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yup Charlotte game proved a point
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NBA rigged
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Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:
Nothing is rigged. The NBA, more than any other sport, is driven by math and statistics. You need to put the time in logging point margins, records and other stats. If you have the determination to do that - about an hour a day - you will win. If I can do it, anyone can.
Nothing is rigged. The NBA, more than any other sport, is driven by math and statistics. You need to put the time in logging point margins, records and other stats. If you have the determination to do that - about an hour a day - you will win. If I can do it, anyone can.
Tell me how do you cap a team winning by 30.with 2 min left and still jacking up the baskets... 3 times with a 1.20 left orlando fot the ball and into 10 sec or less they shot the ball from 3 instead of milking the playclock... yeahhh you want to come off really smart but your not..
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Quote Originally Posted by obravo21:
Tell me how do you cap a team winning by 30.with 2 min left and still jacking up the baskets... 3 times with a 1.20 left orlando fot the ball and into 10 sec or less they shot the ball from 3 instead of milking the playclock... yeahhh you want to come off really smart but your not..
Never said I was smart. There are plenty of guys on here - like Indigo and the Claw - who are much smarter than I am. However, I do put the time in running stats and building my math model.
Stats won't forecast the scenario you described. What they tell you is each team's odds of winning the game. Once you have that, you look for overlays.
Tonight, the math model that I use said Oklahoma and New Orleans were rated equal. However, New Orleans was getting 4 points. That's an overlay, so I bet it.
It's not hard, necessarily, but you can't be lazy about it or rely on your emotions. When I interject my own thoughts, the math model slaps me down. It's smarter than I am.
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Quote Originally Posted by Thegreek1975:
Not sure if it's rigged out just a bunch of overpaid idiots trying to score. Either way tomorrow if Orlando is up 30 with that much time they will hold the ball the entire way. And that's what makes it look funny.
This is an accurate statement. Here’s what you forgot.... these are the dumbest mfkers on the planet. College hoops has some of the best future minds.. many of which will never receive an NBA paycheck. But NBA boys are the dumbest SOB’s with the highest ratio of going from wealth to broke alive....even over Lottery $$$ winners. The dudes are fking total idiots which is why this League is the worst in any sport 
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nba is soo rigged you just have too figure out which games i have too admit i loaded on charlotte $line and then i saw the reverse line movement i pretty much knew it was a loss , was gonna buy out but let it ride, i used logic for t hat 1 the hornets have owned the magic but after that i knew the pelicans would not only cover but win, 95 % on okc $line lol, so i hammered pelicans $line and then again in live, i told my buddies at the gym what would happen before the game , lol funny thing is okc lost by too much t hey served the teasers up too, not every game is fixed but you just got too sniff them out,
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I put in about an hour today(2 hours yesterday) and picked the Knicks and Pelicans tonight. The scoring data showed Pelicans were only half a point weaker than OKC at home in the matchup, so I added a moneyline bet too. The Knicks had averaged -11.2 points during their 18-game losing streak while the Hawks had averaged -5 points. They weren't overwhelming favorites to cover the way NOP was, but I felt like betting them. I had no data to predict who would win the Orlando-Charlotte spread, but depending on how you weight streaks, Orlando had covered 6 out of their last 7 and won 6 of their last 7 as well, so they were screaming for a bet. Unfortunately, I just bet Charlotte because I got an extra point and didn't have a model to examine the effectiveness of win-streaks ATS.
Your model needs to be adaptive throughout the season for you to win consistently as teams often play better either in the beginning, middle, or end of the season. There are a few easily accessible models for each matchup if you search for them. Remember that you need to win 52.4% of the time to break even betting spreads at -11O. An elite professional bettor wins 55% of the time or more, which equates to tens of thousands of dollars in profit over a full year of betting(2.6% x $10k wagered per day at various books) is almost $1OOk profits. We're in this for the long haul. Adaptive betting models are the key to success.
Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:
Quote Originally Posted by obravo21:
Tell me how do you cap a team winning by 30.with 2 min left and still jacking up the baskets... 3 times with a 1.20 left orlando fot the ball and into 10 sec or less they shot the ball from 3 instead of milking the playclock... yeahhh you want to come off really smart but your not..
Never said I was smart. There are plenty of guys on here - like Indigo and the Claw - who are much smarter than I am. However, I do put the time in running stats and building my math model.Stats won't forecast the scenario you described. What they tell you is each team's odds of winning the game. Once you have that, you look for overlays.Tonight, the math model that I use said Oklahoma and New Orleans were rated equal. However, New Orleans was getting 4 points. That's an overlay, so I bet it.It's not hard, necessarily, but you can't be lazy about it or rely on your emotions. When I interject my own thoughts, the math model slaps me down. It's smarter than I am.Tell me how do you cap a team winning by 30.with 2 min left and still jacking up the baskets... 3 times with a 1.20 left orlando fot the ball and into 10 sec or less they shot the ball from 3 instead of milking the playclock... yeahhh you want to come off really smart but your not..
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Quote Originally Posted by obravo21:
Charlotte won the last 10 games they played, that's why Orlando never let up.
Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:
Nothing is rigged. The NBA, more than any other sport, is driven by math and statistics. You need to put the time in logging point margins, records and other stats. If you have the determination to do that - about an hour a day - you will win. If I can do it, anyone can.
Tell me how do you cap a team winning by 30.with 2 min left and still jacking up the baskets... 3 times with a 1.20 left orlando fot the ball and into 10 sec or less they shot the ball from 3 instead of milking the playclock... yeahhh you want to come off really smart but your not..Nothing is rigged. The NBA, more than any other sport, is driven by math and statistics. You need to put the time in logging point margins, records and other stats. If you have the determination to do that - about an hour a day - you will win. If I can do it, anyone can.
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Quote Originally Posted by Action008:
Tell me how do you cap a team winning by 30.with 2 min left and still jacking up the baskets... 3 times with a 1.20 left orlando fot the ball and into 10 sec or less they shot the ball from 3 instead of milking the playclock... yeahhh you want to come off really smart but your not.. Charlotte won the last 10 games they played, that's why Orlando never let up.
Tell me how do you cap a team winning by 30.with 2 min left and still jacking up the baskets... 3 times with a 1.20 left orlando fot the ball and into 10 sec or less they shot the ball from 3 instead of milking the playclock... yeahhh you want to come off really smart but your not.. Charlotte won the last 10 games they played, that's why Orlando never let up.
Winning by 30 with 2 min lwft.. come on man!!!
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They rig games in soccer world cup obviously they gonna rig a game here and there in nba regular season thats how the sports and betting industries work , dont forget there is more money in gambling than in sports , if there were no professional sports we would still have gambling however if gambling did not exist we would not have any of these professional sports paying billions to the players .
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The NBA isn't like the NFL. You have 5 main guys deciding the game with the bench accounting for a little over 1/4 of the game. If the lineup has significantly changed for either team in the last three years, then you can't base it off streaks like that. GS had a similar 11-game streak against LAC that ended in OT earlier in the season thanks to a fresh lineup and some luck of course.
Quote Originally Posted by Action008:
Charlotte won the last 10 games they played, that's why Orlando never let up.
Charlotte won the last 10 games they played, that's why Orlando never let up.
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Some of you guys really are missing the point here. I have been doing this long enough. Some of you seem to think it is some kind of conspiracy between the players, coaches, refs, and Vegas. IT IS NOT LIKE THAT. Vegas truly wants the same amount of action on both ends that's why they create weird lines. And no I am not saying games are not fixed, because I believe that some are. But not with everyone in on it. A ref or player could easily have a brother or friend with an online account. And go to that friend and say, hey buddy, there is going to be a ton of fouls called tonight. Then that particular ref calls foul after foul resulting in 60 plus FTS. Making the game cash the over more easily. But to collaborate a big scheme with many different people involved would be too risky and too hard to do in a league that plays every night. With that being said, watching the flow of that game did not make me think it was fixed. However it pissed me off to no end that the Magic were playing like they were behind the last 3 minutes when in fact they were up by 30 plus. That, along with the refs calling fouls helped get the game to go over. But if they are going to fix a game, they are not going to wait til the last 3 minutes needing 22 points and having to need guys to make jump shot after jump shot to hit the over, including a 4 point play mind you. It's just like a game where some knucklehead shoots a 3 at the buzzer when his team is down by 15, a meaningless shot. It goes in, and it cashes the over. People come here and cry that the game was fixed. But in reality, if they were going to fix a game for millions of dollars, do you really think they are going to put everything on one man who shoots 33% from 3 on one shot at the buzzer to cash the over? I mean think about that. He would only make that 40% of the time in the gym by himself. And yet the "fixers" are going to let everything ride that he makes that shot that day. It does not make sense. The biggest problem is exactly what DallasM said. These are some dumb dudes playing ball, and some of the most selfish. So when these scrubs come into the game who never see playing action, their first thought it so score and go quickly. That means it's on the coach to tell them to slow down, which Dumbo Steve Clifford never did. Proves even more, he does not have control of that team. He lets the prisoners run the asylum.
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Quote Originally Posted by duffjr:
I put in about an hour today(2 hours yesterday) and picked the Knicks and Pelicans tonight. The scoring data showed Pelicans were only half a point weaker than OKC at home in the matchup, so I added a moneyline bet too. The Knicks had averaged -11.2 points during their 18-game losing streak while the Hawks had averaged -5 points. They weren't overwhelming favorites to cover the way NOP was, but I felt like betting them. I had no data to predict who would win the Orlando-Charlotte spread, but depending on how you weight streaks, Orlando had covered 6 out of their last 7 and won 6 of their last 7 as well, so they were screaming for a bet. Unfortunately, I just bet Charlotte because I got an extra point and didn't have a model to examine the effectiveness of win-streaks ATS. Your model needs to be adaptive throughout the season for you to win consistently as teams often play better either in the beginning, middle, or end of the season. There are a few easily accessible models for each matchup if you search for them. Remember that you need to win 52.4% of the time to break even betting spreads at -11O. An elite professional bettor wins 55% of the time or more, which equates to tens of thousands of dollars in profit over a full year of betting(2.6% x $10k wagered per day at various books) is almost $1OOk profits. We're in this for the long haul. Adaptive betting models are the key to success.
I put in about an hour today(2 hours yesterday) and picked the Knicks and Pelicans tonight. The scoring data showed Pelicans were only half a point weaker than OKC at home in the matchup, so I added a moneyline bet too. The Knicks had averaged -11.2 points during their 18-game losing streak while the Hawks had averaged -5 points. They weren't overwhelming favorites to cover the way NOP was, but I felt like betting them. I had no data to predict who would win the Orlando-Charlotte spread, but depending on how you weight streaks, Orlando had covered 6 out of their last 7 and won 6 of their last 7 as well, so they were screaming for a bet. Unfortunately, I just bet Charlotte because I got an extra point and didn't have a model to examine the effectiveness of win-streaks ATS. Your model needs to be adaptive throughout the season for you to win consistently as teams often play better either in the beginning, middle, or end of the season. There are a few easily accessible models for each matchup if you search for them. Remember that you need to win 52.4% of the time to break even betting spreads at -11O. An elite professional bettor wins 55% of the time or more, which equates to tens of thousands of dollars in profit over a full year of betting(2.6% x $10k wagered per day at various books) is almost $1OOk profits. We're in this for the long haul. Adaptive betting models are the key to success.
Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:
Quote Originally Posted by obravo21:
Tell me how do you cap a team winning by 30.with 2 min left and still jacking up the baskets... 3 times with a 1.20 left orlando fot the ball and into 10 sec or less they shot the ball from 3 instead of milking the playclock... yeahhh you want to come off really smart but your not..
Never said I was smart. There are plenty of guys on here - like Indigo and the Claw - who are much smarter than I am. However, I do put the time in running stats and building my math model.Stats won't forecast the scenario you described. What they tell you is each team's odds of winning the game. Once you have that, you look for overlays.Tonight, the math model that I use said Oklahoma and New Orleans were rated equal. However, New Orleans was getting 4 points. That's an overlay, so I bet it.It's not hard, necessarily, but you can't be lazy about it or rely on your emotions. When I interject my own thoughts, the math model slaps me down. It's smarter than I am.Tell me how do you cap a team winning by 30.with 2 min left and still jacking up the baskets... 3 times with a 1.20 left orlando fot the ball and into 10 sec or less they shot the ball from 3 instead of milking the playclock... yeahhh you want to come off really smart but your not..
This kind of stuff makes me laugh even more than the people who think every game is fixed. There are no "models" that can tell you who is going to play well in the NBA on a nightly basis. It all comes down to motivation. There is no magic formula that some teams play well in the middle of the year, and others at the end. If that were the case, everyone would just jump on those teams. It is different each and every night. BTW, elite sports bettors do hit around 55% of their bets. Well between 54-55%. Those are the top of the top. The top 99.999% of guys who make a living doing this. Most of the time, you will never know those people. But to win, all you need to do is hit 53-54%. Only about 5% or less people who gamble on sports actually hit that %. And then the "elite" hit that incredible 55%. And I mean truly ELITE. That's why it's funny when someone says they hit 60%. Or even funnier when someone says they are looking for someone who hits that percentage to follow. When you find that guy who hits 60% over time, he has some land in Iceland he wants to sell you as well. It does not exist. Even the best of the best, like Billy Walters, only hits almost 55% over time. All he wants.
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#23
Ok
Omg did this guy say nothing is rigged dude put the crack pipe down do u honestly believe theres o curroption with all that money on the line nothing is rigged?go google tennis 2 weeks ago go find out what happened guy got caught fixing games.whats ur excuse let me guess its fake news right
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Quote Originally Posted by Bkingsrep40:
Ok Omg did this guy say nothing is rigged dude put the crack pipe down do u honestly believe theres o curroption with all that money on the line nothing is rigged?go google tennis 2 weeks ago go find out what happened guy got caught fixing games.whats ur excuse let me guess its fake news right
Ok Omg did this guy say nothing is rigged dude put the crack pipe down do u honestly believe theres o curroption with all that money on the line nothing is rigged?go google tennis 2 weeks ago go find out what happened guy got caught fixing games.whats ur excuse let me guess its fake news right
Learn how to read bozo. I said I do believe some things are fixed but not like you want to think.
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