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    Giants -3 over Jaguars. I don't care how square you think that pick is.There is good reason 2takeit.

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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 1:36 AM ET #1

    NFL Record: 5-6

    I posted this in another thread and at the time of post the line was Giants -3 -110. Now today's games are over, the public is looking to the weekend having pounded the Lions, Cowboys and possibly the Niners (and they are down obviously) and are looking to get their money back.

    Their greasy ham hock fingers will be all over this one and it won't be for supporting Jacksonville.

    Giants are a nationally public team so you always pay a premium on their line and the public loves to fade the losers. Jags are big-time losers at the very bottom of the barrel. The Jags/Giants are a bad combination, despite the Giants 6 game losing streak.

    -3 will not last as I already see -3 -120 in some places as the public money slowly creeps in to recoup losses. My bet is in so it's for everyone who wants to risk waiting. -3 even money is still available right now in many places. (This line opened at 2.5 which BEGS for the Giants money and I say unequivocally, "I DO NOT CARE." There are some games in some spots I will not back off of due to 'fishy lines' and public support.)

     

    Here are the rapid-fire points:

    1) With regard to this statement first:

    and now after a truly heartbreaking loss, there nothing left at all. Nothing. Zero hope. 

    That simply is not how the Giants franchise works. The Jets? Yes. Not the Giants. That is why there is a risk betting on the Jets in these spots as I dared to do against Buffalo and they completely laid down.
     
    The Giants do not lay down. They didn't lay down against Seattle. That game was 17-17 and not one but TWO fumbles on one drive fell into SEA hands and then it was 24-17. Giants still drove after that and than that brutal Eli interception came and the game was done.
     
    The Giants run defense is poor to say the least, and when you lose two fumble opportunities and your QB took all your hard work and threw it away, you are going to close up shop on defense. Result? 350+ yards are rushing offense.

    After that game I was REALLY interested in the Giants and then came the Niners. The line was short at +4. In the end, a terrific Beckham catch on the 5 yard line middled the Giants where they basically had to go for it on all 4 downs, screwing bettors who took the 4 if they didn't punch it in. Three of the worst play calls later (3 fades), the Giants fail to cover. Even at that, Eli threw 5 int's and they still almost covered (and actually almost won) which is remarkable.

    But in reality, that game is a huge moose. And I'm not saying that because I posted it. I'm saying it because looking at the Giants ATS (4-7) is actually better than what it is. Much closer to .500 if not over .500 if not for 1 or 2 plays or fumbles that go their way.
     
    So then came the Cowboys and the people that said "There's hope" were ahead of themselves. There's too many injuries on this team to make a run. But a run could have been made. A run. Not a playoff run but a run. Giants really outplayed the Cowboys and it was 2 big plays by Dallas and ZERO pass protection that did them in.

    I know this seems like I'm making excuses  for the Giants but the Giants do one thing FAR BETTER the Jets don't: they tend to fix, or better remedy their previous week's issues.

    So after giving up 350+ to SEA. They give up 150ish and then 110ish to the Niners and Cowboys respectively (and remember how run heavy the Cowboys are). And this is with a very poor run defense.

    After throwing 5 INT's against SF, Eli threw 1 INT and even that was on a tipped pass by his own receiver.

    Rushing game? Improved every game from SEA to SF to Dallas. Not much to speak of but it will be better as Jennings gets to full strength and he has shown flashes as well.

    These past three games are against excellent NFC teams! All three are no pushovers and each can represent the NFC in the Super Bowl! (if of course, SF finds a way to right the ship more).

    The point: The Giants HAVE NOT been laying down in what was a lost season (and really they knew it) because they come to play every Sunday. Because this might be Coughlin's last season. Because they are not the Jets. Because they lost their season at 0-6 last year, could have sleepwalked into a top pick (got a fantastic first rounder anyhow) but ended 7-9. 7-9 meant nothing but 7-9. But they still played out the string by playing hard.

    They play. The noise from the media is just noise.

    2) Look at the Giants this season:

    Look at the past 6 losses:

    @Philly L

    @Dallas L

    Colts L

    @Seattle L

    Niners L

    Cowboys L

    What a stretch! I'll bet that's the toughest six game stretch of any team in the NFL this season!

    I know they went 0-6. But damn, that's like a firing squad of excellent teams.

    And who did they beat up on before that?

    Atlanta Washington Houston - Bad and below average teams

    Who beat them the first two games? Detroit and Arizona - Two teams fighting for a first round bye in the NFC. This is a horrendous schedule for the Giants and they still have fought to win especially these past two weeks, especially as they are injury ravaged.

    And remember, this is in a season where they completely overhauled their offense (which takes time and results in guaranteed losses during the growing pains). That 4-7 ATS record looks a bit better now no?

    And on the other side of the coin, what do the Jags have to play for? Is your money on a team that really shows it doesn't quit (it loses but it doesn't quit) or the ....Jags. Why should the Jags show up here with 1 win?

    Giants lose this game? They are at rock rock rock bottom.

    I'm sorry. Ya gotta go Giants here. I don't care if 1 million bettors are on them and only one is on the Jags at Giants -3. And you are right to ask now. The public was more interested in the Thanksgiving Day games and when they look to the weekend they will drive this line up more.

    I personally do not fear the way books set lines when it comes to the Giants and Knicks. I play them as I see them and of course -2.5 is suspect. But remember, this is a 3-8 team on the road. How much are they going to lay? Cowboys on a neutral field laid 6 remember? Cowboys crushed them (and yes Romo's injury was juggling that line but still). Good for me bad for them. I locked in at -3.

    That's my opinion. I'm in at -3 and I almost certainly see it getting to -3.5 and even as you said, 4 possibly.

    Giants -3 for me to take it down. FINALLY they get a break in the schedule after the most brutal stretch in all of football.

    The Pick: Giants -3 over Jaguars

    If you are reading this on Saturday, I'd be shocked if the -3 -110 is still there.

    No reason to tail me until I get over .500 but I will keep posting to do so.

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    NFL Record: 5-6

    I posted this in another thread and at the time of post the line was Giants -3 -110. Now today's games are over, the public is looking to the weekend having pounded the Lions, Cowboys and possibly the Niners (and they are down obviously) and are looking to get their money back.

    Their greasy ham hock fingers will be all over this one and it won't be for supporting Jacksonville.

    Giants are a nationally public team so you always pay a premium on their line and the public loves to fade the losers. Jags are big-time losers at the very bottom of the barrel. The Jags/Giants are a bad combination, despite the Giants 6 game losing streak.

    -3 will not last as I already see -3 -120 in some places as the public money slowly creeps in to recoup losses. My bet is in so it's for everyone who wants to risk waiting. -3 even money is still available right now in many places. (This line opened at 2.5 which BEGS for the Giants money and I say unequivocally, "I DO NOT CARE." There are some games in some spots I will not back off of due to 'fishy lines' and public support.)

     

    Here are the rapid-fire points:

    1) With regard to this statement first:

    and now after a truly heartbreaking loss, there nothing left at all. Nothing. Zero hope. 

    That simply is not how the Giants franchise works. The Jets? Yes. Not the Giants. That is why there is a risk betting on the Jets in these spots as I dared to do against Buffalo and they completely laid down.
     
    The Giants do not lay down. They didn't lay down against Seattle. That game was 17-17 and not one but TWO fumbles on one drive fell into SEA hands and then it was 24-17. Giants still drove after that and than that brutal Eli interception came and the game was done.
     
    The Giants run defense is poor to say the least, and when you lose two fumble opportunities and your QB took all your hard work and threw it away, you are going to close up shop on defense. Result? 350+ yards are rushing offense.

    After that game I was REALLY interested in the Giants and then came the Niners. The line was short at +4. In the end, a terrific Beckham catch on the 5 yard line middled the Giants where they basically had to go for it on all 4 downs, screwing bettors who took the 4 if they didn't punch it in. Three of the worst play calls later (3 fades), the Giants fail to cover. Even at that, Eli threw 5 int's and they still almost covered (and actually almost won) which is remarkable.

    But in reality, that game is a huge moose. And I'm not saying that because I posted it. I'm saying it because looking at the Giants ATS (4-7) is actually better than what it is. Much closer to .500 if not over .500 if not for 1 or 2 plays or fumbles that go their way.
     
    So then came the Cowboys and the people that said "There's hope" were ahead of themselves. There's too many injuries on this team to make a run. But a run could have been made. A run. Not a playoff run but a run. Giants really outplayed the Cowboys and it was 2 big plays by Dallas and ZERO pass protection that did them in.

    I know this seems like I'm making excuses  for the Giants but the Giants do one thing FAR BETTER the Jets don't: they tend to fix, or better remedy their previous week's issues.

    So after giving up 350+ to SEA. They give up 150ish and then 110ish to the Niners and Cowboys respectively (and remember how run heavy the Cowboys are). And this is with a very poor run defense.

    After throwing 5 INT's against SF, Eli threw 1 INT and even that was on a tipped pass by his own receiver.

    Rushing game? Improved every game from SEA to SF to Dallas. Not much to speak of but it will be better as Jennings gets to full strength and he has shown flashes as well.

    These past three games are against excellent NFC teams! All three are no pushovers and each can represent the NFC in the Super Bowl! (if of course, SF finds a way to right the ship more).

    The point: The Giants HAVE NOT been laying down in what was a lost season (and really they knew it) because they come to play every Sunday. Because this might be Coughlin's last season. Because they are not the Jets. Because they lost their season at 0-6 last year, could have sleepwalked into a top pick (got a fantastic first rounder anyhow) but ended 7-9. 7-9 meant nothing but 7-9. But they still played out the string by playing hard.

    They play. The noise from the media is just noise.

    2) Look at the Giants this season:

    Look at the past 6 losses:

    @Philly L

    @Dallas L

    Colts L

    @Seattle L

    Niners L

    Cowboys L

    What a stretch! I'll bet that's the toughest six game stretch of any team in the NFL this season!

    I know they went 0-6. But damn, that's like a firing squad of excellent teams.

    And who did they beat up on before that?

    Atlanta Washington Houston - Bad and below average teams

    Who beat them the first two games? Detroit and Arizona - Two teams fighting for a first round bye in the NFC. This is a horrendous schedule for the Giants and they still have fought to win especially these past two weeks, especially as they are injury ravaged.

    And remember, this is in a season where they completely overhauled their offense (which takes time and results in guaranteed losses during the growing pains). That 4-7 ATS record looks a bit better now no?

    And on the other side of the coin, what do the Jags have to play for? Is your money on a team that really shows it doesn't quit (it loses but it doesn't quit) or the ....Jags. Why should the Jags show up here with 1 win?

    Giants lose this game? They are at rock rock rock bottom.

    I'm sorry. Ya gotta go Giants here. I don't care if 1 million bettors are on them and only one is on the Jags at Giants -3. And you are right to ask now. The public was more interested in the Thanksgiving Day games and when they look to the weekend they will drive this line up more.

    I personally do not fear the way books set lines when it comes to the Giants and Knicks. I play them as I see them and of course -2.5 is suspect. But remember, this is a 3-8 team on the road. How much are they going to lay? Cowboys on a neutral field laid 6 remember? Cowboys crushed them (and yes Romo's injury was juggling that line but still). Good for me bad for them. I locked in at -3.

    That's my opinion. I'm in at -3 and I almost certainly see it getting to -3.5 and even as you said, 4 possibly.

    Giants -3 for me to take it down. FINALLY they get a break in the schedule after the most brutal stretch in all of football.

    The Pick: Giants -3 over Jaguars

    If you are reading this on Saturday, I'd be shocked if the -3 -110 is still there.

    No reason to tail me until I get over .500 but I will keep posting to do so.

     
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    GL Scal. Giants stink but there's absolutely not reason why they shouldn't beat the jags by a FG plus 
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    Scal....leaning Jacksonville......Motivation might be a facto...r Gmen travelling on a holiday weekend......after a brutal 3 game stretch.....will wait to see any more info.....BOL...
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    First of all, thanks for another great read while drinking my morning coffee.

    You made some very good points about the Giants, but let's take a look at the Jaguars: Jaguars played the TOUGHEST (#1) schedule in the league at 0.572. Of their 11 opponents, 5 teams are currently having a playoff spot and 9 out of these 11 (Indy twice) are still in the playoff hunt within one or two wins. Despite that tough schedule, they built a defense that was very solid. A German mathematical power rating I use for capping that focuses on the efficiency on every single down, has the Jaguars defense ranked at #14. Their biggest weakness is their defensive INT rate at 1.3%. The league's average is at 2.5%, so you could expect regression to the mean statistically.

    Another point: This is a home game for Jacksonville, and they still want to give their fans something back. In their four home games this season, they lost badly to Indy (like the Giants), had a decent shot at beating Pittsburgh, won against Cleveland and OUTGAINED the Dolphins by 51 yards. They put 377 yards on the Fins top-3 defense. Their pass rush is very good, they are averaging 3 sacks per game (#3 in the league).

    I watched their game against the Cowboys at Wembley. The only reason the Jaguars didn't cover was because they showed a tackling performance I've never seen this season. It was so bad. Please go back and watch the Cowboys scoring plays. For example the Jags missed FOUR tackles on Dez Bryant on his 35 yard TD. 30 yards were after the catch. That game could have come down to the wire with a better tackling performance.

    There is no single reason to take the Giants on the road IMO. I think this is the best remaining spot for the Jaguars to get their second win of the season.

    Just my input and lean on the game.

    P.S. why do you keep wasting your time responding to these senseless commenty day in day out ? I don't get it. Just ignore them and you have more time talking about football.. for example with me after my post.




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    First of all, thanks for another great read while drinking my morning coffee.

    You made some very good points about the Giants, but let's take a look at the Jaguars: Jaguars played the TOUGHEST (#1) schedule in the league at 0.572. Of their 11 opponents, 5 teams are currently having a playoff spot and 9 out of these 11 (Indy twice) are still in the playoff hunt within one or two wins. Despite that tough schedule, they built a defense that was very solid. A German mathematical power rating I use for capping that focuses on the efficiency on every single down, has the Jaguars defense ranked at #14. Their biggest weakness is their defensive INT rate at 1.3%. The league's average is at 2.5%, so you could expect regression to the mean statistically.

    Another point: This is a home game for Jacksonville, and they still want to give their fans something back. In their four home games this season, they lost badly to Indy (like the Giants), had a decent shot at beating Pittsburgh, won against Cleveland and OUTGAINED the Dolphins by 51 yards. They put 377 yards on the Fins top-3 defense. Their pass rush is very good, they are averaging 3 sacks per game (#3 in the league).

    I watched their game against the Cowboys at Wembley. The only reason the Jaguars didn't cover was because they showed a tackling performance I've never seen this season. It was so bad. Please go back and watch the Cowboys scoring plays. For example the Jags missed FOUR tackles on Dez Bryant on his 35 yard TD. 30 yards were after the catch. That game could have come down to the wire with a better tackling performance.

    There is no single reason to take the Giants on the road IMO. I think this is the best remaining spot for the Jaguars to get their second win of the season.

    Just my input and lean on the game.

    P.S. why do you keep wasting your time responding to these senseless commenty day in day out ? I don't get it. Just ignore them and you have more time talking about football.. for example with me after my post.




     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 4:45 AM ET #5

    I got NYG at -2.5. 

    Scalamoney on NYG   Heff on JAX.  (suuma)

     

    I'm so confused.    NYG -2.5, any higher??? No PLAY

    QUESTION?  Why don't people eat stuffing all the time?  A bologna sandwich with stuffing, would make the bologna better. imo. Maybe we have a stuffing shortage. ha

    GL SCAL   

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    I got NYG at -2.5. 

    Scalamoney on NYG   Heff on JAX.  (suuma)

     

    I'm so confused.    NYG -2.5, any higher??? No PLAY

    QUESTION?  Why don't people eat stuffing all the time?  A bologna sandwich with stuffing, would make the bologna better. imo. Maybe we have a stuffing shortage. ha

    GL SCAL   

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 7:12 AM ET #6

    You are a beauty!!!
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 7:49 AM ET #7

    Gl scal. As you intimited at the beginning, this line is a trap. Only a 3 point favorite on the road for a much better NFL team against the worst? Give me the garbage team at home getting only 3 against a public darling and also ml jax. Sorry buddy but I can't fall into the trap.
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 9:08 AM ET #8

    Jets and men both done.
    Next year, new coaches and fresh starts.
    Jags win, they are only team with motivation.
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    Jets and men both done.
    Next year, new coaches and fresh starts.
    Jags win, they are only team with motivation.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 9:46 AM ET #9

    Motivation is so much of the equation.
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:17 AM ET #10

    ^the giants are not so much better
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:18 AM ET #11

    Giants play up and play down to there competion as much as any team in the league, Ive been a fan of the Gmen for 15 years and nothings guaranteed with them, they could beat the best and lose to the worst. Just my 2 cents, BOL!
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    Giants play up and play down to there competion as much as any team in the league, Ive been a fan of the Gmen for 15 years and nothings guaranteed with them, they could beat the best and lose to the worst. Just my 2 cents, BOL!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:41 AM ET #12

      

     do you really have to write a book on the Giants -3 beating the worst team in the league 
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter10:

      

     do you really have to write a book on the Giants -3 beating the worst team in the league 


    The Giants are not playing the Jets.
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     do you really have to write a book on the Giants -3 beating the worst team in the league 


    The Giants are not playing the Jets.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 1:29 PM ET #14

    ^or the raiders
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:



    The Giants are not playing the Jets.

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    The Giants are not playing the Jets.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:



    The Giants are not playing the Jets.

    Whatever but come on to go on and on , yea the Giants should win but to write 9000 words on the subject , is anyone actually reading all this crap 






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    The Giants are not playing the Jets.

    Whatever but come on to go on and on , yea the Giants should win but to write 9000 words on the subject , is anyone actually reading all this crap 






     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 2:21 PM ET #17

    Good stuff, Scal. 

    I don't like this card at all Sunday, so I might take a look into tailing you here. As I said in the other thread, I was leaning Jax, but I don't think I can back them now. As long as the Giants "get up" for this game, they should slaughter Jax. 

    GL man. 
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    Good stuff, Scal. 

    I don't like this card at all Sunday, so I might take a look into tailing you here. As I said in the other thread, I was leaning Jax, but I don't think I can back them now. As long as the Giants "get up" for this game, they should slaughter Jax. 

    GL man. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter10:


    Whatever but come on to go on and on , yea the Giants should win but to write 9000 words on the subject , is anyone actually reading all this crap 







    Info is info, dude. 

    What's the point of these forums if information and insight is frowned upon? Take away good info, and you have a few hundred HACKS all posting their plays with imaginary money which to me is pointless. 

    Just my 2 cents. GL on your plays this weekend. 
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    Whatever but come on to go on and on , yea the Giants should win but to write 9000 words on the subject , is anyone actually reading all this crap 







    Info is info, dude. 

    What's the point of these forums if information and insight is frowned upon? Take away good info, and you have a few hundred HACKS all posting their plays with imaginary money which to me is pointless. 

    Just my 2 cents. GL on your plays this weekend. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smarterthanyou:

    ^or the raiders


    i'd take the raiders over the jets any day of the week on a neutral field in kansas
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    i'd take the raiders over the jets any day of the week on a neutral field in kansas
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by glyde69:


    Info is info, dude. 

    What's the point of these forums if information and insight is frowned upon? Take away good info, and you have a few hundred HACKS all posting their plays with imaginary money which to me is pointless. 

    Just my 2 cents. GL on your plays this weekend. 




    EXACTLY.

    the immature punks don't understand the value of discussing information...lists of picks mean diddly squat imo...

    if you're in this game for the long haul you better be able to make your own picks based on information rather that clutching on to tailing random people and blame them when they lose..
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    Info is info, dude. 

    What's the point of these forums if information and insight is frowned upon? Take away good info, and you have a few hundred HACKS all posting their plays with imaginary money which to me is pointless. 

    Just my 2 cents. GL on your plays this weekend. 




    EXACTLY.

    the immature punks don't understand the value of discussing information...lists of picks mean diddly squat imo...

    if you're in this game for the long haul you better be able to make your own picks based on information rather that clutching on to tailing random people and blame them when they lose..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:





    EXACTLY.

    the immature punks don't understand the value of discussing information...lists of picks mean diddly squat imo...

    if you're in this game for the long haul you better be able to make your own picks based on information rather that clutching on to tailing random people and blame them when they lose..

    Yeah but I can sum up his novel of a post in a sentence.

    Giants have a bad record but are resilient and play hard every Sunday, they can beat this garbage team, Giants -3.


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    EXACTLY.

    the immature punks don't understand the value of discussing information...lists of picks mean diddly squat imo...

    if you're in this game for the long haul you better be able to make your own picks based on information rather that clutching on to tailing random people and blame them when they lose..

    Yeah but I can sum up his novel of a post in a sentence.

    Giants have a bad record but are resilient and play hard every Sunday, they can beat this garbage team, Giants -3.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nflcapperletsgo:

    Gl scal. As you intimited at the beginning, this line is a trap. Only a 3 point favorite on the road for a much better NFL team against the worst? Give me the garbage team at home getting only 3 against a public darling and also ml jax. Sorry buddy but I can't fall into the trap.

    If you're on the Jags, NYG is a lock.   Scal wins this one with ease
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    Gl scal. As you intimited at the beginning, this line is a trap. Only a 3 point favorite on the road for a much better NFL team against the worst? Give me the garbage team at home getting only 3 against a public darling and also ml jax. Sorry buddy but I can't fall into the trap.

    If you're on the Jags, NYG is a lock.   Scal wins this one with ease
     
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    Like the play myself. I've never know the Giants to be a "lay down" team. NY by a TD plus
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Like the play myself. I've never know the Giants to be a "lay down" team. NY by a TD plus
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    If you're on the Jags, NYG is a lock.   Scal wins this one with ease

    Bro:  you happy?  You follow me around like a person.  Put your money where your mouth is.  Bet NYG and post it.  Don't be a punk and just talk smack.  Be a man and post your pick.  
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    If you're on the Jags, NYG is a lock.   Scal wins this one with ease

    Bro:  you happy?  You follow me around like a person.  Put your money where your mouth is.  Bet NYG and post it.  Don't be a punk and just talk smack.  Be a man and post your pick.  
     
     
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    Painful game to go on either team.  Just going to stay away from the stench.
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