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    10 worst defensive tms in the NFL

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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 11:40 PM ET #26

    I'm a lot more bullish on Denver's defense than most people.

    They REALLY missed Dumervil last season. Not just his 17 sacks but his constant pressure, the guy is just relentless. Apparently he is in the best shape of his career and I think he's going to give a major boost. They also have Von Miller who has looked excellent in practice and should help as well. Another intriguing rookie worth watching is Rahim Moore at safety. This guy was a projected 1st round pick for a couple of years but slipped due to a so-so combine to the 2nd round. Brian Dawkins should be a great mentor and with his skillset he could be a big time steal. Ayers is back in his natural DE spot in the 4-3 and reports are he's looked good. I haven't even mentioned DJ Williams yet who is one of the most underrated players in football and should thrive playing the weakside spot in the 4-3. The secondary of Bailey, Goodman, Moore, and Dawkins isn't elite but it is a hell of a lot better than a lot of units in the league.

    The Broncos have switched back to the 4-3 with John Fox who is a defense before offense guy as opposed to McDaniels who was all offense.

    I think this will one of the most improved units in the league.
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    I'm a lot more bullish on Denver's defense than most people.

    They REALLY missed Dumervil last season. Not just his 17 sacks but his constant pressure, the guy is just relentless. Apparently he is in the best shape of his career and I think he's going to give a major boost. They also have Von Miller who has looked excellent in practice and should help as well. Another intriguing rookie worth watching is Rahim Moore at safety. This guy was a projected 1st round pick for a couple of years but slipped due to a so-so combine to the 2nd round. Brian Dawkins should be a great mentor and with his skillset he could be a big time steal. Ayers is back in his natural DE spot in the 4-3 and reports are he's looked good. I haven't even mentioned DJ Williams yet who is one of the most underrated players in football and should thrive playing the weakside spot in the 4-3. The secondary of Bailey, Goodman, Moore, and Dawkins isn't elite but it is a hell of a lot better than a lot of units in the league.

    The Broncos have switched back to the 4-3 with John Fox who is a defense before offense guy as opposed to McDaniels who was all offense.

    I think this will one of the most improved units in the league.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 11:43 PM ET #27

    Lks like we got 4 strong contenders. Ari - Jax - Sea - and Denver.
    These 4 are pretty obvious. We still have 6 spots left. Lets try to fill em in. Its time to start sifting through the injurys and depth charts to see if we can find some tms that have unexpectedly come between a rock and a hard spot.
    The toughest question that applies to this thread would b to try and foresee the surprise tms that will get into the bottom .
    Let me throw a few out there for instance....
    ....is it possible that Chi-SD-Jets-Balty or Pitt slip away on defense. I know its tuff to invision a big drop from these tms but Ill go out on a limb and suggest Chi has the biggest chance to fade defensively. Due mostly to the possibility that thier offense is likely to put them in a lot of tuff spots.
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    Lks like we got 4 strong contenders. Ari - Jax - Sea - and Denver.
    These 4 are pretty obvious. We still have 6 spots left. Lets try to fill em in. Its time to start sifting through the injurys and depth charts to see if we can find some tms that have unexpectedly come between a rock and a hard spot.
    The toughest question that applies to this thread would b to try and foresee the surprise tms that will get into the bottom .
    Let me throw a few out there for instance....
    ....is it possible that Chi-SD-Jets-Balty or Pitt slip away on defense. I know its tuff to invision a big drop from these tms but Ill go out on a limb and suggest Chi has the biggest chance to fade defensively. Due mostly to the possibility that thier offense is likely to put them in a lot of tuff spots.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2011 - 12:52 AM ET #28

    pitt will still be competitive and may even win the division, but they are definitely slipping on both sides of the ball which frankly will be fun to watch. I still think cincinnati cannot be overlooked in this discussion. I definitely see them in last place and alot of turmoil early in the season.
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    pitt will still be competitive and may even win the division, but they are definitely slipping on both sides of the ball which frankly will be fun to watch. I still think cincinnati cannot be overlooked in this discussion. I definitely see them in last place and alot of turmoil early in the season.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2011 - 1:00 AM ET #29

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    You're counting on Shawn Merriman to play a full season?  (cue maniacal laughter).  Bwahaha.  The Bills just cut their 2009 first rounder (11th overall) lost Donte Whitner (you'll say he wasn't that good - but his replacement will be ... worse...).  The Bills are a mediocre team on BOTH sides of the ball.  But you can keep telling us how they'll be very good this year.  Based on your betting history - if you tell me the Bills are going to be good - I'll take the under on their season W/L total.






    your lack of intellegence about the bills is really funny. first of all they have gotten rid of all the old trash from the dick jauron era that was drafted for the cover 2. we are 3-4 now and are HUGE on the D-line with dareus gonna draw double teams leaving merriman to punish the passer like they did against the bears getting 9 FUCKING SACKS!! why don't you go read up on the bills on all the sports websites and they are calling the bills a sleeper team this year but you're to ignorant to to see anything. i don't know why i got your dick all hard having to respond to everything i write but thats what happens when you're a no life no box getting loser like yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by _keyser_soze_:


    You're counting on Shawn Merriman to play a full season?  (cue maniacal laughter).  Bwahaha.  The Bills just cut their 2009 first rounder (11th overall) lost Donte Whitner (you'll say he wasn't that good - but his replacement will be ... worse...).  The Bills are a mediocre team on BOTH sides of the ball.  But you can keep telling us how they'll be very good this year.  Based on your betting history - if you tell me the Bills are going to be good - I'll take the under on their season W/L total.






    your lack of intellegence about the bills is really funny. first of all they have gotten rid of all the old trash from the dick jauron era that was drafted for the cover 2. we are 3-4 now and are HUGE on the D-line with dareus gonna draw double teams leaving merriman to punish the passer like they did against the bears getting 9 FUCKING SACKS!! why don't you go read up on the bills on all the sports websites and they are calling the bills a sleeper team this year but you're to ignorant to to see anything. i don't know why i got your dick all hard having to respond to everything i write but thats what happens when you're a no life no box getting loser like yourself
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2011 - 1:21 AM ET #30

    Looks like we add Cincy to the list. We now have 5 probable solid tms. Have to acknowledge some gd points Andarmac99 made about Denver
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2011 - 1:30 AM ET #31

    ....however I just read they took a couple hits to two starting DTs.
    Someone mentioned Pitt could b slipping. I think they could b due for a downturn as well. Not a very in depth analysis I know. But I am merely trying to stir up some brainstorms and thicken the stew.
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    ....however I just read they took a couple hits to two starting DTs.
    Someone mentioned Pitt could b slipping. I think they could b due for a downturn as well. Not a very in depth analysis I know. But I am merely trying to stir up some brainstorms and thicken the stew.
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