Going to be here for a bit...so I'll post picks in this thread

Best bet to secure your profits once youre up for the day

So is just about every one of your "system" picks.  Today is another example.

Ill update your record again in a couple of days.  Cause we all know you wont.

Ncaab

Gw +4. 2 units

Thx

Kansas. But im off a bit right now. But kansas definitely stands out. 

Final plays for today.  Nba. Okc/miami under 214. Cavs/bucks under 197. 1 unit each. 

I normally ignore you. But i feel like you were sincere when you said good luck. Youve been lighting me up here. But at least i know youre human. And it takes a human to care if someone loses big money.  I dont know if you were bring sarcastic or not...either way. Thanks!!  I have been off past few days. But its totally fine. Its apart of sports betting.  Keep ib mind untis are relative to bankroll size. You bet what you can afford. Ive grown capital for years.  Years. Im not here to prove anything.....if you only have ten untis and youre down 4?  Then thats 40% of your capital. That hurts!   But if youve got 100-200 units and you lose 4?  Youre definitely still in the game. And it doesnt phase you if the 100-200 units is pure profit. Which anyone can get to with time effort and consistency!  

Your system is inconsistent...very....you are claiming to help those that you say arent even in your league...if I have a bankroll of 1-200 units, then fine...no big deal win your system craps the bed...but for a lot of people on here, they dont have a bankroll of 100-200 units...and they arent going to get there with your system.

You bail yourself out by saying "stick" with me long term.  That isnt relavent, because someone who may have just started tailing you is down 4 units within the last 48 hours. 

Like I pointed out over the last month, your system has not yielded more than a 2 game streak...that is immediately followed by a loss or even a 2 game loss.

Compare that with putting a simple prop down down on JJ REDICK the last 9 games...you would be up 9 units with him alone...why is he doing it consistently?  Because Crawford is out and now JJ is a scoring machine...thats some information that deserves a ride...thats helping someone.

Over the last 10 or 11 days you are either at dead even or down. To me, thats a pretty good sample size, the last month of consistent bets is also.  A consistent play on JJ would have yielded 3 times the units you have in just two weeks...one player!!!  And thats if Im only playing one unit per play...I play 2 units every time...so with me JJ is up 18 units...get it?

I already showed my results vs yours...I post a running tally that is updated with each play...fully documented...thats help...thats info...thats a track record.

We can go head to head if you want and see who is on top over the next two weeks...a month...10 days....a week...whatever you want.  They can go short term or long term...whatever...the results and the tally is there for each to make their own decision.  I fail to see how you are helping anyone...to the contrary I think.  

You are expecting people to follow a system that has proven to be highly inconsistent....you simply dont have anything documented to prove that long term plays with you are successful or not.  I would highly discourage anyone from following you under this system.  I would also discourage them from playing Units the way you do...its a loser the way you are doing it....or at least the way you are showing it on here.

Above...someone merely suggested that they were making a small play with some of their profits...you came on put it down...why?  hes gambling...hes making a small play with house money.  YOU DO IT ALL THE TIME.

Its like you are constantly having to show someone is wrong.  Even though you do it all the time.  Playing with profits is the name of the game...the person above didnt say they were going all in with their profits...they were simply making a small with SOME of the profit.  You discouraged, because you always have to give advice to the contrary.  

When the person said they made a small play with their profits, why didnt you come back with some encouragement?...instead, you put them down.  You are a hypocrite and you are being exposed...you will continue to be exposed as long as you continue.  

A computer system...really?  How about doing your own research and making a play that way vs running a bunch of games thru a computer and letting it throw darts?  Would the computer tell you that Crawford is out and Redicks production will pick up?  Thats info you have to get yourself and play accordingly.  I would trust that information and logic over some goon claiming to get plays from some covert "system"...especially when you have a real issue of keeping a documented profit/loss and verifying anything you say.

Trust but verify.  You are asking for trust with no verification...thats like investing with no prospectus...would you advise someone you are close to to venture into an investment like that?  No you wouldnt, but thats exactly what you are doing here.  Thats bad advice from the get go.

holy crap,who the fu.k are you???...and why on earth are you making such ridiculous assumptions??..how do you know wat money management others who may be tailing are using??...who the fu.k would have only 10 units bankroll and if they did obviously its all relative and they should downgrade their unit size accordingly to sumthing like 0.25% per unit,rite??..if not theyre incredibly stupid and should naturally be punished by seeing their bankroll quickly disappear thru horrible money management........and if they were that dumb how the hell is it this guys(itsonnow1) fault??

again,i dont know either of you and have yet to be proven one way or the other whether this guy wins well long term....but how bout letting it play out a bit,not sure on which planet a week or even a month is a definitive sample size.......on that old interview with billy walters he has admitted to many,many losing months so i guess hes trash and youre better than him too,rite??

i agree this guy has come off as arrogant at times in the past....but have a look in the mirror,you are far exceeding him at this point in time....the persona you project is that of a loud-mouth wannabe know-it-all

I can deal with the bashing and criticism, it's fine.  I'm not effected by it. Which is why I can ignore most of your posts easily...but at least, if you're going to trash me, be on point?

Your analysis is a bit off here.  And has been.  First, expecting someone to be ahead every 48 hours, is definitely not professional.  Sports betting is long term.  If you're going to jump back and fourth to every guy whos up now and jump away from a guy whos down now, then you'll never get ahead long term.  How you could possibly think it's ok to say someone is a long term winner or loser based off of 48 hours, or ever a few months, is ridiculous.  I have never made that statement.  I only say what I have done, never what I will DEFINITELY continue to do.

Second.  you are totally off on adding up my units won and lost since starting this thread..  And IN THIS MONTH alone, I went on a 7 day win streak (beginning of the month).

I have been here for a while now and have helped many people make money.  Doesnt matter who wins more this month or that month.  What are you looking for?  Some sort of reward or recognition?  Are you planning on selling picks or something?

Anyway.....best wishes to you.  Do your thing my man! :)

He brought up the ten unit bank roll not me.  But depending on what each's definition of a unit is and watching the posts on here, I would be willing to bet thats pretty close to the norm.

Thats not the point...the point is he is pretty much admiting that the very ones he aspires to help have been hurt.

If you dont know the history, then go dig it up like I did...otherwise, you are of the blind sheep.  You certainly arent going to be able to tell at a glance...he doesnt keep a tally...for a reason...wake up.

You keep missing the point...the point is you dont keep a tally...someone that aspires to be helped and learn would have no idea what the hell is going on here day to day.  So who the hell are you helping.  You could say whatever you want and unless someone wants to dig thru 15 pages every day, they would never know.

Dont make claims that you dont keep a tally on.  People should be able to look at your record daily to see whats going on...that would be the biggest help of all...and thats the one thing you dont do...for a reason.

I said the last 48 hours because its the most recent...I mean is everyone supposed to go back to the beginning of march and tally everything every day to see if your system is crap or what?  I mean this is common sense.  I did it and that would be a lot of work for someone to do daily...thats not help.  This should be an automatic with you...its very simple and courteous...why dont you do it?  Youre supposed to be a pro...that is anything but.

if 10 units is the norm around here and people are playing a unit as 10% of that bankroll then this place is an even bigger joke than i had previously imagined,how could anyone possibly expect to survive doing that??one bad week will have you on your knees or bust...thats quite ludicrous.

ive heard of a few different rules of thumb in various places/forums/sources but the most common is to use a 100 unit bankroll and assign 1% of that per unit...it is conservative but ensures you will stay in the game thru highs AND lows...and of course it can be adjusted upwards as/if it grows so your 1% could be larger next week if you have a profitable run.

i have also heard of using 5% and 2.5% units as long as system is stable and there are very small down-swings.

obviously the other variable is if multi-unit plays are being bet on...unit size should be adjusted down again if that is the case,thats just common sense.

but 10 units??..thats comical to the point of disbelief and this guy(or anyone on site here)cannot be held responsible for sumone losing their shirt playing in that manner.

do you agree or not??..wat is your advice in this regard??

Like for example:

You could have a monthly tally and a overall...that would give short term and long term results, right?  Thats what I do.  People can look right there and see.  But for some odd reason you choose not to do that and after digging for your results myself I can see why:

1.  Your streaks are not really streaks...never more than 2 games straight either way...for the whole month...you currently have more two game losing streaks than you do 2 game win streaks.

2.  You made the bold claim that under this "system" you make "more in one week than most make in annual salary"...then you gave an example of being up 10 units in a week at 5k a unit equaling 50k...I went back on your record here and you dont have any 10 unit weeks!!!  Not even close.

So you encouraged naysayers to go back and look at your record...thats right...fumble through all 15 pages...lol.  Well i did and your full of crap.  You still have not disproven one of my findings and you are still yet to verify even a single one of your claims!!!

LOL...I know your record better than you do.  I know it by the month, the week, the last 10 days, 48 hours...you dont...lol.

First I want to thank you for bringing some logic into all of this!  I applaud your effort!

But we most definitely can ignore him.  He's either got some crazy thing going on?  Or he really is not liking the attention I am drawing away from his thread or his "potentially going tout" picks.  Same goes for anyone that comes in here to bash me....just because you don't like the way I "act"?  Cmon now.  -_-