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    HappyKane
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    Posted: May. 15, 2011 - 10:52 PM ET #26

    Bulls win series 4-0 +2600
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    Posted: May. 15, 2011 - 11:26 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    I effed up and didn't play this but I really should have in hindsight. Only thing I'd be worried about depeche is that they sweep. 

    Excellent call though 

    It's a excellent call after 1 game ???????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    I effed up and didn't play this but I really should have in hindsight. Only thing I'd be worried about depeche is that they sweep. 

    Excellent call though 

    It's a excellent call after 1 game ???????????

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2011 - 12:03 AM ET #28

    nice hit.

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    nice hit.

     
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    Posted: May. 20, 2011 - 7:30 AM ET #29

    With Miami getting the win in Chicago now Bulls need to win 3 straight with 2 straight in Miami, for a 4-1 series win, highly, highly unlikely to happen.

    Bulls played an almost perfect game in game 1, getting 41% of the offensive rebounds available, believe it or not but that's the highest % of offensive rebounds gotten by any team  in "any game this season".

    Miami got just 18% of their offensive rebounds available, but in game 2 Bulls got just 33% to Heats 29%.

    What was a 23% difference in game 1 became a 4% difference in game 2.

    Combined that with the Bulls 47% shooting from 3's in game 1 and it's easy to see why Bulls won't duplicate that game.

    When you look at the ratio of pts scored off offensive rebounds, game 1 was the Bulls 5th best game of the entire season.

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    With Miami getting the win in Chicago now Bulls need to win 3 straight with 2 straight in Miami, for a 4-1 series win, highly, highly unlikely to happen.

    Bulls played an almost perfect game in game 1, getting 41% of the offensive rebounds available, believe it or not but that's the highest % of offensive rebounds gotten by any team  in "any game this season".

    Miami got just 18% of their offensive rebounds available, but in game 2 Bulls got just 33% to Heats 29%.

    What was a 23% difference in game 1 became a 4% difference in game 2.

    Combined that with the Bulls 47% shooting from 3's in game 1 and it's easy to see why Bulls won't duplicate that game.

    When you look at the ratio of pts scored off offensive rebounds, game 1 was the Bulls 5th best game of the entire season.

     
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    Posted: May. 20, 2011 - 9:50 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    With Miami getting the win in Chicago now Bulls need to win 3 straight with 2 straight in Miami, for a 4-1 series win, highly, highly unlikely to happen.

    Bulls played an almost perfect game in game 1, getting 41% of the offensive rebounds available, believe it or not but that's the highest % of offensive rebounds gotten by any team  in "any game this season".

    Miami got just 18% of their offensive rebounds available, but in game 2 Bulls got just 33% to Heats 29%.

    What was a 23% difference in game 1 became a 4% difference in game 2.

    Combined that with the Bulls 47% shooting from 3's in game 1 and it's easy to see why Bulls won't duplicate that game.

    When you look at the ratio of pts scored off offensive rebounds, game 1 was the Bulls 5th best game of the entire season.



    Or you could consider that the Bulls shot only 34% in Game 2.  They missed a boatload of easy shots.  Probably their worst shooting night in months.  Rose shot 0-7 on shots inside 9 feet.  Only 16/26 at the line and 3-20 behind the arc.  Despite all of that the game was still tied with 4 minutes left.

    And as for the first game, Miami had still outshot the Bulls 47-43%.

    There are two sides to every coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    With Miami getting the win in Chicago now Bulls need to win 3 straight with 2 straight in Miami, for a 4-1 series win, highly, highly unlikely to happen.

    Bulls played an almost perfect game in game 1, getting 41% of the offensive rebounds available, believe it or not but that's the highest % of offensive rebounds gotten by any team  in "any game this season".

    Miami got just 18% of their offensive rebounds available, but in game 2 Bulls got just 33% to Heats 29%.

    What was a 23% difference in game 1 became a 4% difference in game 2.

    Combined that with the Bulls 47% shooting from 3's in game 1 and it's easy to see why Bulls won't duplicate that game.

    When you look at the ratio of pts scored off offensive rebounds, game 1 was the Bulls 5th best game of the entire season.



    Or you could consider that the Bulls shot only 34% in Game 2.  They missed a boatload of easy shots.  Probably their worst shooting night in months.  Rose shot 0-7 on shots inside 9 feet.  Only 16/26 at the line and 3-20 behind the arc.  Despite all of that the game was still tied with 4 minutes left.

    And as for the first game, Miami had still outshot the Bulls 47-43%.

    There are two sides to every coin.
     
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    Posted: May. 20, 2011 - 9:52 AM ET #31

    depeche -- I still like the CHI side here
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    depeche -- I still like the CHI side here
     
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    Posted: May. 20, 2011 - 9:52 AM ET #32

    But the funny thing is fair value on this bet now not much higher around 15-1, despite basically the worst case scenario of a split.  If the Bulls had won Game 2 this bet would have oodles of value.  This all re-confirms my opinion that 11-1 was a great play.
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    But the funny thing is fair value on this bet now not much higher around 15-1, despite basically the worst case scenario of a split.  If the Bulls had won Game 2 this bet would have oodles of value.  This all re-confirms my opinion that 11-1 was a great play.
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2011 - 6:31 AM ET #33

    Consider the chances of the Bulls winning by two or less.  I know this happened once this year in Miami but the chances are low that it happens in a single home game.  Consider the Bulls win game 1 and 2 SU and ATS.  A SU win is likely a ATS win on the -2 spread.

    Let's look at a scenario where I take game 1 and 2 against the spread.
    1 units Bulls -2 (-110) Game 1 results in 1.91 units
    1.91 units Bulls -2 (-110) Game 2 results in 3.65 units

    Now let's assume a +180 Chicago ML in Miami Game 3 and 4.  Assume a Miami Game 4 -210 ML if they lose Game 3.  Assume a -230 ML in Chicago Game 5.  I will divide the money after Game 2 so that I will win money in the case that the Bulls lose either Game 3 or Game 4 (but not both).  I will allow the case where the Bulls lose Game 3 give the +1100.

    Solve this equation (x is the percentage of money I wager on Game 3)
    3.65 * (1 - x) * (1 + 180/100) * (1 + 100/230) = 12
    I get x = 0.18 (technically I get 12.02 when doing this)
    So Bulls W, W, L, W, W results in +1102

    I then consider Bulls W, W, W, L, W.  You will place a Miami ML wager on Game 4 in this case.
    (3.65 * x * (1 + 180/100) + 3.65 * (1 - x)) * (1 + 100/210) * (1 + 100/230) | x = 0.18 = 10.24
    So Bulls W, W, W, L, W is +924

    Average the two cases and we get +1013.  Your bet had approximately .87 units (8.6%) more value than playing this way.

    I can also maximize the aforementioned method with x = 0 to get an average value of +1020 and your bet has 7.8% more value.   For the most part I overestimated these ML's and the only assumption I made as a SU win was an ATS win in games 1 and 2.
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    Consider the chances of the Bulls winning by two or less.  I know this happened once this year in Miami but the chances are low that it happens in a single home game.  Consider the Bulls win game 1 and 2 SU and ATS.  A SU win is likely a ATS win on the -2 spread.

    Let's look at a scenario where I take game 1 and 2 against the spread.
    1 units Bulls -2 (-110) Game 1 results in 1.91 units
    1.91 units Bulls -2 (-110) Game 2 results in 3.65 units

    Now let's assume a +180 Chicago ML in Miami Game 3 and 4.  Assume a Miami Game 4 -210 ML if they lose Game 3.  Assume a -230 ML in Chicago Game 5.  I will divide the money after Game 2 so that I will win money in the case that the Bulls lose either Game 3 or Game 4 (but not both).  I will allow the case where the Bulls lose Game 3 give the +1100.

    Solve this equation (x is the percentage of money I wager on Game 3)
    3.65 * (1 - x) * (1 + 180/100) * (1 + 100/230) = 12
    I get x = 0.18 (technically I get 12.02 when doing this)
    So Bulls W, W, L, W, W results in +1102

    I then consider Bulls W, W, W, L, W.  You will place a Miami ML wager on Game 4 in this case.
    (3.65 * x * (1 + 180/100) + 3.65 * (1 - x)) * (1 + 100/210) * (1 + 100/230) | x = 0.18 = 10.24
    So Bulls W, W, W, L, W is +924

    Average the two cases and we get +1013.  Your bet had approximately .87 units (8.6%) more value than playing this way.

    I can also maximize the aforementioned method with x = 0 to get an average value of +1020 and your bet has 7.8% more value.   For the most part I overestimated these ML's and the only assumption I made as a SU win was an ATS win in games 1 and 2.
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2011 - 7:48 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    +1100



    MARK MY WORD ........ HEAT THE CHAMP !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    +1100



    MARK MY WORD ........ HEAT THE CHAMP !!!
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2011 - 7:49 AM ET #35

    HEATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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    HEATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 1:40 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by depechedouche22:

     

     

    -1100 on a terrible bet, you should of had Heat in 5 now theres the value you fucken retard with your shitcago sports,suck dick teams





    Over/Under on your age is set at 12....and the Under is juice to -150
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    Quote Originally Posted by depechedouche22:

     

     

    -1100 on a terrible bet, you should of had Heat in 5 now theres the value you fucken retard with your shitcago sports,suck dick teams





    Over/Under on your age is set at 12....and the Under is juice to -150
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 1:54 AM ET #37

    Chicago in 5 is out of the question now down 1-2, so maybe in 6?  I really doubt it with at least 2 more games in Miami.  It is possible but highly unlikely.
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    Chicago in 5 is out of the question now down 1-2, so maybe in 6?  I really doubt it with at least 2 more games in Miami.  It is possible but highly unlikely.
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 2:11 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by nepatriots_12:





    Over/Under on your age is set at 12....and the Under is juice to -150





    UNDER here 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatriots_12:





    Over/Under on your age is set at 12....and the Under is juice to -150





    UNDER here 
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 2:32 AM ET #39

    nice call
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    nice call
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 11:12 AM ET #40

    bulls LOSE in 5, you mean




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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 12:34 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by ILL:

    bulls LOSE in 5, you mean










       series is history. Lack of experience really showing plus the buls bench isn't contributing much at all, i.e. Korver, hello anyone there??? Bulls never wanted him but had to settle because ORL matched on Reddick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILL:

    bulls LOSE in 5, you mean










       series is history. Lack of experience really showing plus the buls bench isn't contributing much at all, i.e. Korver, hello anyone there??? Bulls never wanted him but had to settle because ORL matched on Reddick.
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 12:52 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    I effed up and didn't play this but I really should have in hindsight. Only thing I'd be worried about depeche is that they sweep. 

    Excellent call though 

    Excellent Call?  Really?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    I effed up and didn't play this but I really should have in hindsight. Only thing I'd be worried about depeche is that they sweep. 

    Excellent call though 

    Excellent Call?  Really?????

     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 1:15 PM ET #43

    king -- I still think it was an excellent call, he was getting a solid price for CHI to close it out at home and given the history between the teams at that point.


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    king -- I still think it was an excellent call, he was getting a solid price for CHI to close it out at home and given the history between the teams at that point.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    king -- I still think it was an excellent call, he was getting a solid price for CHI to close it out at home and given the history between the teams at that point.





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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    king -- I still think it was an excellent call, he was getting a solid price for CHI to close it out at home and given the history between the teams at that point.





     
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              and rose is mvp   most valuable box
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 11:46 PM ET #46

    nice call. LMAO
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 11:54 PM ET #47

    HAHHAHA love when people bring up old posts...good pick scum...HEAT IN 5 YOU SHOULDVE TOOK PRICKO
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    Posted: May. 27, 2011 - 12:32 AM ET #49

    Heat in 5, you sir, are a genius.
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    Boy are ppl dumb 2 think bulls hade chance in this series
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