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    Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 12:45 AM ET #601

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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 12:49 AM ET #602

    Do you think TD Timmy would mind all the money he has made people through wagering?  (gators and now Broncos)?

    I have thought about this a couple of times as I keep cashing these ML tickets. 
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    Do you think TD Timmy would mind all the money he has made people through wagering?  (gators and now Broncos)?

    I have thought about this a couple of times as I keep cashing these ML tickets. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 12:50 AM ET #603

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    The point I am making is that everyone is deeming Tim Tebow a STAR. If he is a star...than he can lead his team, a team with a good RB and solid defense, to a deep run in the playoffs. He can lead that team to a victory over very good teams. And until I see him do that...I can't give him the credit that just about everyone in the thread and all of the media is giving him.
      How did that 'solid defense' do today? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    The point I am making is that everyone is deeming Tim Tebow a STAR. If he is a star...than he can lead his team, a team with a good RB and solid defense, to a deep run in the playoffs. He can lead that team to a victory over very good teams. And until I see him do that...I can't give him the credit that just about everyone in the thread and all of the media is giving him.
      How did that 'solid defense' do today? 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 12:52 AM ET #605

    yes god forbid we cheer for a decent and good living athlete huh ??? see the cheers Tiger Woods got today when he won ?  now there is someone that has great morals....and the list could go on and on and on .....all anyone has to do is turn the Tv on or look at any print media these days to see EXACTLY who and what we put on pedastals these days.....easy just act like a complete idiot fool and you are rewarded for it....try to act like a decent human being and you get slammed for it....and the sad part is ...now acting a fool is starting at younger and younger ages because that is what is learned and accepted....where is Lawrence Phillips and Michael Irvin and Latrell Sprewell when you need them ....huh guys ???

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    yes god forbid we cheer for a decent and good living athlete huh ??? see the cheers Tiger Woods got today when he won ?  now there is someone that has great morals....and the list could go on and on and on .....all anyone has to do is turn the Tv on or look at any print media these days to see EXACTLY who and what we put on pedastals these days.....easy just act like a complete idiot fool and you are rewarded for it....try to act like a decent human being and you get slammed for it....and the sad part is ...now acting a fool is starting at younger and younger ages because that is what is learned and accepted....where is Lawrence Phillips and Michael Irvin and Latrell Sprewell when you need them ....huh guys ???

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 1:06 AM ET #606

    Good post Joboarder. Look at those fans cheering for TIGER when the guy is a TOTAL douche, lost his gorgeous wife, FAMILY, what 300 MIL, his golf game for 2 years, for what, for fucking some very sleazy skanky ho's

    And you are right, it is starting at an earlier age. Thank God for the Tim Tebows of the world for at least trying to be a positive role model But even when I say that some are offended, WTF? All I can do is try and teach my kids morals, LOVE, and GOD.

    PS Michael Irvin( a real ASS too), just as sleazy as TIGER. His wife SANDY Great lady and still puts up with his BS At least I know she has some God in her life and Emmitt too
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    Good post Joboarder. Look at those fans cheering for TIGER when the guy is a TOTAL douche, lost his gorgeous wife, FAMILY, what 300 MIL, his golf game for 2 years, for what, for fucking some very sleazy skanky ho's

    And you are right, it is starting at an earlier age. Thank God for the Tim Tebows of the world for at least trying to be a positive role model But even when I say that some are offended, WTF? All I can do is try and teach my kids morals, LOVE, and GOD.

    PS Michael Irvin( a real ASS too), just as sleazy as TIGER. His wife SANDY Great lady and still puts up with his BS At least I know she has some God in her life and Emmitt too
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 2:37 AM ET #607

    Sparky, you're the man, but you continue to embarrass yourself.  What does he have to do to gain your respect? 
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    Sparky, you're the man, but you continue to embarrass yourself.  What does he have to do to gain your respect? 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 2:57 AM ET #608

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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 3:17 AM ET #609

    actually sparky is not the man
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 3:17 AM ET #610

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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 7:32 AM ET #612

    Tebow still cashing tickets from Fla to Denver
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:40 AM ET #613

    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:


    So let's say that next week, Tebow and the Broncos loses. I will bet a million monopoly money that this guys Sparky will open up a new thread in the lines of "I Told You So" or like " I Am So Good, I Called Tebow Not Great and I Am Right" or maybe something like "Bow Down to Me, I Was the Only One Who Taught Tebow Sucked"

    I really think that this is what Sparky is trying to accomplish here, SO WHAT!? if TEBOW SUCK!? It Doesn't change the fact that you're nothing but HATER. Oh and by the way, NYG got spanked again!!! NYG ELI G-MEN

    soooo close....they almost beat the Packers  ALMOST

    I can honestly say that BRONCOS IS BETTER THAN THE GIANTS!!

    Than you clearly don't know my past.

    Ask around people who are active in the baseball forum. I give credit where credit is do. I said the Rangers had zero chance to beat the Yanks after Game 1 of the 2010 ALCS. I was wrong, I ate crow, I went out of my way to let everyone know that and I gave the Rangers the credit they deserve.

    Same exact thing with the Tigers this year.

    I don't hide if I'm wrong. I rarely rub it in if I'm right, also. But all this hate will make it hard for me to hold back once I'm proved right. And by "proved right"...I mean lose to good teams.

    So say what you want. I don't care if people are coming at me talking all this shit now because I know, when it's all said and done, that if I'm wrong, I'll make it known. I won't hide. And if I do...I'm not hard to find if you want to follow me around. And if I'm right...I expect you guys to come up with excuses on why he lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:


    So let's say that next week, Tebow and the Broncos loses. I will bet a million monopoly money that this guys Sparky will open up a new thread in the lines of "I Told You So" or like " I Am So Good, I Called Tebow Not Great and I Am Right" or maybe something like "Bow Down to Me, I Was the Only One Who Taught Tebow Sucked"

    I really think that this is what Sparky is trying to accomplish here, SO WHAT!? if TEBOW SUCK!? It Doesn't change the fact that you're nothing but HATER. Oh and by the way, NYG got spanked again!!! NYG ELI G-MEN

    soooo close....they almost beat the Packers  ALMOST

    I can honestly say that BRONCOS IS BETTER THAN THE GIANTS!!

    Than you clearly don't know my past.

    Ask around people who are active in the baseball forum. I give credit where credit is do. I said the Rangers had zero chance to beat the Yanks after Game 1 of the 2010 ALCS. I was wrong, I ate crow, I went out of my way to let everyone know that and I gave the Rangers the credit they deserve.

    Same exact thing with the Tigers this year.

    I don't hide if I'm wrong. I rarely rub it in if I'm right, also. But all this hate will make it hard for me to hold back once I'm proved right. And by "proved right"...I mean lose to good teams.

    So say what you want. I don't care if people are coming at me talking all this shit now because I know, when it's all said and done, that if I'm wrong, I'll make it known. I won't hide. And if I do...I'm not hard to find if you want to follow me around. And if I'm right...I expect you guys to come up with excuses on why he lost.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:44 AM ET #614

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    You are an idiot. The defense allows 32 points to a bad team who is missing their best player and all you want to do is give all the credit to their defense.

    Are you listening to yourself right now?

    Denvers defense has been playing really good football. TODAY, THEY DID NOT.

    Obviously Tim Tebow can't single handedly win a game. Its a team sport.

    Tim Tebow was the main reason the Broncos won today, if you don't see that you are one of the most ignorant people I have ever met.

    And you know why the defense was lit up today against a Vikings team without Adrian Peterson? Because Von Miller was out.

    People seem to not understand that one defensive end can make such a big difference. Look at the Lions without Suh. And look at the Broncos without Von Miller. Ponder didn't set a rookie Vikings record because he's a great QB. He did so because he had less pressure than he normally would.

    With that said...it shows how important early in the season was with the injury of Dumervill and why their defense was getting lit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    You are an idiot. The defense allows 32 points to a bad team who is missing their best player and all you want to do is give all the credit to their defense.

    Are you listening to yourself right now?

    Denvers defense has been playing really good football. TODAY, THEY DID NOT.

    Obviously Tim Tebow can't single handedly win a game. Its a team sport.

    Tim Tebow was the main reason the Broncos won today, if you don't see that you are one of the most ignorant people I have ever met.

    And you know why the defense was lit up today against a Vikings team without Adrian Peterson? Because Von Miller was out.

    People seem to not understand that one defensive end can make such a big difference. Look at the Lions without Suh. And look at the Broncos without Von Miller. Ponder didn't set a rookie Vikings record because he's a great QB. He did so because he had less pressure than he normally would.

    With that said...it shows how important early in the season was with the injury of Dumervill and why their defense was getting lit up.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2011 - 10:46 AM ET #615

    Quote Originally Posted by joboarder:

    This IS the SAME defense that was 1-5 correct ?   someone PLEASE tell me who and what is THE only thing differant in this Denver team now ? is there someone else starting on the defense that has now made this team win 5 straight road games as underdogs ? I mean this is the same starting 11 on the defensive side of the ball that won just ONE game to start correct ?? 

    Maybe I should have quoted this post.

    Read post #615.

    Von Miller makes a big difference. And no...it's not the "same". Early in the season they had injuries to DJ Williams and Elvis Dumervil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joboarder:

    This IS the SAME defense that was 1-5 correct ?   someone PLEASE tell me who and what is THE only thing differant in this Denver team now ? is there someone else starting on the defense that has now made this team win 5 straight road games as underdogs ? I mean this is the same starting 11 on the defensive side of the ball that won just ONE game to start correct ?? 

    Maybe I should have quoted this post.

    Read post #615.

    Von Miller makes a big difference. And no...it's not the "same". Early in the season they had injuries to DJ Williams and Elvis Dumervil.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    Lmao the defense lines up for roughly 65 snaps a game.

    They have 2 big plays, the interception for a TD and the last interception...

    But yeah, the defense won the game

    And the Giants don't win the superbowl in 2007 if Tyree doesn't catch the ball on his helmet.

    It's big plays that make the game. The defense didn't win that game. But without the early TD and the late INT...the Broncos don't win. And without Tebow making some solid plays...the Broncos don't win.

    People need to learn that it's always a TEAM EFFORT.

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    Lmao the defense lines up for roughly 65 snaps a game.

    They have 2 big plays, the interception for a TD and the last interception...

    But yeah, the defense won the game

    And the Giants don't win the superbowl in 2007 if Tyree doesn't catch the ball on his helmet.

    It's big plays that make the game. The defense didn't win that game. But without the early TD and the late INT...the Broncos don't win. And without Tebow making some solid plays...the Broncos don't win.

    People need to learn that it's always a TEAM EFFORT.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetjeff12:

    That sounds like the other games, when the offense did nothing the first 55 minutes of the game and they still won the game

    Tebow gives you the final drive of a football game after making one completion the entire game and he's Godlike.

    The defense gives you the final stand along with a TD and still get ZERO CREDIT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetjeff12:

    That sounds like the other games, when the offense did nothing the first 55 minutes of the game and they still won the game

    Tebow gives you the final drive of a football game after making one completion the entire game and he's Godlike.

    The defense gives you the final stand along with a TD and still get ZERO CREDIT.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:

    still, BRONCOS is better than GIANTS!!!!!!

    What's the point you're trying to make? Aside from making yourself look foolish?

    Can't come up with an accurate assessment of the Broncos and Tebow so you take a shot at my team? Just like a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:

    still, BRONCOS is better than GIANTS!!!!!!

    What's the point you're trying to make? Aside from making yourself look foolish?

    Can't come up with an accurate assessment of the Broncos and Tebow so you take a shot at my team? Just like a child.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    See you keep responding like a smart ass and you think you are right.

    I'm done responding to you. You seem to have the intellect of a 12 year old kid.

    Congrats man, you made yourself look like a huge fool in this thread

    I've noticed how you choose not to respond to his most important posts.

    Why give Tebow all the credit for one drive yet no credit to the defense's 2 important plays.

    I mean...the game against the Jets had about 2 good plays come from Tebow yet he's amazing.

    Doesn't that make you a hypocrite if you're not willing to give credit to the Broncos defense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    See you keep responding like a smart ass and you think you are right.

    I'm done responding to you. You seem to have the intellect of a 12 year old kid.

    Congrats man, you made yourself look like a huge fool in this thread

    I've noticed how you choose not to respond to his most important posts.

    Why give Tebow all the credit for one drive yet no credit to the defense's 2 important plays.

    I mean...the game against the Jets had about 2 good plays come from Tebow yet he's amazing.

    Doesn't that make you a hypocrite if you're not willing to give credit to the Broncos defense?

     
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    TT is not a great passer. TT is a winner and a leader that his team mates will run through a wall for.

    Football is the ultimate team game. If one person does not do his job the play is busted. Give me a guy of moderate ability who brings up the level of the whole team over some uber talented idiot every time.

    The league will adjust to what TT and Den is doing, but look for TT to adjust and learn and grow as well. As to Elway's comments, keep in mind that he's the president of the orginazation that drafted him. Just keeping TT's head on straight IMO.

    The bottom line is that football is entertainment, and watching a guy like TT defy the odds and win is fun. I guess hating on him is fun too; for some.

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    TT is not a great passer. TT is a winner and a leader that his team mates will run through a wall for.

    Football is the ultimate team game. If one person does not do his job the play is busted. Give me a guy of moderate ability who brings up the level of the whole team over some uber talented idiot every time.

    The league will adjust to what TT and Den is doing, but look for TT to adjust and learn and grow as well. As to Elway's comments, keep in mind that he's the president of the orginazation that drafted him. Just keeping TT's head on straight IMO.

    The bottom line is that football is entertainment, and watching a guy like TT defy the odds and win is fun. I guess hating on him is fun too; for some.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    OK Sparky have plenty of DEFENSE for ya.

    Stop in local sports bar to catch final 3 minutes of todays game. Start chatting up at the bar about Tebow and Broncos are tieing game w FG makin 32-32

         "Tebow doing his thing" I comment and this guy I don't know from Adam turns around and starts going off telling me how "TEBOW SUCKS. Can't stand the guy, doesn't know how to throw a football. Will NEVER last in the NFL....etc..... Absolutely hates him and REALLY doesn't like him the way he acts"

       I respond "he is a Christian, this is unreal(as DEN db intercepts pass w1:30 left) and I agree he really really sucks throwing a football now but he'll get better, ELWAY is there to guide him on that one..............etc........It's just TEBOW TIME as best I could put it. Just win baby!!!"

     His response you can never win in NFL without being able to pass. I say look at Griese, Morrall, Dilfer.(using very valid points brought up in this thread)...He gets it but he still HATES Tebow. No chance of convincing him, NO WAY!!

    Point is so many people feel like you and can't stand him and think he will never be a great QB without being a GREAT PASSER. I could tell the other guy sitting with him didn't like Tebow either and did NOT want any part of the conversation.

    Tebow is obviously, VERY VERY polarizing. I really feel the one thing that REALLY makes them dislike Timmy is that he using his successful, on field skill set, as a platform for his off field religious beliefs. His arrogance of not respecting other people, not just NFL fans at that, by pushing his religious agenda, some find inapropriate and not wanting to hear any of his bs after games or whenever else. Personally, it doesn't  bother me but others, I can see why they DON"T care for him and  just adds fuel to the fire that "TEBOW SUCKS"

    Just my 2 cents Covers brotha's, SPARKY is not alone




    I'm not a Tebow "hater". That term is thrown around an awful lot. I'm not hating on him. I'm annoyed at all the undeserved credit he's getting from people.

    Remember when LeBron was in Cleveland? It was LeBron and 4 other guys. This is the same thing only it's Tebow and 51 other guys. The difference is LeBron plays 95% of the game and goes away in the final 5%. Tebow is the opposite. And congrats to him. But that doesn't make you great. That only makes you great in certain situations.

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    OK Sparky have plenty of DEFENSE for ya.

    Stop in local sports bar to catch final 3 minutes of todays game. Start chatting up at the bar about Tebow and Broncos are tieing game w FG makin 32-32

         "Tebow doing his thing" I comment and this guy I don't know from Adam turns around and starts going off telling me how "TEBOW SUCKS. Can't stand the guy, doesn't know how to throw a football. Will NEVER last in the NFL....etc..... Absolutely hates him and REALLY doesn't like him the way he acts"

       I respond "he is a Christian, this is unreal(as DEN db intercepts pass w1:30 left) and I agree he really really sucks throwing a football now but he'll get better, ELWAY is there to guide him on that one..............etc........It's just TEBOW TIME as best I could put it. Just win baby!!!"

     His response you can never win in NFL without being able to pass. I say look at Griese, Morrall, Dilfer.(using very valid points brought up in this thread)...He gets it but he still HATES Tebow. No chance of convincing him, NO WAY!!

    Point is so many people feel like you and can't stand him and think he will never be a great QB without being a GREAT PASSER. I could tell the other guy sitting with him didn't like Tebow either and did NOT want any part of the conversation.

    Tebow is obviously, VERY VERY polarizing. I really feel the one thing that REALLY makes them dislike Timmy is that he using his successful, on field skill set, as a platform for his off field religious beliefs. His arrogance of not respecting other people, not just NFL fans at that, by pushing his religious agenda, some find inapropriate and not wanting to hear any of his bs after games or whenever else. Personally, it doesn't  bother me but others, I can see why they DON"T care for him and  just adds fuel to the fire that "TEBOW SUCKS"

    Just my 2 cents Covers brotha's, SPARKY is not alone




    I'm not a Tebow "hater". That term is thrown around an awful lot. I'm not hating on him. I'm annoyed at all the undeserved credit he's getting from people.

    Remember when LeBron was in Cleveland? It was LeBron and 4 other guys. This is the same thing only it's Tebow and 51 other guys. The difference is LeBron plays 95% of the game and goes away in the final 5%. Tebow is the opposite. And congrats to him. But that doesn't make you great. That only makes you great in certain situations.

     
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    that's right sparky! just like a child! all this time, you were being childish with all the hating, crying "Defense won all of broncos' games since the Jets game' but not even once you laid down a strong proof to back that up! i'm taking a shot of your lowly team because it's a fact! nyg is not even in a downward spiral and i will point that to you week in and week out! DENVER without a QB is better than the NYG lmao!!!
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    that's right sparky! just like a child! all this time, you were being childish with all the hating, crying "Defense won all of broncos' games since the Jets game' but not even once you laid down a strong proof to back that up! i'm taking a shot of your lowly team because it's a fact! nyg is not even in a downward spiral and i will point that to you week in and week out! DENVER without a QB is better than the NYG lmao!!!
     
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    "nyg is in a downward spiral" correction
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:

    that's right sparky! just like a child! all this time, you were being childish with all the hating, crying "Defense won all of broncos' games since the Jets game' but not even once you laid down a strong proof to back that up! i'm taking a shot of your lowly team because it's a fact! nyg is not even in a downward spiral and i will point that to you week in and week out! DENVER without a QB is better than the NYG lmao!!!

    So now you're just spewing shit out of your mouth for a reaction. You're no longer trying to make a point...only trying to get me mad.

    FAIL

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:

    that's right sparky! just like a child! all this time, you were being childish with all the hating, crying "Defense won all of broncos' games since the Jets game' but not even once you laid down a strong proof to back that up! i'm taking a shot of your lowly team because it's a fact! nyg is not even in a downward spiral and i will point that to you week in and week out! DENVER without a QB is better than the NYG lmao!!!

    So now you're just spewing shit out of your mouth for a reaction. You're no longer trying to make a point...only trying to get me mad.

    FAIL

     
     
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    Between Eli right now and Tebow, tell me sparky Who is Better!? be honest!
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