Giants -3 over Jaguars. I don't care how square you think that pick is.There is good reason 2takeit.

Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

  Love these morons who keep saying, "the Giants had value".  No, they did not have value.  If they are favored on the road they do not have value.  They are 3-9, a very bad football team. Doesn't matter if they are playing Jax or Oakland or any other team.  They can't have "value" if they're favorite on road.
Another idiot who doesn't know the meaning of the word value - I would love to hear your definition!

Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

nobody wants to read this thread any more it's a mess.  I don't want to hear any more of this bs.

You might have scared him away.  Like it or not, he provided analysis for me to take or not, which I appreciated, and you're just providing after-the-game horse8*(*, on a pick'em game, spread-wise.

He's probably gone-congrats-now I can read your bull**** analysis on the Vikes, which amounts to 0 analysis.  I could have picked up that analysis on the bathroom floor.

Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

  Love these morons who keep saying, "the Giants had value".  No, they did not have value.  If they are favored on the road they do not have value.  They are 3-9, a very bad football team. Doesn't matter if they are playing Jax or Oakland or any other team.  They can't have "value" if they're favorite on road.
Another idiot who doesn't know the meaning of the word value - I would love to hear your definition!

Quote Originally Posted by BIGfnPOO:

"the Giants had value".  No, they did not have value.  If they are favored on the road they do not have value.  They are 3-9, a very bad football team. Doesn't matter if they are playing Jax or Oakland or any other team.  They can't have "value" if they're favorite on road." ^^^^ this is true, same as miami last night, a decent rd tm laying 7 on mnf is insane. no value...plenty on jets.!   hm tm, cold, mnf etcetc whole world on miami..gd lk,

Quote Originally Posted by bonchie123:

Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

this thread should be bumped every sunday in the fall until the end of time, case study in how NOT to handicap

A) Giants had zero mathematical value as a 3 win team favored on the road.

B)  The game was meaningless anyway and subject to high variance, i.e. a coin flip of a game with a coinflip line.

C) It was a late season game between two teams eliminated from the playoffs with 4 weeks to go, one of the only times in the NFL you need to decipher the motivations of the teams (almost always a no play for me.

D) The motivation angle was read completely wrong. Giants obviously threw the game.

E) Betting with your heart and not your head. If you can't be unbiased with your favorite team, lay off their games

F) putting all your eggs in one basket, playing only one game on an entire card means you haven't handicapped a thing, handicap them all and find your value imo. If you can't find enough games on the card to smooth your variance then perhaps you need a new hobby

Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

G) Ignoring the RLM angle.

I normally hate this angle as a sole basis for your selections but everyone who's handicapped for long enough respects it. The house has professionals with more inside information than the public, so reading the set line is sometimes a good angle (not as good as it used to be but I digress).

H) Insisting you were right when you were clearly wrong. Giants were NOT the right play. The only value in the game was Jax, Jax ML, Jax over and nothing else and the value was tiny anyway and probably didn't cover juice. If you don't acknowledge that you can't get better, it's a learning curve

too bad I can't write like scal tho, beautiful prose and good grammar

Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

G) Ignoring the RLM angle.

I normally hate this angle as a sole basis for your selections but everyone who's handicapped for long enough respects it. The house has professionals with more inside information than the public, so reading the set line is sometimes a good angle (not as good as it used to be but I digress).

H) Insisting you were right when you were clearly wrong. Giants were NOT the right play. The only value in the game was Jax, Jax ML, Jax over and nothing else and the value was tiny anyway and probably didn't cover juice. If you don't acknowledge that you can't get better, it's a learning curve

too bad I can't write like scal tho, beautiful prose and good grammar

Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

nobody wants to read this thread any more it's a mess.  I don't want to hear any more of this bs.

You might have scared him away.  Like it or not, he provided analysis for me to take or not, which I appreciated, and you're just providing after-the-game horse8*(*, on a pick'em game, spread-wise.

He's probably gone-congrats-now I can read your bull**** analysis on the Vikes, which amounts to 0 analysis.  I could have picked up that analysis on the bathroom floor.

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine: