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    Trae Young better than Doncic and better than Curry at the same age! Let the debate begin.

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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2021 - 3:40 AM ET #701

    "Steph Curry of the Golden State Warriors was a unanimous selection to the 2009-10 NBA All-Rookie First Team, the NBA announced today....Curry, a three time Western Conference Rookie of the Month selection (January, March, April) ranked second among rookies in scoring (17.5 ppg) and finished first in assists (5.9 apg), steals (1.9 spg), minutes (37.2), free throw percentage (.885) and three-point percentage (.437). Curry’s 166 three-pointers made led all rookies."

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    "Steph Curry of the Golden State Warriors was a unanimous selection to the 2009-10 NBA All-Rookie First Team, the NBA announced today....Curry, a three time Western Conference Rookie of the Month selection (January, March, April) ranked second among rookies in scoring (17.5 ppg) and finished first in assists (5.9 apg), steals (1.9 spg), minutes (37.2), free throw percentage (.885) and three-point percentage (.437). Curry’s 166 three-pointers made led all rookies."

     
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    2009-10 T-Mobile NBA All-Rookie First Team
    Player Team First (2 pt) Second (1 Pt) Total
    Tyreke Evans Sacramento 29 -- 58
    Brandon Jennings Milwaukee 29 -- 58
    Stephen Curry Golden State 29 -- 58
    Darren Collison New Orleans 20 6 46
    Taj Gibson Chicago 15 11 41

    2009-10 T-Mobile NBA All-Rookie Second Team
    Player Team First (2 pt) Second (1 Pt) Total
    Marcus Thornton New Orleans 6 19 31
    DeJuan Blair San Antonio 6 18 30
    James Harden Oklahoma City 4 14 22
    Jonny Flynn Minnesota 4 14 22
    Jonas Jerebko Detroit 2 18 22

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    2009-10 T-Mobile NBA All-Rookie First Team
    Player Team First (2 pt) Second (1 Pt) Total
    Tyreke Evans Sacramento 29 -- 58
    Brandon Jennings Milwaukee 29 -- 58
    Stephen Curry Golden State 29 -- 58
    Darren Collison New Orleans 20 6 46
    Taj Gibson Chicago 15 11 41

    2009-10 T-Mobile NBA All-Rookie Second Team
    Player Team First (2 pt) Second (1 Pt) Total
    Marcus Thornton New Orleans 6 19 31
    DeJuan Blair San Antonio 6 18 30
    James Harden Oklahoma City 4 14 22
    Jonny Flynn Minnesota 4 14 22
    Jonas Jerebko Detroit 2 18 22

     
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    Again, we are comparing apples and oranges.  Trae Young was also unanimous all rookie.

    These guys are entirely different players.  One is a traditional point guard, the other is a shooter.  The only reason they're being compared is because of beginnerboy, not me.

    The idea that Stu saw him, so only he knows he wasn't all that when he was young, and we don't know basketball if we didn't play organized basketball, doesn't make sense, since Curry was unanimous all rookie.  Maybe Stu is critical of the guy at a young age, like a  parent is critical of his kid, I don't know.  All the voters didn't feel critical about the kid. 

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    Again, we are comparing apples and oranges.  Trae Young was also unanimous all rookie.

    These guys are entirely different players.  One is a traditional point guard, the other is a shooter.  The only reason they're being compared is because of beginnerboy, not me.

    The idea that Stu saw him, so only he knows he wasn't all that when he was young, and we don't know basketball if we didn't play organized basketball, doesn't make sense, since Curry was unanimous all rookie.  Maybe Stu is critical of the guy at a young age, like a  parent is critical of his kid, I don't know.  All the voters didn't feel critical about the kid. 

     
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    What's scary here is the first part of the thread-Trae Young is better than Doncic.

    If anybody believes that other than bb, we got another 29 pages of arguments an_roll_laugh

    Don't get me wrong Trae is a fabulous player, but better than Doncic?? loll

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    What's scary here is the first part of the thread-Trae Young is better than Doncic.

    If anybody believes that other than bb, we got another 29 pages of arguments an_roll_laugh

    Don't get me wrong Trae is a fabulous player, but better than Doncic?? loll

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Again, we are comparing apples and oranges.  Trae Young was also unanimous all rookie. These guys are entirely different players.  One is a traditional point guard, the other is a shooter.  The only reason they're being compared is because of beginnerboy, not me. The idea that Stu saw him, so only he knows he wasn't all that when he was young, doesn't make sense, since Curry was unanimous all rookie.  Maybe Stu is critical of the guy at a young age, like a  parent is critical of his kid, I don't know.  All the voters didn't feel critical about the kid.

     

    dude,nobody is saying curry wasnt good....come on man,this isnt difficult.OF COURSE he was good.we are talking about the raw materials for potentially one of the more potent,skilled small men to ever play basketball...but he wasnt fully developed yet..he was a long way from the supernova that you saw dominating the league at the ages of 25-30...he was MUCH weaker,had an inferior handle and less responsibility as a leader and facilitator and wasnt anywhere near as polished at finishing close to the rim,nor did he shoot from as far out.........THE MAIN FEATURE of currys career was the dramatic improvement he made (that NOBODY saw coming to the degree that it happened) to ascend to being the MVP 2 times over,he DID NOT come into the league anywhere near being that guy.but he was nice and had potential for sure,and always could shoot obviously.....now staggeringly,even though the entire hoops watching public is well aware of this startling ascension,your boy "throw-dem-lies" is completely oblivious to it all and is under the illusion that steph was basically almost the same guy at 22 as he was when he was winning rings and MVP's.

     

    its kind of embarrassing how little the guy actually knows about nba hoops and about curry specifically...i mean that basic career arc is "curry 101" type stuff.

     

    the argument isnt "was steph curry good at 22?".....confused...like no....its was he better than the other guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Again, we are comparing apples and oranges.  Trae Young was also unanimous all rookie. These guys are entirely different players.  One is a traditional point guard, the other is a shooter.  The only reason they're being compared is because of beginnerboy, not me. The idea that Stu saw him, so only he knows he wasn't all that when he was young, doesn't make sense, since Curry was unanimous all rookie.  Maybe Stu is critical of the guy at a young age, like a  parent is critical of his kid, I don't know.  All the voters didn't feel critical about the kid.

     

    dude,nobody is saying curry wasnt good....come on man,this isnt difficult.OF COURSE he was good.we are talking about the raw materials for potentially one of the more potent,skilled small men to ever play basketball...but he wasnt fully developed yet..he was a long way from the supernova that you saw dominating the league at the ages of 25-30...he was MUCH weaker,had an inferior handle and less responsibility as a leader and facilitator and wasnt anywhere near as polished at finishing close to the rim,nor did he shoot from as far out.........THE MAIN FEATURE of currys career was the dramatic improvement he made (that NOBODY saw coming to the degree that it happened) to ascend to being the MVP 2 times over,he DID NOT come into the league anywhere near being that guy.but he was nice and had potential for sure,and always could shoot obviously.....now staggeringly,even though the entire hoops watching public is well aware of this startling ascension,your boy "throw-dem-lies" is completely oblivious to it all and is under the illusion that steph was basically almost the same guy at 22 as he was when he was winning rings and MVP's.

     

    its kind of embarrassing how little the guy actually knows about nba hoops and about curry specifically...i mean that basic career arc is "curry 101" type stuff.

     

    the argument isnt "was steph curry good at 22?".....confused...like no....its was he better than the other guy.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2021 - 4:12 AM ET #706

    no,young is most certainly not better than doncic..and obviously therefore neither was curry.

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    no,young is most certainly not better than doncic..and obviously therefore neither was curry.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2021 - 4:14 AM ET #707

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     I told u.. why u had bump this thread from the grave..  an_eek2

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     I told u.. why u had bump this thread from the grave..  an_eek2

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2021 - 4:15 AM ET #708

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    cause it's the offseason man.  when football starts, finally something to do.  lot of dull space going on

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    cause it's the offseason man.  when football starts, finally something to do.  lot of dull space going on

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2021 - 4:17 AM ET #709

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      That Melo guy loves to argue.. an_beatup

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      That Melo guy loves to argue.. an_beatup

     
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    According to bb:

    -Trae Young is better than Doncic now

    -Trare Young is better than curry at the same age (22)

    I can agree that it's arguable that Trae is better than curry at 22.  You can argue that.

    But better than Doncic now?  Doncic has 4 popsicles to help him win NBA games loll

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    According to bb:

    -Trae Young is better than Doncic now

    -Trare Young is better than curry at the same age (22)

    I can agree that it's arguable that Trae is better than curry at 22.  You can argue that.

    But better than Doncic now?  Doncic has 4 popsicles to help him win NBA games loll

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2021 - 4:18 AM ET #711

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     worthless degenerates, all of us loll

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     worthless degenerates, all of us loll

     
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    Entertainment 4 the fellas.  Slovenia made the Olympics, beat Lithuania in Lithuania.

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    Entertainment 4 the fellas.  Slovenia made the Olympics, beat Lithuania in Lithuania.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    @budwiser   That Melo guy loves to argue..

     

    put up an argument that couldnt be dismantled by a 2 year old and i'll disappear instantly.an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    @budwiser   That Melo guy loves to argue..

     

    put up an argument that couldnt be dismantled by a 2 year old and i'll disappear instantly.an_cheers

     
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     yeah i know, your argument is so solid nobody with any sense at all can challenge it.  sorry dude. loll

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     yeah i know, your argument is so solid nobody with any sense at all can challenge it.  sorry dude. loll

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    @melossinglet  yeah i know, your argument is so solid nobody with any sense at all can challenge it.  sorry dude. loll
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    @melossinglet  yeah i know, your argument is so solid nobody with any sense at all can challenge it.  sorry dude. loll
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    Like I said from the beginning the Hawks are much better for an eastern conference team than these guys are making them out to be. It was a lot less Trae than all the pieces they added. Put a 22 year old Steph on this Hawks team instead of Trae and they are a much better team. Would be fun to watch. Unfortunately only basketball novices argue team success of players in their first 2-3 years. Some guys simply get dealt a terrible hand and have to play with some bums during a rebuild. The Hawks did an awesome job surrounding Trae with weapons. He played just as well as he did last year and they were 20-47.

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    Like I said from the beginning the Hawks are much better for an eastern conference team than these guys are making them out to be. It was a lot less Trae than all the pieces they added. Put a 22 year old Steph on this Hawks team instead of Trae and they are a much better team. Would be fun to watch. Unfortunately only basketball novices argue team success of players in their first 2-3 years. Some guys simply get dealt a terrible hand and have to play with some bums during a rebuild. The Hawks did an awesome job surrounding Trae with weapons. He played just as well as he did last year and they were 20-47.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:

    Like I said from the beginning the Hawks are much better for an eastern conference team than these guys are making them out to be. It was a lot less Trae than all the pieces they added. Put a 22 year old Steph on this Hawks team instead of Trae and they are a much better team. Would be fun to watch. Unfortunately only basketball novices argue team success of players in their first 2-3 years. Some guys simply get dealt a terrible hand and have to play with some bums during a rebuild. The Hawks did an awesome job surrounding Trae with weapons. He played just as well as he did last year and they were 20-47.
    new_laugh_cry

     

    this fuccin stooge would not have been saying ANY of this prior to the season kicking off.an_shake

    yep,they are a decent,"nice",young group on the rise...but not a fuggin soul on planet earth had them a)making the playoffs as a middle seed,b)winning a series,c)winning ANOTHER series vs the much more vaunted sixers on the road and d)giving a decent fight in ECF to come within a game of the nba fuggin finals.

     

    hmmmm,gee i wonder if THE MAIN MARQUEE PLAYER that has the ball most of the time had anything to do with all of that????...nope,it was kevin heurter and clint capela that were carrying young.an_roll_laugh

     

    amazing how when dude is proven wrong he just up and moves the goalposts and introduces a whole new narrative to try and discredit and distract...crazy stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:

    Like I said from the beginning the Hawks are much better for an eastern conference team than these guys are making them out to be. It was a lot less Trae than all the pieces they added. Put a 22 year old Steph on this Hawks team instead of Trae and they are a much better team. Would be fun to watch. Unfortunately only basketball novices argue team success of players in their first 2-3 years. Some guys simply get dealt a terrible hand and have to play with some bums during a rebuild. The Hawks did an awesome job surrounding Trae with weapons. He played just as well as he did last year and they were 20-47.
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    this fuccin stooge would not have been saying ANY of this prior to the season kicking off.an_shake

    yep,they are a decent,"nice",young group on the rise...but not a fuggin soul on planet earth had them a)making the playoffs as a middle seed,b)winning a series,c)winning ANOTHER series vs the much more vaunted sixers on the road and d)giving a decent fight in ECF to come within a game of the nba fuggin finals.

     

    hmmmm,gee i wonder if THE MAIN MARQUEE PLAYER that has the ball most of the time had anything to do with all of that????...nope,it was kevin heurter and clint capela that were carrying young.an_roll_laugh

     

    amazing how when dude is proven wrong he just up and moves the goalposts and introduces a whole new narrative to try and discredit and distract...crazy stuff.

     
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    Hawks came a game from the Finals?

    Mayweather bet 450000 on
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    Hawks came a game from the Finals?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    @melossinglet   Hawks came a game from the Finals?

     

    oh shi.t,my bad.forgot we are dealing with complete dunces in here..IF THEY HAD WON ANOTHER GAME THEY HAD A CHANCE TO GET TO THE FINALS.

     

    way to be a pedantic,little child though...thats what you do when you lose an argument,right??try and distract and nitpick.

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    @melossinglet   Hawks came a game from the Finals?

     

    oh shi.t,my bad.forgot we are dealing with complete dunces in here..IF THEY HAD WON ANOTHER GAME THEY HAD A CHANCE TO GET TO THE FINALS.

     

    way to be a pedantic,little child though...thats what you do when you lose an argument,right??try and distract and nitpick.

     
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    Collins, Bogdanovic, Capela, Huerter, Sweet Lou, Gallinari

    Thats a squad man. 3, 40%+ 3 pt shooters and some skilled offensive players with a center that gave you 15/14. 

    But then again you don’t really understand basketball so it makes sense. It would serve you best just to ask us questions and learn.

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    Collins, Bogdanovic, Capela, Huerter, Sweet Lou, Gallinari

    Thats a squad man. 3, 40%+ 3 pt shooters and some skilled offensive players with a center that gave you 15/14. 

    But then again you don’t really understand basketball so it makes sense. It would serve you best just to ask us questions and learn.

     
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    And I’m not saying Trae isn’t the best player on the team. Just that he didn’t carry them on his back like he’s Lebron or something. They’re a credible squad. Not the same team as last year.

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    And I’m not saying Trae isn’t the best player on the team. Just that he didn’t carry them on his back like he’s Lebron or something. They’re a credible squad. Not the same team as last year.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:

    @melossinglet Collins, Bogdanovic, Capela, Huerter, Sweet Lou, Gallinari Thats a squad man. 3, 40%+ 3 pt shooters and some skilled offensive players with a center that gave you 15/14.  But then again you don’t really understand basketball so it makes sense. It would serve you best just to ask us questions and learn.
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    bahahaha..what sort of questions should i be asking??uuummm,how many corny basketball cliches and phrases can the dumbest guy that ever lived hold within his brain at one time??...i think we already know the answer to that one,its 2 right??...."48/44/93...48/44/93....48/44/93...most skilled offensive player ever...most skilled offensive player ever...most skilled offensive player ever...charlie babbit...charlie babbit..10 minutes till judge wapner,gotta get new underwear from k-mart..charlie babbit."

     

    its a reasonable roster yeah....but WAS ANYBODY ON THE FUCCING PLANET PICKING THEM TO GET TO A SIXTH GAME OF THE ECF???WERE YOU????an_popcornan_popcornan_popcorn...prior to the season you would have had them barely making the playoffs or just missing out,like most other people...in pure talent they were considered easily to be behind bucks,sixers,nets,celtics and probably pacers and on a par with the next mediocre tier of eastern squads....fact is that trae helped greatly to ELEVATE THEM but you want to minimise his effect on the team by completely over-valueing the rest of his teammates..cos,ya know...thats the kind of thing little bit.ches do when defeated in debates.....bogdan,danilo,heurter,collins and lou have NEVER been "winning" players before this season,but their play/improvement along with that of youngs has put them in the spotlight....they can count themselves very lucky that they didnt have a weak,limited spot-up shooter like 22 year old steph as their pg or they wouldnt even be sniffing the playoffs most likelythumbs_up

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    @melossinglet Collins, Bogdanovic, Capela, Huerter, Sweet Lou, Gallinari Thats a squad man. 3, 40%+ 3 pt shooters and some skilled offensive players with a center that gave you 15/14.  But then again you don’t really understand basketball so it makes sense. It would serve you best just to ask us questions and learn.
    new_laugh_cry

     

    bahahaha..what sort of questions should i be asking??uuummm,how many corny basketball cliches and phrases can the dumbest guy that ever lived hold within his brain at one time??...i think we already know the answer to that one,its 2 right??...."48/44/93...48/44/93....48/44/93...most skilled offensive player ever...most skilled offensive player ever...most skilled offensive player ever...charlie babbit...charlie babbit..10 minutes till judge wapner,gotta get new underwear from k-mart..charlie babbit."

     

    its a reasonable roster yeah....but WAS ANYBODY ON THE FUCCING PLANET PICKING THEM TO GET TO A SIXTH GAME OF THE ECF???WERE YOU????an_popcornan_popcornan_popcorn...prior to the season you would have had them barely making the playoffs or just missing out,like most other people...in pure talent they were considered easily to be behind bucks,sixers,nets,celtics and probably pacers and on a par with the next mediocre tier of eastern squads....fact is that trae helped greatly to ELEVATE THEM but you want to minimise his effect on the team by completely over-valueing the rest of his teammates..cos,ya know...thats the kind of thing little bit.ches do when defeated in debates.....bogdan,danilo,heurter,collins and lou have NEVER been "winning" players before this season,but their play/improvement along with that of youngs has put them in the spotlight....they can count themselves very lucky that they didnt have a weak,limited spot-up shooter like 22 year old steph as their pg or they wouldnt even be sniffing the playoffs most likelythumbs_up

     
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    They’d be way better with a 22 year old Steph. 4 shooters over 40% shooting and an elite ball handler like Steph. Would be fun to watch. Unfortunately the guy who takes most of their shots is their worst shooter. A poor defending, poor shooting pg is not better than a 22 year old Steph Curry, ha ha. You kids crack me up.

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    They’d be way better with a 22 year old Steph. 4 shooters over 40% shooting and an elite ball handler like Steph. Would be fun to watch. Unfortunately the guy who takes most of their shots is their worst shooter. A poor defending, poor shooting pg is not better than a 22 year old Steph Curry, ha ha. You kids crack me up.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:

    @melossinglet They’d be way better with a 22 year old Steph. 4 shooters over 40% shooting and an elite ball handler like Steph. Would be fun to watch. Unfortunately the guy who takes most of their shots is their worst shooter. A poor defending, poor shooting pg is not better than a 22 year old Steph Curry, ha ha. You kids crack me up.

     

    you kids??you loser..i would bet almost any amount of money that you are younger than both me and stu.

     

    how the hell any of those guys gonna get any shots created for them when steph COULD NOT DRIBBLE,COULD NOT SCORE IN THE PAINT OR GET FOUL CALLS at the age of 22??youre a dope that doesnt have the faintest idea about basketball at all..youve spent the entire time since learning of the sports existence listening to screaming A smith worship curry on t.v and then jacking off yourself over the thought of him chucking up yet another three.

     

    mmm,yep heurter,danilo and bogdan all standing around the arc ALONG WITH a young curry that could do nothing except for spot up and shoot himself...wow,what a combination!!how could it possibly fail?...an_roll_laugh

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    @melossinglet They’d be way better with a 22 year old Steph. 4 shooters over 40% shooting and an elite ball handler like Steph. Would be fun to watch. Unfortunately the guy who takes most of their shots is their worst shooter. A poor defending, poor shooting pg is not better than a 22 year old Steph Curry, ha ha. You kids crack me up.

     

    you kids??you loser..i would bet almost any amount of money that you are younger than both me and stu.

     

    how the hell any of those guys gonna get any shots created for them when steph COULD NOT DRIBBLE,COULD NOT SCORE IN THE PAINT OR GET FOUL CALLS at the age of 22??youre a dope that doesnt have the faintest idea about basketball at all..youve spent the entire time since learning of the sports existence listening to screaming A smith worship curry on t.v and then jacking off yourself over the thought of him chucking up yet another three.

     

    mmm,yep heurter,danilo and bogdan all standing around the arc ALONG WITH a young curry that could do nothing except for spot up and shoot himself...wow,what a combination!!how could it possibly fail?...an_roll_laugh

     
     
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     I'm older than the both of yas + trae went 0 for 6 from 3

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