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    All of this Brady love. Great QB! Who are your top 7 best current QBs?

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    mbialowas
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 8:45 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:



     Your interested in playoffs , lets look at Brady last 5 years post seasons play,  he has a QB rating of 51.1 which is 2 points lower than  this years Tim Tebows pre season QBR 

    Brady's also has  throw 19 int's in his last 14 post season games 

    So not 1 not 2 not 3  but 5 years of horrible post season play by Brady , and  everyone wants to ignore it .

    His 51.1 QBR over the last 5 years,  was that the Receivers fault ?    or is that  just this years excuse 

    Brady played in 2 super bowls with the Giants and balls he threw 20 yd's in the air or longer he was 0-13 with 1 int 

    This season so far Brady is 1-23 with 2 ints on balls throw 20 yds or longer .

    This guy is not only not the best of all time , he is below average in the present. 

    Brady QBR at present is 52.7 and that consistent with his playoff QBR over the last 5 years.

    These are all Hall of Fame Stats from the great Tom Brady he owns them , now what are the excuses ?



    like I said, I don't care about stats, its all about wins. That is how I rate, if you don't like it that's fine by me 
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     Your interested in playoffs , lets look at Brady last 5 years post seasons play,  he has a QB rating of 51.1 which is 2 points lower than  this years Tim Tebows pre season QBR 

    Brady's also has  throw 19 int's in his last 14 post season games 

    So not 1 not 2 not 3  but 5 years of horrible post season play by Brady , and  everyone wants to ignore it .

    His 51.1 QBR over the last 5 years,  was that the Receivers fault ?    or is that  just this years excuse 

    Brady played in 2 super bowls with the Giants and balls he threw 20 yd's in the air or longer he was 0-13 with 1 int 

    This season so far Brady is 1-23 with 2 ints on balls throw 20 yds or longer .

    This guy is not only not the best of all time , he is below average in the present. 

    Brady QBR at present is 52.7 and that consistent with his playoff QBR over the last 5 years.

    These are all Hall of Fame Stats from the great Tom Brady he owns them , now what are the excuses ?



    like I said, I don't care about stats, its all about wins. That is how I rate, if you don't like it that's fine by me 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 8:50 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:


    you think that's funny , but  i would take Foles over Brady in a heartbeat , put him on the Patriots  they probably win some playoff games . 
    Brady is the all time leader in playoff wins
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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:


    you think that's funny , but  i would take Foles over Brady in a heartbeat , put him on the Patriots  they probably win some playoff games . 
    Brady is the all time leader in playoff wins
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 9:01 PM ET #53

    But he hasn't won , and his poor play was the reason they went two year without winning a playoff game despite having home field getting outplayed by Sanchez and Flaco  

    , The last year they went to the super bowl he played liked a stiff in the conference championship they won despite him
    here are Brady's stats from that game 

     CP/ATTYDSTDINT
    Tom Brady22/3623902
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    But he hasn't won , and his poor play was the reason they went two year without winning a playoff game despite having home field getting outplayed by Sanchez and Flaco  

    , The last year they went to the super bowl he played liked a stiff in the conference championship they won despite him
    here are Brady's stats from that game 

     CP/ATTYDSTDINT
    Tom Brady22/3623902
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 9:17 PM ET #54

    You people haven't even MENTIONED my man CAM! I mean damn! I'm not saying top-7 or even top-10... but top15? Gotta be. Dalton over Cam? No chance. No chance in hell.
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    You people haven't even MENTIONED my man CAM! I mean damn! I'm not saying top-7 or even top-10... but top15? Gotta be. Dalton over Cam? No chance. No chance in hell.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 10:04 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:

    Brady is the all time leader in playoff wins


    Everyone always  wants to get simplistic with the Rings and the Wins cause they can't win the argument.when the facts are presented. 

    Spartacus 10 was on the money calling Brady just a manager just like the media labeled Trent Dilfer as a manager , The best Brady has ever been in a post season game is average 

    The only QBs Brady has outplayed in the last 10 years in post season play has been Tim Tebow and Matt Schaub in two blow out wins , other than that he's lost the QB battle to everyone 

    The Patriots super bowl wins and any early success was because of their defense, weak division ,and coaching . the quarter back position could have be filled by a number of faces, as we saw with a below average Matt Cassel .

    The Media has built up this guy and put him in the hall of fame 3 years into his career ,

    But id like someone to tell me   how can an NFL QB that can't complete a pass that he throws 20 yds in the air or longer be in the hall of fame ? 

    Good thing for Brady they don't go by stats like baseball, don't think  a 51.1 QBR with 19 int's in last 14 post season game , would qualify , 

    The hall of fame is  a big joke anyway controlled by the owners and the media even Lesley Visser in the hall of fame Brady's plaque deserves to be right aside of hers .


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    Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:

    Brady is the all time leader in playoff wins


    Everyone always  wants to get simplistic with the Rings and the Wins cause they can't win the argument.when the facts are presented. 

    Spartacus 10 was on the money calling Brady just a manager just like the media labeled Trent Dilfer as a manager , The best Brady has ever been in a post season game is average 

    The only QBs Brady has outplayed in the last 10 years in post season play has been Tim Tebow and Matt Schaub in two blow out wins , other than that he's lost the QB battle to everyone 

    The Patriots super bowl wins and any early success was because of their defense, weak division ,and coaching . the quarter back position could have be filled by a number of faces, as we saw with a below average Matt Cassel .

    The Media has built up this guy and put him in the hall of fame 3 years into his career ,

    But id like someone to tell me   how can an NFL QB that can't complete a pass that he throws 20 yds in the air or longer be in the hall of fame ? 

    Good thing for Brady they don't go by stats like baseball, don't think  a 51.1 QBR with 19 int's in last 14 post season game , would qualify , 

    The hall of fame is  a big joke anyway controlled by the owners and the media even Lesley Visser in the hall of fame Brady's plaque deserves to be right aside of hers .


     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 11:26 PM ET #56

    ^ lesley visser in the hof

     

    almost as bad as condoleeza rice being on the bcs committee this year

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    ^ lesley visser in the hof

     

    almost as bad as condoleeza rice being on the bcs committee this year

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 11:30 PM ET #57

    Brady 3 rings > manning 1 > Aaron 1 ring
    There is your 1 2 & 3 ...
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    Brady 3 rings > manning 1 > Aaron 1 ring
    There is your 1 2 & 3 ...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 11:38 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:


    you think that's funny , but  i would take Foles over Brady in a heartbeat , put him on the Patriots  they probably win some playoff games . 
    You are 1 dumb fucck. You can never be taken seriously after a comment as stupid as that. You should not be allowed to watch football ever again. Call Direct tv and please cancel if you have the NFL package. I will send you the money for the cancelation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:


    you think that's funny , but  i would take Foles over Brady in a heartbeat , put him on the Patriots  they probably win some playoff games . 
    You are 1 dumb fucck. You can never be taken seriously after a comment as stupid as that. You should not be allowed to watch football ever again. Call Direct tv and please cancel if you have the NFL package. I will send you the money for the cancelation.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 12:24 AM ET #59

    Teblow has more playoff victories in Denver than Peyton does in Denver
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    Teblow has more playoff victories in Denver than Peyton does in Denver
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 1:24 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by chaloots:

    You are 1 dumb fucck. You can never be taken seriously after a comment as stupid as that. You should not be allowed to watch football ever again. Call Direct tv and please cancel if you have the NFL package. I will send you the money for the cancelation.


    This is the same  to what was said to me in Boston  when i said it was time for Bledsoe to be benched in favor of Brady , cause at the time Bledsoe was today's Brady .

     Until you get a chance to play you can't ' prove anything , basically its a stinky league ,and the rules favor the offense , receivers are always open , all these college QB are having instant success , look at Buffalo's  QB from the practice squad that no one has ever heard of he  almost won a game last week .

    yes  i do like Foles  unlike Brady he can actually throw a ball 20 yds down field  and complete a pass , and if he got a chance to play on a good team like the patriots in that Stink fest of a division ,the Patriots would  Win games and also have a better chance to win in the post season .

    Is it so ridiculous to think that a QB who has a 51.1 QBR and has thrown 19 INT's in last 14 post season games can't be replaced with an upgrade ??? 

    Stop the little kid hero worshiping and look at his  post season stats they speak for themselves .

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    You are 1 dumb fucck. You can never be taken seriously after a comment as stupid as that. You should not be allowed to watch football ever again. Call Direct tv and please cancel if you have the NFL package. I will send you the money for the cancelation.


    This is the same  to what was said to me in Boston  when i said it was time for Bledsoe to be benched in favor of Brady , cause at the time Bledsoe was today's Brady .

     Until you get a chance to play you can't ' prove anything , basically its a stinky league ,and the rules favor the offense , receivers are always open , all these college QB are having instant success , look at Buffalo's  QB from the practice squad that no one has ever heard of he  almost won a game last week .

    yes  i do like Foles  unlike Brady he can actually throw a ball 20 yds down field  and complete a pass , and if he got a chance to play on a good team like the patriots in that Stink fest of a division ,the Patriots would  Win games and also have a better chance to win in the post season .

    Is it so ridiculous to think that a QB who has a 51.1 QBR and has thrown 19 INT's in last 14 post season games can't be replaced with an upgrade ??? 

    Stop the little kid hero worshiping and look at his  post season stats they speak for themselves .

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 1:31 AM ET #61

    [Quote: Originally Posted by speak2truth]

    ^ lesley visser in the hof

     

    almost as bad as condoleeza rice being on the bcs committee this year

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     Worthless stupid Boring interviews , too many face lifts ,
    All  the NFL  women sideline reporters  today , are all head and shoulders above Visser 
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by speak2truth]

    ^ lesley visser in the hof

     

    almost as bad as condoleeza rice being on the bcs committee this year

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     Worthless stupid Boring interviews , too many face lifts ,
    All  the NFL  women sideline reporters  today , are all head and shoulders above Visser 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 10:32 AM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by chaloots:

    I was going to try and debate with you on wht Brady is one of the best all time but when you some stupid shhit like what I highlighted I can't take you seriously. What I highlighted is exactly what Manning is doing this year but nobody says a word about him. Throwing against the Ravens and Raiders in blowout games,throwing probably about 10 td'sshorter than 8 yards. Saying Brady gets outplayed in the playoffs is idiotic. Manning is the big game choker,niot Brady. Sunday was a perfect example of why Brady is the best. He doesn't lose with the ball in his hands at the end of games when there is a realistic chance to win it,Manning does. There are plenty of examples but you clearly are just a Brady and Pats hater so it wouldn't pay for me to go into it. Instead of hating.learn to appreciate greatness.


    Manning has more fourth quarter comebacks than any quarterback in history. You need to get your facts straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaloots:

    I was going to try and debate with you on wht Brady is one of the best all time but when you some stupid shhit like what I highlighted I can't take you seriously. What I highlighted is exactly what Manning is doing this year but nobody says a word about him. Throwing against the Ravens and Raiders in blowout games,throwing probably about 10 td'sshorter than 8 yards. Saying Brady gets outplayed in the playoffs is idiotic. Manning is the big game choker,niot Brady. Sunday was a perfect example of why Brady is the best. He doesn't lose with the ball in his hands at the end of games when there is a realistic chance to win it,Manning does. There are plenty of examples but you clearly are just a Brady and Pats hater so it wouldn't pay for me to go into it. Instead of hating.learn to appreciate greatness.


    Manning has more fourth quarter comebacks than any quarterback in history. You need to get your facts straight.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 12:39 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by atlas1234:



    Manning has more fourth quarter comebacks than any quarterback in history. You need to get your facts straight.


    Manning has more fourth quarter comebacks than any qb in history (in the regular season). I still remembered the Saints vs Colts SB when he threw that stupid int to Sharper to seal the win for the Saints. Dude is a choker comes playoff time. Even last year when he throw that int in ot and lost to the Ravens. LoL @ the greatest of all time? You mad bro!
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    Manning has more fourth quarter comebacks than any quarterback in history. You need to get your facts straight.


    Manning has more fourth quarter comebacks than any qb in history (in the regular season). I still remembered the Saints vs Colts SB when he threw that stupid int to Sharper to seal the win for the Saints. Dude is a choker comes playoff time. Even last year when he throw that int in ot and lost to the Ravens. LoL @ the greatest of all time? You mad bro!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 2:20 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by chaloots:

    Superbowl vs Panthers. Game mangaer? Comical,you are just a Brady and Patriots hater. He led them on final drives in 2 of the superbowl wins. The reason I didn't address anything you said is beacause I stopped reading after your idiotic first sentence. Like others that know football have said,Brady has done more with less around him then any other QB in history. For you not to see how good he really is you either don't know football or just hate for the sake of hating. I am guessing it is both. Now go ramble all you want,I will not respond to your drivel.

     

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    So, once again, you're argument lacks any type of structure or substance. You're trying to discredit my point by pointing out 1 of the 40+ games. Brady was a game manager, and his stats weren't glorious during the SB wins. It's a fact, go look for yourself and do some actual research, and you'll see within 2 minutes that Brady's worst statistical seasons were 2001, 2003, 2004. Is this coincidence? Brady was expected to be nothing more than a game manager, and that's exactly what he was.

    The fact is that no one wants to do the work, they want it done for them, and that's why they rely on ESPN to tell them what they need to know about sports. I can tell who actually does research and looks into this stuff. I'm passionate about sports, so I like doing it on my spare time.

    If we measure by post season success, you do realize when he went to the playoffs without a top ranked defense he's not only won nothing, but he's looked pretty bad doing it.

    The fact they make the playoffs every year is a gimme considering they have 3 of the worst teams in the last 10 years all in their division.

    Please, every Brady lover neglects a key point/question I point out every time this comes up. Explain to me how MATT CASSEL, a QB who hadn't started a game since HIGH SCHOOL steps in off the bench out of nowhere, and finishes with a 11-5 record?

    Why don't people understand what a system QB is. Look at Baylor for example. The greatest player to every dawn the QB position goes to the NFL, Florence steps in and their offense becomes statistically better. Florence leaves and Petty steps in, only to have the offense become statistically better again. We see this happen in college all the time, because the QB's don't have to be great, they need to be able to throw a basic pass and know when to get rid of the ball.

    Check Down Tom is the best nickname I've ever heard someone give Brady. Mysticrichs' stats regarding his 20+ yard throws in the playoffs is a phenomenal one. I mean is there any QB in the history of the game that racked up more YAC than Brady? I honestly don't think so.

    Brady reminds me of the guy playing Madden on Xbox who needs to constantly throw short slants because it's the only way they can beat you. Just disgraceful.
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    Superbowl vs Panthers. Game mangaer? Comical,you are just a Brady and Patriots hater. He led them on final drives in 2 of the superbowl wins. The reason I didn't address anything you said is beacause I stopped reading after your idiotic first sentence. Like others that know football have said,Brady has done more with less around him then any other QB in history. For you not to see how good he really is you either don't know football or just hate for the sake of hating. I am guessing it is both. Now go ramble all you want,I will not respond to your drivel.

     

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    So, once again, you're argument lacks any type of structure or substance. You're trying to discredit my point by pointing out 1 of the 40+ games. Brady was a game manager, and his stats weren't glorious during the SB wins. It's a fact, go look for yourself and do some actual research, and you'll see within 2 minutes that Brady's worst statistical seasons were 2001, 2003, 2004. Is this coincidence? Brady was expected to be nothing more than a game manager, and that's exactly what he was.

    The fact is that no one wants to do the work, they want it done for them, and that's why they rely on ESPN to tell them what they need to know about sports. I can tell who actually does research and looks into this stuff. I'm passionate about sports, so I like doing it on my spare time.

    If we measure by post season success, you do realize when he went to the playoffs without a top ranked defense he's not only won nothing, but he's looked pretty bad doing it.

    The fact they make the playoffs every year is a gimme considering they have 3 of the worst teams in the last 10 years all in their division.

    Please, every Brady lover neglects a key point/question I point out every time this comes up. Explain to me how MATT CASSEL, a QB who hadn't started a game since HIGH SCHOOL steps in off the bench out of nowhere, and finishes with a 11-5 record?

    Why don't people understand what a system QB is. Look at Baylor for example. The greatest player to every dawn the QB position goes to the NFL, Florence steps in and their offense becomes statistically better. Florence leaves and Petty steps in, only to have the offense become statistically better again. We see this happen in college all the time, because the QB's don't have to be great, they need to be able to throw a basic pass and know when to get rid of the ball.

    Check Down Tom is the best nickname I've ever heard someone give Brady. Mysticrichs' stats regarding his 20+ yard throws in the playoffs is a phenomenal one. I mean is there any QB in the history of the game that racked up more YAC than Brady? I honestly don't think so.

    Brady reminds me of the guy playing Madden on Xbox who needs to constantly throw short slants because it's the only way they can beat you. Just disgraceful.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 2:22 PM ET #65

    If Manning isn't #1 on your list of QB's, simply stop reading, turn off your computer, and never speak of the game of football ever again.


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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 2:26 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus10:

    If Manning isn't #1 on your list of QB's, simply stop reading, turn off your computer, and never speak of the game of football ever again.


    Manning is #1 on my list of playoff choke artists
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    If Manning isn't #1 on your list of QB's, simply stop reading, turn off your computer, and never speak of the game of football ever again.


    Manning is #1 on my list of playoff choke artists
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 3:00 PM ET #67

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    Manning has more fourth quarter comebacks than any quarterback in history. You need to get your facts straight.
    Manning lost 2 home palyoff games against the Chargers with (Billy Volek) at qb with the ball 2 times in the last 5 minutes and couldn't bring his team down for the win. They were a 10 point fav in game,also couldn't lead his team to victory at home against Pitt in playoffs after Bettis fumbled and gave them a gift,once again a big fav in the game. Dude has made the playoffs 11 times and has been outed in first round 7 times. Coinsidence? no,he is a good stats and regular season qb who can't get it done when it matters most. Superbowl vs Saints,down 7 late in game and he throws a pick 6,last year at home against the Ravens,his team gets him 2 special team td's and he still can't win the game. He needed 1 first down to put the game away twice and couldn't,then had the ball in overtime and did nothing with it. To compare Manning to Brady when it counts is fuccking silly,Brady outshines him everythime. Manning played every home game in a dome with hall of fame wr's and a very good running back and didn't win shhit besides a superbowl that he would have lost if anyone other than Rex Grossman was the qb fior the Bears. Give me Brady with the ball at the end of the game over any other qb in the history of the game. The moment is never too big for Brady...
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    Manning has more fourth quarter comebacks than any quarterback in history. You need to get your facts straight.
    Manning lost 2 home palyoff games against the Chargers with (Billy Volek) at qb with the ball 2 times in the last 5 minutes and couldn't bring his team down for the win. They were a 10 point fav in game,also couldn't lead his team to victory at home against Pitt in playoffs after Bettis fumbled and gave them a gift,once again a big fav in the game. Dude has made the playoffs 11 times and has been outed in first round 7 times. Coinsidence? no,he is a good stats and regular season qb who can't get it done when it matters most. Superbowl vs Saints,down 7 late in game and he throws a pick 6,last year at home against the Ravens,his team gets him 2 special team td's and he still can't win the game. He needed 1 first down to put the game away twice and couldn't,then had the ball in overtime and did nothing with it. To compare Manning to Brady when it counts is fuccking silly,Brady outshines him everythime. Manning played every home game in a dome with hall of fame wr's and a very good running back and didn't win shhit besides a superbowl that he would have lost if anyone other than Rex Grossman was the qb fior the Bears. Give me Brady with the ball at the end of the game over any other qb in the history of the game. The moment is never too big for Brady...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 3:04 PM ET #68

    To Atlas...A 4th qtr comeback does not mean the ball was in his hands late in the game. He could get a 4th qtr comeback win with 10 minutes left in the game,just like a game winning RBI in baseball could come in the 3rd inning,that doesn't make you clutch. So now go get your facts straight. Manning has never put up equal stats from his regular season to his post season. Yet again this year he will build stats in blowouts and choke in playoffs as usual. His old owner just took a shot at him,I think it was shittty to do that but there was a lot of truth in what he said.

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    To Atlas...A 4th qtr comeback does not mean the ball was in his hands late in the game. He could get a 4th qtr comeback win with 10 minutes left in the game,just like a game winning RBI in baseball could come in the 3rd inning,that doesn't make you clutch. So now go get your facts straight. Manning has never put up equal stats from his regular season to his post season. Yet again this year he will build stats in blowouts and choke in playoffs as usual. His old owner just took a shot at him,I think it was shittty to do that but there was a lot of truth in what he said.

     
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    Just can't believe how many people here along with the media praised Manning this and that. The guy is a choke artist in the playoff. Sure Brady do not throw that many balls more than 20 yards . But if you are a good QB, shouldn't you get what the D give you? Brady receivers changed all the time. If he had won that sb in 2007 and be 19-0. 
    This would not even be a discussion. He was literally two Welkers drop away from being GOAT. So stop it with sucking up to Peyton and give  Brady where his credit is due. 
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    Just can't believe how many people here along with the media praised Manning this and that. The guy is a choke artist in the playoff. Sure Brady do not throw that many balls more than 20 yards . But if you are a good QB, shouldn't you get what the D give you? Brady receivers changed all the time. If he had won that sb in 2007 and be 19-0. 
    This would not even be a discussion. He was literally two Welkers drop away from being GOAT. So stop it with sucking up to Peyton and give  Brady where his credit is due. 
     
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    ^ actually, all the credit goes to hoodie
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaloots:

    To Atlas...A 4th qtr comeback does not mean the ball was in his hands late in the game. He could get a 4th qtr comeback win with 10 minutes left in the game,just like a game winning RBI in baseball could come in the 3rd inning,that doesn't make you clutch. So now go get your facts straight. Manning has never put up equal stats from his regular season to his post season. Yet again this year he will build stats in blowouts and choke in playoffs as usual. His old owner just took a shot at him,I think it was shittty to do that but there was a lot of truth in what he said.


    Do you hear yourself? This confirms young fellow that you are a bona fide clueless idiot and not worth acknowledging hereafter. 
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    To Atlas...A 4th qtr comeback does not mean the ball was in his hands late in the game. He could get a 4th qtr comeback win with 10 minutes left in the game,just like a game winning RBI in baseball could come in the 3rd inning,that doesn't make you clutch. So now go get your facts straight. Manning has never put up equal stats from his regular season to his post season. Yet again this year he will build stats in blowouts and choke in playoffs as usual. His old owner just took a shot at him,I think it was shittty to do that but there was a lot of truth in what he said.


    Do you hear yourself? This confirms young fellow that you are a bona fide clueless idiot and not worth acknowledging hereafter. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlas1234:


    Do you hear yourself? This confirms young fellow that you are a bona fide clueless idiot and not worth acknowledging hereafter. 
    Read the rest of what I wrote you dumbfukk. A 4th qtr comeback does not mean that the qb won the game very late or on the last drive. It only means his team was trailing entering the 4th qtr. At the end of the 3rd qtr a qb could be behind by 1 point and on the first play of the 4th qtr give his team a lead that stands up and that is considered a 4th qtr comeback. Just like a game winning hit in baseball can come in the 3rd inning. Those are overrated stats but I wouldn't expect clueless cuntts like yourself to understand that. Do your family a favor and go drink a gallon of anti freeze,anyone who told you that suicide is not an option lied to you
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    Do you hear yourself? This confirms young fellow that you are a bona fide clueless idiot and not worth acknowledging hereafter. 
    Read the rest of what I wrote you dumbfukk. A 4th qtr comeback does not mean that the qb won the game very late or on the last drive. It only means his team was trailing entering the 4th qtr. At the end of the 3rd qtr a qb could be behind by 1 point and on the first play of the 4th qtr give his team a lead that stands up and that is considered a 4th qtr comeback. Just like a game winning hit in baseball can come in the 3rd inning. Those are overrated stats but I wouldn't expect clueless cuntts like yourself to understand that. Do your family a favor and go drink a gallon of anti freeze,anyone who told you that suicide is not an option lied to you
     
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    ^ actually, 6 ounces is sufficient
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    1. Whitehurst they never give him a chance and when he did have a chance he won a playoff game one of those patiently waiting QB's that won't get a chance to shine...what a shame...
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    Those guys that love stats and Peyton manning do belong in same category cuz Peyton is MR. stat guy. Dont get me wrong, Peyton is a great Qb, but to put him above Tom Terrific is simply ludicrous. He took a team with D ranked almost last in ypg to the superbowl 2011 and lost at the last minute to a Giants team that dominated the Packers for 4 quarters. How did Aaron Rogers played against the giants in that game? And brady stat for 20 yards or more, shiet, how did he do when he had moss in 07? Did he not light team up and put up record for tds? Comon Man... Brady > Manning > Rodgers till proven otherwise
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    Those guys that love stats and Peyton manning do belong in same category cuz Peyton is MR. stat guy. Dont get me wrong, Peyton is a great Qb, but to put him above Tom Terrific is simply ludicrous. He took a team with D ranked almost last in ypg to the superbowl 2011 and lost at the last minute to a Giants team that dominated the Packers for 4 quarters. How did Aaron Rogers played against the giants in that game? And brady stat for 20 yards or more, shiet, how did he do when he had moss in 07? Did he not light team up and put up record for tds? Comon Man... Brady > Manning > Rodgers till proven otherwise
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