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Posted: #76
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Quote Originally Posted by pham1792:

why would a serious bettor need to win in every sport. basketball offers much more data than a 16 game football season
Some people would prefer NFL because teams are trying to win each and every game.  In the NBA, most teams give subpar effort in at least 10 to 20 games a year.


110% . When NFL season is done.. it's done betting for me.. Maybe some March madness but that's it. can't imagine MLB through 162 game season.. 7 month break..
 
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A serious bettor knows that if he is only winning a few seasons here or there, that he will only be avoiding the inevitable.  

The ODDS.

Ever hear about people playing "hit and run" at the casino?  Win $50, then leave?  Yeah, it will work for while, then it will FAIL.  Point is, in order to REALLY know if you can be successful, you need to GRIND it through ALL of the possible deviations of the math involved in the randomness of the game!

How hard is that for you people to understand?

Goodness, you guys are so ridiculously mathematically challenged.  No wonder you guys CONTINUE to lose.

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I'm actually having the best start ever going 57% in 125 games. I'm only betting on the top 2-4 teams with best ATS % (overall ATS% vs most recent).
 
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Quote Originally Posted by pham1792:


I'm actually having the best start ever going 57% in 125 games. I'm only betting on the top 2-4 teams with best ATS % (overall ATS% vs most recent).

Awesome man!  Keep up the good work!  Just remember good money management will make you successful.  Things will eventually go the other way, what will separate you from a degen, is your ability to properly weather out the losing streaks.  
 
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Unless your name is Brackson, I would imagine it to be very difficult to make a living as a sports bettor with only a $3,000 starting bankroll.

But stranger things have happened!  So good luck on your quest.
 
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Awesome man!  Keep up the good work!  Just remember good money management will make you successful.  Things will eventually go the other way, what will separate you from a degen, is your ability to properly weather out the losing streaks.  

Yeah I always ask myself what am I going to do if I lose this bet. Because I can't ride the weaker teams I just don't bet on them
 
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Bets

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Mem under and noh 1kea

Bankroll: 4900

Hmmm
 
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Quote Originally Posted by tbomb777:

Man do you even know what you could do with that in the markets? Sad man even with 3k if you read up on options you could easily turn it into 20-25k in couple months..... best trading environment we will ever see next 18-24 months with the unraveling of QE in the states...... 


that being said, if you are going to bet bc it seems like you're set on it take VT +4 and Auburn +2 tomorrow....

GL man...

LOL ok..... 

You could do the same in sports betting. Thanks for discovering america, Christopher. 
 
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LOL ok..... 

You could do the same in sports betting. Thanks for discovering america, Christopher. 

I totally agree.

Sports betting and the stock market have the same volatile nature and the same variables, that deviate the same way, drive the math involved.

They only appear different on the surface, to the untrained eye.


 
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If you're betting on a hunch you'll never make it. Conversation over
 
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People here are really having a hard debate about sports investing :))) why??? Just give picks and lets go haha
 
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People here are really having a hard debate about sports investing :))) why??? Just give picks and lets go haha
 
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You have obviously never bet on sports professionally, or have never met anyone who has been doing it successfully for more than a few years.  I mean, REALLY making serious money, season after season, year after year.

If you did?  We would not have to have this debate and you would understand what it is I am trying to say.  First, a person does NOT have to show you or TELL you ANYTHING about how they do something, just because they say they can.  So that means, I can tell you that I am making a million dollars a month, I do NOT have to tell you how, or even HINT at how I'm doing it, to confirm it.  They don't go hand and in hand.

Also, I said the popular/major wagering sports (soccer can typically be included, but mostly...) nba, mlb, nhl, ncaab, ncaaf, nfl.  If you can't beat all of them?  You are avoiding the inevitable.  You think just because you were 52% the past THREE years, you're going to continue to be 52% the next three years?  NO.  If you think that?  Then you DON'T understand the odds of the game.  

In order to make enough to live, you need to profit WAY more than you lose.  Other wise you'll be grinding and grinding making NOTHING and getting NO where.  

Yeah, ANYTHING is possible, that is my point.  You need to make sure the POSSIBLE does not happen with your money and TEST your method for YEARS before risking any money on it.  Like I said, I tested my method for 10+ YEARS for before wagering any live money on it.  And since then?  I have been winning every season, every sport, every year for 5+ years.  Did that 10+ years guarantee that I would win for the next 5 years? NO.  Does my success over the past 5+ years, mean I will continue to have success over the next 5+ years? NO.

Are my chances of continued success EXTREMELY higher than my chances of failure due to my ten years of testing?  YES.    That's all you can look for.  Putting the odds in your favor as MUCH as possible before taking any risks.



the fact that in every single post you reiterate that your a winner leads me to believe your not. if it weere possible id lay heavy chalk that youre not. i hate blowhards and youre easily the biggest one i've seen on this site. You're missing my point tho. A) one does not need to bet and win at every sport to make enough to live. This statement is absurd. B) you can have a losing year so long as the winning ones outweigh the losing ones. easy math. 60% and 50% makes 55% plenty profitable so long as stakes are high enough. nuff said.
Guarantee you were a puffer fish in your previous life. peace dude
 
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Quote Originally Posted by monstergrit:


the fact that in every single post you reiterate that your a winner leads me to believe your not. if it weere possible id lay heavy chalk that youre not. i hate blowhards and youre easily the biggest one i've seen on this site. You're missing my point tho. A) one does not need to bet and win at every sport to make enough to live. This statement is absurd. B) you can have a losing year so long as the winning ones outweigh the losing ones. easy math. 60% and 50% makes 55% plenty profitable so long as stakes are high enough. nuff said.
Guarantee you were a puffer fish in your previous life. peace dude

I'm just going to accept that most people cannot grasp certain concepts of math that others can.  And this, being the key reason why only a small 1% of the people who bet on sports can do it professionally and be profitable for years.

This debate between us is so unbelievably pointless, because you can't grasp simple concepts.  You're only angle is to keep assuming that I am a loser, that just talks out of my *ss, when the reality is, you have no real intelligent way to explain your inability to understand what I am saying.

A losing year, mathematically, will NEVER, remain as just a LOSING year in the long run. 

I don't see how HARD that is to understand.  It's like the majority of you people here are really brainless fools with money to gamble!  And it's extremely frustrating.  You REALLY think...I mean REALLY think that just because during THIS block of 2-3 years, you had one losing year, that the next block of 2-3 years, you won't have 3 LOSING years, or 2 LOSING years?  You just don't get it to do you?

If you have ONE losing year?  That can and WILL always, multiply and overlap into MORE losing years.  That is what I am saying.  So, if you want to be a profitable, LONG term winning sports bettor, you need to make sure what you're doing, or whatever method you are using has NO losing years, before you risk ANY money on it  Test it.  Record it on paper.  Do your research.  

A win-loss-win, can EASILY become a win-win-win, OR? A loss-loss-loss. 

Doesn't matter how much you make in any given year!  There is NO WAY, to know, that because you made $100k this year?  You will LOSE only $50k next year, or WIN $50k next year, or LOSE only $10k a year for the next 3 years.  Cmon now.....without TESTING, you know NOTHING.

It is so frustrating having to debate with such simple minded creatures....it's no wonder you fools are at such a low income level.  Seriously.  Sorry if I offend anyone, but, I'm just keeping it real!

Use your brain!  That's why you have it!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:


I'm just going to accept that most people cannot grasp certain concepts of math that others can.  And this, being the key reason why only a small 1% of the people who bet on sports can do it professionally and be profitable for years.

This debate between us is so unbelievably pointless, because you can't grasp simple concepts.  You're only angle is to keep assuming that I am a loser, that just talks out of my *ss, when the reality is, you have no real intelligent way to explain your inability to understand what I am saying.

A losing year, mathematically, will NEVER, remain as just a LOSING year in the long run. 

I don't see how HARD that is to understand.  It's like the majority of you people here are really brainless fools with money to gamble!  And it's extremely frustrating.  You REALLY think...I mean REALLY think that just because during THIS block of 2-3 years, you had one losing year, that the next block of 2-3 years, you won't have 3 LOSING years, or 2 LOSING years?  You just don't get it to do you?

If you have ONE losing year?  That can and WILL always, multiply and overlap into MORE losing years.  That is what I am saying.  So, if you want to be a profitable, LONG term winning sports bettor, you need to make sure what you're doing, or whatever method you are using has NO losing years, before you risk ANY money on it  Test it.  Record it on paper.  Do your research.  

A win-loss-win, can EASILY become a win-win-win, OR? A loss-loss-loss. 

Doesn't matter how much you make in any given year!  There is NO WAY, to know, that because you made $100k this year?  You will LOSE only $50k next year, or WIN $50k next year, or LOSE only $10k a year for the next 3 years.  Cmon now.....without TESTING, you know NOTHING.

It is so frustrating having to debate with such simple minded creatures....it's no wonder you fools are at such a low income level.  Seriously.  Sorry if I offend anyone, but, I'm just keeping it real!

Use your brain!  That's why you have it!

Please explain the mathematical calculation you used to determine that a losing year will always proliferate so that we can laugh at you some more.

Do you even realise how ridiculous that sounds? You didn't even state a particular system would be deemed to fail again if it had already failed on one season, you were talking about the being placing the bets.

Intelligence? You don't seem to have much understanding of sports at all and if you even do know math there are definitely things you fail to understand in how math relates to the NBA. Even if a system has been back tested and deemed profitable over the last ten years, it could still lose this year. That's why we call numerical data in sports TRENDS because there is NO certainty that this math will ever repeat itself again.

Everybody reading this should flag you as an imposter bookie or a liar because there is no way someone as idiotic as you could make money in this game, Just no. You suck too much.

 
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ALSO YOU shout the wrong words WHEN you TYPE.

Think about the words you want to put more emphasis on and choose those to capitalise next time please and you won't seem so erratic and stupid.

I mean come on who the hell capitalises LOSING seventeen times in one paragraph.

 
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you say i cant see your angle and you clearly cant see mine. my angle from the jump was that you dont have to be profitable in all sports and CAN have a losing year so long as the winning years outwiegh the losing ones. the angle of you being a loser came up when you continuously hype yourself up without any backing at all.
sure having a system thats backtested is a great advantage but its not the only way to win long term imo. truth is im not a pro so i dont know from experience, but to say you have to win in every sport every year is just plain stupid. Im a winner in this game because i enjoy the fact that im able to afford to play it. same as any table game. 

the fact that you cant see this still, reinforces my suspicion that you are in fact a loser in real life. you seem obsessed with proving what a big man you are, may work on some folk but not me. until you and your team get off your high horse and post a winning season i wont believe you simply due to your copious self hyping. btw you come off as incredibly simple minded in everyone of your posts, but worry not as i dont take offense to it. 
way to keep it real bud
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Killa_Kraken:

Please explain the mathematical calculation you used to determine that a losing year will always proliferate so that we can laugh at you some more.

Do you even realise how ridiculous that sounds? You didn't even state a particular system would be deemed to fail again if it had already failed on one season, you were talking about the being placing the bets.

Intelligence? You don't seem to have much understanding of sports at all and if you even do know math there are definitely things you fail to understand in how math relates to the NBA. Even if a system has been back tested and deemed profitable over the last ten years, it could still lose this year. That's why we call numerical data in sports TRENDS because there is NO certainty that this math will ever repeat itself again.

Everybody reading this should flag you as an imposter bookie or a liar because there is no way someone as idiotic as you could make money in this game, Just no. You suck too much.


This is the last time I am going to respond or engage in any type of debate with you guys (I'm using "you guys" sine you decided to speak of yourself as "we", being a "group entity"....idk if you realize how silly and ridiculous that makes you seem)

I guess the only way for you to understand certain things is to have them stated multiple times.  I'm not even sure if that will help you understand and/or grasp the simple concepts I am expressing, but, I will try again.  This will however be my last time....it doesn't even seem to be worth it any more.  

For the last time......and I quote myself.....The odds are heavily against you with every single bet you place.  That is why the books will win consistently against more than 98% of the people who wager on sports LONG TERM.  The ONLY way to win, is to find a method, that has been proven to GREATLY reduce your chances of failure over a LONG period of time.  Which is years.  Even when I stated that I tested a method over ten years I stated, that did NOT guarantee I would continue to win (obviously you missed that part, or, don't have to brain capacity to remember that much, which is understandable, I am dealing with simple minded buffoons), but, my chances of success, due to my long extensive testing and record keeping, are MUCH higher, than me just jumping in, risking money based off of something that was created just 2-3 years ago.

How is that so hard to understand?  -_-  I mean really.

And also, I said, that a losing year, can easily become MANY losing years.  That is definitely the SIMPLEST concept of all.  Anyone who knows anything about math and randomness can understand that right away.

If you flip a coin ten times, and get this, (h-heads, t-tails) h,t,h,t,h,ttt,hh.....the next ten times? could be the same, total opposite, or slightly different.  Sports betting winning years and losing years is NO DIFFERENT.  You really can't understand how two winning years and one losing year, ...can easily be flipped to two losing years and one winning year?  REALLY??  Is that REALLY that hard to understand???

That is why, I stated, in order to REALLY win....you should make sure you have a method that WINS every year.

And now you resort to nit picking at the way I capitalize certain words in certain paragraphs I type?  How old are you?  12?  17? 22?  ......grow up and stop being such a simple minded, brainless buffoon.  

This debate isn't over....you can continue on your mindless banter and keep losing in sports as much as you want....but I am definitely no longer going to be apart of the debate.  I have nothing to prove here, and there is just no talking to some of you.  You're just too behind in your education and level of understanding.  Honestly.

I wish you the best! :)
 
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Record 2-0
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Cle $1500
Gsw $1000

Locking in
 
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How do you lock something in without a spread? 

Quit trying to be somebody and go to school. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:


you flip a coin ten times, and get this, (h-heads, t-tails) h,t,h,t,h,ttt,hh.....the next ten times? could be the same, total opposite, or slightly different.  Sports betting winning years and losing years is NO DIFFERENT.  You really can't understand how two winning years and one losing year, ...can easily be flipped to two losing years and one winning year?  REALLY??  Is that REALLY that hard to understand

 
I understand your argument I'm just DISAGREEING with you AND insulting your intelligence, COULDN'T you at least FIGURE that much OUT?
 
 See how I capitalized RANDOM words there, made for a GOOD read didn't it.
 
FTR you did not say what I have just quoted there, you changed your tune completely from this -
 
"If you have ONE losing year?  That can and WILL always, multiply and overlap into MORE losing years.  That is what I am saying.  So, if you want to be a profitable, LONG term winning sports bettor, you need to make sure what you're doing, or whatever method you are using has NO losing years, before you risk ANY money on it  Test it.  Record it on paper.  Do your research. "
 
To your new argument of randomness and coin flipping which completely contradict themselves.
 
I hope everybody sees you for the joke you are and never takes another thing you say seriously on this forum. You are 100% full of bull sh-it and you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
You just sprinkle dog shi-t with this talk of mathematics and systems, well then show us your calculations I assure you I am perfectly capable of understanding them if you can.
 
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Basically went from saying something DEFINITELY WILL HAPPEN to saying that thing POSSIBLY COULD HAPPEN and calling me stupid for not understanding the concept.

We already knew it possibly could happen idiot we were only arguing with you because you said that it definitely would.

 
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Not enough data mate,
Killa_kraken is right, you can't afford one losing year.

You need 10 years of profit year in and year out to be even considered a pro in my eyes.

Mathematics and systems are simple, don't ever bet more than what you have profited in betting.






 
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Quote Originally Posted by monstergrit:

you say i cant see your angle and you clearly cant see mine. my angle from the jump was that you dont have to be profitable in all sports and CAN have a losing year so long as the winning years outwiegh the losing ones. the angle of you being a loser came up when you continuously hype yourself up without any backing at all.
sure having a system thats backtested is a great advantage but its not the only way to win long term imo. truth is im not a pro so i dont know from experience, but to say you have to win in every sport every year is just plain stupid. Im a winner in this game because i enjoy the fact that im able to afford to play it. same as any table game. 

the fact that you cant see this still, reinforces my suspicion that you are in fact a loser in real life. you seem obsessed with proving what a big man you are, may work on some folk but not me. until you and your team get off your high horse and post a winning season i wont believe you simply due to your copious self hyping. btw you come off as incredibly simple minded in everyone of your posts, but worry not as i dont take offense to it. 
way to keep it real bud
 

Every single one of them!

That's why nobody believes anything you say, you just give off the vibe of a simpleton.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by eckles:

Not enough data mate,
Killa_kraken is right, you can't afford one losing year.

You need 10 years of profit year in and year out to be even considered a pro in my eyes.

Mathematics and systems are simple, don't ever bet more than what you have profited in betting.






You must have misunderstood me, that was his argument until he backtracked and changed it up on us, I was quoting him.

I actually believe that if you do happen to have a bad year and adjust your betting strategy significantly you could go on to win multiple years after that, whether or not you can call yourself a pro idk.

I'm new to this and haven't even had a year experience yet so I'm not saying that because I've had a bad year I just see the BS this dude types is clearly bull sh-it.

 
 
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