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    Celtics/Raptors GM 1 East Semis

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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 3:05 AM ET #1

    BOSTON – For the first time in history, the Boston Celtics and the Toronto Raptors will face off in the NBA Playoffs. It should be worth the wait.

    These two teams are very evenly matched. Toronto won 53 regular-season games, while Boston won 48. Boston won three of the four regular-season meetings between the teams, although one win was decided by only six points.

    Both teams have veteran, All-Star point guards in Kemba Walker and Kyle Lowry. Both teams also rely heavily on versatility and feature up-and-coming stars, with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown on Boston’s side and Pascal Siakam and Fred VanVleet on Toronto’s side.

    Let’s take a closer look at some of the most important aspects of the series that will tip off at 1 p.m. Sunday afternoon.

     

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    BOSTON – For the first time in history, the Boston Celtics and the Toronto Raptors will face off in the NBA Playoffs. It should be worth the wait.

    These two teams are very evenly matched. Toronto won 53 regular-season games, while Boston won 48. Boston won three of the four regular-season meetings between the teams, although one win was decided by only six points.

    Both teams have veteran, All-Star point guards in Kemba Walker and Kyle Lowry. Both teams also rely heavily on versatility and feature up-and-coming stars, with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown on Boston’s side and Pascal Siakam and Fred VanVleet on Toronto’s side.

    Let’s take a closer look at some of the most important aspects of the series that will tip off at 1 p.m. Sunday afternoon.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 3:06 AM ET #2

    Hayward Out, Lowry TBD

    The Celtics, unfortunately, know that they will almost certainly be without Gordon Hayward, who sprained his right ankle during Game 1 of the opening round, until the week of Sept. 14. That would extend beyond the Game 7 of this series.

    A sprained ankle bit the Raptors during the first round as well, as Kyle Lowry exited Toronto’s Game 4 victory over Brooklyn on Sunday with a left ankle sprain. Toronto has been very coy about Lowry’s health ever since. Lowry was said to have participated in Saturday's practice, but he is officially listed as "questionable" for Game 1.


    Boston has already played an entire series without Hayward and is fully aware of and adjusted to how the team must operate without him. The same cannot be said about the Raptors with Lowry, as Toronto played 21 of its last 22 full-roster games with Lowry in the lineup (this discounts Toronto’s final seeding game, during which it rested its top players).

     

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    Hayward Out, Lowry TBD

    The Celtics, unfortunately, know that they will almost certainly be without Gordon Hayward, who sprained his right ankle during Game 1 of the opening round, until the week of Sept. 14. That would extend beyond the Game 7 of this series.

    A sprained ankle bit the Raptors during the first round as well, as Kyle Lowry exited Toronto’s Game 4 victory over Brooklyn on Sunday with a left ankle sprain. Toronto has been very coy about Lowry’s health ever since. Lowry was said to have participated in Saturday's practice, but he is officially listed as "questionable" for Game 1.


    Boston has already played an entire series without Hayward and is fully aware of and adjusted to how the team must operate without him. The same cannot be said about the Raptors with Lowry, as Toronto played 21 of its last 22 full-roster games with Lowry in the lineup (this discounts Toronto’s final seeding game, during which it rested its top players).

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 3:07 AM ET #3

    Ball Movement Will Be Key

    Boston played a lot of isolation ball and took a lot of mid-range jumpers against Philadelphia during the first round. That isn’t gonna cut it against what Brian Scalabrine recently called the best defense in the league from the Raptors.
    There is proof from the regular season with regard to what works and what doesn’t against Toronto’s defense. During Boston’s three wins over the Raptors, it logged an average of 24.7 assists per game. During its one loss to the Raps, it tallied just 18 helpers.

    The Celtics need to drive, kick, and drive again against Toronto. If they don’t, and also lack ball movement, it’s going to be tough to win games.

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    Ball Movement Will Be Key

    Boston played a lot of isolation ball and took a lot of mid-range jumpers against Philadelphia during the first round. That isn’t gonna cut it against what Brian Scalabrine recently called the best defense in the league from the Raptors.
    There is proof from the regular season with regard to what works and what doesn’t against Toronto’s defense. During Boston’s three wins over the Raptors, it logged an average of 24.7 assists per game. During its one loss to the Raps, it tallied just 18 helpers.

    The Celtics need to drive, kick, and drive again against Toronto. If they don’t, and also lack ball movement, it’s going to be tough to win games.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 3:07 AM ET #4

    This Round Is a Different Beast

    Both the Celtics and the Raptors swept their opponent out of the Playoffs with relative ease during the first round. There is no question that this round will be a far different beast of a challenge for each team.


    From Boston’s perspective, Philadelphia lacked skill, organization and effective defense during the first round. Toronto, on the other hand, is loaded with skill and shooters, it is one of the most well-coached teams in the league, and it ranked as the second-best defense in the league during the regular season.

     

    From the other side of the conversation, the Raptors just took on a Brooklyn team that did not feature a single star on its active roster, its defense did not provide much resistance, and it was coached by an interim coach. Boston, meanwhile, has three stars in Tatum, Brown and Walker plus an All-Defensive Team performer in Marcus Smart, it ranked fourth in the league in defensive rating, and its coach, Brad Stevens, is regarded as one of the top tacticians in the league.

     

    Long story short? These two teams are in for a hefty challenge after breezing through the first round.

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    This Round Is a Different Beast

    Both the Celtics and the Raptors swept their opponent out of the Playoffs with relative ease during the first round. There is no question that this round will be a far different beast of a challenge for each team.


    From Boston’s perspective, Philadelphia lacked skill, organization and effective defense during the first round. Toronto, on the other hand, is loaded with skill and shooters, it is one of the most well-coached teams in the league, and it ranked as the second-best defense in the league during the regular season.

     

    From the other side of the conversation, the Raptors just took on a Brooklyn team that did not feature a single star on its active roster, its defense did not provide much resistance, and it was coached by an interim coach. Boston, meanwhile, has three stars in Tatum, Brown and Walker plus an All-Defensive Team performer in Marcus Smart, it ranked fourth in the league in defensive rating, and its coach, Brad Stevens, is regarded as one of the top tacticians in the league.

     

    Long story short? These two teams are in for a hefty challenge after breezing through the first round.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 3:08 AM ET #5

     

    Battle of the Emerging Stars

    Tatum and Siakam are viewed as two of the most promising young players in the league. Although Siakam is four years Tatum’s senior, he is only one NBA season ahead of Tatum in his career.

     

    Their numbers from the regular season are eerily similar. Tatum averaged 23.4 points, 7.0 rebounds, 3.0 assists and 1.4 steals per game during the regular season. Siakam, meanwhile, averaged 22.9 points, 7.3 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 1.0 steals per game during the regular season.

    For context as to how they fared against each other during the regular season, Tatum averaged 16.5 points, 7.0 rebounds, 4.5 assists and 2.0 steals per game while logging his best plus/minus rating against any opponent, at plus-24. Siakam, meanwhile, logged his lowest plus/minus against Boston of any opponent at minus-21 while averaging 22.0 points, 5.0 rebounds and 1.0 assists per game against the Celtics.

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    Battle of the Emerging Stars

    Tatum and Siakam are viewed as two of the most promising young players in the league. Although Siakam is four years Tatum’s senior, he is only one NBA season ahead of Tatum in his career.

     

    Their numbers from the regular season are eerily similar. Tatum averaged 23.4 points, 7.0 rebounds, 3.0 assists and 1.4 steals per game during the regular season. Siakam, meanwhile, averaged 22.9 points, 7.3 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 1.0 steals per game during the regular season.

    For context as to how they fared against each other during the regular season, Tatum averaged 16.5 points, 7.0 rebounds, 4.5 assists and 2.0 steals per game while logging his best plus/minus rating against any opponent, at plus-24. Siakam, meanwhile, logged his lowest plus/minus against Boston of any opponent at minus-21 while averaging 22.0 points, 5.0 rebounds and 1.0 assists per game against the Celtics.

     
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    Defending the 3-Point Line

    Each team’s ability to defend the 3-point line will be critical to its success during this series. The reason? Both teams are loaded with players who shoot it at a high clip from long range.

    Five Celtics who are on the active roster shot at least 36.3 percent from beyond the arc during the regular season. That crew doesn’t include Marcus Smart, who shot a solid 34.7 percent on 3s, and Grant Williams, who since missing the first 25 3-pointers of his career through Dec. 6 has made 37.3 percent of his attempts. Williams has made seven of his 15 attempts since the season resumed July 31.

    Every player at the top of Toronto’s rotation shoots it well from 3-point range. Its top seven players in terms of minutes played all shot at least 35.2 percent from long range during the regular season, led by Normal Powell’s 39.9 percent clip. VanVleet, who made 19 treys during four first-round games, was right behind Powell at 39.0 percent.

    Make no mistake about it: the 3-point shot will be critical to this series. Both teams can shoot it, and both teams can defend it. 

     

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    Defending the 3-Point Line

    Each team’s ability to defend the 3-point line will be critical to its success during this series. The reason? Both teams are loaded with players who shoot it at a high clip from long range.

    Five Celtics who are on the active roster shot at least 36.3 percent from beyond the arc during the regular season. That crew doesn’t include Marcus Smart, who shot a solid 34.7 percent on 3s, and Grant Williams, who since missing the first 25 3-pointers of his career through Dec. 6 has made 37.3 percent of his attempts. Williams has made seven of his 15 attempts since the season resumed July 31.

    Every player at the top of Toronto’s rotation shoots it well from 3-point range. Its top seven players in terms of minutes played all shot at least 35.2 percent from long range during the regular season, led by Normal Powell’s 39.9 percent clip. VanVleet, who made 19 treys during four first-round games, was right behind Powell at 39.0 percent.

    Make no mistake about it: the 3-point shot will be critical to this series. Both teams can shoot it, and both teams can defend it. 

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 4:23 AM ET #7

        A lot of verbosity but no pick...   confused

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        A lot of verbosity but no pick...   confused

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 5:10 AM ET #8

    he could still be thinkin about it lol

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    he could still be thinkin about it lol

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 6:23 AM ET #9

    I would be mind blown if Toronto won... If the NBA wants the ECF to be the lowest rated ECF in NBA history, they will have the Raps win.. Bucks/Raps last year drew terrible ratings, it would draw even lower ratings this year

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    I would be mind blown if Toronto won... If the NBA wants the ECF to be the lowest rated ECF in NBA history, they will have the Raps win.. Bucks/Raps last year drew terrible ratings, it would draw even lower ratings this year

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 6:58 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:

    A lot of verbosity but no pick...
    Quote Originally Posted by SiuLungBao:

    he could still be thinkin about it lol

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:

    A lot of verbosity but no pick...
    Quote Originally Posted by SiuLungBao:

    he could still be thinkin about it lol

     

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 9:58 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:

    A lot of verbosity but no pick...

    Maybe he's laying out the info for the game for others to make their own decision. This is more valuable then just giving a pick with no reason what is mostly found here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drifter44:

    A lot of verbosity but no pick...

    Maybe he's laying out the info for the game for others to make their own decision. This is more valuable then just giving a pick with no reason what is mostly found here.

     
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    As a life long raptors fan I am nervous for them in this match-up. Preseason I had a future bet for Boston to win Atlantic and the division game down to a nail bitter. At start of playoffs I took futures on TOR and BOS EC champions as these are the 2 best teams in the East imo. Boston took 3 out of 4 games this year and overall have a more talented roster. Kemba is better than Lowry, Tatum is better than Siakam, Brown is better than Vanfleet. Over a 7 game series it will be tough for the starters to match Boston step for step. Bench wise both are talented and give superior effort every time. There will be no restriction on player minutes and may see any of Kemba/Tatum/Brown kept in on the floor with the bench crew always having a threat. Nick Nurse will have to really get the most out of his squad to get this going. My lean is Boston for the series.

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    As a life long raptors fan I am nervous for them in this match-up. Preseason I had a future bet for Boston to win Atlantic and the division game down to a nail bitter. At start of playoffs I took futures on TOR and BOS EC champions as these are the 2 best teams in the East imo. Boston took 3 out of 4 games this year and overall have a more talented roster. Kemba is better than Lowry, Tatum is better than Siakam, Brown is better than Vanfleet. Over a 7 game series it will be tough for the starters to match Boston step for step. Bench wise both are talented and give superior effort every time. There will be no restriction on player minutes and may see any of Kemba/Tatum/Brown kept in on the floor with the bench crew always having a threat. Nick Nurse will have to really get the most out of his squad to get this going. My lean is Boston for the series.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 11:01 AM ET #13

    take celtics peace_5

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    take celtics peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 11:05 AM ET #14

    Boston Toronto 109 110 raptor. Easily an over time game. Over and Boston m/l is my selection.

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    Boston Toronto 109 110 raptor. Easily an over time game. Over and Boston m/l is my selection.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 12:01 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Seymourbukz:

    Defending the 3-Point Line Each team’s ability to defend the 3-point line will be critical to its success during this series. The reason? Both teams are loaded with players who shoot it at a high clip from long range. Five Celtics who are on the active roster shot at least 36.3 percent from beyond the arc during the regular season. That crew doesn’t include Marcus Smart, who shot a solid 34.7 percent on 3s, and Grant Williams, who since missing the first 25 3-pointers of his career through Dec. 6 has made 37.3 percent of his attempts. Williams has made seven of his 15 attempts since the season resumed July 31. Every player at the top of Toronto’s rotation shoots it well from 3-point range. Its top seven players in terms of minutes played all shot at least 35.2 percent from long range during the regular season, led by Normal Powell’s 39.9 percent clip. VanVleet, who made 19 treys during four first-round games, was right behind Powell at 39.0 percent. Make no mistake about it: the 3-point shot will be critical to this series. Both teams can shoot it, and both teams can defend it.

     

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    NBA should hiring you with all this writing 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seymourbukz:

    Defending the 3-Point Line Each team’s ability to defend the 3-point line will be critical to its success during this series. The reason? Both teams are loaded with players who shoot it at a high clip from long range. Five Celtics who are on the active roster shot at least 36.3 percent from beyond the arc during the regular season. That crew doesn’t include Marcus Smart, who shot a solid 34.7 percent on 3s, and Grant Williams, who since missing the first 25 3-pointers of his career through Dec. 6 has made 37.3 percent of his attempts. Williams has made seven of his 15 attempts since the season resumed July 31. Every player at the top of Toronto’s rotation shoots it well from 3-point range. Its top seven players in terms of minutes played all shot at least 35.2 percent from long range during the regular season, led by Normal Powell’s 39.9 percent clip. VanVleet, who made 19 treys during four first-round games, was right behind Powell at 39.0 percent. Make no mistake about it: the 3-point shot will be critical to this series. Both teams can shoot it, and both teams can defend it.

     

    NBAyou

     

    NBA should hiring you with all this writing 

    new_laugh_cry

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 12:17 PM ET #16

    This will be a competitive series . Tread lightly 

    Celtics FH +1 

    Over FH 106 

    Over 1Q 53 

     

    Celtics +6.5 // Over 212 

    Celtics +6.5 // Clippers-6.5

     

     

     

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    This will be a competitive series . Tread lightly 

    Celtics FH +1 

    Over FH 106 

    Over 1Q 53 

     

    Celtics +6.5 // Over 212 

    Celtics +6.5 // Clippers-6.5

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 12:25 PM ET #17

    The Raptors struggled against good teams from what I remember? ( besides the Lakers of course)  The Celtics were 3 and 1 during the season vs the Raptors and I think the Celtics have a good chance to win the East..peace_5  I got the Celtics to win the series 

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    The Raptors struggled against good teams from what I remember? ( besides the Lakers of course)  The Celtics were 3 and 1 during the season vs the Raptors and I think the Celtics have a good chance to win the East..peace_5  I got the Celtics to win the series 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 1:01 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcmanus:

    The Raptors struggled against good teams from what I remember? ( besides the Lakers of course)  The Celtics were 3 and 1 during the season vs the Raptors and I think the Celtics have a good chance to win the East..  I got the Celtics to win the series

    I like them in 6 games .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcmanus:

    The Raptors struggled against good teams from what I remember? ( besides the Lakers of course)  The Celtics were 3 and 1 during the season vs the Raptors and I think the Celtics have a good chance to win the East..  I got the Celtics to win the series

    I like them in 6 games .

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2020 - 1:48 PM ET #19

    I like that first quarter Boston !!!clover

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    I like that first quarter Boston !!!clover

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