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    Gavinnick
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 9:26 AM ET #1

    Is not QB this Denver team is average at best

    Why O why do people think Denver is gonna win just because of manning ?


    Seattle has a better team , that is what will win the game

    Not Manning
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Is not QB this Denver team is average at best

    Why O why do people think Denver is gonna win just because of manning ?


    Seattle has a better team , that is what will win the game

    Not Manning
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 9:27 AM ET #2

    #1 reason Seattle wins= they are a better team

    Plain as day
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    #1 reason Seattle wins= they are a better team

    Plain as day
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 10:10 AM ET #3

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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 10:31 AM ET #4

    Based on your superbowl posts last year I'm pretty worried for Seattle.
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    Based on your superbowl posts last year I'm pretty worried for Seattle.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 10:35 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by slowimpreza:

    Based on your superbowl posts last year I'm pretty worried for Seattle.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowimpreza:

    Based on your superbowl posts last year I'm pretty worried for Seattle.
     
     
    Crusher13
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 10:38 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by slowimpreza:

    Based on your superbowl posts last year I'm pretty worried for Seattle.


    Pretty sure this poster was all over BRONCOS last year

    Just the wrong year huh.......Bitter because you couldn't get 15-1 this time 
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowimpreza:

    Based on your superbowl posts last year I'm pretty worried for Seattle.


    Pretty sure this poster was all over BRONCOS last year

    Just the wrong year huh.......Bitter because you couldn't get 15-1 this time 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 10:38 AM ET #7

    Yes hawks win SB, they are great ones
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    Yes hawks win SB, they are great ones
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 11:03 AM ET #8

    this is some crack logic and research you're bringing to the table here. you've really dug deep with "Seattle is the better team" and 'without this amazing player playing the most important position on the field, his team wouldn't be as good'. looking forward to more groundbreaking insights in the week to come!
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    this is some crack logic and research you're bringing to the table here. you've really dug deep with "Seattle is the better team" and 'without this amazing player playing the most important position on the field, his team wouldn't be as good'. looking forward to more groundbreaking insights in the week to come!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 11:48 AM ET #9

    Gavinnick's point is a valid one IMO. Football is a team game and so many suckers out there will pick Denver because of 'turkey neck' only and his record setting td numbers this year.

    My only fear is that I don't know which team the refs are favoring.
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    Gavinnick's point is a valid one IMO. Football is a team game and so many suckers out there will pick Denver because of 'turkey neck' only and his record setting td numbers this year.

    My only fear is that I don't know which team the refs are favoring.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 12:45 PM ET #10

    his point is moronic. what if New England didn't have Brady? or New Orleans didn't have Brees? or GB without Rodgers. of course they're not as good without them. but the DO have Manning so his point is frivolous. meanwhile, Denver D has been playing lights out for the past month. mull that over...
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    his point is moronic. what if New England didn't have Brady? or New Orleans didn't have Brees? or GB without Rodgers. of course they're not as good without them. but the DO have Manning so his point is frivolous. meanwhile, Denver D has been playing lights out for the past month. mull that over...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 1:35 PM ET #11

    Peyton Manning had a terrible Colts team for years, that usually made the playoffs and won a Super Bowl.

    That's why he looks good with an average team.

    That said, again, wait for the weather report.  His arm strength is not what it used to be (wind), everyone knows he's not a cold weather qb.
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    Peyton Manning had a terrible Colts team for years, that usually made the playoffs and won a Super Bowl.

    That's why he looks good with an average team.

    That said, again, wait for the weather report.  His arm strength is not what it used to be (wind), everyone knows he's not a cold weather qb.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 1:44 PM ET #12

    i think they'll rig it for manning
    that's my angle, i'm sticking to it
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    i think they'll rig it for manning
    that's my angle, i'm sticking to it
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 2:04 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by slowimpreza:

    Based on your superbowl posts last year I'm pretty worried for Seattle.

     

    If my memory serves me well I believe Gavinikk was on Balty.  How can anyone forget thread after thread backin Balty's sack

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowimpreza:

    Based on your superbowl posts last year I'm pretty worried for Seattle.

     

    If my memory serves me well I believe Gavinikk was on Balty.  How can anyone forget thread after thread backin Balty's sack

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 2:20 PM ET #14

    Why would they rig it for Manning?  If he loses, he has a reason to come back next year. Next year Manning breaks Farve's career touchdown record, Farve's career yardage record AND wins the superbowl. Much better party than winning this year.  The fix is against Manning this year.
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    Why would they rig it for Manning?  If he loses, he has a reason to come back next year. Next year Manning breaks Farve's career touchdown record, Farve's career yardage record AND wins the superbowl. Much better party than winning this year.  The fix is against Manning this year.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 2:23 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by chargerfan10:

     

    If my memory serves me well I believe Gavinikk was on Balty.  How can anyone forget thread after thread backin Balty's sack


    Yeah, after blowing his wad on DEN/Manning SB Win
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    Quote Originally Posted by chargerfan10:

     

    If my memory serves me well I believe Gavinikk was on Balty.  How can anyone forget thread after thread backin Balty's sack


    Yeah, after blowing his wad on DEN/Manning SB Win
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 2:44 PM ET #16

    manning has 4 receivers any team would love to have 
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    manning has 4 receivers any team would love to have 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 2:46 PM ET #17

    All i know is Manning is going to win by 1 so Vegas can collect the best of both worlds.  

    Game will be fixed as usual.  One more observation to share

    1.  SF high profile win = loss
    2.  NE high profile win against the colts = lose

    seattle has yet won a SB for a long time, they will have a good chance of winning it this time.  Take hawks 1hf too.  
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    All i know is Manning is going to win by 1 so Vegas can collect the best of both worlds.  

    Game will be fixed as usual.  One more observation to share

    1.  SF high profile win = loss
    2.  NE high profile win against the colts = lose

    seattle has yet won a SB for a long time, they will have a good chance of winning it this time.  Take hawks 1hf too.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 2:55 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Peyton Manning had a terrible Colts team for years, that usually made the playoffs and won a Super Bowl.

    That's why he looks good with an average team.

    That said, again, wait for the weather report.  His arm strength is not what it used to be (wind), everyone knows he's not a cold weather qb.

    what good is arm strength if timing and accuracy is not part of the equation? i would take timing and accuracy over an arm that can throw the egg shape ball @60mph.  hell look at jamarcus russell the fuker could throw the ball 40+yrds while sitting on his buttocks and look how well he did in the nfl lol

    cold weather qb? i think both qb will struggle. never lived in colorado but im sure its pretty damm cold up there however i did live in seattle and while its pretty cold its nothing compare to what the temperature might be come sb sunday.  ive seen snow from time to time on the broncos field but i cant recall ever seeing snow on the seahawks field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Peyton Manning had a terrible Colts team for years, that usually made the playoffs and won a Super Bowl.

    That's why he looks good with an average team.

    That said, again, wait for the weather report.  His arm strength is not what it used to be (wind), everyone knows he's not a cold weather qb.

    what good is arm strength if timing and accuracy is not part of the equation? i would take timing and accuracy over an arm that can throw the egg shape ball @60mph.  hell look at jamarcus russell the fuker could throw the ball 40+yrds while sitting on his buttocks and look how well he did in the nfl lol

    cold weather qb? i think both qb will struggle. never lived in colorado but im sure its pretty damm cold up there however i did live in seattle and while its pretty cold its nothing compare to what the temperature might be come sb sunday.  ive seen snow from time to time on the broncos field but i cant recall ever seeing snow on the seahawks field.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2014 - 3:04 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Peyton Manning had a terrible Colts team for years, that usually made the playoffs and won a Super Bowl.

    That's why he looks good with an average team.

    That said, again, wait for the weather report.  His arm strength is not what it used to be (wind), everyone knows he's not a cold weather qb.

     

    Terrible team for years? The same teams that had Harrison, Wayne, Clark, E.James and 3 Pro Bowl Linemen almost every year? They were not all that great defensively(still had couple stars). Didn't they make the playoffs every years as well? Calling those teams terrible is just absurd.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Peyton Manning had a terrible Colts team for years, that usually made the playoffs and won a Super Bowl.

    That's why he looks good with an average team.

    That said, again, wait for the weather report.  His arm strength is not what it used to be (wind), everyone knows he's not a cold weather qb.

     

    Terrible team for years? The same teams that had Harrison, Wayne, Clark, E.James and 3 Pro Bowl Linemen almost every year? They were not all that great defensively(still had couple stars). Didn't they make the playoffs every years as well? Calling those teams terrible is just absurd.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pai_Gow_Player:


    what good is arm strength if timing and accuracy is not part of the equation? i would take timing and accuracy over an arm that can throw the egg shape ball @60mph.  hell look at jamarcus russell the fuker could throw the ball 40+yrds while sitting on his buttocks and look how well he did in the nfl lol

    cold weather qb? i think both qb will struggle. never lived in colorado but im sure its pretty damm cold up there however i did live in seattle and while its pretty cold its nothing compare to what the temperature might be come sb sunday.  ive seen snow from time to time on the broncos field but i cant recall ever seeing snow on the seahawks field.

     

    You are correct. However. timing and accuracy often go hand in hand and I think his timing will be disturbed in this game(pressure plus the physical plays by the Hawks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pai_Gow_Player:


    what good is arm strength if timing and accuracy is not part of the equation? i would take timing and accuracy over an arm that can throw the egg shape ball @60mph.  hell look at jamarcus russell the fuker could throw the ball 40+yrds while sitting on his buttocks and look how well he did in the nfl lol

    cold weather qb? i think both qb will struggle. never lived in colorado but im sure its pretty damm cold up there however i did live in seattle and while its pretty cold its nothing compare to what the temperature might be come sb sunday.  ive seen snow from time to time on the broncos field but i cant recall ever seeing snow on the seahawks field.

     

    You are correct. However. timing and accuracy often go hand in hand and I think his timing will be disturbed in this game(pressure plus the physical plays by the Hawks).

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

     

    Terrible team for years? The same teams that had Harrison, Wayne, Clark, E.James and 3 Pro Bowl Linemen almost every year? They were not all that great defensively(still had couple stars). Didn't they make the playoffs every years as well? Calling those teams terrible is just absurd.

     



    Their offensive line was below average.

    You do remember when they were bringing receivers off the street, and winning games?  Everybody was injured, and miraculously they still put up points.

    Denver is a better team, with a better defense, than Manning ever had.  That's why he's doing as well as ever in Denver.

    jmo fellas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

     

    Terrible team for years? The same teams that had Harrison, Wayne, Clark, E.James and 3 Pro Bowl Linemen almost every year? They were not all that great defensively(still had couple stars). Didn't they make the playoffs every years as well? Calling those teams terrible is just absurd.

     



    Their offensive line was below average.

    You do remember when they were bringing receivers off the street, and winning games?  Everybody was injured, and miraculously they still put up points.

    Denver is a better team, with a better defense, than Manning ever had.  That's why he's doing as well as ever in Denver.

    jmo fellas.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:



    Their offensive line was below average.

    You do remember when they were bringing receivers off the street, and winning games?  Everybody was injured, and miraculously they still put up points.

    Denver is a better team, with a better defense, than Manning ever had.  That's why he's doing as well as ever in Denver.

    jmo fellas.

     

    We just have to agree to disagree then. ANY QB would tell you, not matter how great he is, needs more than a good O-line for him to put up the stats that Manning did, especially an immobile one.

    I am not arguing Den is not a good team but to call those colts team terrible just doesn't fit the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:



    Their offensive line was below average.

    You do remember when they were bringing receivers off the street, and winning games?  Everybody was injured, and miraculously they still put up points.

    Denver is a better team, with a better defense, than Manning ever had.  That's why he's doing as well as ever in Denver.

    jmo fellas.

     

    We just have to agree to disagree then. ANY QB would tell you, not matter how great he is, needs more than a good O-line for him to put up the stats that Manning did, especially an immobile one.

    I am not arguing Den is not a good team but to call those colts team terrible just doesn't fit the bill.

     
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    You are correct. However. timing and accuracy often go hand in hand and I think his timing will be disturbed in this game(pressure plus the physical plays by the Hawks).


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    You are correct. However. timing and accuracy often go hand in hand and I think his timing will be disturbed in this game(pressure plus the physical plays by the Hawks).


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    woops, this is the ONE  and only thing that can BEAT DENVER
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    8 straight years the winner of the ats in the national championship has been opposite in the Super Bowl.

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    den -2. 

    2014.     Aub - dog
    2013.     ala - fav.     Balt 
    2012      Ala - fav.     Nyg dog 
    2011.     Aub - dog   Gb fav
    2010.     Ala - fav      No dog
    2009.     Flo - fav      Ari dog
    2008.     Lsu - fav.    Nyg dog
    2007.     Flo.- dog.    Indy fav
    2006.     Tex - dog    Pitt. Fav
    2005.     USC - fav   Phil dog
    2004.      Lsu - dog   Car dog
    2003.      Osu - dog   Tb dog
    2002.      Mia - dog    Ne dog
    2001.      Oak  - dog  Balt dog
    2000.      Fsu - fav     Stl push
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    8 straight years the winner of the ats in the national championship has been opposite in the Super Bowl.

    Super Bowl 
    den -2. 

    2014.     Aub - dog
    2013.     ala - fav.     Balt 
    2012      Ala - fav.     Nyg dog 
    2011.     Aub - dog   Gb fav
    2010.     Ala - fav      No dog
    2009.     Flo - fav      Ari dog
    2008.     Lsu - fav.    Nyg dog
    2007.     Flo.- dog.    Indy fav
    2006.     Tex - dog    Pitt. Fav
    2005.     USC - fav   Phil dog
    2004.      Lsu - dog   Car dog
    2003.      Osu - dog   Tb dog
    2002.      Mia - dog    Ne dog
    2001.      Oak  - dog  Balt dog
    2000.      Fsu - fav     Stl push
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