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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2018 - 9:28 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    MY LINES...................................

    Celtics -7.25 over Bucks
    Pacers -.09 over Cavs
    Okc - 1.29 over Jazz
    Rockets -9.59 over T-wolves

    We'll pass on C's with injuries.

    LEAN.............Pacers +6.5
    LEAN ............T-wolves

    Jazz should get one of the 1st  two games SU,  but not sure if game 1 or game 2.

    Jazz +3.5 over Okc --- 2.2 units








    MY LINES ..........................

    LEANS ......2-0-1 ATS 

    Plays..... 0-1 ATS, lost 2.2 units


    Had we just backed my lines regardless of injuries the result were 4-0 ATS sat and 3-1 ATS sun.

    The info still works even with injuries. Sometimes not even worth looking into anything else, just stay the course with the info.


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    MY LINES...................................

    Celtics -7.25 over Bucks
    Pacers -.09 over Cavs
    Okc - 1.29 over Jazz
    Rockets -9.59 over T-wolves

    We'll pass on C's with injuries.

    LEAN.............Pacers +6.5
    LEAN ............T-wolves

    Jazz should get one of the 1st  two games SU,  but not sure if game 1 or game 2.

    Jazz +3.5 over Okc --- 2.2 units








    MY LINES ..........................

    LEANS ......2-0-1 ATS 

    Plays..... 0-1 ATS, lost 2.2 units


    Had we just backed my lines regardless of injuries the result were 4-0 ATS sat and 3-1 ATS sun.

    The info still works even with injuries. Sometimes not even worth looking into anything else, just stay the course with the info.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2018 - 9:32 AM ET #27

    MY LINES .....................................game 2's


    76ers -9.67 over Heat
    Warriors -10.3 over Spurs

    with each game with have rules, game 2 we only make a play on teams off an ATS loss.

    Both teams off ATS wins so we pass on game 2.

    76ers off a monster blow-out win, not a good spot to play them, if the cover we fade them game 3.
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    MY LINES .....................................game 2's


    76ers -9.67 over Heat
    Warriors -10.3 over Spurs

    with each game with have rules, game 2 we only make a play on teams off an ATS loss.

    Both teams off ATS wins so we pass on game 2.

    76ers off a monster blow-out win, not a good spot to play them, if the cover we fade them game 3.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2018 - 7:55 PM ET #28

    OVER-REACTION MONDAY...................................

    we fade large line adjustments when a over-reaction to the previous games score.

    76ERS/Heat under 216.5 ........ 2.2 units

    game 1 opened 212, now it is way up based on over-reaction to  many points in game 1, 76ers due a regression which means they likely will not score as many points.
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    OVER-REACTION MONDAY...................................

    we fade large line adjustments when a over-reaction to the previous games score.

    76ERS/Heat under 216.5 ........ 2.2 units

    game 1 opened 212, now it is way up based on over-reaction to  many points in game 1, 76ers due a regression which means they likely will not score as many points.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2018 - 9:36 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    OVER-REACTION MONDAY...................................

    we fade large line adjustments when a over-reaction to the previous games score.

    76ERS/Heat under 216.5 ........ 2.2 units

    game 1 opened 212, now it is way up based on over-reaction to  many points in game 1, 76ers due a regression which means they likely will not score as many points.
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    OVER-REACTION MONDAY...................................

    we fade large line adjustments when a over-reaction to the previous games score.

    76ERS/Heat under 216.5 ........ 2.2 units

    game 1 opened 212, now it is way up based on over-reaction to  many points in game 1, 76ers due a regression which means they likely will not score as many points.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2018 - 9:38 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    OVER-REACTION MONDAY...................................

    we fade large line adjustments when a over-reaction to the previous games score.

    76ERS/Heat under 216.5 ........ 2.2 units

    game 1 opened 212, now it is way up based on over-reaction to  many points in game 1, 76ers due a regression which means they likely will not score as many points.


    Warriors/Spurs OVER 204.5...............2.2 units

    once again over-reaction to game 1 results and the total is lowered far below game 1 opening, let's fade the over-reaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    OVER-REACTION MONDAY...................................

    we fade large line adjustments when a over-reaction to the previous games score.

    76ERS/Heat under 216.5 ........ 2.2 units

    game 1 opened 212, now it is way up based on over-reaction to  many points in game 1, 76ers due a regression which means they likely will not score as many points.


    Warriors/Spurs OVER 204.5...............2.2 units

    once again over-reaction to game 1 results and the total is lowered far below game 1 opening, let's fade the over-reaction.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2018 - 9:40 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    OVER-REACTION MONDAY...................................

    we fade large line adjustments when a over-reaction to the previous games score.

    76ERS/Heat under 216.5 ........ 2.2 units

    game 1 opened 212, now it is way up based on over-reaction to  many points in game 1, 76ers due a regression which means they likely will not score as many points.


    we're looking good 1st half as 76ers can not come close to scoring like they did in game 1, pace well below the game total.
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    OVER-REACTION MONDAY...................................

    we fade large line adjustments when a over-reaction to the previous games score.

    76ERS/Heat under 216.5 ........ 2.2 units

    game 1 opened 212, now it is way up based on over-reaction to  many points in game 1, 76ers due a regression which means they likely will not score as many points.


    we're looking good 1st half as 76ers can not come close to scoring like they did in game 1, pace well below the game total.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2018 - 6:33 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    OVER-REACTION MONDAY...................................

    we fade large line adjustments when a over-reaction to the previous games score.

    76ERS/Heat under 216.5 ........ 2.2 units

    game 1 opened 212, now it is way up based on over-reaction to  many points in game 1, 76ers due a regression which means they likely will not score as many points.



    Totals...................2-0 ATS......won 4 units


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    OVER-REACTION MONDAY...................................

    we fade large line adjustments when a over-reaction to the previous games score.

    76ERS/Heat under 216.5 ........ 2.2 units

    game 1 opened 212, now it is way up based on over-reaction to  many points in game 1, 76ers due a regression which means they likely will not score as many points.



    Totals...................2-0 ATS......won 4 units


     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2018 - 6:49 AM ET #33

    playoffs to date --- games --- 2-1-1 ATS .... won 1.8 units 
                                 totals --- 2-0 ATS, won 4 units
                                 leans 2-0-1 ATS 
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    playoffs to date --- games --- 2-1-1 ATS .... won 1.8 units 
                                 totals --- 2-0 ATS, won 4 units
                                 leans 2-0-1 ATS 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2018 - 6:54 AM ET #34

    MY LINES.......................................game 2's

    Raptors -10.16 over Wiz
    Celtics - 7.25 over Bucks
    Blazers -3.03 over Pelicans

    we pass on Celtics and Pelicans with injuries

    Raptors are not off a loss but are off a push ATS, we can make plays off a push, and likely will, but let's wait out the 

    we'll have a lean on Raps and a possible totals play 
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    MY LINES.......................................game 2's

    Raptors -10.16 over Wiz
    Celtics - 7.25 over Bucks
    Blazers -3.03 over Pelicans

    we pass on Celtics and Pelicans with injuries

    Raptors are not off a loss but are off a push ATS, we can make plays off a push, and likely will, but let's wait out the 

    we'll have a lean on Raps and a possible totals play 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2018 - 6:58 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    LARGEST MISMATCHES IN ALL INDICATORS..........................


    PRI................Warriors by 6.3
    PRII................Raptors by 3.28
    Shooting efficiency..............Warriors by 3.8
    FG % diff ..........................Warriors by 5.2
    Value ..........................Pacers by 3.65


    Method works well backing these teams in every game and very well off a SU loss and off  2 ATS losses.


    Warriors -8 over Spurs ---- 2.2 units
    Raptors -8 over Wiz --- 2.2 units


    Bummer, we forgot to back the Warriors game 2, geez, we back these teams in every game, thus far 3-0-1 ATS

    The one time we may pass is off 3 ATS wins the method is very low %, off 2 ATS wins about 50%.

    We wait out the line on Raptors , see if the public pushes it down 
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    LARGEST MISMATCHES IN ALL INDICATORS..........................


    PRI................Warriors by 6.3
    PRII................Raptors by 3.28
    Shooting efficiency..............Warriors by 3.8
    FG % diff ..........................Warriors by 5.2
    Value ..........................Pacers by 3.65


    Method works well backing these teams in every game and very well off a SU loss and off  2 ATS losses.


    Warriors -8 over Spurs ---- 2.2 units
    Raptors -8 over Wiz --- 2.2 units


    Bummer, we forgot to back the Warriors game 2, geez, we back these teams in every game, thus far 3-0-1 ATS

    The one time we may pass is off 3 ATS wins the method is very low %, off 2 ATS wins about 50%.

    We wait out the line on Raptors , see if the public pushes it down 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2018 - 6:58 PM ET #36

    Largest Mismatch..................

    Raptors -7 (-105) over Wiz --- 2.1 units to win 2 units
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    Largest Mismatch..................

    Raptors -7 (-105) over Wiz --- 2.1 units to win 2 units
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2018 - 6:31 AM ET #37

    Our largest mismatch teams are rolling, 4-0-1 ATS backing these teams in every game. 

    Pacers up tonight..........................

    Hopefully they keep the train rolling.


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    Our largest mismatch teams are rolling, 4-0-1 ATS backing these teams in every game. 

    Pacers up tonight..........................

    Hopefully they keep the train rolling.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2018 - 6:35 AM ET #38

    MY LINES......................game 2's

    Pacers -.09 over Cavs
    OKC  - 1.29 over Jazz
    Rockets -9.59 over T-wolves

    we have 1 play tonight on the Jazz coming off an ATS loss

    Jazz +4 over OKC --- 2.2 units
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    MY LINES......................game 2's

    Pacers -.09 over Cavs
    OKC  - 1.29 over Jazz
    Rockets -9.59 over T-wolves

    we have 1 play tonight on the Jazz coming off an ATS loss

    Jazz +4 over OKC --- 2.2 units
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2018 - 6:39 AM ET #39

    LARGEST MISMATCH TEAMS.......................

    Pacers +8 over Cavs --- 2.2 units

    might be able to get 8.5 waiting it out some and checking back, seems a number of 8.5 out there. I won't have the time so I'll post it at 8.
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    LARGEST MISMATCH TEAMS.......................

    Pacers +8 over Cavs --- 2.2 units

    might be able to get 8.5 waiting it out some and checking back, seems a number of 8.5 out there. I won't have the time so I'll post it at 8.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2018 - 6:46 AM ET #40

    OVER-REACTION...................................

    Big line adjustment based on over-reaction to game 1

    Cavs/Pacers OVER 209.5 --- 2.2 units

    We missed a play on Celtics last night unfortunately, with a huge line movement with all the money coming in on Bucks pushing the line down to PK .
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    OVER-REACTION...................................

    Big line adjustment based on over-reaction to game 1

    Cavs/Pacers OVER 209.5 --- 2.2 units

    We missed a play on Celtics last night unfortunately, with a huge line movement with all the money coming in on Bucks pushing the line down to PK .
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2018 - 6:46 AM ET #41

    Jazz now +4.5. must have just moved up. 
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    Jazz now +4.5. must have just moved up. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2018 - 7:09 AM ET #42

    Raptors on another level from past teams, not surprised to see them dominate last night. 

    Even when Wiz came back cut it to 6 I was confident they would win by double digits.


    Comparing Raptors to last season.......................

    PRI --- This season 3rd 6.93, last season 6 at 3.93
    PRII --- 3RD at 53.85, last season 4th at 52.58

    Raptors much better this year.

    FG % differential --- 4th 2.3%, last season 6th 1.5%
    shooting efficiency --- 3rd 3.5, last season 7th 1.93

    considering that 2.5% is minimum for champions , this is the very first season Raptors meet the minimum that most all champs produce.

    That tells us they have improved their game to another level and when teams improve to another level history tells us their success in the playoffs changes.

    Raptors are not chokers, they were never as strong a team as they are now.


    Pelicans playing very well without Cousins, but Blazers are not very good despite running off alot of games late in season. I know some guys like Blazers to make the finals as a good longshot team but reality is they are not very good.

    FG % diff they rank tied for 9th, 10th, 111th with Heat and Wiz

    Shooting efficiency which includes, 2 pts, 3 pt, FT and TO they rank a dreadful 14th out of 16 teams in the playoffs while Pelicans rank 7th and 3rd in FG %, a big reason why the mismatch method favored Pelicans over Blazers.

    Teams playing like the Blazers rarely make the finals.I suspect they may bounce back and get 1 win on road then another back at home before bowing out.
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    Raptors on another level from past teams, not surprised to see them dominate last night. 

    Even when Wiz came back cut it to 6 I was confident they would win by double digits.


    Comparing Raptors to last season.......................

    PRI --- This season 3rd 6.93, last season 6 at 3.93
    PRII --- 3RD at 53.85, last season 4th at 52.58

    Raptors much better this year.

    FG % differential --- 4th 2.3%, last season 6th 1.5%
    shooting efficiency --- 3rd 3.5, last season 7th 1.93

    considering that 2.5% is minimum for champions , this is the very first season Raptors meet the minimum that most all champs produce.

    That tells us they have improved their game to another level and when teams improve to another level history tells us their success in the playoffs changes.

    Raptors are not chokers, they were never as strong a team as they are now.


    Pelicans playing very well without Cousins, but Blazers are not very good despite running off alot of games late in season. I know some guys like Blazers to make the finals as a good longshot team but reality is they are not very good.

    FG % diff they rank tied for 9th, 10th, 111th with Heat and Wiz

    Shooting efficiency which includes, 2 pts, 3 pt, FT and TO they rank a dreadful 14th out of 16 teams in the playoffs while Pelicans rank 7th and 3rd in FG %, a big reason why the mismatch method favored Pelicans over Blazers.

    Teams playing like the Blazers rarely make the finals.I suspect they may bounce back and get 1 win on road then another back at home before bowing out.
     
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    What is PRI? 

    Raps definitely a lot better in many key metrics this year including wins over top 10 teams.

    Kyle Lowry is still playing filthy in these first two games though. 

    Can you explain Portlands great defensive efficiency numbers (7th, just behind houston)?

    Ironically they are 17th in opponent 3 point % and a ridiculous 2nd in opponent 2 point % which would seem like the perfect defense to stop the Pels because they hardly shoot the 3. 
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    What is PRI? 

    Raps definitely a lot better in many key metrics this year including wins over top 10 teams.

    Kyle Lowry is still playing filthy in these first two games though. 

    Can you explain Portlands great defensive efficiency numbers (7th, just behind houston)?

    Ironically they are 17th in opponent 3 point % and a ridiculous 2nd in opponent 2 point % which would seem like the perfect defense to stop the Pels because they hardly shoot the 3. 
     
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    Also do you think they'll pick up the pace in the cavs game? The game was played at a crawl with 94 possessions, both teams taking less than 80 shots. Even if Cavs shooting returns to average with that pace it won't go over. If they return to regular season pace and average shooting then it should go way over as I thought it would in game 1.
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    Also do you think they'll pick up the pace in the cavs game? The game was played at a crawl with 94 possessions, both teams taking less than 80 shots. Even if Cavs shooting returns to average with that pace it won't go over. If they return to regular season pace and average shooting then it should go way over as I thought it would in game 1.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    Raptors on another level from past teams, not surprised to see them dominate last night. 

    Even when Wiz came back cut it to 6 I was confident they would win by double digits.


    Comparing Raptors to last season.......................

    PRI --- This season 3rd 6.93, last season 6 at 3.93
    PRII --- 3RD at 53.85, last season 4th at 52.58

    Raptors much better this year.

    FG % differential --- 4th 2.3%, last season 6th 1.5%
    shooting efficiency --- 3rd 3.5, last season 7th 1.93

    considering that 2.5% is minimum for champions , this is the very first season Raptors meet the minimum that most all champs produce.

    That tells us they have improved their game to another level and when teams improve to another level history tells us their success in the playoffs changes.

    Raptors are not chokers, they were never as strong a team as they are now.


    Pelicans playing very well without Cousins, but Blazers are not very good despite running off alot of games late in season. I know some guys like Blazers to make the finals as a good longshot team but reality is they are not very good.

    FG % diff they rank tied for 9th, 10th, 111th with Heat and Wiz

    Shooting efficiency which includes, 2 pts, 3 pt, FT and TO they rank a dreadful 14th out of 16 teams in the playoffs while Pelicans rank 7th and 3rd in FG %, a big reason why the mismatch method favored Pelicans over Blazers.

    Teams playing like the Blazers rarely make the finals.I suspect they may bounce back and get 1 win on road then another back at home before bowing out.

    I’m glad you are comparing last years raptors team to this years because many in here feel the “raptors will be the raptors”.....That type of thinking is off considering this years raptors team is light years stronger than previous raptors teams. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    Raptors on another level from past teams, not surprised to see them dominate last night. 

    Even when Wiz came back cut it to 6 I was confident they would win by double digits.


    Comparing Raptors to last season.......................

    PRI --- This season 3rd 6.93, last season 6 at 3.93
    PRII --- 3RD at 53.85, last season 4th at 52.58

    Raptors much better this year.

    FG % differential --- 4th 2.3%, last season 6th 1.5%
    shooting efficiency --- 3rd 3.5, last season 7th 1.93

    considering that 2.5% is minimum for champions , this is the very first season Raptors meet the minimum that most all champs produce.

    That tells us they have improved their game to another level and when teams improve to another level history tells us their success in the playoffs changes.

    Raptors are not chokers, they were never as strong a team as they are now.


    Pelicans playing very well without Cousins, but Blazers are not very good despite running off alot of games late in season. I know some guys like Blazers to make the finals as a good longshot team but reality is they are not very good.

    FG % diff they rank tied for 9th, 10th, 111th with Heat and Wiz

    Shooting efficiency which includes, 2 pts, 3 pt, FT and TO they rank a dreadful 14th out of 16 teams in the playoffs while Pelicans rank 7th and 3rd in FG %, a big reason why the mismatch method favored Pelicans over Blazers.

    Teams playing like the Blazers rarely make the finals.I suspect they may bounce back and get 1 win on road then another back at home before bowing out.

    I’m glad you are comparing last years raptors team to this years because many in here feel the “raptors will be the raptors”.....That type of thinking is off considering this years raptors team is light years stronger than previous raptors teams. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:

    What is PRI? 

    Raps definitely a lot better in many key metrics this year including wins over top 10 teams.

    Kyle Lowry is still playing filthy in these first two games though. 

    Can you explain Portlands great defensive efficiency numbers (7th, just behind houston)?

    Ironically they are 17th in opponent 3 point % and a ridiculous 2nd in opponent 2 point % which would seem like the perfect defense to stop the Pels because they hardly shoot the 3. 


    PRI is power rating I found in the first post on the thread.

    I don't really get into def or off much, deal more with over-all team play in regards to Blazers def efficiency, over-all Blazers are not very good.

    Blazers are a very good reb team but do not out-shoot opps by much. Teams like this do not make the finals very often and to have to beat 2 teams on road who both have championship caliber teams in advanced meterics  is almost impossible.
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    What is PRI? 

    Raps definitely a lot better in many key metrics this year including wins over top 10 teams.

    Kyle Lowry is still playing filthy in these first two games though. 

    Can you explain Portlands great defensive efficiency numbers (7th, just behind houston)?

    Ironically they are 17th in opponent 3 point % and a ridiculous 2nd in opponent 2 point % which would seem like the perfect defense to stop the Pels because they hardly shoot the 3. 


    PRI is power rating I found in the first post on the thread.

    I don't really get into def or off much, deal more with over-all team play in regards to Blazers def efficiency, over-all Blazers are not very good.

    Blazers are a very good reb team but do not out-shoot opps by much. Teams like this do not make the finals very often and to have to beat 2 teams on road who both have championship caliber teams in advanced meterics  is almost impossible.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:


    I’m glad you are comparing last years raptors team to this years because many in here feel the “raptors will be the raptors”.....That type of thinking is off considering this years raptors team is light years stronger than previous raptors teams. 

    Even with the info many will still believe Raptors are chokers untill they prove themselves, but the problem with that kind of thinking, once Raps prove themselves there will be far less value backing them.

    The best value is now.
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    I’m glad you are comparing last years raptors team to this years because many in here feel the “raptors will be the raptors”.....That type of thinking is off considering this years raptors team is light years stronger than previous raptors teams. 

    Even with the info many will still believe Raptors are chokers untill they prove themselves, but the problem with that kind of thinking, once Raps prove themselves there will be far less value backing them.

    The best value is now.
     
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    Jazz did what they needed to do, get a split in first 2 road games. They are now in a great spot to win series.

    They need to hold home court with a 3-1 series lead, and likely cover both games.

    OKC returned to their dreadful shooting ways, George who was very good game 1 was a dreadful 6-21 and 4 of 12 on 3's which is not dreadful just below ave.

    George, Melo and Westbrook combined to go a painful 19 of 58 for 32.8 % at home. Ouch !!

    they were 8 of 24 on 3's which is not overly bad but below ave

    11 of 34 on 2's, oh my goodness, a horrendous 32.4 % at home on 2's.

    Yea, they rank 16th in FG % differential out of 16 playoff teams, or dead last. 

    And they did it again last night. Regardless of the pieces they are not very good.

    They can have moments, when they do they will look very good but they do not maintain them game to game.
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    Jazz did what they needed to do, get a split in first 2 road games. They are now in a great spot to win series.

    They need to hold home court with a 3-1 series lead, and likely cover both games.

    OKC returned to their dreadful shooting ways, George who was very good game 1 was a dreadful 6-21 and 4 of 12 on 3's which is not dreadful just below ave.

    George, Melo and Westbrook combined to go a painful 19 of 58 for 32.8 % at home. Ouch !!

    they were 8 of 24 on 3's which is not overly bad but below ave

    11 of 34 on 2's, oh my goodness, a horrendous 32.4 % at home on 2's.

    Yea, they rank 16th in FG % differential out of 16 playoff teams, or dead last. 

    And they did it again last night. Regardless of the pieces they are not very good.

    They can have moments, when they do they will look very good but they do not maintain them game to game.
     
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    Before the Warriors won their first title with Curry and Thompson, the same haters and doubters were all underestimating them saying they are nobodys and losers and same old pathetic dubs spurs are th e best blah blah blah...what happened last year has nothing to do with this year...yes they build ontop of previous years and experience, but this group of Raps are the most complete team in the nba...too bad everyone else wont realize this until they are forced to watch toronto playing for a title come june.
    And yes, all the people who claim ratings will be down and no one will care are just as clueless as ScriptedTheater and Bob...everyone will indeed watch because it will be historic for a non US team to be in the finals...it will become the most patriotic subliminal finals ever with the NBa machine doing everything in their power to keep Toronto from winning it...and that will be the best tin foil theory ever in history. Raps stand a great shot against Houston, and maybe 25% shot against GS.
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    Before the Warriors won their first title with Curry and Thompson, the same haters and doubters were all underestimating them saying they are nobodys and losers and same old pathetic dubs spurs are th e best blah blah blah...what happened last year has nothing to do with this year...yes they build ontop of previous years and experience, but this group of Raps are the most complete team in the nba...too bad everyone else wont realize this until they are forced to watch toronto playing for a title come june.
    And yes, all the people who claim ratings will be down and no one will care are just as clueless as ScriptedTheater and Bob...everyone will indeed watch because it will be historic for a non US team to be in the finals...it will become the most patriotic subliminal finals ever with the NBa machine doing everything in their power to keep Toronto from winning it...and that will be the best tin foil theory ever in history. Raps stand a great shot against Houston, and maybe 25% shot against GS.
     
     
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    Pacers hung in there pretty good in game 2, but LBJ went off . Normally when the road team wins big as Pacers did game 1 and pointed out by RJ Bell, the home team bounces back big and gets the cover game 2.

    Cavs did not do that which is a good indicator for Pacers going forward. They didn't because they can't, they are not very good.

    Cavs far worse on the road, shaping up for a good possible Pacers series win.


    Game 1 and 2 was a CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF why triple-doubles are way over-rated.

    Could not of come at a better time since we were just talking about such.

    Game 2 LBJ , 17 of 24 = 70.8%, 2 of 5 or 40% on 3's yea he went off, 12 rebs but only 5 assists.

    No triple-double, but he was a far better player and contributed far more to helping his team win then he did in game 1 despite not getting a triple-double in game 2.

    Do you really believe had he got 5 more assit for a triple-douple but shot only 41% from the field that would make him a better player and help his team win more ???

    Funny  as all-get-out. But that is what some experts want you to believe.


    OK, lets say he shot 41% on his 24 FG attempts, that is 10 baskets and we give him his 2...3's, good for 22 points not 46.

    His 5 extra assist leads to 50% shooting including 3's and FT and TO, which only 2 teams shot 50 or better and Cavs were not one of them but we will give them the 50%.

    5 extra assist leads to  5 extra points, so now he has 27 points but on 70.8% shooting  he scored 46 points not 27.


    That is why FG% matters .


    When we look at many of LBJ's finals triple-doubles especially earlier in his career he had games like game 1, low FG %.

    When we look at MJ in finals , he had games like LBJ did in game 2 VS Pacers, came up short of a triple double but shot lights out and scored far more points then LBJ did when he got a triple double.

    MJ would have games shooting 57%  scoring 42 points, with 9 rebs and 7 assists.

    Getting 1 more reb and 3 more assist but shooting 41% and scoring far fewer points does not make one a better player nor does it contributed to helping your team win the game more.

    But some experts will try their best to convince you it does.
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    Pacers hung in there pretty good in game 2, but LBJ went off . Normally when the road team wins big as Pacers did game 1 and pointed out by RJ Bell, the home team bounces back big and gets the cover game 2.

    Cavs did not do that which is a good indicator for Pacers going forward. They didn't because they can't, they are not very good.

    Cavs far worse on the road, shaping up for a good possible Pacers series win.


    Game 1 and 2 was a CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF why triple-doubles are way over-rated.

    Could not of come at a better time since we were just talking about such.

    Game 2 LBJ , 17 of 24 = 70.8%, 2 of 5 or 40% on 3's yea he went off, 12 rebs but only 5 assists.

    No triple-double, but he was a far better player and contributed far more to helping his team win then he did in game 1 despite not getting a triple-double in game 2.

    Do you really believe had he got 5 more assit for a triple-douple but shot only 41% from the field that would make him a better player and help his team win more ???

    Funny  as all-get-out. But that is what some experts want you to believe.


    OK, lets say he shot 41% on his 24 FG attempts, that is 10 baskets and we give him his 2...3's, good for 22 points not 46.

    His 5 extra assist leads to 50% shooting including 3's and FT and TO, which only 2 teams shot 50 or better and Cavs were not one of them but we will give them the 50%.

    5 extra assist leads to  5 extra points, so now he has 27 points but on 70.8% shooting  he scored 46 points not 27.


    That is why FG% matters .


    When we look at many of LBJ's finals triple-doubles especially earlier in his career he had games like game 1, low FG %.

    When we look at MJ in finals , he had games like LBJ did in game 2 VS Pacers, came up short of a triple double but shot lights out and scored far more points then LBJ did when he got a triple double.

    MJ would have games shooting 57%  scoring 42 points, with 9 rebs and 7 assists.

    Getting 1 more reb and 3 more assist but shooting 41% and scoring far fewer points does not make one a better player nor does it contributed to helping your team win the game more.

    But some experts will try their best to convince you it does.
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