets proven wrong?

    Tebow might not even be in Denver next season so I have no idea why you are so certain he is going to be spending the next 5 seasons there.

     

    Of course not. But whose to say he was true with that initial opinion? He just came out of the blue and said he flipped sides when it was convenient and started trash talking the guy who everyone else is trash talking. That's like guy moving from New York to Oklahoma and, after the Thunder make the playoffs, he comes out of the blue and says "Oh, I'm a Thunder fan. They've really opened my eyes"...just to fit in.

    And of course he'll be with Denver next season. He's a cash cow right now and they aren't going to get Andrew Luck so he'll be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    So if someone has an opinion they must maintain that opinion until the day they die?  They aren’t allowed to change it when it gets proven wrong?

    Tebow might not even be in Denver next season so I have no idea why you are so certain he is going to be spending the next 5 seasons there.

     

    Of course not. But whose to say he was true with that initial opinion? He just came out of the blue and said he flipped sides when it was convenient and started trash talking the guy who everyone else is trash talking. That's like guy moving from New York to Oklahoma and, after the Thunder make the playoffs, he comes out of the blue and says "Oh, I'm a Thunder fan. They've really opened my eyes"...just to fit in.

    And of course he'll be with Denver next season. He's a cash cow right now and they aren't going to get Andrew Luck so he'll be there.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:51 PM ET #781

    Sparky,

    I totally agree with your comments on Brady and with your short list of best QB's in the league right now!!!
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    Sparky,

    I totally agree with your comments on Brady and with your short list of best QB's in the league right now!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:53 PM ET #782

    Quote Originally Posted by warcameagle56:

    if u would have bet 100 bucks on DENVER Tebow 1st win and rolled it over u would have won 23k..I thought Tebow was just winning on pure will ,but u can tell he s passing better and really figuring out these NfL DEFNSES...now Sunshine from the JAGS SUX..i still cant believe the JAGS had GARRAD AT TICKET PARTIES THEN CUT EM A FEW HRS LATER.They knew they were going to do it the whole time.TEBOW WILL GO TO PRO BOWL..SPARKS


    Tim Tebow!!!  I never thought to press and roll it.  And I thought I had been killing it.  I coulda made a small fortune. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by warcameagle56:

    if u would have bet 100 bucks on DENVER Tebow 1st win and rolled it over u would have won 23k..I thought Tebow was just winning on pure will ,but u can tell he s passing better and really figuring out these NfL DEFNSES...now Sunshine from the JAGS SUX..i still cant believe the JAGS had GARRAD AT TICKET PARTIES THEN CUT EM A FEW HRS LATER.They knew they were going to do it the whole time.TEBOW WILL GO TO PRO BOWL..SPARKS


    Tim Tebow!!!  I never thought to press and roll it.  And I thought I had been killing it.  I coulda made a small fortune. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:53 PM ET #783

    Feels like I've read the same comments 800 times when i look at this thread.

    I think we all said everything that needs to be said till next week

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    Feels like I've read the same comments 800 times when i look at this thread.

    I think we all said everything that needs to be said till next week

     
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    Sparky,

    I definitely want your thoughts about my post that I left you (#776), when you get a chance?

    Cause, if you was to be honest, I think it squashes your argument about Tebow has to beat on of the top 6 teams in order for you to say he is a good QB in the NFL.
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    Sparky,

    I definitely want your thoughts about my post that I left you (#776), when you get a chance?

    Cause, if you was to be honest, I think it squashes your argument about Tebow has to beat on of the top 6 teams in order for you to say he is a good QB in the NFL.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:54 PM ET #785

    Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:

    As a matter of fact those teams are 64-20 combined, which proves that IF Tebow was to lose to any one of them that he would simply join the majority of other QB's that can't beat these top teams either.


     

    And THAT is my point. If Tebow is as great as everyone is making him out to be...than he's NOT a part of the majoriy. He's a part of the few great ones. If he's a great...than losing to another great will make him average.

    I'm not going by my own philosophy here. I'm saying that if everyone is going to praise Tebow like a God...than he needs to compete with top teams.

    Facing top teams DOES prove something if everyone is hyping him up like he's turned the Broncos INTO a top team. If you're going to worship the guy like he's a great...than you have to expect him to COMPETE with other greats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:

    As a matter of fact those teams are 64-20 combined, which proves that IF Tebow was to lose to any one of them that he would simply join the majority of other QB's that can't beat these top teams either.


     

    And THAT is my point. If Tebow is as great as everyone is making him out to be...than he's NOT a part of the majoriy. He's a part of the few great ones. If he's a great...than losing to another great will make him average.

    I'm not going by my own philosophy here. I'm saying that if everyone is going to praise Tebow like a God...than he needs to compete with top teams.

    Facing top teams DOES prove something if everyone is hyping him up like he's turned the Broncos INTO a top team. If you're going to worship the guy like he's a great...than you have to expect him to COMPETE with other greats.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:56 PM ET #786

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    Feels like I've read the same comments 800 times when i look at this thread.

    I think we all said everything that needs to be said till next week

    So true. But out of 32 pages...I don't remember who I've told what to and I find myself repeating myself just because.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    Feels like I've read the same comments 800 times when i look at this thread.

    I think we all said everything that needs to be said till next week

    So true. But out of 32 pages...I don't remember who I've told what to and I find myself repeating myself just because.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:57 PM ET #787

    Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:

    Sparky,

    I definitely want your thoughts about my post that I left you (#776), when you get a chance?

    Cause, if you was to be honest, I think it squashes your argument about Tebow has to beat on of the top 6 teams in order for you to say he is a good QB in the NFL.

    And I'm going by people calling him great...not good. His 6-1 record has people saying how great he is. And if you call someone great...you can't make exceptions when he faces "other great competition".

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:

    Sparky,

    I definitely want your thoughts about my post that I left you (#776), when you get a chance?

    Cause, if you was to be honest, I think it squashes your argument about Tebow has to beat on of the top 6 teams in order for you to say he is a good QB in the NFL.

    And I'm going by people calling him great...not good. His 6-1 record has people saying how great he is. And if you call someone great...you can't make exceptions when he faces "other great competition".

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 11:01 PM ET #788

    Sparky,

    It will prove if he beats one of them that he is an above average QB, but it will NOT diminish what he has already proved.

    Because a lot of top-tier QB's can't beat the top 6 great teams in the NFL either.

    But according to your logic, Tebow is the exception to this.
    Cause you are saying if he was to lose to one of them, then it makes him an average QB, which is un-fair and ridiculous!

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    Sparky,

    It will prove if he beats one of them that he is an above average QB, but it will NOT diminish what he has already proved.

    Because a lot of top-tier QB's can't beat the top 6 great teams in the NFL either.

    But according to your logic, Tebow is the exception to this.
    Cause you are saying if he was to lose to one of them, then it makes him an average QB, which is un-fair and ridiculous!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 11:04 PM ET #789

    Sparky,

    For the record. I have never called him great. I think though, he has the potential to possibly one day be great.

    And for the record I have NEVER attacked you.

    I actually have had a lot of fun having a debate like this.

    Just wanted to get that out there.
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    Sparky,

    For the record. I have never called him great. I think though, he has the potential to possibly one day be great.

    And for the record I have NEVER attacked you.

    I actually have had a lot of fun having a debate like this.

    Just wanted to get that out there.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 11:07 PM ET #790

    For the record the Denver defense is not very good.  They're playing lights out and over their head for and because of Tebow.  If you can't see this, then you're blind.
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    For the record the Denver defense is not very good.  They're playing lights out and over their head for and because of Tebow.  If you can't see this, then you're blind.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 11:09 PM ET #791

    Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:

    Sparky,

    For the record. I have never called him great. I think though, he has the potential to possibly one day be great.

    And for the record I have NEVER attacked you.

    I actually have had a lot of fun having a debate like this.

    Just wanted to get that out there.

    Not everything I say is meant for everyone. But a majority. You didn't say he was great. You didn't attack me. But out of 32 pages in this thread...it's happened a ton of times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:

    Sparky,

    For the record. I have never called him great. I think though, he has the potential to possibly one day be great.

    And for the record I have NEVER attacked you.

    I actually have had a lot of fun having a debate like this.

    Just wanted to get that out there.

    Not everything I say is meant for everyone. But a majority. You didn't say he was great. You didn't attack me. But out of 32 pages in this thread...it's happened a ton of times.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 11:21 PM ET #792

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

    Say what you want..but I'll ride the Denver train until the wheels fall off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

    Say what you want..but I'll ride the Denver train until the wheels fall off!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 11:47 PM ET #793

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Of course not. But whose to say he was true with that initial opinion? He just came out of the blue and said he flipped sides when it was convenient and started trash talking the guy who everyone else is trash talking. That's like guy moving from New York to Oklahoma and, after the Thunder make the playoffs, he comes out of the blue and says "Oh, I'm a Thunder fan. They've really opened my eyes"...just to fit in.

    And of course he'll be with Denver next season. He's a cash cow right now and they aren't going to get Andrew Luck so he'll be there.

    It seemed to me that he was just saying how he was a doubter but now that he was proven wrong he was coming around.  However at this point I don’t even remember what his screen name is so whatever.

    Tebow’s contract expires in 3 seasons so I’m not sure what leads you to be so certain he is going to still be there in half a decade.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Of course not. But whose to say he was true with that initial opinion? He just came out of the blue and said he flipped sides when it was convenient and started trash talking the guy who everyone else is trash talking. That's like guy moving from New York to Oklahoma and, after the Thunder make the playoffs, he comes out of the blue and says "Oh, I'm a Thunder fan. They've really opened my eyes"...just to fit in.

    And of course he'll be with Denver next season. He's a cash cow right now and they aren't going to get Andrew Luck so he'll be there.

    It seemed to me that he was just saying how he was a doubter but now that he was proven wrong he was coming around.  However at this point I don’t even remember what his screen name is so whatever.

    Tebow’s contract expires in 3 seasons so I’m not sure what leads you to be so certain he is going to still be there in half a decade.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 11:59 PM ET #794

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    It seemed to me that he was just saying how he was a doubter but now that he was proven wrong he was coming around.  However at this point I don’t even remember what his screen name is so whatever.

    Tebow’s contract expires in 3 seasons so I’m not sure what leads you to be so certain he is going to still be there in half a decade.

     

    Simple. If the Broncos win 3 Championships in the next 5 years...that means Tebow was there for at least one of them. And if Tebow wins a Championship...he'll be there for the next half a decade.

    But I'm not allowed to talk about "IF's" anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    It seemed to me that he was just saying how he was a doubter but now that he was proven wrong he was coming around.  However at this point I don’t even remember what his screen name is so whatever.

    Tebow’s contract expires in 3 seasons so I’m not sure what leads you to be so certain he is going to still be there in half a decade.

     

    Simple. If the Broncos win 3 Championships in the next 5 years...that means Tebow was there for at least one of them. And if Tebow wins a Championship...he'll be there for the next half a decade.

    But I'm not allowed to talk about "IF's" anymore.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 12:54 AM ET #795

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Simple. If the Broncos win 3 Championships in the next 5 years...that means Tebow was there for at least one of them. And if Tebow wins a Championship...he'll be there for the next half a decade.

    But I'm not allowed to talk about "IF's" anymore.

    I said “Tebow could win 3 super bowls in the next 5 seasons…” and then you “corrected” my “mistake” by replacing “Tebow” with “Denver.”

    Just because Tebow won 3 super bowls over the next 5 seasons doesn’t necessarily mean all 3 were with Denver.  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Simple. If the Broncos win 3 Championships in the next 5 years...that means Tebow was there for at least one of them. And if Tebow wins a Championship...he'll be there for the next half a decade.

    But I'm not allowed to talk about "IF's" anymore.

    I said “Tebow could win 3 super bowls in the next 5 seasons…” and then you “corrected” my “mistake” by replacing “Tebow” with “Denver.”

    Just because Tebow won 3 super bowls over the next 5 seasons doesn’t necessarily mean all 3 were with Denver.  

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 3:24 AM ET #798

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigpizz:

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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 3:25 AM ET #799

    Too bad Vegas finally wised up and made Denver a favorite.

    It was nice getting one of the hottest teams in the NFL and points week after week.

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    Too bad Vegas finally wised up and made Denver a favorite.

    It was nice getting one of the hottest teams in the NFL and points week after week.

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2011 - 3:32 AM ET #800

    This article sums up Tebow haters perfectly.

    It talks about the excuses they have used so far and the excuses they would continue to use if Tebow ended up winning the super bowl because God knows they couldn’t possibly admit they were wrong.  

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    Week: 6

    Tebow performance: Filling in for the ineffective Kyle Orton in the second half, Tebow nearly rallies Denver to a victory over the Chargers.

    Haterus Tebowis comments: "That was adorable. But if John Fox listens to these stupid Denver fans and starts Tebow in a game next week, he needs to have his head examined."

    Haterus Tebowis population: 150 million

    Week 7

    Tebow performance: After going 4-for-14 for 40 yards to put the Broncos behind 15-0 with 5:23 to play, Tebow leads Denver to an 18-15 overtime victory at Miami.

    Haterus Tebowis comments: "Big deal. He beat the Dolphins. They stink. And if Tebow wasn't so terrible, Denver never would have been trailing in the first place."

    Haterus Tebowis population: 145 million

    Week 8

    Tebow performance: The Broncos lose 45-10 at home to the Lions, as Tebow throws 39 passes, completing just 18.

    Haterus Tebowis comments: "Ha! See? We told you! This guy is nothing but a fullback. And he doesn't even throw well for a fullback."

    Haterus Tebowis population: 150 million

     

    Week 9

    Tebow performance: Running an offense designed more for his unique abilities, Tebow throws for two touchdowns and runs for 113 yards as the Broncos score 31 second-half points to beat Oakland 38-24.

    Haterus Tebowis comments: "Oooh! Now he has wins against the Dolphins and Raiders. Fancy! And it's not like he had anything to do with the win anyway. Willis McGahee ran for 163 yards and two touchdowns. This winning is not going to last."

    Haterus Tebowis population: 145 million


     

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    This article sums up Tebow haters perfectly.

    It talks about the excuses they have used so far and the excuses they would continue to use if Tebow ended up winning the super bowl because God knows they couldn’t possibly admit they were wrong.  

    LINK

     

    Week: 6

    Tebow performance: Filling in for the ineffective Kyle Orton in the second half, Tebow nearly rallies Denver to a victory over the Chargers.

    Haterus Tebowis comments: "That was adorable. But if John Fox listens to these stupid Denver fans and starts Tebow in a game next week, he needs to have his head examined."

    Haterus Tebowis population: 150 million

    Week 7

    Tebow performance: After going 4-for-14 for 40 yards to put the Broncos behind 15-0 with 5:23 to play, Tebow leads Denver to an 18-15 overtime victory at Miami.

    Haterus Tebowis comments: "Big deal. He beat the Dolphins. They stink. And if Tebow wasn't so terrible, Denver never would have been trailing in the first place."

    Haterus Tebowis population: 145 million

    Week 8

    Tebow performance: The Broncos lose 45-10 at home to the Lions, as Tebow throws 39 passes, completing just 18.

    Haterus Tebowis comments: "Ha! See? We told you! This guy is nothing but a fullback. And he doesn't even throw well for a fullback."

    Haterus Tebowis population: 150 million

     

    Week 9

    Tebow performance: Running an offense designed more for his unique abilities, Tebow throws for two touchdowns and runs for 113 yards as the Broncos score 31 second-half points to beat Oakland 38-24.

    Haterus Tebowis comments: "Oooh! Now he has wins against the Dolphins and Raiders. Fancy! And it's not like he had anything to do with the win anyway. Willis McGahee ran for 163 yards and two touchdowns. This winning is not going to last."

    Haterus Tebowis population: 145 million


     

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