Cavs Championship futures ticketholders?Save yourself the grief and put those babies in the shredder

Pefectly said

Why even keep a documented record anymore? I went 65% last year in all sports and posters here give the A) Last year is last year and this year is this year and B) I win 5 in a row and posters here bump 6 month old threads. What's the point? Who am I impressing. They harp on the losses and discard the wins.

And if you have a down year, they'll bring that up...for several years.

I posted my last 5 rock solid wins in a row because that little douc*ebag wanted to call me out on one bet...made SIX months ago. Wow. I'm hurt.

And I have more to say than I care about winning?

Kid, my write-ups on this site are the largest and among the most informative it has ever seen or ever will see.

So please, step off.

The thread was about you stating in the beginning of the season, to go ahead and rip up cavs future bets. You stuck your neck out early, when Cleveland didn't look good and it would be best to just admit that you were wrong.

Excuse me. Putting tickets in a shredder is a figure of speech. It is hyperbole telling those who have them they won't get a dime for them in the end.

And I want to make this clear. I said that AFTER the odds dropped to 3-1.

 I NEVER had a doubt in my mind, as stated all throughout this thread, they would make the playoffs. And in the East ANYONE can come out of it especially one with the biggest star of them all.

Cleveland had a very minor struggle at 5-7 and 19-20 and that was it. No one was jumping off buildings at those times and I never doubted they could make the playoffs even as a high seed.

No one is wrong here. The ticket is as good as being shredded until it hits.

I won't even get into effective hedging and the value of effective hedging because too many posters here have demonstrated they do not understand the topic.

And all this talk about 'guaranteed' money. You have no idea what that guarantee is. Is it 2x 3x 4x. If it's 4 times, the 30-1 becomes a 4-1. Well that is nothing to go bonkers about. And might I add, they will be dogs to Golden state which is the worst possible way to hedge. And how much will they hedge for? Will they even hedge? The hundred dollar bettor making $400? Wow! Is that something to bump a thread 100 times for?

We've all hit parlays. There is nothing extraordinary about that.

And might I add, nothing was guaranteed with the Knicks handing the Cavs two of three starters and the Nuggets playing a role with Mozgov.

So here is what you needed after your placed your 30-1 bet:

Lebron signs

Love is traded for

JR and Shumpert are given to the Cavs

Mozgov is traded for two effective high second rounders

Without ALL those things happening, the Cavs are NOT in the place they are today.

And ultimately in the end, that 30-1 STILL will not get paid off. So the hedging for 2/3/4 times their bet (which by the way NO ONE has posted in terms of showing me a hedge) is NOT remarkable or noteworthy in any way! It's a nice little parlay payout.

So until that 30-1 hits, you can keep quiet.

If the 30-1 hits (it won't) come back and hoot and holler. Got it?

NO ONE is wrong. NOTHING had been paid out and NO ONE has posted a hedge. You're posting this like the Cavs have won the championship!!! Wrong!

yea thats true,things turned the cavs way with decisions they made but thats PART of futures,wen you bet on them they include ANYTHING that happens in the distant FUTURE....so all possible scenarios have to be taken into account wherever possible

Not true. You don't place a bet on anything happening. You can go to a track, lay your money on a 99-1 shot and say, "Listen anything can happen. The entire field can fall in a heap and my horse can come in." That would be unwise.

Virtually all futures bets are made with the team in place. This one has a very big addendum in that Lebron would be traded for and then Love was a longshot. And beyond that, nothing else was a given. All else was lucked into. We all knew they were in win now mode. They were talking about trading a future star in Wiggins the day they drafted him.

Why would you care about my betting amounts? No one gives a shi* about that and I don't post them.

YOUR betting amounts are what matters. And when I post I am very selective and many people here value that. It is their betting amount that matters.

A W/L record is BY FAR the truest indicator of a record because I could bet 50 units today and lose and bet 110 tomorrow and win and go LOOK I'm up 50 units!...and I'm 1-1. 65% speaks to FAR greater than that.

Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

Here is the issue, he has never been wrong.

Really? I was wrong about the Knicks season win total (obviously)

Have the Cavs won the championship yet or are did you take some time machine to mid-June to inform us all the Cavs already won?

Ya know what's hilarious?

I say I won 65% last year. Does that matter? No, that was last season.

So the first game of last season I said I bet half my bankroll.

Now does that matter to trolls like you? YES! Because losses matter to trolls.

Wins? Let's forget about those.

Last season was the most profitable of my life because in addition to hitting 65% I had numerous Spurs futures throughout the year. You have no idea what I bet on any of that, well because NONE of my threads make that distinction.

But keep harping on one play made in the first game of the 2013-2014 season. It makes you that much more credible (and keep bumping that Knicks thread too)...

I have friends who played blackjack who have won and lost 12 hands in a row.

The problem with your statement is that my games are capped from top to bottom. It's not flipping coins or spinning marbles waiting for them to fall into black and red slots. That is where success and failure deviate. I'm not a gambler. I'm a capper who gambles. Now keep tailing my picks. You might win for once.

GSW play six or seven games?  Like the Hawks, their opponent needs to win ONE game first before anyone goes 6 or 7. When they win one, then you can hope for another to get to six otherwise, please stop with the 6 or 7 game series in either one of these matchups. It's clear that now Korver is injured (yet another blessing for the Cavs) they are pretty much done. But what is the East anyway...Nets got through the east twice only to get slaughtered by the Lakers and ultimately handled by the Spurs. Cavs will be in for a big surprise come finals time. a very big surprise...

Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

    Never happen!!

Again, I have to say it for the billionth time.

Who is wrong about any of this? These tickets have paid $0 and there is extensive discussion on hedging (ya know, not just cut and dry 'well it was 30-1 and now it's 3-1 sot there's hedging opportunities talk).

I posted this thread when it dropped from 30-1 to 3-1!!! Why in the world do you think I would do that? So the second poster can say "No you can hedge" and I can say "Duhhhhh, yeah, you're right! I was stupid!". There is a major discussion on that topic many here are unwilling and unable to comprehend!