LEBRON IS A PHENOMENAL TALENT & ALL AROUND GREAT PLAYER, BUT HE REALLY IS NO JORDAN .....GREAT ATHLETE, BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE WHAT JORDAN & KOBE HAVE UPSTAIRS ....(YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT KILLER INSTINCT) ..... I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE BIAS & LOVE CERTAIN TEAMS, BUT WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED AT THAT LEVEL ....SOME OF THE COMMENTS AEW SPORTSCENTER....I WOULD OF WANTED TO PLAY WITH LEBRON OR BIRD FIRST, BUT JORDAN & KOBE ARE AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL SO FAR!! ........MY STARTING FIVE RIGHT NOW: WESTBROOK/KOBE/JAMES/DURANT/HOWARD ....WHO BEATS THIS 5??
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LEBRON IS A PHENOMENAL TALENT & ALL AROUND GREAT PLAYER, BUT HE REALLY IS NO JORDAN .....GREAT ATHLETE, BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE WHAT JORDAN & KOBE HAVE UPSTAIRS ....(YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT KILLER INSTINCT) ..... I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE BIAS & LOVE CERTAIN TEAMS, BUT WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED AT THAT LEVEL ....SOME OF THE COMMENTS AEW SPORTSCENTER....I WOULD OF WANTED TO PLAY WITH LEBRON OR BIRD FIRST, BUT JORDAN & KOBE ARE AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL SO FAR!! ........MY STARTING FIVE RIGHT NOW: WESTBROOK/KOBE/JAMES/DURANT/HOWARD ....WHO BEATS THIS 5??
I am not disputing Lebonbon's credentials...yes he has the size/strength blah blah blah...yes he shows up to games blah blah blah...what I'm saying is that he doesn't have the "IT" factor...stop comparing him to MJ...it just isn't there, I'm sure even "HE" will tell you that...yes Lebonbon is great but MJ was on a different planet, everytime he touched the ball, you knew, well atleast I knew that something great was going to happen, did Barkley and the Suns give him a scare, YES, did Malone and the Jazz give him the itch, YES, but he then took that and HIS TEAM to the NEXT LEVEL...that's why those other guys, Paxson, Kerr even Pippen made those clutch plays!!! I just don't see that in LEBONBON...yeah RAY RAY made that "shot"...but I just don't see LEBONBON going to him and say, "you CAN make that shot Ray, trust in me", it was a sloppy play and Ray Ray made it
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I am not disputing Lebonbon's credentials...yes he has the size/strength blah blah blah...yes he shows up to games blah blah blah...what I'm saying is that he doesn't have the "IT" factor...stop comparing him to MJ...it just isn't there, I'm sure even "HE" will tell you that...yes Lebonbon is great but MJ was on a different planet, everytime he touched the ball, you knew, well atleast I knew that something great was going to happen, did Barkley and the Suns give him a scare, YES, did Malone and the Jazz give him the itch, YES, but he then took that and HIS TEAM to the NEXT LEVEL...that's why those other guys, Paxson, Kerr even Pippen made those clutch plays!!! I just don't see that in LEBONBON...yeah RAY RAY made that "shot"...but I just don't see LEBONBON going to him and say, "you CAN make that shot Ray, trust in me", it was a sloppy play and Ray Ray made it
I'm very happy to see 5h is thread back. The respect this Nike creation gets is sickening.
It takes heart determination and talent to become a champion, all I see is talent, he is clearly missing the other two components.
Also, I've given the LeBron idiots enough cr×p here to last them a lifetime, you do not compare a 2 time loser in the nba finals about to be 3 time loser to a 6-0 Michael Jordan. Please stop showing your ignorance.
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I'm very happy to see 5h is thread back. The respect this Nike creation gets is sickening.
It takes heart determination and talent to become a champion, all I see is talent, he is clearly missing the other two components.
Also, I've given the LeBron idiots enough cr×p here to last them a lifetime, you do not compare a 2 time loser in the nba finals about to be 3 time loser to a 6-0 Michael Jordan. Please stop showing your ignorance.
[Quote: Originally Posted by BostonCelticFTW] I will be laughing at all the haters when Lebron has 9 rings in 10 years, what will your excuse be at that time? You haters will probably be saying "but he doesnt have 10"!!! He is horrible!"
They say, "He who laughs last, laugh's best!"..........Who's laughing now?
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[Quote: Originally Posted by BostonCelticFTW] I will be laughing at all the haters when Lebron has 9 rings in 10 years, what will your excuse be at that time? You haters will probably be saying "but he doesnt have 10"!!! He is horrible!"
They say, "He who laughs last, laugh's best!"..........Who's laughing now?
10 - Magic Johnson, Los Angeles vs. Philadelphia, May 14, 1980
He
sucks right guys? You dudes roasting LeBron are wrong about him. He
is the best player in the NBA BY FAR. He is clutch. He is great. One
of the greatest ever. Not better than MJ, but maybe better than Kobe --
not yet though and not just because of the rings. At least the Jordan
conversation can die after this finals (Jordan would never ever ever
have let a team he played on lose 2 back to back at home in the finals
by double digits -- impossible). The Kobe conversation will hinge on
what LeBron does next. The Heat achilles is a good bench. The Mavs got
them with this and now the Spurs will finish them with this. Problem
with 3 or 4 or 5 all stars on a team is no budget for quality role
players. That means no rest for the stars and no energy in the tough
moments. If they grab Melo that problem will continue -- they will win
more rings, but they won't 3peat, and they will have tough competition
as soon as the Thunder are coached by someone decent. Not to mention
the Clippers, Warriors, Pacers and Rockets will all get better next
year.
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Most trunovers by a player in a finals game
10 - Magic Johnson, Los Angeles vs. Philadelphia, May 14, 1980
He
sucks right guys? You dudes roasting LeBron are wrong about him. He
is the best player in the NBA BY FAR. He is clutch. He is great. One
of the greatest ever. Not better than MJ, but maybe better than Kobe --
not yet though and not just because of the rings. At least the Jordan
conversation can die after this finals (Jordan would never ever ever
have let a team he played on lose 2 back to back at home in the finals
by double digits -- impossible). The Kobe conversation will hinge on
what LeBron does next. The Heat achilles is a good bench. The Mavs got
them with this and now the Spurs will finish them with this. Problem
with 3 or 4 or 5 all stars on a team is no budget for quality role
players. That means no rest for the stars and no energy in the tough
moments. If they grab Melo that problem will continue -- they will win
more rings, but they won't 3peat, and they will have tough competition
as soon as the Thunder are coached by someone decent. Not to mention
the Clippers, Warriors, Pacers and Rockets will all get better next
year.
No one is saying he sucks bob, He is a VERY GOOD PLAYER, Far from the best, he is a Nike Creation, He isnt better than Kobe, not now not ever. the original poster is a lunatic and worse than that he is an imbecile for even making this thread
1000 times better than Jordan???
What is he smoking?
6-0
Thread should have never been started
and shameless argument should have never been made andmyself being a Dumb idiot fan in my youth my I never appreciated MJ, Spent too much time not enjoying the greatness that was his game because I was a Pistons fan.
Shame on me then
No blinders on now
No fan love now
I see everything
and Lebron isnt even on the same level as Larry Bird
Dude lacks heart and determination.
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No one is saying he sucks bob, He is a VERY GOOD PLAYER, Far from the best, he is a Nike Creation, He isnt better than Kobe, not now not ever. the original poster is a lunatic and worse than that he is an imbecile for even making this thread
1000 times better than Jordan???
What is he smoking?
6-0
Thread should have never been started
and shameless argument should have never been made andmyself being a Dumb idiot fan in my youth my I never appreciated MJ, Spent too much time not enjoying the greatness that was his game because I was a Pistons fan.
Shame on me then
No blinders on now
No fan love now
I see everything
and Lebron isnt even on the same level as Larry Bird
Thanks for that post mafioso -- I agree that right now I would not put him above Kobe or Larry or even Dirk (seriously but that is controversial) -- he is top 25 right now in my mind -- right around Charles Barkley and Karl Malone in my "pyramid" -- I still think there is a lot of history left for him though -- but most likely only if he deserts the Heat -- Melo as great as he is could also be team cancer -- I like the Clippers to get to the finals next year vs. The Pacers if everything stays as it is...who knows -- regardless appreciate the civial convo and FTW is a massive troll and dush
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Thanks for that post mafioso -- I agree that right now I would not put him above Kobe or Larry or even Dirk (seriously but that is controversial) -- he is top 25 right now in my mind -- right around Charles Barkley and Karl Malone in my "pyramid" -- I still think there is a lot of history left for him though -- but most likely only if he deserts the Heat -- Melo as great as he is could also be team cancer -- I like the Clippers to get to the finals next year vs. The Pacers if everything stays as it is...who knows -- regardless appreciate the civial convo and FTW is a massive troll and dush
WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME YOU LIED ABOUT "GUARANTEEING" THAT A FIXED RESULT WOULD OCCUR OR ELSE YOU WOULD LEAVE COVERS AND NEVER,EVER POST AGAIN.
FIRST IT WAS THE PACERS,THEN IT WAS THE THUNDER MOST RECENTLY IN GAME 6 VERSUS SPURS.
YOU "GUARANTEED" VICTORY TO THE THUNDER COS YOU ARE SPECIAL AND KNOW HOW TO "READ" THE LINES,
SO,AGAIN,WHY ARE YOU HERE??????!!!!!!!!!????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW MANY MORE TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO LIE ABOUT PROMISING TO LEAVE IF A CERTAIN "GUARANTEED" RESULT DOESNT COME ABOUT??YA GOT ONE FOR US IN THE FINALS?????...ANOTHER SURE-FIRE -220 ML WINNER???
OH,ALMOST FORGOT.....WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?????!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????
anyone who wants to confirm wat a brain-dead piece of shi+ this dude is,as well as a compulsive liar,just go back to his past threads for said promises.
i couldnt actually care wat dude does but i do hate liars...why say it if you aint got any intention of doing it??
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Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:
WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME YOU LIED ABOUT "GUARANTEEING" THAT A FIXED RESULT WOULD OCCUR OR ELSE YOU WOULD LEAVE COVERS AND NEVER,EVER POST AGAIN.
FIRST IT WAS THE PACERS,THEN IT WAS THE THUNDER MOST RECENTLY IN GAME 6 VERSUS SPURS.
YOU "GUARANTEED" VICTORY TO THE THUNDER COS YOU ARE SPECIAL AND KNOW HOW TO "READ" THE LINES,
SO,AGAIN,WHY ARE YOU HERE??????!!!!!!!!!????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW MANY MORE TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO LIE ABOUT PROMISING TO LEAVE IF A CERTAIN "GUARANTEED" RESULT DOESNT COME ABOUT??YA GOT ONE FOR US IN THE FINALS?????...ANOTHER SURE-FIRE -220 ML WINNER???
OH,ALMOST FORGOT.....WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?????!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????
anyone who wants to confirm wat a brain-dead piece of shi+ this dude is,as well as a compulsive liar,just go back to his past threads for said promises.
i couldnt actually care wat dude does but i do hate liars...why say it if you aint got any intention of doing it??
No one is saying he sucks bob, He is a VERY GOOD PLAYER, Far from the best, he is a Nike Creation, He isnt better than Kobe, not now not ever. the original poster is a lunatic and worse than that he is an imbecile for even making this thread
1000 times better than Jordan???
What is he smoking?
6-0
Thread should have never been started
and shameless argument should have never been made andmyself being a Dumb idiot fan in my youth my I never appreciated MJ, Spent too much time not enjoying the greatness that was his game because I was a Pistons fan.
Shame on me then
No blinders on now
No fan love now
I see everything
and Lebron isnt even on the same level as Larry Bird
Dude lacks heart and determination.
Bro you're an amatuer fan
who knows diick and pretends to know someting....
Lebron is light years better than Kobe...... and when its all said and done.... he'll be better than MJ too.....
Its a team game son....... not a player based gasme...... and Lebron has been on the some shitty azz teams..... pay attention bro..... this spurs team would bust Kobes or MJs azz the same way.....
they got lucky they never had to feck with them..... MJ playes against 1 man teams..... while had 3 HOF players with him....
Kobe? LOLOLOLOOL. Wasn't even the most dominating player on ANY OF HIS CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS. Get real now bro.... dude had Shaq and then antiher 2 guys over 7 feet that can play out of thier minds..... take one of them off the team and he doesnt win. Get real...... pay attention please.
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Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:
No one is saying he sucks bob, He is a VERY GOOD PLAYER, Far from the best, he is a Nike Creation, He isnt better than Kobe, not now not ever. the original poster is a lunatic and worse than that he is an imbecile for even making this thread
1000 times better than Jordan???
What is he smoking?
6-0
Thread should have never been started
and shameless argument should have never been made andmyself being a Dumb idiot fan in my youth my I never appreciated MJ, Spent too much time not enjoying the greatness that was his game because I was a Pistons fan.
Shame on me then
No blinders on now
No fan love now
I see everything
and Lebron isnt even on the same level as Larry Bird
Dude lacks heart and determination.
Bro you're an amatuer fan
who knows diick and pretends to know someting....
Lebron is light years better than Kobe...... and when its all said and done.... he'll be better than MJ too.....
Its a team game son....... not a player based gasme...... and Lebron has been on the some shitty azz teams..... pay attention bro..... this spurs team would bust Kobes or MJs azz the same way.....
they got lucky they never had to feck with them..... MJ playes against 1 man teams..... while had 3 HOF players with him....
Kobe? LOLOLOLOOL. Wasn't even the most dominating player on ANY OF HIS CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS. Get real now bro.... dude had Shaq and then antiher 2 guys over 7 feet that can play out of thier minds..... take one of them off the team and he doesnt win. Get real...... pay attention please.
Kobe? LOLOLOLOOL. Wasn't even the most dominating player on ANY OF HIS CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS. Get real now bro.... dude had Shaq and then antiher 2 guys over 7 feet that can play out of thier minds..... take one of them off the team and he doesnt win. Get real...... pay attention please.
why do you keep bringing this point up every other day and i have to continue to tell you
odom played over bynum and bynum was not a key contributor to any titles
pau was completely soft and past his prime and got handled by KG,Dwight and than KG again. Pau looked really bad
and as for shaq he is a once in a life time talent most dominating player i have seen in my life time. but even himself said KOBE was the consensus best player in the league during the 3 peat era
Shaq does not win all those rings without any other player. A player the ENTIRE LEAGUE thought was the all around best player at that time. Derek fisher was not a point guard even those he was listed as the starting pq. Kobe f
acilitated the offense and derek fisher was just a spot up shooter. Kobe did all the hard word. Penetrating and breaking up defenses so shaq could get easy dunks
and if they would of stayed together would of had 5 or 6 easy i mean look at san antonio
doubt we are talking about the spurs 5th if the kobe and shaq lakers were still in tacts maybe only their 3rd
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Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:
Kobe? LOLOLOLOOL. Wasn't even the most dominating player on ANY OF HIS CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS. Get real now bro.... dude had Shaq and then antiher 2 guys over 7 feet that can play out of thier minds..... take one of them off the team and he doesnt win. Get real...... pay attention please.
why do you keep bringing this point up every other day and i have to continue to tell you
odom played over bynum and bynum was not a key contributor to any titles
pau was completely soft and past his prime and got handled by KG,Dwight and than KG again. Pau looked really bad
and as for shaq he is a once in a life time talent most dominating player i have seen in my life time. but even himself said KOBE was the consensus best player in the league during the 3 peat era
Shaq does not win all those rings without any other player. A player the ENTIRE LEAGUE thought was the all around best player at that time. Derek fisher was not a point guard even those he was listed as the starting pq. Kobe f
acilitated the offense and derek fisher was just a spot up shooter. Kobe did all the hard word. Penetrating and breaking up defenses so shaq could get easy dunks
and if they would of stayed together would of had 5 or 6 easy i mean look at san antonio
doubt we are talking about the spurs 5th if the kobe and shaq lakers were still in tacts maybe only their 3rd
This is how you gotta look at it. The title of the thread is a bit ridiculous. However all everyone on here talks about is mj's heart, determination, IT factor. That's all great but it is not measurable. The only aspect of basketball that mj was better than Lebron is mid range jumper. They are either tied or Lebron is better in every other statistical category. Mj averaged a few more ppg but mj shot about7 more times per game. Lebron has a much better overall floor game. Mj better pure scorer i guess, but %'s and stats don't even back that up. Lebron has shot in the high 50's the last 3 seasons. Statistically better 3point shooter also and he even takes more than mj. Mj shooting %declined across his career while Lebron has went up every year. Lebron is shooting better than.ever now. Once mj lost a bit of athleticism and had to shoot his % went down each year. Plus mj dominated all the 6' sg's over the years with superior talent speed and athleticism none of which he would have now against the better teams. Look at who he is scoring all his game winners on byron Russell, mark price, Craig ehlo, nick Anderson. Lets be.serious right now.
Ill say it like this. Mj may have dominated HIS era back then better than.Lebron is right now. However under no circumstances is he better at bball than Lebron. Just like stocktin an all time great was not better than westbrook
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This is how you gotta look at it. The title of the thread is a bit ridiculous. However all everyone on here talks about is mj's heart, determination, IT factor. That's all great but it is not measurable. The only aspect of basketball that mj was better than Lebron is mid range jumper. They are either tied or Lebron is better in every other statistical category. Mj averaged a few more ppg but mj shot about7 more times per game. Lebron has a much better overall floor game. Mj better pure scorer i guess, but %'s and stats don't even back that up. Lebron has shot in the high 50's the last 3 seasons. Statistically better 3point shooter also and he even takes more than mj. Mj shooting %declined across his career while Lebron has went up every year. Lebron is shooting better than.ever now. Once mj lost a bit of athleticism and had to shoot his % went down each year. Plus mj dominated all the 6' sg's over the years with superior talent speed and athleticism none of which he would have now against the better teams. Look at who he is scoring all his game winners on byron Russell, mark price, Craig ehlo, nick Anderson. Lets be.serious right now.
Ill say it like this. Mj may have dominated HIS era back then better than.Lebron is right now. However under no circumstances is he better at bball than Lebron. Just like stocktin an all time great was not better than westbrook
This is how you gotta look at it. The title of the thread is a bit ridiculous. However all everyone on here talks about is mj's heart, determination, IT factor. That's all great but it is not measurable. The only aspect of basketball that mj was better than Lebron is mid range jumper. They are either tied or Lebron is better in every other statistical category. Mj averaged a few more ppg but mj shot about7 more times per game. Lebron has a much better overall floor game. Mj better pure scorer i guess, but %'s and stats don't even back that up. Lebron has shot in the high 50's the last 3 seasons. Statistically better 3point shooter also and he even takes more than mj. Mj shooting %declined across his career while Lebron has went up every year. Lebron is shooting better than.ever now. Once mj lost a bit of athleticism and had to shoot his % went down each year. Plus mj dominated all the 6' sg's over the years with superior talent speed and athleticism none of which he would have now against the better teams. Look at who he is scoring all his game winners on byron Russell, mark price, Craig ehlo, nick Anderson. Lets be.serious right now.
Ill say it like this. Mj may have dominated HIS era back then better than.Lebron is right now. However under no circumstances is he better at bball than Lebron. Just like stocktin an all time great was not better than westbrook
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This is how you gotta look at it. The title of the thread is a bit ridiculous. However all everyone on here talks about is mj's heart, determination, IT factor. That's all great but it is not measurable. The only aspect of basketball that mj was better than Lebron is mid range jumper. They are either tied or Lebron is better in every other statistical category. Mj averaged a few more ppg but mj shot about7 more times per game. Lebron has a much better overall floor game. Mj better pure scorer i guess, but %'s and stats don't even back that up. Lebron has shot in the high 50's the last 3 seasons. Statistically better 3point shooter also and he even takes more than mj. Mj shooting %declined across his career while Lebron has went up every year. Lebron is shooting better than.ever now. Once mj lost a bit of athleticism and had to shoot his % went down each year. Plus mj dominated all the 6' sg's over the years with superior talent speed and athleticism none of which he would have now against the better teams. Look at who he is scoring all his game winners on byron Russell, mark price, Craig ehlo, nick Anderson. Lets be.serious right now.
Ill say it like this. Mj may have dominated HIS era back then better than.Lebron is right now. However under no circumstances is he better at bball than Lebron. Just like stocktin an all time great was not better than westbrook
WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????
...why say it if you aint got any intention of doing it??
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