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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 6:06 PM ET #276

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Could never crack that code.

    take a trip to toronto to the downtown clubs and u should be able to crack that code with relative ease an_tongueout

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Could never crack that code.

    take a trip to toronto to the downtown clubs and u should be able to crack that code with relative ease an_tongueout

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 7:07 PM ET #277

    Better still, go to any restaurant in Markham and make it obvious that you come for dinner for one, but youre leaving for chocolate ice creams and lollipops for two (if you put on your table a box of Chocolate Pocky Sticks, you may have a gangbang on your hands!)

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    Better still, go to any restaurant in Markham and make it obvious that you come for dinner for one, but youre leaving for chocolate ice creams and lollipops for two (if you put on your table a box of Chocolate Pocky Sticks, you may have a gangbang on your hands!)

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2020 - 8:26 PM ET #278

    Italy has a 10% mortality rate..an_timeout

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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2020 - 1:59 AM ET #279

    Are you going to sacrifice yourself for the economy and your grandchildren?

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    Are you going to sacrifice yourself for the economy and your grandchildren?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2020 - 2:37 AM ET #280

    Let's pack churches for Easter!

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    Let's pack churches for Easter!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2020 - 7:04 AM ET #281

    Update:

    54,941 confirmed cases in USA as of 7am EST...predicted to exceed 60k by the 6pm local news  

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    Update:

    54,941 confirmed cases in USA as of 7am EST...predicted to exceed 60k by the 6pm local news  

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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2020 - 12:58 PM ET #282

    Holy cow.

    59,966 confirmed cases in USA as of 12:55pm EST paint_help

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    Holy cow.

    59,966 confirmed cases in USA as of 12:55pm EST paint_help

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2020 - 1:52 PM ET #283

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Holy cow. 59,966 confirmed cases in USA as of 12:55pm EST

     

    Confirmed cases means nothing...It just means more testing is available..95% of people just self quarantine with minimum cold like symptoms ....The mortality rate is the real number, which is low...

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Holy cow. 59,966 confirmed cases in USA as of 12:55pm EST

     

    Confirmed cases means nothing...It just means more testing is available..95% of people just self quarantine with minimum cold like symptoms ....The mortality rate is the real number, which is low...

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2020 - 4:01 PM ET #284

    Like the prof of epidemiology said in the link, you can't figure death rate without testing everybody. That was done of one of the cruise ships which was mostly elderly people and 1% death rate was figured.

     

    Even  worldometers estimates :

     

    85% of 80+ year old age groups SURVIVE. 

    The survival rate approaches 100% at you move closer to lower age groups. Age 10-39 group....99.8% of people survive.

     

    The weather man predicted a huge monsoon(so to speak) and most of the US got a couple of sprinkles on our windshields.

    Not even enough to wash the car..

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    Like the prof of epidemiology said in the link, you can't figure death rate without testing everybody. That was done of one of the cruise ships which was mostly elderly people and 1% death rate was figured.

     

    Even  worldometers estimates :

     

    85% of 80+ year old age groups SURVIVE. 

    The survival rate approaches 100% at you move closer to lower age groups. Age 10-39 group....99.8% of people survive.

     

    The weather man predicted a huge monsoon(so to speak) and most of the US got a couple of sprinkles on our windshields.

    Not even enough to wash the car..

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2020 - 10:05 PM ET #285

    This will be as common as a light bulb in the near future. I've tried to locate a good stock to buy but dead end....

     

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    This will be as common as a light bulb in the near future. I've tried to locate a good stock to buy but dead end....

     

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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 12:44 AM ET #286

    What the is wrong with conservatives? One week of being forced to stay home with their families and they're like, "Well, we can't keep doing that. Looks like we're just gonna have to murder all the old people."

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    What the is wrong with conservatives? One week of being forced to stay home with their families and they're like, "Well, we can't keep doing that. Looks like we're just gonna have to murder all the old people."

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 12:46 AM ET #287

    Just so we're all clear, Trump says he won't use the Defense Protection Act to order companies to make more equipment to save lives because he "doesn’t want to interfere in the free market." Explain to me how bailing out corporations isn't interfering in the free market?

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    Just so we're all clear, Trump says he won't use the Defense Protection Act to order companies to make more equipment to save lives because he "doesn’t want to interfere in the free market." Explain to me how bailing out corporations isn't interfering in the free market?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 2:29 AM ET #288

    Trump is truly incompetent. It's sad.

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    Trump is truly incompetent. It's sad.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 6:05 AM ET #289

    USA likely will have the most confirmed cases in the world by 6pm EST today peace

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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 9:59 AM ET #290

    There is 69,219 Corona cases as of today or 69,219 more than Trump said we’d have have two weeks ago.

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    There is 69,219 Corona cases as of today or 69,219 more than Trump said we’d have have two weeks ago.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 12:30 PM ET #291

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Just so we're all clear, Trump says he won't use the Defense Protection Act to order companies to make more equipment to save lives because he "doesn’t want to interfere in the free market." Explain to me how bailing out corporations isn't interfering in the free market?

    Because those corporations employ millions of americans and boost the economy. if it was not for those corporations America would be nothing. Whether you like it or not 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Just so we're all clear, Trump says he won't use the Defense Protection Act to order companies to make more equipment to save lives because he "doesn’t want to interfere in the free market." Explain to me how bailing out corporations isn't interfering in the free market?

    Because those corporations employ millions of americans and boost the economy. if it was not for those corporations America would be nothing. Whether you like it or not 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 12:37 PM ET #292

    Again Phillip, there is no point talking to an empty beachball like Raider...you will never be able to explain to a mental twit like him that millions upon millions of honest, hard working people rely on the survival of corporations during times like these.

    Leave the snowflake to his own meltdown...its flattering he chooses to follow this thread...maybe his PSW one day will show him where he went wrong in life by analysing all his covers posts

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    Again Phillip, there is no point talking to an empty beachball like Raider...you will never be able to explain to a mental twit like him that millions upon millions of honest, hard working people rely on the survival of corporations during times like these.

    Leave the snowflake to his own meltdown...its flattering he chooses to follow this thread...maybe his PSW one day will show him where he went wrong in life by analysing all his covers posts

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 1:11 PM ET #293

    USA overtakes Italy for #2 in the world peace

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    USA overtakes Italy for #2 in the world peace

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 2:39 PM ET #294

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Again Phillip, there is no point talking to an empty beachball like Raider...you will never be able to explain to a mental twit like him that millions upon millions of honest, hard working people rely on the survival of corporations during times like these. Leave the snowflake to his own meltdown...its flattering he chooses to follow this thread...maybe his PSW one day will show him where he went wrong in life by analysing all his covers posts

    Yeah 100%. You know the one thing I really do not get PB? I keep reading all these people saying it is disgusting that Wall Street and corporations are going to get relief. Its like they are against the American economy being good. Does anyone understand this? I think Democrats hate Trump so much for no reason that now they are almost thankful the economy is going down. That I really really do not understand. 

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    Again Phillip, there is no point talking to an empty beachball like Raider...you will never be able to explain to a mental twit like him that millions upon millions of honest, hard working people rely on the survival of corporations during times like these. Leave the snowflake to his own meltdown...its flattering he chooses to follow this thread...maybe his PSW one day will show him where he went wrong in life by analysing all his covers posts

    Yeah 100%. You know the one thing I really do not get PB? I keep reading all these people saying it is disgusting that Wall Street and corporations are going to get relief. Its like they are against the American economy being good. Does anyone understand this? I think Democrats hate Trump so much for no reason that now they are almost thankful the economy is going down. That I really really do not understand. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 3:18 PM ET #295

    Infectious disease expert estimates death rate by COVID-19 could be as low as 0.2%. That is an estimate of course but he is at least right to some extent that the death rate(when you count all) is not as high as reported in the media.

     

    If he is right about his factor of 10 then the death rate of seasonal flu at 0.1% would then actually be 0.01%

     

     

    latimes(DOT)com/science/story/2020-03-05/flu-killed-more-people-coronavirus-covid-19

     

    "However, experts said the observed COVID-19 death rate is almost certainly an overestimate.

    That’s because the only people being tested for the coronavirus are those showing symptoms of infection. There could be just as many people — and perhaps even more — who have the virus but show no signs of infection, or have symptoms so mild they were not tested.

    Yang said it’s certainly possible that the true number of people who are infected is 10 times greater than the number of people who have confirmed cases of COVID-19. In that case, the true fatality rate would be closer to 0.2%, he said."

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    Infectious disease expert estimates death rate by COVID-19 could be as low as 0.2%. That is an estimate of course but he is at least right to some extent that the death rate(when you count all) is not as high as reported in the media.

     

    If he is right about his factor of 10 then the death rate of seasonal flu at 0.1% would then actually be 0.01%

     

     

    latimes(DOT)com/science/story/2020-03-05/flu-killed-more-people-coronavirus-covid-19

     

    "However, experts said the observed COVID-19 death rate is almost certainly an overestimate.

    That’s because the only people being tested for the coronavirus are those showing symptoms of infection. There could be just as many people — and perhaps even more — who have the virus but show no signs of infection, or have symptoms so mild they were not tested.

    Yang said it’s certainly possible that the true number of people who are infected is 10 times greater than the number of people who have confirmed cases of COVID-19. In that case, the true fatality rate would be closer to 0.2%, he said."

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2020 - 3:31 PM ET #296

    Quote Originally Posted by Qwan61:

    Infectious disease expert estimates death rate by COVID-19 could be as low as 0.2%. That is an estimate of course but he is at least right to some extent that the death rate(when you count all) is not as high as reported in the media.   If he is right about his factor of 10 then the death rate of seasonal flu at 0.1% would then actually be 0.01%     latimes(DOT)com/science/story/2020-03-05/flu-killed-more-people-coronavirus-covid-19   "However, experts said the observed COVID-19 death rate is almost certainly an overestimate. That’s because the only people being tested for the coronavirus are those showing symptoms of infection. There could be just as many people — and perhaps even more — who have the virus but show no signs of infection, or have symptoms so mild they were not tested. Yang said it’s certainly possible that the true number of people who are infected is 10 times greater than the number of people who have confirmed cases of COVID-19. In that case, the true fatality rate would be closer to 0.2%, he said."

    It is much lower. You said people are only being tested if they are showing symptoms. That is true but its worse than that. They are not testing people even if they do have symptoms. They are starting to only test people if you are really really sick or having trouble breathing. Therefore, it makes complete sense that there could easily be millions of people who have/had the virus. That would than make the death rate, specifically in America, closer to 0.1%. Of course that will be hard to find since there are few tests out there. This scenario is complete common sense yet most think it is not true. 

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    Infectious disease expert estimates death rate by COVID-19 could be as low as 0.2%. That is an estimate of course but he is at least right to some extent that the death rate(when you count all) is not as high as reported in the media.   If he is right about his factor of 10 then the death rate of seasonal flu at 0.1% would then actually be 0.01%     latimes(DOT)com/science/story/2020-03-05/flu-killed-more-people-coronavirus-covid-19   "However, experts said the observed COVID-19 death rate is almost certainly an overestimate. That’s because the only people being tested for the coronavirus are those showing symptoms of infection. There could be just as many people — and perhaps even more — who have the virus but show no signs of infection, or have symptoms so mild they were not tested. Yang said it’s certainly possible that the true number of people who are infected is 10 times greater than the number of people who have confirmed cases of COVID-19. In that case, the true fatality rate would be closer to 0.2%, he said."

    It is much lower. You said people are only being tested if they are showing symptoms. That is true but its worse than that. They are not testing people even if they do have symptoms. They are starting to only test people if you are really really sick or having trouble breathing. Therefore, it makes complete sense that there could easily be millions of people who have/had the virus. That would than make the death rate, specifically in America, closer to 0.1%. Of course that will be hard to find since there are few tests out there. This scenario is complete common sense yet most think it is not true. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Again Phillip, there is no point talking to an empty beachball like Raider...you will never be able to explain to a mental twit like him that millions upon millions of honest, hard working people rely on the survival of corporations during times like these. Leave the snowflake to his own meltdown...its flattering he chooses to follow this thread...maybe his PSW one day will show him where he went wrong in life by analysing all his covers posts Yeah 100%. You know the one thing I really do not get PB? I keep reading all these people saying it is disgusting that Wall Street and corporations are going to get relief. Its like they are against the American economy being good. Does anyone understand this? I think Democrats hate Trump so much for no reason that now they are almost thankful the economy is going down. That I really really do not understand.

    All these companies that need bailout money should be scrutinized like big banks and be required meet a stress test going forward.  They are all maxed out debt wise leveraged 8-10 x their earnings..1-2 month and they are all bankrupted and can't pay their bills. Their needs to be bigger oversight.  Instead of buying back stock and increasing their stock prices to please investors like they have been doing while the economy was great last 8 years, they should have kept cash/liquidity on hand.  That is the big problem. No problem with the gov't bailing them out say in 6 -12 months after they have exhausted their reserves.  What we are seeing is most of these companies can't even last a few weeks.. Every time there is a crisis the Gov't will bail out companies because they employ a lot of people and cry to the gov't because business is shit down a few weeks and can't pay their obligations.   When these companies borrow Billions of dollars on wall street to get a loan, they should be required to meet a debt ratio/stress test just like if you were to get a jumbo mortgage...Banks require you to have 12 months of PITI proposed mortgage payments as liquid reserves in order to get a loan.   The same with these companies...they should only be able to borrow a set amount so that if something happens they won't fold in 1-2 months.

    Great example is Tillman Fertita.  He borrowed 1.25 billion at high interest rates against his Golden Nugget, INC company which owns Landry's, which is one of the biggest restaurant chains of companies in the US to buy the Houston Rockets... Now he is saying he can only last 2-3 months to service his debt for Golden Nugget Inc and had to lay off 40,000 workers. The recklessness of Wall Street and Investment Firms lending him this kind of money so he can buy the Rockets is an example.  He will have access to Gov't funds...and most likely will tap into it into it and his company will get bailed out. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Again Phillip, there is no point talking to an empty beachball like Raider...you will never be able to explain to a mental twit like him that millions upon millions of honest, hard working people rely on the survival of corporations during times like these. Leave the snowflake to his own meltdown...its flattering he chooses to follow this thread...maybe his PSW one day will show him where he went wrong in life by analysing all his covers posts Yeah 100%. You know the one thing I really do not get PB? I keep reading all these people saying it is disgusting that Wall Street and corporations are going to get relief. Its like they are against the American economy being good. Does anyone understand this? I think Democrats hate Trump so much for no reason that now they are almost thankful the economy is going down. That I really really do not understand.

    All these companies that need bailout money should be scrutinized like big banks and be required meet a stress test going forward.  They are all maxed out debt wise leveraged 8-10 x their earnings..1-2 month and they are all bankrupted and can't pay their bills. Their needs to be bigger oversight.  Instead of buying back stock and increasing their stock prices to please investors like they have been doing while the economy was great last 8 years, they should have kept cash/liquidity on hand.  That is the big problem. No problem with the gov't bailing them out say in 6 -12 months after they have exhausted their reserves.  What we are seeing is most of these companies can't even last a few weeks.. Every time there is a crisis the Gov't will bail out companies because they employ a lot of people and cry to the gov't because business is shit down a few weeks and can't pay their obligations.   When these companies borrow Billions of dollars on wall street to get a loan, they should be required to meet a debt ratio/stress test just like if you were to get a jumbo mortgage...Banks require you to have 12 months of PITI proposed mortgage payments as liquid reserves in order to get a loan.   The same with these companies...they should only be able to borrow a set amount so that if something happens they won't fold in 1-2 months.

    Great example is Tillman Fertita.  He borrowed 1.25 billion at high interest rates against his Golden Nugget, INC company which owns Landry's, which is one of the biggest restaurant chains of companies in the US to buy the Houston Rockets... Now he is saying he can only last 2-3 months to service his debt for Golden Nugget Inc and had to lay off 40,000 workers. The recklessness of Wall Street and Investment Firms lending him this kind of money so he can buy the Rockets is an example.  He will have access to Gov't funds...and most likely will tap into it into it and his company will get bailed out. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwan61:

    Infectious disease expert estimates death rate by COVID-19 could be as low as 0.2%. That is an estimate of course but he is at least right to some extent that the death rate(when you count all) is not as high as reported in the media.   If he is right about his factor of 10 then the death rate of seasonal flu at 0.1% would then actually be 0.01%     latimes(DOT)com/science/story/2020-03-05/flu-killed-more-people-coronavirus-covid-19   "However, experts said the observed COVID-19 death rate is almost certainly an overestimate. That’s because the only people being tested for the coronavirus are those showing symptoms of infection. There could be just as many people — and perhaps even more — who have the virus but show no signs of infection, or have symptoms so mild they were not tested. Yang said it’s certainly possible that the true number of people who are infected is 10 times greater than the number of people who have confirmed cases of COVID-19. In that case, the true fatality rate would be closer to 0.2%, he said."

    You are 1000% wrong...there are 21 million less cell phone active users in all of China since January 31, 2020...so even if you assume each Chinese person owned 2 phones, then thats 10.5 million people missing...or may we call them the unofficially counted Wuhan Virus victims...so now recalculate that fatality rate of yours adding an extra 10,500,000 corpses an_light

     

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    Infectious disease expert estimates death rate by COVID-19 could be as low as 0.2%. That is an estimate of course but he is at least right to some extent that the death rate(when you count all) is not as high as reported in the media.   If he is right about his factor of 10 then the death rate of seasonal flu at 0.1% would then actually be 0.01%     latimes(DOT)com/science/story/2020-03-05/flu-killed-more-people-coronavirus-covid-19   "However, experts said the observed COVID-19 death rate is almost certainly an overestimate. That’s because the only people being tested for the coronavirus are those showing symptoms of infection. There could be just as many people — and perhaps even more — who have the virus but show no signs of infection, or have symptoms so mild they were not tested. Yang said it’s certainly possible that the true number of people who are infected is 10 times greater than the number of people who have confirmed cases of COVID-19. In that case, the true fatality rate would be closer to 0.2%, he said."

    You are 1000% wrong...there are 21 million less cell phone active users in all of China since January 31, 2020...so even if you assume each Chinese person owned 2 phones, then thats 10.5 million people missing...or may we call them the unofficially counted Wuhan Virus victims...so now recalculate that fatality rate of yours adding an extra 10,500,000 corpses an_light

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Again Phillip, there is no point talking to an empty beachball like Raider...you will never be able to explain to a mental twit like him that millions upon millions of honest, hard working people rely on the survival of corporations during times like these. Leave the snowflake to his own meltdown...its flattering he chooses to follow this thread...maybe his PSW one day will show him where he went wrong in life by analysing all his covers posts Yeah 100%. You know the one thing I really do not get PB? I keep reading all these people saying it is disgusting that Wall Street and corporations are going to get relief. Its like they are against the American economy being good. Does anyone understand this? I think Democrats hate Trump so much for no reason that now they are almost thankful the economy is going down. That I really really do not understand.

    Its the classic example of biting off your nose to spite your face...America was swimming in a pool of gravy from all the profits EVERYONE was making in the market, yet the left agenda has always been willing to sacrifice the econony for their pursuit to dump trump...and now they are left scrambling, forced to back a walking hair smelling buick driving old spice wearing soon to be creepy corpse who doesnt even know how to communicate via social media during his isolation timeout in his basement, blaming bad lighting in response to the #whereisjoe campaign...good luck CNN, hope you stocked up on all your mental meds

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Again Phillip, there is no point talking to an empty beachball like Raider...you will never be able to explain to a mental twit like him that millions upon millions of honest, hard working people rely on the survival of corporations during times like these. Leave the snowflake to his own meltdown...its flattering he chooses to follow this thread...maybe his PSW one day will show him where he went wrong in life by analysing all his covers posts Yeah 100%. You know the one thing I really do not get PB? I keep reading all these people saying it is disgusting that Wall Street and corporations are going to get relief. Its like they are against the American economy being good. Does anyone understand this? I think Democrats hate Trump so much for no reason that now they are almost thankful the economy is going down. That I really really do not understand.

    Its the classic example of biting off your nose to spite your face...America was swimming in a pool of gravy from all the profits EVERYONE was making in the market, yet the left agenda has always been willing to sacrifice the econony for their pursuit to dump trump...and now they are left scrambling, forced to back a walking hair smelling buick driving old spice wearing soon to be creepy corpse who doesnt even know how to communicate via social media during his isolation timeout in his basement, blaming bad lighting in response to the #whereisjoe campaign...good luck CNN, hope you stocked up on all your mental meds

     
     
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