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    Cavs Championship futures ticketholders?Save yourself the grief and put those babies in the shredder

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    fadeORdie
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2015 - 12:43 AM ET #551

    Congratulations to Warriors backers.

    Congratulations to Cavs futures backers - that was a good bet - let me in on the know next time 
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    Congratulations to Warriors backers.

    Congratulations to Cavs futures backers - that was a good bet - let me in on the know next time 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2015 - 1:03 AM ET #552

    Well folks, you better believe there will be a big swinging dic* strolling up in this thread. And that swinging dic*... is mine.

    This thread originally started out as a rant about all the 30-1 futures holders who were dancing in the Vegas streets like they already won something after Lebron came and the odds plummeted to 3-1.

    Well just as I said in the OP, the team was wildly flawed and just as I said throughout this thread, Lebron did not win in his first year in Miami with a better cast and he wouldn't win here.

    Then you have the "Well look at all the injuries!" troglodytes.

    And I retort with, "Well look at all the key players that the league's bottom-feeders handed to the Cavs to make up for all their deficiencies."

    And it was those very players that kept them IN the running, not take them out.

    Did bad luck bite them in the end? Of course. But Lebron should think twice before he decides to flop wildly headfirst into a cameraman as well, furthering his team's 'hospital-gown' state.

    And to all those who said this money was GUARANTEED!!!!

    What was GUARANTEED!!???! And how much was guaranteed anyway to hoot and holler about it???

    I begged and pleaded for someone, anyone, on the biggest gambling site in the world to tell me they hedged out during the season like Rangerz suggested. We didn't find A SINGLE POSTER in a thread of near 16,000 view and near 600 responses who did that.

    We found ONE GUY who actually bought a $400 ticket at 28-1 and he worsened his situation BY HEDGING (not his fault) and ultimately made a 21% rate of return. WOW. . Look all the hedgers dancing in the street. On top of that, he needed a whopping $5,500 to get that 21% return. Most guys here are DOWN $5,500 or more and would be able to do no such thing.

    So to my rant in the OP and comments throughout the thread, I said the Cavs WOULD NOT WIN. Why? Because of all the pomposity and hysteria that surrounded Lebron coming to Cleveland overshadowing a flawed team (and a rookie coach to boot).

    And now we recognize the trolls who DESPERATELY kept this thread alive, as they always do, in an effort to make me look bad. Trolls like:

    BWS77 - A raging bigot in general discussion who cares about the black male in one way and one way only...on the hardwood where he can make money off them. Otherwise, they can all disappear in his eyes.

    Trolls like:

    joepa510

    RodWoman

    FADEORIDE

    Three of the least most respected covers members in the NBA Forum, the NFL forum or MLB forum. Hell, they wouldn't even find respect in the Website Promotions forum.

    And finally,

    VEGASVANDAL

    A guy who lost 7 straight bets in one thread and has the audacity to criticize me about COMMENTARY (not a bet folks, commentary) concerning Coach K.

    Yes, folks, you will get a roll call of trolls when you are dealing with me.

    So to finish up...

    $100 30-1 bettors (the overwhelming majority of you) who let it ride?

    Your tickets are IN THE SHREDDER.

    3-1 bettors? All your tickets are surely in the shredders (try hedging out at -220 to start the series and -700 after game 1).

    To the 1% that actually profited something, nice job. Vegas made MORE than enough off all the tickets that found their way to the shredder to pay your behind**s.

    Another day, another dollar, another troll bloodbath...

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    Well folks, you better believe there will be a big swinging dic* strolling up in this thread. And that swinging dic*... is mine.

    This thread originally started out as a rant about all the 30-1 futures holders who were dancing in the Vegas streets like they already won something after Lebron came and the odds plummeted to 3-1.

    Well just as I said in the OP, the team was wildly flawed and just as I said throughout this thread, Lebron did not win in his first year in Miami with a better cast and he wouldn't win here.

    Then you have the "Well look at all the injuries!" troglodytes.

    And I retort with, "Well look at all the key players that the league's bottom-feeders handed to the Cavs to make up for all their deficiencies."

    And it was those very players that kept them IN the running, not take them out.

    Did bad luck bite them in the end? Of course. But Lebron should think twice before he decides to flop wildly headfirst into a cameraman as well, furthering his team's 'hospital-gown' state.

    And to all those who said this money was GUARANTEED!!!!

    What was GUARANTEED!!???! And how much was guaranteed anyway to hoot and holler about it???

    I begged and pleaded for someone, anyone, on the biggest gambling site in the world to tell me they hedged out during the season like Rangerz suggested. We didn't find A SINGLE POSTER in a thread of near 16,000 view and near 600 responses who did that.

    We found ONE GUY who actually bought a $400 ticket at 28-1 and he worsened his situation BY HEDGING (not his fault) and ultimately made a 21% rate of return. WOW. . Look all the hedgers dancing in the street. On top of that, he needed a whopping $5,500 to get that 21% return. Most guys here are DOWN $5,500 or more and would be able to do no such thing.

    So to my rant in the OP and comments throughout the thread, I said the Cavs WOULD NOT WIN. Why? Because of all the pomposity and hysteria that surrounded Lebron coming to Cleveland overshadowing a flawed team (and a rookie coach to boot).

    And now we recognize the trolls who DESPERATELY kept this thread alive, as they always do, in an effort to make me look bad. Trolls like:

    BWS77 - A raging bigot in general discussion who cares about the black male in one way and one way only...on the hardwood where he can make money off them. Otherwise, they can all disappear in his eyes.

    Trolls like:

    joepa510

    RodWoman

    FADEORIDE

    Three of the least most respected covers members in the NBA Forum, the NFL forum or MLB forum. Hell, they wouldn't even find respect in the Website Promotions forum.

    And finally,

    VEGASVANDAL

    A guy who lost 7 straight bets in one thread and has the audacity to criticize me about COMMENTARY (not a bet folks, commentary) concerning Coach K.

    Yes, folks, you will get a roll call of trolls when you are dealing with me.

    So to finish up...

    $100 30-1 bettors (the overwhelming majority of you) who let it ride?

    Your tickets are IN THE SHREDDER.

    3-1 bettors? All your tickets are surely in the shredders (try hedging out at -220 to start the series and -700 after game 1).

    To the 1% that actually profited something, nice job. Vegas made MORE than enough off all the tickets that found their way to the shredder to pay your behind**s.

    Another day, another dollar, another troll bloodbath...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2015 - 1:13 AM ET #553

    You do realize that membership of Covers forum is only 0.01% of the entire betting population?

    There are hundreds of thousands of bettors out there in the world who took Cavs at 30-1, ranging from USD $5 to $50,000 (if not more).

    So, I say again - congratulations to those who took Cavs at 30-1. It was a solid bet, no matter how much this clown called scalabrine may twist and warp his mind to think otherwise.
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    You do realize that membership of Covers forum is only 0.01% of the entire betting population?

    There are hundreds of thousands of bettors out there in the world who took Cavs at 30-1, ranging from USD $5 to $50,000 (if not more).

    So, I say again - congratulations to those who took Cavs at 30-1. It was a solid bet, no matter how much this clown called scalabrine may twist and warp his mind to think otherwise.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2015 - 1:29 AM ET #554

    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    You do realize that membership of Covers forum is only 0.01% of the entire betting population?

    There are hundreds of thousands of bettors out there in the world who took Cavs at 30-1, ranging from USD $5 to $50,000 (if not more).

    So, I say again - congratulations to those who took Cavs at 30-1. It was a solid bet, no matter how much this clown called scalabrine may twist and warp his mind to think otherwise.

    Yes, yes, hundreds of thousands of bettors took that 30-1 bet. You really know what you are talking about. I'm sure the odds would have stayed at 30-1 if hundreds of thousands of bettors bet the Cavs at those long odds.

    And what a solid bet it was...It met the shredder in the end.

    And like every losing degenerate gambler, if they hedged out before the finals, they added to the money needed necessary to hedge out in the finals, which WAS AT THE WORST POSSIBLE TIME with the WORST ODDS to hedge by far.

    Again, there was ONE GUY here, ONE who put $400 on it and to make 21%....TWENTY ONE PERCENT OVER THE COURSE OF EIGHT MONTHS, he needed $5,500 to get him that 21%. If he doesn't have that $5,500? Poof, like all the rest, just shredded bets.

    And to this notion it was a good bet anyway? It was a WILD gamble.

    Lebron had to come to Cleveland and Love had to be traded for without any big assets outside of Wiggins being moved. Then the old legs they brought in were worthless. The Knicks and Nuggets saved their season and their lack of bench eventually proved to be their demise as they leaned heavily on their starters and the injury bug bit them.

    All in all, that 30-1 bet was a lottery tickets...and it is up in smoke tonight in the Cosmos, save a precious few who got some ashtray money back compared to dreams of 10K 20K or 30K.....LOL....yeah, those amounts are not being paid tonight in any way/shape/form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    You do realize that membership of Covers forum is only 0.01% of the entire betting population?

    There are hundreds of thousands of bettors out there in the world who took Cavs at 30-1, ranging from USD $5 to $50,000 (if not more).

    So, I say again - congratulations to those who took Cavs at 30-1. It was a solid bet, no matter how much this clown called scalabrine may twist and warp his mind to think otherwise.

    Yes, yes, hundreds of thousands of bettors took that 30-1 bet. You really know what you are talking about. I'm sure the odds would have stayed at 30-1 if hundreds of thousands of bettors bet the Cavs at those long odds.

    And what a solid bet it was...It met the shredder in the end.

    And like every losing degenerate gambler, if they hedged out before the finals, they added to the money needed necessary to hedge out in the finals, which WAS AT THE WORST POSSIBLE TIME with the WORST ODDS to hedge by far.

    Again, there was ONE GUY here, ONE who put $400 on it and to make 21%....TWENTY ONE PERCENT OVER THE COURSE OF EIGHT MONTHS, he needed $5,500 to get him that 21%. If he doesn't have that $5,500? Poof, like all the rest, just shredded bets.

    And to this notion it was a good bet anyway? It was a WILD gamble.

    Lebron had to come to Cleveland and Love had to be traded for without any big assets outside of Wiggins being moved. Then the old legs they brought in were worthless. The Knicks and Nuggets saved their season and their lack of bench eventually proved to be their demise as they leaned heavily on their starters and the injury bug bit them.

    All in all, that 30-1 bet was a lottery tickets...and it is up in smoke tonight in the Cosmos, save a precious few who got some ashtray money back compared to dreams of 10K 20K or 30K.....LOL....yeah, those amounts are not being paid tonight in any way/shape/form.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2015 - 2:19 AM ET #555

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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2015 - 3:18 AM ET #556

    Scal a dignified silence might have been a stronger retort

    But we need not agree on everything

    Look forward to some highly selected picks in the NFL shortly

    Best wishes to all those who offered something coherent no matter what your view....
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    Scal a dignified silence might have been a stronger retort

    But we need not agree on everything

    Look forward to some highly selected picks in the NFL shortly

    Best wishes to all those who offered something coherent no matter what your view....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2015 - 3:30 AM ET #557

    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    You do realize that membership of Covers forum is only 0.01% of the entire betting population?

    There are hundreds of thousands of bettors out there in the world who took Cavs at 30-1, ranging from USD $5 to $50,000 (if not more).

    So, I say again - congratulations to those who took Cavs at 30-1. It was a solid bet, no matter how much this clown called scalabrine may twist and warp his mind to think otherwise.


    Wow, this is the biggest head-scratching comment I've read in a long while. I am almost speechless.

    Hundred of thousands took the Cavs at 30-1?

    You have some serious numbers issues. That's why you keep telling us that you made tons of cash fading scal when he was actually around 50% and above 50% the year before.

    You sent congratulations to people who hold a losing ticket, but when scal lost on the Giants -3 @ Jacksonville, or because of Geno Smith throwing a last-minute pick-six against the Broncos, you were the one laughing.

    "This is the last time I'll post on this thread. I hope you're happy." - fadeORdie

    How about a man's word?


    Scal just said that the Cavs won't win the championship in 2015, that they won't beat a good team from the Western Conference in a seven-game-series. Because of that, he said that people holding a 30-1 ticket, can only make money IF they hedge out and can only make a solid return IF they hedge out at solid odds.

    FACT 1: the Cavaliers lost 2-4 against the Warriors and one of those wins came on an overtime win by shooting 32.2% from the field. Remember, even the Sixers averaged 40.8% from the field during the regular season. The Raptors couldn't win any playoff game while shooting 41.6%. Would be interesting to see how many teams have won in the past while shooting below 33%.

    FACT 2: While there are so many people hating on scal, only ONE guy in this thread posted that he hedged a bit out of his 30-1 ticket. So there is only one guy on here who can give us a proof that he won money off that 30-1 or 28-1 ticket, but there are 24 pages of hating on scal.

    FACT 3: Those 30-1 tickets were put in the shredder.

    Everyone who disagrees on this, either has a below-average IQ or hates scal so much as a virtual person that he can't be objective enough to give him credit.

    Compared to a Formula 1 race, scal was the leader in 70 out of 72 rounds.






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    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    You do realize that membership of Covers forum is only 0.01% of the entire betting population?

    There are hundreds of thousands of bettors out there in the world who took Cavs at 30-1, ranging from USD $5 to $50,000 (if not more).

    So, I say again - congratulations to those who took Cavs at 30-1. It was a solid bet, no matter how much this clown called scalabrine may twist and warp his mind to think otherwise.


    Wow, this is the biggest head-scratching comment I've read in a long while. I am almost speechless.

    Hundred of thousands took the Cavs at 30-1?

    You have some serious numbers issues. That's why you keep telling us that you made tons of cash fading scal when he was actually around 50% and above 50% the year before.

    You sent congratulations to people who hold a losing ticket, but when scal lost on the Giants -3 @ Jacksonville, or because of Geno Smith throwing a last-minute pick-six against the Broncos, you were the one laughing.

    "This is the last time I'll post on this thread. I hope you're happy." - fadeORdie

    How about a man's word?


    Scal just said that the Cavs won't win the championship in 2015, that they won't beat a good team from the Western Conference in a seven-game-series. Because of that, he said that people holding a 30-1 ticket, can only make money IF they hedge out and can only make a solid return IF they hedge out at solid odds.

    FACT 1: the Cavaliers lost 2-4 against the Warriors and one of those wins came on an overtime win by shooting 32.2% from the field. Remember, even the Sixers averaged 40.8% from the field during the regular season. The Raptors couldn't win any playoff game while shooting 41.6%. Would be interesting to see how many teams have won in the past while shooting below 33%.

    FACT 2: While there are so many people hating on scal, only ONE guy in this thread posted that he hedged a bit out of his 30-1 ticket. So there is only one guy on here who can give us a proof that he won money off that 30-1 or 28-1 ticket, but there are 24 pages of hating on scal.

    FACT 3: Those 30-1 tickets were put in the shredder.

    Everyone who disagrees on this, either has a below-average IQ or hates scal so much as a virtual person that he can't be objective enough to give him credit.

    Compared to a Formula 1 race, scal was the leader in 70 out of 72 rounds.






     
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    @suuma - I don't know which dark little hole you came crawling out of but you sound like a typical yankee that thinks USA is the only country in the world. Do you know what the global population is and that "hundreds of thousands of people" in the scheme of things is a very very small percentage? Do you know that sports betting in the US only makes up 20-25% of the global betting population? You must not get out much from your 2x2 basement, I can clearly see that "hundreds of thousands" is a number so astronomical for you 

    Also, seems like I have a fanboy that is you. Remembering things that I don't even recall. 
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    @suuma - I don't know which dark little hole you came crawling out of but you sound like a typical yankee that thinks USA is the only country in the world. Do you know what the global population is and that "hundreds of thousands of people" in the scheme of things is a very very small percentage? Do you know that sports betting in the US only makes up 20-25% of the global betting population? You must not get out much from your 2x2 basement, I can clearly see that "hundreds of thousands" is a number so astronomical for you 

    Also, seems like I have a fanboy that is you. Remembering things that I don't even recall. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    @suuma - I don't know which dark little hole you came crawling out of but you sound like a typical yankee that thinks USA is the only country in the world. Do you know what the global population is and that "hundreds of thousands of people" in the scheme of things is a very very small percentage? Do you know that sports betting in the US only makes up 20-25% of the global betting population? You must not get out much from your 2x2 basement, I can clearly see that "hundreds of thousands" is a number so astronomical for you 

    Also, seems like I have a fanboy that is you. Remembering things that I don't even recall. 


    I just remember that you hate on scal in every single thread when he posts a losing pick - so you most probably did in those threads. Those are games I quickly remembered. You are the biggest fanboy - of scal.

    I posted ten straight winning weeks to start the NFL season and when I had the first losing week in week 11, you made the first negative comment because you blindly tailed. It seems like you are the one living in a 2x2 basement who comes just out to troll and hate on other people while you can't cap a game on your own. Or what was your documented record in the past? I remember one thread in which you took NO ML at Golden State in the playoffs with the reasoning that the Warriors would want to lose the game in front of their beloved home crowd so they have another home game in game 5 to give the fans something back - that's great capping.

    You just don't have any clue about the betting market. Hundreds of thousands people placed a future bet on the Cavaliers from $5 to $50,000 at those odds? That's just ridiculous.

    Let's admit hundreds of thousands equals 500,000 people worldwide. If you range the betting amount from $5 to $50,000, "or even more", what would the average amount be? $300? $500? Let's say $500. That would equal a total volume of $250M bet on the Cavaliers at 30-1 to win the NBA championship. So even with a very small probability of LeBron James joining the Cavaliers, the worldwide group of oddsmakers, bookies, legal or illegal, would risk a $7.5B payout?

    If so many people would have bet such an amount of money on the Cavaliers at 30-1, the line would have been driven down significantly.

    But what do I want to expect from a guy who tells us that he makes tons of money off fading a 50%+ guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    @suuma - I don't know which dark little hole you came crawling out of but you sound like a typical yankee that thinks USA is the only country in the world. Do you know what the global population is and that "hundreds of thousands of people" in the scheme of things is a very very small percentage? Do you know that sports betting in the US only makes up 20-25% of the global betting population? You must not get out much from your 2x2 basement, I can clearly see that "hundreds of thousands" is a number so astronomical for you 

    Also, seems like I have a fanboy that is you. Remembering things that I don't even recall. 


    I just remember that you hate on scal in every single thread when he posts a losing pick - so you most probably did in those threads. Those are games I quickly remembered. You are the biggest fanboy - of scal.

    I posted ten straight winning weeks to start the NFL season and when I had the first losing week in week 11, you made the first negative comment because you blindly tailed. It seems like you are the one living in a 2x2 basement who comes just out to troll and hate on other people while you can't cap a game on your own. Or what was your documented record in the past? I remember one thread in which you took NO ML at Golden State in the playoffs with the reasoning that the Warriors would want to lose the game in front of their beloved home crowd so they have another home game in game 5 to give the fans something back - that's great capping.

    You just don't have any clue about the betting market. Hundreds of thousands people placed a future bet on the Cavaliers from $5 to $50,000 at those odds? That's just ridiculous.

    Let's admit hundreds of thousands equals 500,000 people worldwide. If you range the betting amount from $5 to $50,000, "or even more", what would the average amount be? $300? $500? Let's say $500. That would equal a total volume of $250M bet on the Cavaliers at 30-1 to win the NBA championship. So even with a very small probability of LeBron James joining the Cavaliers, the worldwide group of oddsmakers, bookies, legal or illegal, would risk a $7.5B payout?

    If so many people would have bet such an amount of money on the Cavaliers at 30-1, the line would have been driven down significantly.

    But what do I want to expect from a guy who tells us that he makes tons of money off fading a 50%+ guy.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:



    I just remember that you hate on scal in every single thread when he posts a losing pick - so you most probably did in those threads. Those are games I quickly remembered. You are the biggest fanboy - of scal.

    I posted ten straight winning weeks to start the NFL season and when I had the first losing week in week 11, you made the first negative comment because you blindly tailed. It seems like you are the one living in a 2x2 basement who comes just out to troll and hate on other people while you can't cap a game on your own. Or what was your documented record in the past? I remember one thread in which you took NO ML at Golden State in the playoffs with the reasoning that the Warriors would want to lose the game in front of their beloved home crowd so they have another home game in game 5 to give the fans something back - that's great capping.

    You just don't have any clue about the betting market. Hundreds of thousands people placed a future bet on the Cavaliers from $5 to $50,000 at those odds? That's just ridiculous.

    Let's admit hundreds of thousands equals 500,000 people worldwide. If you range the betting amount from $5 to $50,000, "or even more", what would the average amount be? $300? $500? Let's say $500. That would equal a total volume of $250M bet on the Cavaliers at 30-1 to win the NBA championship. So even with a very small probability of LeBron James joining the Cavaliers, the worldwide group of oddsmakers, bookies, legal or illegal, would risk a $7.5B payout?

    If so many people would have bet such an amount of money on the Cavaliers at 30-1, the line would have been driven down significantly.

    But what do I want to expect from a guy who tells us that he makes tons of money off fading a 50%+ guy.


    $250 million is a lot of money? To us normal people yes. To others (the group of men that run global sports betting) it's just spare change.
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    I just remember that you hate on scal in every single thread when he posts a losing pick - so you most probably did in those threads. Those are games I quickly remembered. You are the biggest fanboy - of scal.

    I posted ten straight winning weeks to start the NFL season and when I had the first losing week in week 11, you made the first negative comment because you blindly tailed. It seems like you are the one living in a 2x2 basement who comes just out to troll and hate on other people while you can't cap a game on your own. Or what was your documented record in the past? I remember one thread in which you took NO ML at Golden State in the playoffs with the reasoning that the Warriors would want to lose the game in front of their beloved home crowd so they have another home game in game 5 to give the fans something back - that's great capping.

    You just don't have any clue about the betting market. Hundreds of thousands people placed a future bet on the Cavaliers from $5 to $50,000 at those odds? That's just ridiculous.

    Let's admit hundreds of thousands equals 500,000 people worldwide. If you range the betting amount from $5 to $50,000, "or even more", what would the average amount be? $300? $500? Let's say $500. That would equal a total volume of $250M bet on the Cavaliers at 30-1 to win the NBA championship. So even with a very small probability of LeBron James joining the Cavaliers, the worldwide group of oddsmakers, bookies, legal or illegal, would risk a $7.5B payout?

    If so many people would have bet such an amount of money on the Cavaliers at 30-1, the line would have been driven down significantly.

    But what do I want to expect from a guy who tells us that he makes tons of money off fading a 50%+ guy.


    $250 million is a lot of money? To us normal people yes. To others (the group of men that run global sports betting) it's just spare change.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:



    Wow, this is the biggest head-scratching comment I've read in a long while. I am almost speechless.

    Hundred of thousands took the Cavs at 30-1?

    You have some serious numbers issues. That's why you keep telling us that you made tons of cash fading scal when he was actually around 50% and above 50% the year before.

    You sent congratulations to people who hold a losing ticket, but when scal lost on the Giants -3 @ Jacksonville, or because of Geno Smith throwing a last-minute pick-six against the Broncos, you were the one laughing.

    "This is the last time I'll post on this thread. I hope you're happy." - fadeORdie

    How about a man's word?


    Scal just said that the Cavs won't win the championship in 2015, that they won't beat a good team from the Western Conference in a seven-game-series. Because of that, he said that people holding a 30-1 ticket, can only make money IF they hedge out and can only make a solid return IF they hedge out at solid odds.

    FACT 1: the Cavaliers lost 2-4 against the Warriors and one of those wins came on an overtime win by shooting 32.2% from the field. Remember, even the Sixers averaged 40.8% from the field during the regular season. The Raptors couldn't win any playoff game while shooting 41.6%. Would be interesting to see how many teams have won in the past while shooting below 33%.

    FACT 2: While there are so many people hating on scal, only ONE guy in this thread posted that he hedged a bit out of his 30-1 ticket. So there is only one guy on here who can give us a proof that he won money off that 30-1 or 28-1 ticket, but there are 24 pages of hating on scal.

    FACT 3: Those 30-1 tickets were put in the shredder.

    Everyone who disagrees on this, either has a below-average IQ or hates scal so much as a virtual person that he can't be objective enough to give him credit.

    Compared to a Formula 1 race, scal was the leader in 70 out of 72 rounds.






    Suuma doing my bi*ch slapping for me.... I should put you on the payroll you're that good.

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    Wow, this is the biggest head-scratching comment I've read in a long while. I am almost speechless.

    Hundred of thousands took the Cavs at 30-1?

    You have some serious numbers issues. That's why you keep telling us that you made tons of cash fading scal when he was actually around 50% and above 50% the year before.

    You sent congratulations to people who hold a losing ticket, but when scal lost on the Giants -3 @ Jacksonville, or because of Geno Smith throwing a last-minute pick-six against the Broncos, you were the one laughing.

    "This is the last time I'll post on this thread. I hope you're happy." - fadeORdie

    How about a man's word?


    Scal just said that the Cavs won't win the championship in 2015, that they won't beat a good team from the Western Conference in a seven-game-series. Because of that, he said that people holding a 30-1 ticket, can only make money IF they hedge out and can only make a solid return IF they hedge out at solid odds.

    FACT 1: the Cavaliers lost 2-4 against the Warriors and one of those wins came on an overtime win by shooting 32.2% from the field. Remember, even the Sixers averaged 40.8% from the field during the regular season. The Raptors couldn't win any playoff game while shooting 41.6%. Would be interesting to see how many teams have won in the past while shooting below 33%.

    FACT 2: While there are so many people hating on scal, only ONE guy in this thread posted that he hedged a bit out of his 30-1 ticket. So there is only one guy on here who can give us a proof that he won money off that 30-1 or 28-1 ticket, but there are 24 pages of hating on scal.

    FACT 3: Those 30-1 tickets were put in the shredder.

    Everyone who disagrees on this, either has a below-average IQ or hates scal so much as a virtual person that he can't be objective enough to give him credit.

    Compared to a Formula 1 race, scal was the leader in 70 out of 72 rounds.






    Suuma doing my bi*ch slapping for me.... I should put you on the payroll you're that good.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by examine:

    good call

    Thanks, but it's a yes and no with regard to the call. I paid a lot of chalk to have the Cavs 'not win the title', but I made no thread about that. No one needs a thread advising them to take on - ML odds.

    I did however, warn 30-1 bettors (and most certainly 3-1 bettors) that their tickets were toast from day 1 given the flawed nature of this team (that went through several different roster changing stages, like many do throughout a season). Yes it came down to the final 2 games, but as Suuma elucidated about, this series wasn't as close as it appeared, that is, when the Cavs played a real opponent from the West.

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    good call

    Thanks, but it's a yes and no with regard to the call. I paid a lot of chalk to have the Cavs 'not win the title', but I made no thread about that. No one needs a thread advising them to take on - ML odds.

    I did however, warn 30-1 bettors (and most certainly 3-1 bettors) that their tickets were toast from day 1 given the flawed nature of this team (that went through several different roster changing stages, like many do throughout a season). Yes it came down to the final 2 games, but as Suuma elucidated about, this series wasn't as close as it appeared, that is, when the Cavs played a real opponent from the West.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:



    I just remember that you hate on scal in every single thread when he posts a losing pick - so you most probably did in those threads. Those are games I quickly remembered. You are the biggest fanboy - of scal.

    I posted ten straight winning weeks to start the NFL season and when I had the first losing week in week 11, you made the first negative comment because you blindly tailed. It seems like you are the one living in a 2x2 basement who comes just out to troll and hate on other people while you can't cap a game on your own. Or what was your documented record in the past? I remember one thread in which you took NO ML at Golden State in the playoffs with the reasoning that the Warriors would want to lose the game in front of their beloved home crowd so they have another home game in game 5 to give the fans something back - that's great capping.

    You just don't have any clue about the betting market. Hundreds of thousands people placed a future bet on the Cavaliers from $5 to $50,000 at those odds? That's just ridiculous.

    Let's admit hundreds of thousands equals 500,000 people worldwide. If you range the betting amount from $5 to $50,000, "or even more", what would the average amount be? $300? $500? Let's say $500. That would equal a total volume of $250M bet on the Cavaliers at 30-1 to win the NBA championship. So even with a very small probability of LeBron James joining the Cavaliers, the worldwide group of oddsmakers, bookies, legal or illegal, would risk a $7.5B payout?

    If so many people would have bet such an amount of money on the Cavaliers at 30-1, the line would have been driven down significantly.

    But what do I want to expect from a guy who tells us that he makes tons of money off fading a 50%+ guy.

    Suuma, don't feel bad.

    There was a guy on here who posted about TWENTY ONE straight winners in the NBA forum, and the second he went cold, the trolls started bashing the kid. The kid admitted he had no system and offered no write-ups, just picks. Still hit 21 of the suckers in a row. Good enough? Nah. The trolls were there to kick him when he went down the second he lost. It's like they like live for schadenfreude

     

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    I just remember that you hate on scal in every single thread when he posts a losing pick - so you most probably did in those threads. Those are games I quickly remembered. You are the biggest fanboy - of scal.

    I posted ten straight winning weeks to start the NFL season and when I had the first losing week in week 11, you made the first negative comment because you blindly tailed. It seems like you are the one living in a 2x2 basement who comes just out to troll and hate on other people while you can't cap a game on your own. Or what was your documented record in the past? I remember one thread in which you took NO ML at Golden State in the playoffs with the reasoning that the Warriors would want to lose the game in front of their beloved home crowd so they have another home game in game 5 to give the fans something back - that's great capping.

    You just don't have any clue about the betting market. Hundreds of thousands people placed a future bet on the Cavaliers from $5 to $50,000 at those odds? That's just ridiculous.

    Let's admit hundreds of thousands equals 500,000 people worldwide. If you range the betting amount from $5 to $50,000, "or even more", what would the average amount be? $300? $500? Let's say $500. That would equal a total volume of $250M bet on the Cavaliers at 30-1 to win the NBA championship. So even with a very small probability of LeBron James joining the Cavaliers, the worldwide group of oddsmakers, bookies, legal or illegal, would risk a $7.5B payout?

    If so many people would have bet such an amount of money on the Cavaliers at 30-1, the line would have been driven down significantly.

    But what do I want to expect from a guy who tells us that he makes tons of money off fading a 50%+ guy.

    Suuma, don't feel bad.

    There was a guy on here who posted about TWENTY ONE straight winners in the NBA forum, and the second he went cold, the trolls started bashing the kid. The kid admitted he had no system and offered no write-ups, just picks. Still hit 21 of the suckers in a row. Good enough? Nah. The trolls were there to kick him when he went down the second he lost. It's like they like live for schadenfreude

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Well folks, you better believe there will be a big swinging dic* strolling up in this thread. And that swinging dic*... is mine.

    This thread originally started out as a rant about all the 30-1 futures holders who were dancing in the Vegas streets like they already won something after Lebron came and the odds plummeted to 3-1.

    Well just as I said in the OP, the team was wildly flawed and just as I said throughout this thread, Lebron did not win in his first year in Miami with a better cast and he wouldn't win here.

    Then you have the "Well look at all the injuries!" troglodytes.

    And I retort with, "Well look at all the key players that the league's bottom-feeders handed to the Cavs to make up for all their deficiencies."

    And it was those very players that kept them IN the running, not take them out.

    Did bad luck bite them in the end? Of course. But Lebron should think twice before he decides to flop wildly headfirst into a cameraman as well, furthering his team's 'hospital-gown' state.

    And to all those who said this money was GUARANTEED!!!!

    What was GUARANTEED!!???! And how much was guaranteed anyway to hoot and holler about it???

    I begged and pleaded for someone, anyone, on the biggest gambling site in the world to tell me they hedged out during the season like Rangerz suggested. We didn't find A SINGLE POSTER in a thread of near 16,000 view and near 600 responses who did that.

    We found ONE GUY who actually bought a $400 ticket at 28-1 and he worsened his situation BY HEDGING (not his fault) and ultimately made a 21% rate of return. WOW. . Look all the hedgers dancing in the street. On top of that, he needed a whopping $5,500 to get that 21% return. Most guys here are DOWN $5,500 or more and would be able to do no such thing.

    So to my rant in the OP and comments throughout the thread, I said the Cavs WOULD NOT WIN. Why? Because of all the pomposity and hysteria that surrounded Lebron coming to Cleveland overshadowing a flawed team (and a rookie coach to boot).

    And now we recognize the trolls who DESPERATELY kept this thread alive, as they always do, in an effort to make me look bad. Trolls like:

    BWS77 - A raging bigot in general discussion who cares about the black male in one way and one way only...on the hardwood where he can make money off them. Otherwise, they can all disappear in his eyes.

    Trolls like:

    joepa510

    RodWoman

    FADEORIDE

    Three of the least most respected covers members in the NBA Forum, the NFL forum or MLB forum. Hell, they wouldn't even find respect in the Website Promotions forum.

    And finally,

    VEGASVANDAL

    A guy who lost 7 straight bets in one thread and has the audacity to criticize me about COMMENTARY (not a bet folks, commentary) concerning Coach K.

    Yes, folks, you will get a roll call of trolls when you are dealing with me.

    So to finish up...

    $100 30-1 bettors (the overwhelming majority of you) who let it ride?

    Your tickets are IN THE SHREDDER.

    3-1 bettors? All your tickets are surely in the shredders (try hedging out at -220 to start the series and -700 after game 1).

    To the 1% that actually profited something, nice job. Vegas made MORE than enough off all the tickets that found their way to the shredder to pay your behind**s.

    Another day, another dollar, another troll bloodbath...





    Congrats scal!    One of your chest-thumping threads finally didn't bite you in the @ss!   Although, you sure felt it's breath on your cheeks.   

    Their tickets can join your Knicks Over 40 wins in the shredder.... the only difference is that their tickets were still relevant on June 16th, MUCH longer than you thought they would be.   
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    Well folks, you better believe there will be a big swinging dic* strolling up in this thread. And that swinging dic*... is mine.

    This thread originally started out as a rant about all the 30-1 futures holders who were dancing in the Vegas streets like they already won something after Lebron came and the odds plummeted to 3-1.

    Well just as I said in the OP, the team was wildly flawed and just as I said throughout this thread, Lebron did not win in his first year in Miami with a better cast and he wouldn't win here.

    Then you have the "Well look at all the injuries!" troglodytes.

    And I retort with, "Well look at all the key players that the league's bottom-feeders handed to the Cavs to make up for all their deficiencies."

    And it was those very players that kept them IN the running, not take them out.

    Did bad luck bite them in the end? Of course. But Lebron should think twice before he decides to flop wildly headfirst into a cameraman as well, furthering his team's 'hospital-gown' state.

    And to all those who said this money was GUARANTEED!!!!

    What was GUARANTEED!!???! And how much was guaranteed anyway to hoot and holler about it???

    I begged and pleaded for someone, anyone, on the biggest gambling site in the world to tell me they hedged out during the season like Rangerz suggested. We didn't find A SINGLE POSTER in a thread of near 16,000 view and near 600 responses who did that.

    We found ONE GUY who actually bought a $400 ticket at 28-1 and he worsened his situation BY HEDGING (not his fault) and ultimately made a 21% rate of return. WOW. . Look all the hedgers dancing in the street. On top of that, he needed a whopping $5,500 to get that 21% return. Most guys here are DOWN $5,500 or more and would be able to do no such thing.

    So to my rant in the OP and comments throughout the thread, I said the Cavs WOULD NOT WIN. Why? Because of all the pomposity and hysteria that surrounded Lebron coming to Cleveland overshadowing a flawed team (and a rookie coach to boot).

    And now we recognize the trolls who DESPERATELY kept this thread alive, as they always do, in an effort to make me look bad. Trolls like:

    BWS77 - A raging bigot in general discussion who cares about the black male in one way and one way only...on the hardwood where he can make money off them. Otherwise, they can all disappear in his eyes.

    Trolls like:

    joepa510

    RodWoman

    FADEORIDE

    Three of the least most respected covers members in the NBA Forum, the NFL forum or MLB forum. Hell, they wouldn't even find respect in the Website Promotions forum.

    And finally,

    VEGASVANDAL

    A guy who lost 7 straight bets in one thread and has the audacity to criticize me about COMMENTARY (not a bet folks, commentary) concerning Coach K.

    Yes, folks, you will get a roll call of trolls when you are dealing with me.

    So to finish up...

    $100 30-1 bettors (the overwhelming majority of you) who let it ride?

    Your tickets are IN THE SHREDDER.

    3-1 bettors? All your tickets are surely in the shredders (try hedging out at -220 to start the series and -700 after game 1).

    To the 1% that actually profited something, nice job. Vegas made MORE than enough off all the tickets that found their way to the shredder to pay your behind**s.

    Another day, another dollar, another troll bloodbath...





    Congrats scal!    One of your chest-thumping threads finally didn't bite you in the @ss!   Although, you sure felt it's breath on your cheeks.   

    Their tickets can join your Knicks Over 40 wins in the shredder.... the only difference is that their tickets were still relevant on June 16th, MUCH longer than you thought they would be.   
     
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    Also it took two season ending injuries in the playoffs to 
    Love and Irving that nobody saw coming. Probably would be still playing this series if both were healthy. More than 1% definitely hedged this bet especially with the 2 stars out, your delusional if you believe they didn't. I guess the only people that bet in the world are here on covers and they come into Scalabrine threads because they can find the best longest writeups on the internet that were always the right side blah blah cuz Scal says so
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    Love and Irving that nobody saw coming. Probably would be still playing this series if both were healthy. More than 1% definitely hedged this bet especially with the 2 stars out, your delusional if you believe they didn't. I guess the only people that bet in the world are here on covers and they come into Scalabrine threads because they can find the best longest writeups on the internet that were always the right side blah blah cuz Scal says so
     
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     Anyone that disagrees with you or criticizes you is "one of the least most respected members of the forum", Tweedledum.  Doesn't matter the content of their message.

    And you think you are "one of the most most respected members of the forum"?  Think again, Tee Dum.

     

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     Anyone that disagrees with you or criticizes you is "one of the least most respected members of the forum", Tweedledum.  Doesn't matter the content of their message.

    And you think you are "one of the most most respected members of the forum"?  Think again, Tee Dum.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2015 - 12:32 PM ET #568

    Scal - Great thread! Thank you for the great discussion. As documented on here I had a great NBA finals, taking my guaranteed profit from an awesome hedge on cavs 28-1 at $400!

    Let's all go crush College Football and NFL. 

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    Scal - Great thread! Thank you for the great discussion. As documented on here I had a great NBA finals, taking my guaranteed profit from an awesome hedge on cavs 28-1 at $400!

    Let's all go crush College Football and NFL. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2015 - 1:01 PM ET #569

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Thanks, but it's a yes and no with regard to the call. I paid a lot of chalk to have the Cavs 'not win the title', but I made no thread about that. No one needs a thread advising them to take on - ML odds.

    I did however, warn 30-1 bettors (and most certainly 3-1 bettors) that their tickets were toast from day 1 given the flawed nature of this team (that went through several different roster changing stages, like many do throughout a season). Yes it came down to the final 2 games, but as Suuma elucidated about, this series wasn't as close as it appeared, that is, when the Cavs played a real opponent from the West.


    It's not that they played a team from the west it's the fact that two of their three stars were out. They pushed this series to 6 with LeBron and the third worst supporting cast in nba finals history, something the 2 seed in the west couldn't even do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Thanks, but it's a yes and no with regard to the call. I paid a lot of chalk to have the Cavs 'not win the title', but I made no thread about that. No one needs a thread advising them to take on - ML odds.

    I did however, warn 30-1 bettors (and most certainly 3-1 bettors) that their tickets were toast from day 1 given the flawed nature of this team (that went through several different roster changing stages, like many do throughout a season). Yes it came down to the final 2 games, but as Suuma elucidated about, this series wasn't as close as it appeared, that is, when the Cavs played a real opponent from the West.


    It's not that they played a team from the west it's the fact that two of their three stars were out. They pushed this series to 6 with LeBron and the third worst supporting cast in nba finals history, something the 2 seed in the west couldn't even do.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2015 - 2:29 PM ET #570

    Please continue posting your football plays. Made a ton fading you last year. Thanks again!
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    Please continue posting your football plays. Made a ton fading you last year. Thanks again!
     
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    Scal.




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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Well folks, you better believe there will be a big swinging dic* strolling up in this thread. And that swinging dic*... is mine.

    This thread originally started out as a rant about all the 30-1 futures holders who were dancing in the Vegas streets like they already won something after Lebron came and the odds plummeted to 3-1.

    Well just as I said in the OP, the team was wildly flawed and just as I said throughout this thread, Lebron did not win in his first year in Miami with a better cast and he wouldn't win here.

    Then you have the "Well look at all the injuries!" troglodytes.

    And I retort with, "Well look at all the key players that the league's bottom-feeders handed to the Cavs to make up for all their deficiencies."

    And it was those very players that kept them IN the running, not take them out.

    Did bad luck bite them in the end? Of course. But Lebron should think twice before he decides to flop wildly headfirst into a cameraman as well, furthering his team's 'hospital-gown' state.

    And to all those who said this money was GUARANTEED!!!!

    What was GUARANTEED!!???! And how much was guaranteed anyway to hoot and holler about it???

    I begged and pleaded for someone, anyone, on the biggest gambling site in the world to tell me they hedged out during the season like Rangerz suggested. We didn't find A SINGLE POSTER in a thread of near 16,000 view and near 600 responses who did that.

    We found ONE GUY who actually bought a $400 ticket at 28-1 and he worsened his situation BY HEDGING (not his fault) and ultimately made a 21% rate of return. WOW. . Look all the hedgers dancing in the street. On top of that, he needed a whopping $5,500 to get that 21% return. Most guys here are DOWN $5,500 or more and would be able to do no such thing.

    So to my rant in the OP and comments throughout the thread, I said the Cavs WOULD NOT WIN. Why? Because of all the pomposity and hysteria that surrounded Lebron coming to Cleveland overshadowing a flawed team (and a rookie coach to boot).

    And now we recognize the trolls who DESPERATELY kept this thread alive, as they always do, in an effort to make me look bad. Trolls like:

    BWS77 - A raging bigot in general discussion who cares about the black male in one way and one way only...on the hardwood where he can make money off them. Otherwise, they can all disappear in his eyes.

    Trolls like:

    joepa510

    RodWoman

    FADEORIDE

    Three of the least most respected covers members in the NBA Forum, the NFL forum or MLB forum. Hell, they wouldn't even find respect in the Website Promotions forum.

    And finally,

    VEGASVANDAL

    A guy who lost 7 straight bets in one thread and has the audacity to criticize me about COMMENTARY (not a bet folks, commentary) concerning Coach K.

    Yes, folks, you will get a roll call of trolls when you are dealing with me.

    So to finish up...

    $100 30-1 bettors (the overwhelming majority of you) who let it ride?

    Your tickets are IN THE SHREDDER.

    3-1 bettors? All your tickets are surely in the shredders (try hedging out at -220 to start the series and -700 after game 1).

    To the 1% that actually profited something, nice job. Vegas made MORE than enough off all the tickets that found their way to the shredder to pay your behind**s.

    Another day, another dollar, another troll bloodbath...

    I had no idea I was one of the 3 least most respected cappers on here. An interesting fact since I have not posted a play in years and generally just come on here for entertainment value and make comments on other threads.. I certainly don't come on this site seeking respect..  

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Well folks, you better believe there will be a big swinging dic* strolling up in this thread. And that swinging dic*... is mine.

    This thread originally started out as a rant about all the 30-1 futures holders who were dancing in the Vegas streets like they already won something after Lebron came and the odds plummeted to 3-1.

    Well just as I said in the OP, the team was wildly flawed and just as I said throughout this thread, Lebron did not win in his first year in Miami with a better cast and he wouldn't win here.

    Then you have the "Well look at all the injuries!" troglodytes.

    And I retort with, "Well look at all the key players that the league's bottom-feeders handed to the Cavs to make up for all their deficiencies."

    And it was those very players that kept them IN the running, not take them out.

    Did bad luck bite them in the end? Of course. But Lebron should think twice before he decides to flop wildly headfirst into a cameraman as well, furthering his team's 'hospital-gown' state.

    And to all those who said this money was GUARANTEED!!!!

    What was GUARANTEED!!???! And how much was guaranteed anyway to hoot and holler about it???

    I begged and pleaded for someone, anyone, on the biggest gambling site in the world to tell me they hedged out during the season like Rangerz suggested. We didn't find A SINGLE POSTER in a thread of near 16,000 view and near 600 responses who did that.

    We found ONE GUY who actually bought a $400 ticket at 28-1 and he worsened his situation BY HEDGING (not his fault) and ultimately made a 21% rate of return. WOW. . Look all the hedgers dancing in the street. On top of that, he needed a whopping $5,500 to get that 21% return. Most guys here are DOWN $5,500 or more and would be able to do no such thing.

    So to my rant in the OP and comments throughout the thread, I said the Cavs WOULD NOT WIN. Why? Because of all the pomposity and hysteria that surrounded Lebron coming to Cleveland overshadowing a flawed team (and a rookie coach to boot).

    And now we recognize the trolls who DESPERATELY kept this thread alive, as they always do, in an effort to make me look bad. Trolls like:

    BWS77 - A raging bigot in general discussion who cares about the black male in one way and one way only...on the hardwood where he can make money off them. Otherwise, they can all disappear in his eyes.

    Trolls like:

    joepa510

    RodWoman

    FADEORIDE

    Three of the least most respected covers members in the NBA Forum, the NFL forum or MLB forum. Hell, they wouldn't even find respect in the Website Promotions forum.

    And finally,

    VEGASVANDAL

    A guy who lost 7 straight bets in one thread and has the audacity to criticize me about COMMENTARY (not a bet folks, commentary) concerning Coach K.

    Yes, folks, you will get a roll call of trolls when you are dealing with me.

    So to finish up...

    $100 30-1 bettors (the overwhelming majority of you) who let it ride?

    Your tickets are IN THE SHREDDER.

    3-1 bettors? All your tickets are surely in the shredders (try hedging out at -220 to start the series and -700 after game 1).

    To the 1% that actually profited something, nice job. Vegas made MORE than enough off all the tickets that found their way to the shredder to pay your behind**s.

    Another day, another dollar, another troll bloodbath...

    I had no idea I was one of the 3 least most respected cappers on here. An interesting fact since I have not posted a play in years and generally just come on here for entertainment value and make comments on other threads.. I certainly don't come on this site seeking respect..  

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